okay, so that confirms what they say...

Time to stop shooting TM and shoot MCMC instead?

No, we still need to shoot TM cause according to MCMC we should have 90% of the subscribe level for both down and up, also packet loss not exceed 1% and latency shouldn't more than 85ms. That's the standard for MCMC.

This post has been edited by warez: Aug 2 2009, 01:56 AM

But that is to nearest node or BRAS only...anything after the BRAS not included... BRAS can be considered as something like a DSLAM stage component role... your connection havent even reach TM's Core system yet...

Its like your computer > modem > dslam > bras > tm's core network

but...

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See what i see? trace found that first 2 hops after my computer got 50% and 10% Packet Loss...

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Added on August 2, 2009, 2:13 amPlease do correct me if i'm wrong, because that is what i understood from what TM told us

This post has been edited by andrew9292: Aug 2 2009, 02:13 AM

Well, as what you say we are go through to nearest node or BRAS before go to TM core, example if i ping their dns and having lot's of packet loss can i say their node or BRAS having problem? I'm not sure, i'm just guessing.

Answer for you, No. No certain answer can be concluded as the troubleshooting steps are simply not sufficient. It involve many possible things and issues. You gotta drill all the way to the root b4 you could get closer to it.

I've stressed 2 things with TM, First, the nearest Node thingy or the policies enforced is a piece of junk. To me, it's like the JKR promising us that, from our front gate to the "public road system" (the road in front of our house will be above 90% traffic jam free. Should JKR have to promise that? And have somebody else like MCMC have to regulate it?

Why? Coz if you can't even get hook up to the nearest node, how would you get authenticated? If you failed the authentication, would you get any data flowing into your machine?

Second, Window's native Trace Route Function is being blocked.

Reason given TM, internal network policy and security measure. Plus potential ICMP overloads. LMFAO right?

Reason given doesn't justify anything.
1. Because there're software that could bypass it. Just that most of the users doesn't know which one to use and how to use the alternative software to bypass it and get the result they want.

2. Ping produce higher risk in overloading on ICMP as we're able to ping continuously while most of the trace route doesn't.

3. Blocking the trace route can't even hide things from users, but to make our life harder to dig the truth out of it. I just don't understand if TM were to hide things from us, why can't (or even not capable) they use a more effective method.

Got it webdesignempire, thanks for the answer.

Picture is a lie.

so who control the BRAS then (if not TMnet)?

My experience, most of the time the cause isn't on the bras, trace it then you shall find.

Shitmyx dont care about latency, what they want is speed only.
Shit company is shit.

I asked this in an earlier post...

Who were the representatives from TM? From which departments?

i also want to know too....

I sorry. I think we are not allow to release the information here, or to anyone. Hope you guys understand that it was a closed door meeting.

Well, lets just put it this way, without those people, TM will collapse. If we were to kill those TM ppl that attend the meeting.

Tomorrow, TM will not exist anymore.

Hope ya get the pictar now on which kind of people attended ; )

People already said it out who is the representitive in the earlier post already la..

Really? Tak nampak pun??



O btw, if i not mistaken, DAP IT Manager also came for the meeting, and he was good...

Really sent rockets to the TM ; ) and TM was so desperately deflecting his shots...

Ha! now i remembered....

He was asking how much total international bandwidth TM has and how is it being distributed in TM's network...

TM tried so hard to avoid that question i was LOLing so hard in my heart....


Hmm...seems that TM really cant tell us how much international bandwidth they have and how is it distributed....



This post has been edited by andrew9292: Aug 2 2009, 01:12 PM

Less than 50Gbps I think.
100Gbps for local.
WTF IS THE USE???!!!

lol DAP ftw

its a simple question of available average bandwidth per user.
but dey avoid answering it anyways.
just meks me curious on how terrible the ratio is.........

Memang like that la...

hmmm...i also feel that the ratio really terrible....that's y they try not to answer it