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The Razer Thread V8
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igor87
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 Jun 12 2009, 04:25 PM
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Reposting my short review of the Mamba in V8, just in case anyone missed it. Hope no one minds. Cheers. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I can vouch for Blacktrix's Mamba review; it was spot on.
Here's mine.
It's bloody fast, yes. You'll need time to get used to it. Or just drop the DPI settings (adjustable to increments of 100DPI) to whatever you're comfortable with. Have no doubts, you'll find your own favourable settings in no time.
What needs to be stressed is that the main attraction point of the Mamba is NOT its speed. No one will ever NEED 5600DPI, nor will anyone use it regularly. It's the 'feel good' factor that brings it to a totally new level in mice history.
I had no mouse jittering problem, it works flawlessly on a Destructor pad. From what I've felt so far (haven't been gaming much lately though), the tracking is very slightly better than the Lachesis (I seem to be getting headshots more easily with slight flick of the wrist), but then again maybe I was just looking for excuses to justify spending so much on a mouse.
I adore the DPI switch buttons. They're by far and away the best ones that I've tried (most recent gaming mice included), and infinitely better than the ones on the Lachesis. You'll need some time to memorise the DPI light displays (all of which are fully customisable), but once you do, you'll be switching between DPI settings like never before.
Can't really say much about the battery life, as I haven't really used it for any hardcore gaming sessions as of yet. Anyhow, that won't be much of a problem as you can just plug the cable into your mouse if you worry it'll die off soon.
As for the difference between wireless and wired mode, there is none. Period.
Ergonomics wise I find it perfectly fine. I rest my whole palm on it, and it feels natural, like I can game for hours and hours without any pains. Love the rubber grips on both sides of the mouse.
All in all it's an almost flawless mouse. I said almost because it's a tad sensitive to the surface it's being used on. For me it works perfectly fine on a Destructor, but it was close to being unusable on a Goliathus Control Ed.
That's about it.
Some might complain about the lack of gimmicky features like adjustable weights or changeable grips. To me they're just that. Gimmicks. The Mamba doesn't need them, it's special enough as it is.
So anyone thinking of getting the Mamba, go get it. You won't regret it. Just make sure you use it on a hard pad.
Oh and apologies to those who find this post TLTR. |
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igor87
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Jun 12 2009, 07:00 PM
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Got my Mamba replaced by Ban Leong today.
My previous Mamba died yesterday. Don't really know what happened, it just did. No light, no movements in both wired and wireless modes.
Called Ban Leong immediately, and sure enough, I was directed to return it to the shop where I bought it from. So yeah, went over to Sri Computers in Lowyat Plaza to claim the warranty, and they said they can get it replaced in 3 to 4 weeks.
Not being pleased with that, I called Ban Leong again to complain, and the bloke on the line told me that I can come over to his office the next day (today) to get a direct one to one exchange. Awesome.
So I did just that, and he gave me a new 'review unit'. No questions asked, no hassle.
I've just finished setting up my new Mamba. Somehow it felt better than my previous one. If I remember correctly, the rubber grips feels a little smoother, better quality.
Perhaps it's a classic case of 'hand picked review test units', or maybe Razer just revised it, and it applies to all newer Mambas. I'll compare mine to my friend's unit, which he would have just bought now (from the second batch of shipment).
I'll post the differences (if there's any) here soon.
Nevermind that for now. Ban Leong did a great job of handling the situation, I'm grateful for that.
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igor87
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Jun 12 2009, 11:07 PM
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But why not Destructor? Both Lachesis and Copperhead has the Destructor listed as their optimum surface.
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igor87
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Jun 12 2009, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 12 2009, 11:13 PM) magic word is optimum, doesnt mean the rest cant be used, its just a guide for noobs who dunno what to choose. i used my CH on exactmat and also everglide dktmat, both with no probs. wait la, i havent opened the mamba yet...damn lazy... once i do i give my review on it using my goliathus. Yeah I get that, just that I find it a little weird that they listed the eXactMat, instead of the Destructor, as the optimum surface for the Mamba. Ah well, maybe they mean the Speed side of the eXactmat. Copperhead and Lachesis were both targeted towards FPS gamers, thus they need precision - Destructor. Mamba is designated for FPS/Strategy/Whatever else, so a more universal pad would fit it more - eXactMat Speed side. Or I might be wrong, whatever. Have fun figuring out how to open the Mamba case elegantly, LOL. |
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igor87
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Jun 12 2009, 11:48 PM
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Yup, well said.
happy enough with my Destructor. Only one side to choose from, which, to me, is a plus point. You get used to the pad and adapt to it faster.
With the eXactMat last time I had trouble finding my 'favourite' side as I kept flipping the damn thing over and over.
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igor87
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Jun 13 2009, 08:24 PM
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The latest firmware update for the Mamba reduced the jitters a little bit. Now it's marginally more usable on a Goliathus Control Ed, but it's still not perfect.
Both of the Mambas I've had (one from the first batch, and the replacement 'review unit') already has the Teflon O ring out of the box, so I wouldn't know how bad it was without it.
This post has been edited by igor87: Jun 13 2009, 08:24 PM
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igor87
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Jun 13 2009, 09:23 PM
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Damn, now that you've mentioned it, yeah it feels a lot less sensitive now. When making small and slow adjustments, the mouse registers this very weird, jerky response. Like it's ignoring very minor movements.
Gonna have to revert back to V1.06 then. I was surprised when I saw that both the 1.06 and 1.07 updates were dated on the same day.
Yeah you'll have to update both the mouse and the charging dock, which is quite a hassle.
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igor87
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Jun 13 2009, 09:41 PM
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Downloading V1.06 now. They could have mentioned that V1.07 would dampen minor movements. How was I supposed to know that that is the effect of the "Dynamic DPI Scaling" written in the release log.
With V1.07, if I move the mouse very slowly, it doesn't register any movements at all. Great.
This post has been edited by igor87: Jun 13 2009, 09:42 PM
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igor87
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Jun 13 2009, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(H3LLKEEPER @ Jun 13 2009, 10:48 PM) depends on what surface and grip u using,if you are right handed both perform well..note that if you use krait,i wonder why you have not insert copperhead into the wishlist(although it's a prob mouse) Copperhead and lachesis i hear many issue it's facing cuz of its high sensor or dpi(2000,4000?)so better go for good mousepad like destructor or exactmat..havent get review from users though(except everdying haha) What are you talking about, mate? The Copperhead and Lachesis were not problematic mice. I've used them both as my main mouse (Copperhead for about 2 years, Lachesis 1 year plus), and I would recommend either one of them to everyone. Only the Lachesis has a slight problem with soft mats (easily fixed with some settings tweak). The Copperhead on the other hand had no such problems. I've used it on the Mantis, Everglide Titan, SS qck, Goliathus Control Ed, eXactmat and Destructor. Both mice worked best with the Destructor, but I think that's more of a compliment towards the Destructor, rather than being a "problem" with either mice. |
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igor87
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Jun 14 2009, 01:07 AM
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The Copperhead works just fine on any surface actually. Except probably overly shiny surfaces.
The Lachesis is nowhere near as surface sensitive as the Mamba. I doesn't work very well on a Goliathus Control Ed, that's a given, but I know for sure that it works on a Mantis mat, which is essentially the same mat as the Goliathus Speed Ed.
So as long as you're not using a super rough soft pad (i.e Goliathus Control Ed), the Lachesis will serve you well. And believe me on this - it's a superb mouse.
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igor87
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Jun 14 2009, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(espada90 @ Jun 14 2009, 03:02 AM) will mamba work well with goliathus control edition? Not really. At least with relatively high DPI settings (2000dpi and up), the cursor jumps a few pixels when I click. And I can't move the mouse slowly and get a smooth response, it always registers jerky movements. It would work better on a Golliathus Speed Ed. Or perhaps the new Sphex (wait for Everdying's review to confirm). |
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igor87
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Jun 14 2009, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 14 2009, 09:44 PM) there are some small things lacking in the mamba, wont affect performance tho...cant find any mention of it in the master guide so hopefully its just undocumented. What small things? Double click speeds, sensitivity and all that? |
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igor87
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Jun 14 2009, 10:48 PM
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Actually full charge takes 4 hours. I just charged it for 6 hours the first time round though, as what these batteries normally need.
Yeah, in that particular aspect, the Mamba has a slight disadvantage. You can set any button to a particular profile, where the mouse would switch to that said profile when you press it. The problem is, the Mamba doesn't have enough buttons to really use this feature.
But in a way, you won't really need to switch profiles. You can use the driver to assign a particular profile to a specific application. so whenever the mouse detects you're starting that application, it would switch to the set profile. Pretty neat option.
Oh @ Everdying, I might be getting a Mako along with my new gaming rig. Just need a confirmation, is it worth the price?
This post has been edited by igor87: Jun 14 2009, 10:50 PM
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igor87
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Jun 14 2009, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(espada90 @ Jun 14 2009, 10:51 PM) is it true tat mamba cannot switch from wireless to wired or vice versa when ur playing or in game? wat i heard is that u need to exit change to switch... You can switch from wired to wireless whenever you want, including in game. But doing that involves pulling off the cable and plugging it into the mouse/charging dock. That would take a few seconds, during which you'll have no mouse control. |
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igor87
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Jun 15 2009, 12:01 AM
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Ok thanks anyway.
I'll probably just get the Mako. Nothing else comes close to it in the looks department. And I've tried it once, awesome for music.
Oh well, if somehow I don't like it for gaming, there's always the Megalodon. If it ever comes out.
This post has been edited by igor87: Jun 15 2009, 12:01 AM
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igor87
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Jun 17 2009, 12:56 AM
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Both the Mambas I've used had no protruding battery covers. They were both fine, no draggy feeling at all. Must have been a unit specific problem (with Everdying's review unit), not a design flaw.
All newer Mambas come with the Teflon O-ring, so there shouldn't be any chatter of sensor dragging along the pad anymore. I've heard that the teflon rings do wear out easily. But for me I've received 2 extra O-rings from Razer (one from the US, one from Singapore), so that's not a problem. BTW I only requested for 1, the fact that they sent 2 is a mystery even to me.
I'm mostly using it at 2000DPI, I don't get any jittering cursors at all. Depends on how you hold it, and the surface you use it on I guess. Whatever it is, I have no regrets buying it. Best mouse I've owned.
This post has been edited by igor87: Jun 17 2009, 12:57 AM
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igor87
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Jun 17 2009, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 17 2009, 10:39 AM) try to take a closer look at your battery cover in good light. i can clearly see the corner edges of the battery cover hardly like 0.5mm higher. if on a hard pad u dont really feel the drag caused, but go on a cloth pad then its noticeable. i could probably try to bend it in, but better still if they could recess it like how the top part of the battery cover is like. which makes me wonder why they didnt. Looked at it again, the bottom part of the battery cover on my unit sits completely flush with the bottom surface of the mouse. And I've tried it on my Goliathus Control Ed, no extra drag. They shaped the battery cover with that slanted recess so that it could be placed and removed from its pedestal dock with ease. BTW @ Everdying does your review unit have any French words on the packaging and manual/guide? Because mine does, and I distinctly remember my first unit didn't. |
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igor87
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Jun 17 2009, 12:35 PM
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Yeah I got what you mean the first time.
My Mamba has no such problems though. Even when I run my finger up through the bottom edges of the battery cover, I don't feel any indentation.
They must have though of this problem when designing it. If they were to recess the bottom half too, it would be just a little harder to remove from the dock, as it would have to be moved vertically up first (clearing the bottom recess), before you can pull it towards you in a natural manner. And they obviously thought that their manufacturing methods were capable of meeting the required dimensional tolerances. I guess one or two specimens didn't.
This post has been edited by igor87: Jun 17 2009, 12:41 PM
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igor87
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Jun 18 2009, 03:01 PM
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Wouldn't the non-slip mat give your mousepad a soggy, semi-soft, pseudo-clothpad sinking feeling?
Haven't tried it myself, but I find it hard to imagine that it would give a good feeling.
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igor87
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Jun 19 2009, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(H3LLKEEPER @ Jun 19 2009, 04:47 PM) quite easy just stick some grips on it and here i go, That's just going to ruin your DeathAdder. Mate, seriously, either just use it as it is and get used to it, or sell it and get a different mouse. |
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