3olyn,

What captainVJKanth says is absolutely right. I also own a unit in AH2. Was looking forward to get the key, start the reno and move in. When I booked the unit last year, the salesman Kenny said that the unit would be ready by December 2010. But it dragged till this year June, and when I went to collect the key, I got a shock to see they wanted us to pay for the maintenance fee though CF was not obtained yet. Two of my other friends who bought a unit each there even had to pay interest of RM1xxx due to salesman's delay in submitting loan application, but till today developer don't want to confirm its their mistake. Our biggest mistake was to book the unit based on the exterior landscaping which of course would attract anyone at first sight. But few days back when I was surfing through our kementerian perumahan's website, I got to know that this developer Premier Consortium has been blacklisted under one of the category and they seem to have problem with almost everyone I've met in Block B.

The workmanship of AH2 is worse than a low cost flat I would say. First day that I walked in to my unit after collecting the keys, I was just too disappointed to see how bad the touch up has been. Cracks everywhere. And when I stand at my living room and look at the walls, the finishings are just horrible. REALLY REALLY BAD PAINTWORK. CHEAP DOORS. NO PROPER ALLIGNMENT OF THE WALLS. CROOKED LINES BETWEEN WALL AND CEILING. WATER SPOTS NOTICED TOO. And now when I ask the salesguy (Kenny) anything, all he says is he don't know anything. Contact management. Blardy basket. When he needed to do his sales, he was so nice. And now, such a kiasu idiot. To make it worse, their project manager kononnya UM grad. But then knows nuts about what he is speaking. And the defects are suppose to be rectified within 30 days, and mine has exceeded by another 15 days, and its still not done.

captainVJKanth, i think i saw your unit and your neighbours. Its really in bad shape. If I were you, I would be extremely pist myself. I think it must have been your neighbour that I saw giving it off to the sales manager that he was gonna make a report to MPSJ and KPKT. And most likely write in to the press as well, which I think is the right move. This kind of developers need to be taught a lesson, for being irresponsible. I don't think the money we pay for this condo, is worth it at all. For the work that they do, its worthless. What I heard from some during my last visit there, KPKT might be sending their engineer to check the site cause too many complaints. And this might effect AH3. So I suggest to those that wish to purchase AH3, put a hold to it first.
If possible go for any other better developer. As I understand this developer has lots of cases, and from the way they have been responding to the defects of AH2, they definitely are a bunch of irresponsible developer and do not care about the safety of the occupants of the building. I even heard that till today block A's unit face water leakage problem and developer is least bothered about it.

Not to forget, the CF states that it has been given for "sebahagian block b and tempat letak kereta". Does this mean only half the building is safe to occupy???? Dumb developers!

Here's the link of the blacklisted developers by Kementerian Perumahan :

http://www.kpkt.gov.my/kpkt/fileupload/pem...ngga_310711.pdf

A VERY VERY FRUSTRATED PURCHASER

This post has been edited by Smileyyy: Aug 13 2011, 02:23 AM

Hi Thiansc,

I think with this developer and management, there is just no point in doing so. My unit, we have even reported them to the KPKT now. We are just waiting to see what ministry does. At this point of time, I am really angry at this whole lot of developer and manager that I could walk up and give it off to their face. The other day, they called saying we can collect our key. But before I collect it, I wanted to be sure they have done all the defects. And found out that the toilet flush is not working and when I called Sam, he said have to wait another 2 weeks cause new defect. WTH??? It's their job to check if the flushes are working cause I never had water supply to the unit until a few days back. So how the hell am I suppose to even inform them during my first defect check? It's utter rubbish!!!

And the actual procedure is for bank to hold 5% but from the statements sent to me, the bank only hold 2.5% of the loan. We even recently found out that the law firm is all part of the developer's people as well and it seems they are going bankrupt and closing down. I am not so sure how far this is true, but heard about it from a few people upon my visit to my unit.

Anyway, wanted to check..how many of you are aware that the management is suppose to allow us to form our own Joint Body as a committee within 12 months of the CF release?
Anyone here from Block A?

Wah, 360k????? I bought AH II for 252k also i think not worth it at all..looking at the work quality...you should meet the frustrated purchasers of block b, then you would know if its worth the money or not..on top of that their current project manager just resigned and cabut....quality is worse then a low cost flat..and best part, when they sell they call it aman heights, the luxurious lifestyle..but cf only certifies aman heights as "pangsapuri kos sederhana"... and if you bought your particular unit from the salesguy kenny, i think you need more luck..cause after selling, he has another face...very kurap and annoying...

Hi cute alex, nope, mine is not a corner lot.. it is facing the lift door..middle unit..
yea, its way worse than what people think..i am so frustrated with the developer that i have even put up notice in my office boards saying not to purchase the unit..cause i saw lots of pamplets on this unit being distributed there..by kenny and another guy..

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Added on September 4, 2011, 12:28 pmHi,
I can't agree more with whatever you have said. True, if they can't even do a proper set up for a normal unit below water tank, I can't imagine how the hell will the AH3 with sky lounge be? Probably they get to bathe in their house everyday, without paying water bill cause the water from swimming pool will be flowing 24/7 to the units below. Project Manager has resigned, the Management defect guy, Sam also has resigned. Now left that fat man Ah Sang, which i think is totally hopeless cause from what I heard from few people, this guy likes to be tipped in order to do your work fast, but I don't think it's the right thing to do. We pay so much to get a condo in a good condition, and in the end are we suppose to tip them to repair their own bad work???

The only thing that probably is good about this place is the environment which is surrounded by trees and probably the exterior look of the condominium, i mean the "pangsapuri kos sederhana". But that too has lots of flaws. From the time I purchased AH2 last year till now, one year to be exact, the gym equipments have not been repaired. And when I asked the maintenance office, they said they can't do much cause the maintenance money goes to the developer's account first and it's really very hard for them to get the developer to cash in the money for the maintenance, and the boss (developer, if i am not wrong his name is Jason) keeps saying he wants to buy new machines all together, but I highly doubt it. This is what I heard, but not sure how far it's true.

Me and my friends that bought the units there are all planning to attend the AGM to thrash those people. Anyway, can I know if you are also in the aman heights community forum? I have registered for it last week, but till now the moderator has not activated my account.

This post has been edited by Smileyyy: Sep 4 2011, 12:28 PM

QUOTE(jasonXXXXX @ Sep 4 2011, 09:46 PM)
Really sucks!!! After 2 months only they rectified the defects. After fixing the paip, got one new big problem. The toilet's paip inside the wall broke. So water leak into the master bedroom. I heard many units have this problem.
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If you don't mind, how much did you pay for your booking? The last time booking I only paid RM 1 000. If I were you, before I sign my SPA, i would just burn the booking money. Looking at the condition of the units in AH2, mine and a few others, if only we knew this problem before, me and my friends would have just burnt our booking fee. Not worth signing SPA and carrying on with a loan for the rest of 30-40 years, just because you have paid the booking. Imagine, booking just RM1k. But paying monthly to bank almost RM1K monthly for the next 30-40 years with a property that is not even a condominium, just a pangsapuri kos sederhana is not worth it at all. Please think wisely before you commit yourself further to this stupid project by a irresponsible developer.

You can buy other properties, either lesser price or around this price with better quality. Don't be fooled by their nice landscaping. The building has leakage EVERYWHERE. They still have more than 40 units not repaired for more than 2 months. No one there is reliable. Salesguy kenny is a blardy conman, real basket and the sales manager even worse. When need us to do payment, can be sarcastic. When in problem, everything also she don't know how to handle. Ask to prepare documentation, she can't even understand simple English.

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Added on September 5, 2011, 12:49 amI have one advise for you. Take some time and effort, go to KPKT in Putrajaya. It helps a lot. Developer hates it when they get letter from KPKT. And even if they don't want to answer you on the problem and the rectification, they HAVE to answer KPKT and you will be kept in copy. Already got a few complaints in KPKT about this developer and AH2. The more complaints they receive, the more KPKT will walk in and take action. There is no point making noise at the management cause they will come up with a temporary solution, and the problem will reoccur. If you go to the ministry (KPKT), the developer might for the first time do a temporary solution, but once the problem reoccurs, they can't escape already. So don't waste your time, move fast, go to KPKT.

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Added on September 5, 2011, 12:52 amI have one advise for you. Take some time and effort, go to KPKT in Putrajaya. It helps a lot. Developer hates it when they get letter from KPKT. And even if they don't want to answer you on the problem and the rectification, they HAVE to answer KPKT and you will be kept in copy. Already got a few complaints in KPKT about this developer and AH2. The more complaints they receive, the more KPKT will walk in and take action. There is no point making noise at the management cause they will come up with a temporary solution, and the problem will reoccur. If you go to the ministry (KPKT), the developer might for the first time do a temporary solution, but once the problem reoccurs, they can't escape already. So don't waste your time, move fast, go to KPKT.

This post has been edited by Smileyyy: Sep 5 2011, 12:52 AM

Honestly, I think you should. Because if you were to come and view at least 3/4 of the units in AH2, I am sure you will realize your money is not worth it. Do you I called my contractor to do plaster ceiling and he showed me how crooked is wall lines that by doing the cornis for plaster ceiling, it will be ugly and a waste of money? So you can imagine how bad is the work.
I think the amount of money you gonna pay for AH3, you better go look out for a town house which will cost around the same, or slightly higher but with good developers it will be worth the money. You can also try koi tropika in puchong, maybe its around 230k but good workmanship and good location. And like the suggestion below, villa park and villa pavilion looks good. But I have not viewed any unit inside, so a bit hard to tell about the quality. THINK hard! Don't waste your money and time with some stupid developers and stupid salesman in Aman Heights.

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Added on September 6, 2011, 11:35 amHi, are you buying from the developer or an owner? Well, I know a lot of unit that at the first visit, it was bad paint work and small defect which later after like a few weeks or month, started having major problem. Maybe your particular unit has been repaired by the management. But that does not guarantee a good workmanship for the units in AH3. And considering the fact that the materials and plan and size of the units of AH3 is gonna be exactly the same as AH2, I think it is not worth paying that amount of money for AH3. Because I have seen way better units for lower price before. Believe it or not, I have a relative that bought a Sime Darby medium cost apartment for only RM120k and the workmanship is so good. Only thing there is no facilities. But the workmanship and quality of the unit, beats off AH2 which I paid more than RM250k. So as a buyer I think you need to do proper research before buying. My mistake was I was fooled by one of the sample unit the salesguy Kenny showed me in AH1. That was in good condition, and I guess they reserved the one good unit to fool purchasers of AH2. And biggest mistake, there was no research done on the developer.

This post has been edited by Smileyyy: Sep 6 2011, 11:35 AM

Well, if you think so then go ahead and buy la. Well can you imagine if in AH2, out of 10 units at least 7 units might have bad defect, then do the maths of how many units there in bad condition. Problem is maybe are not aware of this thread. Maybe you should attend the AGM they are going to have in order to know the problems there and if things are as smooth as you think. Spend a whole day in the maintenance office looking at the number of people walking in with frustration or complaints, then you would probably see in depth this issue. Anyway, its your house,your money. So make a decision that you think is worth it.

Hey, since you are to optical about the developer and the unit, perhaps you should go ahead and just purchase the one you saw. Then maybe can wait and see the problems that come with it.
Like I said, if you doubt so much of what I am saying, spend an entire day waiting at the lobby of the guard house, or walk into the the Management Office on a day you see lots of people, and observe what are the complaints about. Or another solution, try an attend the JMB meeting. That would be something you witness for yourself.

Hi Jason,
My suggestion, take some time to type out your complain letter. Attach all your documents and walk in to Putrajaya KPKT.
It takes less than 30 minutes. And believe me, after I wrote in my complain to them, within the next 7 days there was a letter
from KPKT to developer asking them the solution on this problem. And as per what the Pengarah told, if they get many complaints
on the same issue, they will walk in to aman heights and do an inspection, and that will leave the developer with no choice but
to repair it as per what KPKT instructs them. You have paid to stay there, might as well take this extra mile and just proceed with the
law. This kind of developers needs to be taught a lesson.

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Added on September 9, 2011, 11:07 amHi Thiansc,
I would suggest the same to you. First do a documentation on all your defect, with pictures. Also list down what are the rectification you are expecting from them. Print out (colour printing) for pictures. Walk to the Sales Manager Esther and make her sign in. Don't buy her sarcasm and don't be soft with her. Raise your voice a little and make her sign in cause I witness someone doing that when she refused to sign and she ended up signing in.
Next step, type a complain letter to KPKT. Put down in order first date you reported the defect, and that when you collected the key you were not happy cause more defects, etc.
Submit the attachment signed by Esther along with your complain letter to KPKT, go to the 30th floor if i remember correctly. They will ask you to fill up a form, and submit your attachements.
Within 7 working days, letter would be sent out to developer. Developer has no choice but to reply to them what they did to repair and if you know its not true and you are not happy, reply back to KPKT and KPKT will walk in to aman heights and inspect ur unit as well as all those has complaint. This will put the developer in deep shit and they MUST adhere to what KPKT wants.
At my end, I already did all above and now I am waiting for the developer's reply to KPKT. But the repair was done better when they knew we had wrote in to KPKT.
The job at KPKT will only require less than 30 minutes of the time. So please do it, so that this developer has some fear towards the purchaser.

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Added on September 9, 2011, 11:23 amBy the way, just to check with the purchasers of AH2, have any of you received any letter from the laywer requesting you to pay a certain sum for strata title? My friend said he just received a letter to pay RM2600..I have yet to receive mine...

This post has been edited by Smileyyy: Sep 9 2011, 11:23 AM

Hi Danny,
Yes, I think you can try to go to the KPKT as well. Because they have a column that you indicate what is your problem and I indicated "kecacatan mutu kerja". So what you basically need to write in your letter is the first time you made a report on your defect, and when it was done. And then put in that you are still very unhappy about the work they did because again defects occurred and this time a major one and explain a little bit on the defect. You could also add that this problem is not faced by you alone but by majority of the units in AH2 and thus you require the relevant authorities to make a site visit in order for the developer to rectify their defects and not just do a temporary repair as solution. Once done with the complain, wait for 14 days and then if you updates, you may call KPKT and get an update. Last time during my problem, the person in charged in KPKT told me to a report fast and not delay. Cause I think they will compile the complaints. The more complaints that go to the KPKT, the better for AH2 cause that means the authorities need to take action.

Thanks! Just sharing my experience for the good of all purchasers of AH2. =)

Hahaha. That's funny.. "AH II got night support "..probably developer trying to get some project overseas and have a 24 hour support to standby other countries working hours...JK..
By the way, it is true that Ah Sang selectively helps the owner..and I heard he favours those that tips him..but then again, no guarantee that the problem will solve..The problem with this people, IF they do a fast repair, they do a very cincai job. It's not just about repairing your defects, it is about doing a proper job so that the problem does not reoccur and that was why I was pist and went to the KPKT. Cause the first time there was leakage, the repair was done and they tried to push the key to us fast. But then luckily I did not collect the key and true enough a week later there was a leakage again. This made me proceed to the ministry as I realized the developer was just fooling around with us, purchasers.