The LX3 doesnt have a flash. People (enthusiasts) still flock to buy it.
Also, the ISO performance is already good, that the time you really need a flash baru you use a flash. A bounce flash even. Direct flash is too harsh la.
The compactness is to compare a SLR, not a compact camera. Actually the lens can be changed i.e. taken off, so the camera is very flat when there is no lens. And the 14-42 mm (x2 to get 35mm range) zoom lens is collapsable, so there is your retracting lens

edit: ugh, should have seen the NON in the non-enthusiast. In any case, this is not for everybody i admit. But if they can show those non-enthusiasts that they can print good pics without flash, i know ppl will buy it. Have you seen the sample pics at www.dpreview.com ? the ISO performance is nice!


This post has been edited by seaotter: Jun 18 2009, 08:55 PM

While I agree that it has some great high ISO performance end of the day is, who's the target market?

For us enthusist who want more in a slightly smaller camera?

Or for our non enthusiast spouses who when told they can take our the lens to make it smaller so it can fit in their handbags, would probably put the two things in their hand bags then smack us over the head with it.

Not to mention... the PRICE!!

Sorry ah...which country you buy LX3 have no built-in flash? Are we talking about the Panasonic LUMIX DMC-LX3?

I presume it will be for those pro-sumer owners, rather than those tiny ixus users. But then, maybe the tiny ixus users want to get better camera or something?

Geh, I made an information mistake there. Sorry
What I think I meant to say is LX3 doesnt have viewfinder - ppl still buy it.

i think canon will be pressured to released its own version of micro four third camera.. so the more competitions in the market, hopefully the price will be down..

if canon make 4/3 system
i think what mount will be used,
EF 4/3

APS-C Sensor is big la. Susah want to shove into a Canon G10 body. And from the "heated discussion" i am following in another channel, they want an EVF and no LCD. dunno why - i can live with only LCD, but EVF not bad also. So canon needs to listen to the customers if they want to go against Olympus.

er, that's because it's a compact! people buy compacts don't care about viewfinder.

anyway with lens on like 14-140, the fella looks rather big. defeats the purpose already.

i was thinking la. the weight of the lens + EP1 would be on the lens. furthermore more no EVF so you have to hold it in such a way you can view the screen and zoom. might be inconvenient, just a thought.

cannot twist and turn lens.
no syok feel laar.

That's why I'm wondering whose the market for the camera?

Let's face it most of us who do photography as a hobby can only support one system of lenses. And if they could afford the PEN as well, they would be constantly asking themselves why not just buy another body?

Then for most of the people who are currently using compacts the first thing that would probably hit them in the face is the sticker shock, then when they realize that the camera isn't as thin, has as high a zoom as their current compact, doesn't have a flash. What would they think?

It feels quite a niche product to me.

I guess people who are getting into the hobby might consider getting it instead of a SLR.

seriously? Harry sold his D90 already (btw, who's harry??)? really planning to get the E-P1? is the full accessories out already? alot of things need to be considered also...

I guess it's not for all people.. for me, I'd still stick to my current DSLR since I'm already used to it... It's a good system for those who's getting into photography and wants a smaller body...

This post has been edited by Braynumb: Jun 18 2009, 10:57 PM

Actually from what i read - the lens is very light, and most of the weight is on the body. Saw pics of ppl using it and i dont see any problem. Even so, ppl will get used to the usage stance after a few shots anyway.

What do you mean? got zoom what. besides, you can always pasang any ol 4/3r lens with adaptor. will look funny, but its possible


Yeah. Its for ppl who are choosing between slrs. They want the IQ, but not the bulk - like me.
Which is why i am fanboying like crazy lolol.

Seeing the camera is reaching our shores next month - cant wait to see how it feels like.

I wonder how's the autofocus performance? Isit using contrast detection like the compact cam?

New one? E-P2 Photo Leaked?



Sos

Lol no. That is a photoshop someone made in the dpreview forums.
E-P1 tak keluar lagi they dah nak announce E-P2.

just for your info....iinm samsung working on a mirrorless SLR using APS-C sensor...

Yep - the NX series - with EVF and all.

Personally, i like the retro look of the Pen better. But that is just me.

How come they name it as PEN(IS) ?

read back a few post before that post of mine. Harry usernick is harrychoo.

if anybody buy this....may i borrow it....sighh....POISON!!!!!!!!!