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post Sep 5 2011, 10:37 AM

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where to find 180-200k condo? any suggestion


Added on September 5, 2011, 10:37 amwhere to find 180-200k condo

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Sep 5 2011, 10:37 AM)
where to find 180-200k condo? any suggestion


Added on September 5, 2011, 10:37 amwhere to find 180-200k condo
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i also wish to know... where got condo 180-200k nowadays...

apartment or medium cost aprtment still between this range la...

Errrm....maybe AHII is suck....but AHI overall is ok....so far so good...

this is terrible & scary if Smileey mention almost everywhere is leakage...poor workmanship...

then AHI should be expensive than AHII ? hahaha...

So, Smiley...what is your soultion now? you plan to sell off or fix and stay?


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QUOTE(felixmask @ Sep 5 2011, 10:37 AM)
where to find 180-200k condo? any suggestion


Added on September 5, 2011, 10:37 amwhere to find 180-200k condo
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new condo maybe hard to find...but 2nd hand should be OK.
my choice is desa petaling condo....
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post Sep 5 2011, 03:21 PM

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The irony is , all the complaints only came out after I've done booking and signing SPA for AH2 . There are literally nothing before this , and I thought it could be a peace of mind purchase .

However , I've view my unit 2 times before , there aren't much defect , in fact , nothing significant at all that need to be bothered . Workmanship passed , nothing major on wall lining etc . Haven't installed any water equipment yet , so no comment on this yet . It's on 10th floor , corner unit .

I'm aware that you really can't get away with complaints wherever you go/buy/purchase .
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QUOTE(Breaktru @ Sep 5 2011, 03:21 PM)
The irony is , all the complaints only came out after I've done booking and signing SPA for AH2 . There are literally nothing before this , and I thought it could be a peace of mind purchase .

However , I've view my unit 2 times before , there aren't much defect , in fact , nothing significant at all that need to be bothered . Workmanship passed , nothing major on wall lining etc . Haven't installed any water equipment yet , so no comment on this yet . It's on 10th floor , corner unit .

I'm aware that you really can't get away with complaints wherever you go/buy/purchase .
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So u mean ur unit ok??
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post Sep 5 2011, 05:25 PM

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Anyone staying at AH and travelling to KL wrking? want to know the traffic and best way to avoid jam.
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post Sep 5 2011, 05:34 PM

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Ok , so far , although haven't move in yet , never knows . No major complaint yet , I didn't spot any wet surface yet on the walls during my visit . This could change , therefore I don't dare to give further guarantee .

This is the video I took during my first visit (please wait till the lens get it focus after the first few seconds sweat.gif )



Considering the major complaints so far , I don't really see it from the unit Im going to buy . Cracks are minimal and insignificant , and you can't really tell there's problem with the wall joint . Please don't judge it from the video , because any lines can go distorted during motion records .

Despite that , I just received news that my loan hasn't been approved yet , I thought it was done because my dad is the one arranging it . I'm just a joint applicant with him , so , decision can still be changed . This is my view so far , just to share it with fellow new buyers or potential buyers alike. smile.gif

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Anyone staying at AH and travelling to KL wrking? want to know the traffic and best way to avoid jam.
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http://maps.google.com.my/maps?saddr=Aman+...c=6&mra=pd&z=14

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QUOTE(Breaktru @ Sep 5 2011, 05:34 PM)
Ok , so far , although haven't move in yet , never knows . No major complaint yet , I didn't spot any wet surface yet on the walls during my visit . This could change , therefore I don't dare to give further guarantee .

This is the video I took during my first visit (please wait till the lens get it focus after the first few seconds  sweat.gif )



Considering the major complaints so far , I don't really see it from the unit Im going to buy . Cracks are minimal and insignificant , and you can't really tell there's problem with the wall joint . Please don't judge it from the video , because any lines can go distorted during motion records .
So r u going to buy it since ur loan nt yt approve??
Despite that , I just received news that my loan hasn't been approved yet , I thought it was done because my dad is the one arranging it . I'm just a joint applicant with him ,  so , decision can still be changed . This is my view so far , just to share it with fellow new buyers or potential buyers alike.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Sep 5 2011, 10:20 AM)
i thinking to book AH III, should i withdraw since there so many complain of the developer?
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Honestly, I think you should. Because if you were to come and view at least 3/4 of the units in AH2, I am sure you will realize your money is not worth it. Do you I called my contractor to do plaster ceiling and he showed me how crooked is wall lines that by doing the cornis for plaster ceiling, it will be ugly and a waste of money? So you can imagine how bad is the work.
I think the amount of money you gonna pay for AH3, you better go look out for a town house which will cost around the same, or slightly higher but with good developers it will be worth the money. You can also try koi tropika in puchong, maybe its around 230k but good workmanship and good location. And like the suggestion below, villa park and villa pavilion looks good. But I have not viewed any unit inside, so a bit hard to tell about the quality. THINK hard! Don't waste your money and time with some stupid developers and stupid salesman in Aman Heights.


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QUOTE(Breaktru @ Sep 5 2011, 05:34 PM)
Ok , so far , although haven't move in yet , never knows . No major complaint yet , I didn't spot any wet surface yet on the walls during my visit . This could change , therefore I don't dare to give further guarantee .

This is the video I took during my first visit (please wait till the lens get it focus after the first few seconds  sweat.gif )



Considering the major complaints so far , I don't really see it from the unit Im going to buy . Cracks are minimal and insignificant , and you can't really tell there's problem with the wall joint . Please don't judge it from the video , because any lines can go distorted during motion records .

Despite that , I just received news that my loan hasn't been approved yet , I thought it was done because my dad is the one arranging it . I'm just a joint applicant with him ,  so , decision can still be changed . This is my view so far , just to share it with fellow new buyers or potential buyers alike.  smile.gif
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Hi, are you buying from the developer or an owner? Well, I know a lot of unit that at the first visit, it was bad paint work and small defect which later after like a few weeks or month, started having major problem. Maybe your particular unit has been repaired by the management. But that does not guarantee a good workmanship for the units in AH3. And considering the fact that the materials and plan and size of the units of AH3 is gonna be exactly the same as AH2, I think it is not worth paying that amount of money for AH3. Because I have seen way better units for lower price before. Believe it or not, I have a relative that bought a Sime Darby medium cost apartment for only RM120k and the workmanship is so good. Only thing there is no facilities. But the workmanship and quality of the unit, beats off AH2 which I paid more than RM250k. So as a buyer I think you need to do proper research before buying. My mistake was I was fooled by one of the sample unit the salesguy Kenny showed me in AH1. That was in good condition, and I guess they reserved the one good unit to fool purchasers of AH2. And biggest mistake, there was no research done on the developer.

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post Sep 6 2011, 04:50 PM

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Hi , Im supposedly to buy it from the owner . To be honest here , I had viewed 2 other units as well , and they are quite similar to the video I posted . No significant complaints .

And there is one thing , the unit has been repaired by management ? I thought the management don't give a damn about repairing ? Isn't AH 2 just got completed in June/July ?


Added on September 6, 2011, 4:55 pmThen finally , you suggesting Koi Tropika ? In this Aman Heights thread already 3-4 peoples complaining , while Koi Tropika probably got 10 or 20 times more complaints . sweat.gif

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post Sep 6 2011, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(Breaktru @ Sep 6 2011, 04:50 PM)
Hi , Im supposedly to buy it from the owner . To be honest here , I had viewed 2 other units as well , and they are quite similar to the video I posted . No significant complaints .

And there is one thing , the unit has been repaired by management ? I thought the management don't give a damn about repairing ? Isn't AH 2 just got completed in June/July ?


Added on September 6, 2011, 4:55 pmThen finally , you suggesting Koi Tropika ? In this Aman Heights thread already 3-4 peoples complaining , while Koi Tropika probably got 10 or 20 times more complaints .  sweat.gif
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Well, if you think so then go ahead and buy la. Well can you imagine if in AH2, out of 10 units at least 7 units might have bad defect, then do the maths of how many units there in bad condition. Problem is maybe are not aware of this thread. Maybe you should attend the AGM they are going to have in order to know the problems there and if things are as smooth as you think. Spend a whole day in the maintenance office looking at the number of people walking in with frustration or complaints, then you would probably see in depth this issue. Anyway, its your house,your money. So make a decision that you think is worth it.
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post Sep 7 2011, 12:22 AM

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post Sep 7 2011, 10:42 AM

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Alright , you say at least 7 out of 10 units had bad defect , and they don't fix it soon enough . Any way you can show me Live ? Or is there any way I can observe this ? I'm not questioning what you said , but I want to make a certainty before purchasing anything .

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post Sep 7 2011, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(Breaktru @ Sep 7 2011, 10:42 AM)
Alright , you say at least 7 out of 10 units had bad defect , and they don't fix it soon enough . Any way you can show me Live ? Or is there any way I can observe this ? I'm not questioning what you said , but I want to make a certainty before purchasing anything .
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Hey, since you are to optical about the developer and the unit, perhaps you should go ahead and just purchase the one you saw. Then maybe can wait and see the problems that come with it.
Like I said, if you doubt so much of what I am saying, spend an entire day waiting at the lobby of the guard house, or walk into the the Management Office on a day you see lots of people, and observe what are the complaints about. Or another solution, try an attend the JMB meeting. That would be something you witness for yourself.
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spend an entire day waiting at the lobby of the guard house, or walk into the the Management Office on a day you see lots of people, and observe what are the complaints about. Or another solution, try an attend the JMB meeting. That would be something you witness for yourself.


This is what I will do , probably during the weekend .

Another thing is , I wonder how much one can tolerate defects . A few scratches here and there or until a whole crack on the wall .
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post Sep 7 2011, 03:52 PM

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Truth is, there is no perfect home in this world. Out of 10 houses, 10 houses will have defects in them either small or big, you can't escape from this, this is reality, unless you build your own house from scratch using your own contractor and civil engineer, but how many people can do this?

We understand this problem, all units are expected to have some small defects, which is acceptable. Acceptable in my dictionary means, those tiny holes on walls near power points, some small scratches, some unevenness on wall finishes which is not obvious to the naked eyes unless you put your head close to your wall until you can kiss it and observe it closely, some bad paint job (which can be easily repainted), things like that. However, what we are experiencing in Aman Heights Pangsapuri Kos Sederhana are problems like water leakages from ceilings, walls, floors, water marks keep occurring after 'repairs' done, walls are not straight, floors are not even, water tank setup which doesn't seem to have any safety measurements built into it, these defects are not called defects anymore, they are the result of a massive flaw in building designing and execution by the developer themselves, because they are too money greedy and neglect the basic necessary need to be done on a Pangsapuri Kos Sederhana !

For those who wish to buy AH2 or AH3, think hard and wisely before making your decision. Are you willing to run to developer's office, management office, KPKT, MPSJ everyday to submit your reports, make complaints, type your own letters for KPKT, management, developer, so many documentations, so many headaches, so many problems? If you are, then you are most welcome to purchase the great Aman Heights Pangsapuri Kos Sederhana. You are risking your future and your money.

I agree that not all units have problems, but if 40 out of 100 units do face these major problems, what are the chances of your unit having at least 1 serious defect? 0.4 is considered high chance in this situation, but then again it's your choice.

Regarding facilities, I went to the gym and found out that none of the treadmills or the cycles are working, and yes it has not been repaired or replaced since last year. I wonder what the management are doing with our maintenance money? I do know that our maintenance money is being used to pay the cleaners, clean the pool, preserve the plants, cleaning of the whole area of AH buildings inside and outside, and also to pay the salary of management employees, and some other maintenance works. But this also includes servicing or maintaining of gym facilities as well, so there should be no excuse whatsoever from the management if it is still not yet being repaired. I will bring this issue up during the AGM and demand for answers and explanation of where our money goes. After reading another user's post here, I checked out the games room, and found out that we need to insert coins to play the pool? Why do we need to pay extra money to play games which is included as facility in our AH which we are paying the maintenance money? It doesn't make sense, because there is no difference between me paying 2 times to play the pool, or go to a snooker center and play the pool. This is nonsense.

Since I already buy this unit, I have no choice but to continue to live here. They take our maintenance money every month and without failing send the letter on time asking us to pay the fees, but what I'm asking at the least from the management is that they justify their roles as the management and do things properly. If they don't do it flamboyantly is fine, I just want them to fulfill their basic roles as management to look into things which need to be repaired or replaced. This is the most basic thing a management should do.

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QUOTE(Breaktru @ Sep 5 2011, 05:34 PM)
Ok , so far , although haven't move in yet , never knows . No major complaint yet , I didn't spot any wet surface yet on the walls during my visit . This could change , therefore I don't dare to give further guarantee .

This is the video I took during my first visit (please wait till the lens get it focus after the first few seconds  sweat.gif )



Considering the major complaints so far , I don't really see it from the unit Im going to buy . Cracks are minimal and insignificant , and you can't really tell there's problem with the wall joint . Please don't judge it from the video , because any lines can go distorted during motion records .

Despite that , I just received news that my loan hasn't been approved yet , I thought it was done because my dad is the one arranging it . I'm just a joint applicant with him ,  so , decision can still be changed . This is my view so far , just to share it with fellow new buyers or potential buyers alike.  smile.gif
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urs is subsales is it, how come until now also loan havent approved? i think ur floor is the lucky floor.. i notice in the AM2 development stages.. there are a few weeks where it got stuck for so long at a certain floor but some other floor go up very very fast..
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QUOTE(glowinthedark @ Sep 2 2011, 12:21 PM)
If ur planning to buy AH3, read this thread from page 1 to last. AH1 owners I think are luckier compared to AH2 owners. AH2 have A LOT of problems. Almost every AH2 owners I met and spoke to, have some complains about the building, or the management, or the sales team. The unit inside structure is out of place, walls not in line, not straight, so many more, and all this comes from the advertised 'Luxurious Lifestyle', my ass. AH3 has a 'proposed' rooftop lounge area which contains pool, gym, garden, etc. This is subject to approval from the authority. When AH2 standard water tank also they can't do properly, people staying on the level below the water tank face so many problems because of screwed up water tank system done by this developer. Do you actually think this developer will be able to do complete AH3 together with the lounge, WITHOUT any problems?

Considering the surrounding, the trees around AH are the only things nice, because it cools the whole AH area, hardly have a hot day when you're there. Once you step out of AH, it's a different world. You see rural chinese kampung and you must go through 5,342,800 humps before reaching the main road. The traffic jam in that area is...acceptable, happens only near the town heading towards South City. Anyway which place in KL has got no traffic jam nowadays? So considering that, this place is not bad. You get a lot of nice chinese food around this place, you have futsal/badminton court nearby, quite peaceful environment, a 'proposed' MEX highway connection (not sure it will happen or not) nearby so easier access to KL/Putrajaya, free hold.

Pool is not bad, but not deep enough. Gym facilities? There are none, meaning none are in working condition, unless you only want to carry weights. All time 'out of order' paper stick on the threadmills and bicycles. Believe it or not, it has not been replaced for more than 1 year smile.gif

So, that's my comment on AH. Think hard and make a wise decision for yourself and your family. And yeah, this developer Premier Consortium is blacklisted by Kementerian Perumahan Kerajaan Tempatan (KPKT) for some compound issue. Feel free to do some research on KPKT website. Does it mean they have no money? Does it mean AH3 will be delayed for another extra 6 months - 1 year - 2 years - 3 years? I don't know.

I'm calling all owners of AH block 1 & 2. There will be an AGM for all owners which is happening on 8th October 2011 10AM, all owners of all blocks please come and demand for our rights. They give us 'Luxurious lifestyle', we demand for 'Luxurious lifestyle' ok? Thanks!
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I am one of the unlucky AHII owner too, will come for sure for the AGM to demand our rights. If I can choose i rather want a decent condo with defects free instead of 'Luxurious lifestyle'. My house water pipe is leaking everywhere, from master room to kitchen, and just recently found out water from toilet outside is leaking into the room next to it, due to the improper water proof work. And my house also having the same problem like almost every owners in AHII, uneven wall and crook lines between walls. To get those buggers to fix a defect is more difficult to move a mountain, always give lots of excuses trying to delay the work.

My advise to all potential buyers of AH III, don't buy here. Even if you already paid a deposit, try to get it back and cancel the booking because eventually when you collect the house, all you get is just frustration and angers and less-that-low-cost-flat-quality house.
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post Sep 7 2011, 11:59 PM

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I think All AMII owners should have press conference with the politicians. Because only one or few owner did the complain with KPKT, MPSJ. That not power enough. Should gather all the defects problem with this developer and also the government.

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