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TSEverdying
post Jun 16 2009, 01:28 AM

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k, heres my 'short' review of the Mamba.
it consists more of constructive criticisms tongue.gif

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post Jun 16 2009, 06:04 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 16 2009, 01:28 AM)
k, heres my 'short' review of the Mamba.
it consists more of constructive criticisms tongue.gif

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nice review, but its kinda long..took me a few minutes to read.

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post Jun 16 2009, 09:31 AM

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Guys what is the fair price that I should sell my 1 month old Razer Lycosa Mirror? Getting old already, going to get a less shiny keyboard. smile.gif
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post Jun 16 2009, 02:02 PM

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100 sell to me haha rclxms.gif
but since you say 1 month old probably reduce your price by 10-20%
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post Jun 16 2009, 05:32 PM

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i offer 110 for the keyboard....XD

i would love to try out a lycosa if i hav the chance
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post Jun 16 2009, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(kianwee @ Jun 16 2009, 09:31 AM)
Guys what is the fair price that I should sell my 1 month old Razer Lycosa Mirror? Getting old already, going to get a less shiny keyboard. smile.gif
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50 ringgit. COD tonight brows.gif
Nice review everdying! Probably will stick to my lachesis before going for the mamba
After reading about the jitter issue laugh.gif
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post Jun 16 2009, 06:00 PM

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mamba is so cool...i wil get it if my DA go kong....XD
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post Jun 16 2009, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(espada90 @ Jun 16 2009, 06:00 PM)
mamba is so cool...i wil get it if my DA go kong....XD
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highly unlikely ur DA will go kong.
so u can just give me ur DA and go get the mamba if u really want it tongue.gif
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post Jun 16 2009, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 16 2009, 01:28 AM)
k, heres my 'short' review of the Mamba.
it consists more of constructive criticisms tongue.gif

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despite being more advanced than optical, laser can hardly work at an extremely limited lifting distance, thicker feet will only make the mice becomes less precise
and teflon ring? From what I know it's the teflon feet used on Mac mice, surrounding the base of mice, didn't see Mamba is using any, perhaps there's another term to call that?
hard mat that focuses on speed will not help to reduce the jitter issue, in fact mice movement tends to be shaky due to the smooth surface and direct to the issue even more. Cloth mat focuses on control, gives more friction and may serve a better solution than hard mat in this, unless the cloth surface is dusty and clogged with micro substance that most of the reviews out there claimed may interrupt the operation of Razer's super sensitive lens, a case which I can hardly notice to occur on any other manufacturer's
it's a waste to use laser at 1.8k dpi, while for such working range a DA is more than enough. Razer wired mice cable is thin and sleek, can hardly affect gaming performance given a proper cable management, not as bothersome as charge up a tired mice.
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post Jun 16 2009, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(shelke @ Jun 16 2009, 06:20 PM)
despite being more advanced than optical, laser can hardly work at an extremely limited lifting distance, thicker feet will only make the mice becomes less precise
and teflon ring? From what I know it's the teflon feet used on Mac mice, surrounding the base of mice, didn't see Mamba is using any, perhaps there's another term to call that?
hard mat that focuses on speed will not help to reduce the jitter issue, in fact mice movement tends to be shaky due to the smooth surface and direct to the issue even more. Cloth mat focuses on control, gives more friction and may serve a better solution than hard mat in this, unless the cloth surface is dusty and clogged with micro substance that most of the reviews out there claimed may interrupt the operation of Razer's super sensitive lens, a case which I can hardly notice to occur on any other manufacturer's
it's a waste to use laser at 1.8k dpi, while for such working range a DA is more than enough. Razer wired mice cable is thin and sleek, can hardly affect gaming performance given a proper cable management, not as bothersome as charge up a tired mice.
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no one is saying to make thicker feet thats 2 or 3mm or whatever.
just thick enough to raise it past the battery cover, hardly 0.5mm thicker.
the mamba's liftoff distance should be 2 CDs anyway, more than enough space.

and newer mamba's have teflon rings.
couple of guys here have gotten teflon rings from razer as theirs was from an earlier batch that didnt have them.

just in case www.googleityoumoron.com didnt work for u...
this is from http://help.razersupport.com.

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Q:  When I click rapidly on my Razer Mamba I sometimes see the cursor move or jitter a bit.
A:  The Razer Mamba’s tracking sensor is extremely precise and when it is set at high levels of sensitivity, can sometimes detect movements caused by the slight shifting of your hand or the pressure you put into the mouse pad when you click. This effect can be amplified when using softer mousing surfaces as the precision of the sensor picks up even the slightest movement.

Most users should not experience this issue but a small proportion of users who hold the mouse and click a certain way will experience this. If you experience this issue, we have a round Teflon O-ring you can add around the Mamba’s sensor to help prevent this from happening. If you would like one of these Teflon O-rings please contact Razer Support at the following link.
to say that cloth pad offers more control than a hard speed pad, technically may sound correct, but in reality it all comes down to your preference.
also if you actually go thru razer configurator, it recommends using mamba on a hard mat.


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post Jun 16 2009, 07:13 PM

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Teflon feet for all razer mouse can be found in everglide right?
BTW,my eye seeking pirahna and carcharias right now
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post Jun 16 2009, 07:14 PM

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Is a must to have a mouse pad for Mamba?

And what Mamba has that other mouses don't that makes it so much more expensive than other mouses? Other than the 5600 dpi and being able to be wired or wireless. rclxub.gif

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bro of course la for now but later when everglide got mousefeet for mamba
and it do track only in mousepad..not cheapo's 1 that you can find it around 5-10rm...spend like 135 on destrctor or exactmat or sphex(may help)


Added on June 16, 2009, 8:27 pmhaha 1000 poling rate,right handed ergonomics design,longer battery life and a damn cool 20 USD packaging...cool charger and dual mode(wired and wireless)

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post Jun 16 2009, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 16 2009, 06:12 PM)
highly unlikely ur DA will go kong.
so u can just give me ur DA and go get the mamba if u really want it tongue.gif
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why not i giv u my DA and u gimme your mamba? XD
i would be happy even for a week....XD
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post Jun 16 2009, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 16 2009, 06:48 PM)
no one is saying to make thicker feet thats 2 or 3mm or whatever.
just thick enough to raise it past the battery cover, hardly 0.5mm thicker.
the mamba's liftoff distance should be 2 CDs anyway, more than enough space.

and newer mamba's have teflon rings.
couple of guys here have gotten teflon rings from razer as theirs was from an earlier batch that didnt have them.

just in case www.googleityoumoron.com didnt work for u...
this is from http://help.razersupport.com.
to say that cloth pad offers more control than a hard speed pad, technically may sound correct, but in reality it all comes down to your preference.
also if you actually go thru razer configurator, it recommends using mamba on a hard mat.
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jitter occurs even at stock condition, don't think it can work any better given thicker mouse feet
not sure if this happen to the rest, can be the flaw in product design or quality to begin with
I don't know if teflon ring helps while most of the time it's the firmware/driver behind this, other manufacturers would have include this in their products otherwise.
why would razer suggest a combination of mamba with hard mat? to promote the new-launched naked-exactmat-alike "sphex"? laugh.gif
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post Jun 16 2009, 10:01 PM

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im getting carcharias i think cuz dad may sponsor me 100rm
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post Jun 16 2009, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(shelke @ Jun 16 2009, 09:52 PM)
jitter occurs even at stock condition, don't think it can work any better given thicker mouse feet
not sure if this happen to the rest, can be the flaw in product design or quality to begin with
I don't know if teflon ring helps while most of the time it's the firmware/driver behind this, other manufacturers would have include this in their products otherwise.
why would razer suggest a combination of mamba with hard mat? to promote the new-launched naked-exactmat-alike "sphex"?  laugh.gif
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actually my point of having thicker mouse feet is not to cure jitter.
read properly la, its to increase the height just a little bit so the battery cover doesnt scrape the bottom.
either that, or future mamba's have the battery cover more flush, cos i can definitely feel the drag due to the cover on a cloth pad.

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post Jun 17 2009, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(H3LLKEEPER @ Jun 16 2009, 07:18 PM)
bro of course la for now but later when everglide got mousefeet for mamba
and it do track only in mousepad..not cheapo's 1 that you can find it around 5-10rm...spend like 135 on destrctor or exactmat or sphex(may help)


Added on June 16, 2009, 8:27 pmhaha 1000 poling rate,right handed ergonomics design,longer battery life and a damn cool 20 USD packaging...cool charger and dual mode(wired and wireless)
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Hmm, so a good mouse pad is a must?

and the price difference is really doh.gif for that few differences you mentioned. The mouse is really for bragging after all? rclxub.gif
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post Jun 17 2009, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 16 2009, 10:23 PM)
actually my point of having thicker mouse feet is not to cure jitter.
read properly la, its to increase the height just a little bit so the battery cover doesnt scrape the bottom.
either that, or future mamba's have the battery cover more flush, cos i can definitely feel the drag due to the cover on a cloth pad.
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no no i did get your points correctly
I just want to imply that such mod isn't worth the compensation of precision notworthy.gif
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post Jun 17 2009, 12:56 AM

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Both the Mambas I've used had no protruding battery covers. They were both fine, no draggy feeling at all. Must have been a unit specific problem (with Everdying's review unit), not a design flaw.

All newer Mambas come with the Teflon O-ring, so there shouldn't be any chatter of sensor dragging along the pad anymore. I've heard that the teflon rings do wear out easily. But for me I've received 2 extra O-rings from Razer (one from the US, one from Singapore), so that's not a problem. BTW I only requested for 1, the fact that they sent 2 is a mystery even to me.

I'm mostly using it at 2000DPI, I don't get any jittering cursors at all. Depends on how you hold it, and the surface you use it on I guess. Whatever it is, I have no regrets buying it. Best mouse I've owned.

This post has been edited by igor87: Jun 17 2009, 12:57 AM

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