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post Jan 1 2011, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Dec 31 2010, 08:36 PM)
from what i see your size should be 195/50 R15 or 195/55 R15...
FYI Bridgestone MY01 is worst than A drive... D01 and CC5 is not really better too... CC5 is entry level while D01 should be performance skip those if you wanna have safer drive...
Goodyear F1 GSD3 is king of wet but too bad it's noise is a lil noisier than Michelin PS3... PS3 is not as good as GSD3 in wet but it does it overall job slightly better coz it does gives you a lil more comfort and a lil more quiet drive... so is your choice between GSD3 (directional) or PS3 (asymmetric)...

Traction rating for the tires you listed...
1. Dunlop D01 (RM185)  - A  <performance>
2. Bridgestone MY01 (RM240) - B <sports touring>
3. Goodyear F1 (RM240) - AA <Ultra High Performance>
4. Continental CC5 (RM195) - A <entry level>
5. Michelin Pilot Sport 3 (RM245) - AA <Ultra High Performance>

others...
6. Hankook V12 Evo (less than RM200) - AA <Ultra High Performance>
7. Yokohama S Drive (around RM250) - AA <Ultra High Performance>
8. Bridgestone RE001 (around RM250) - A <Ultra High Performance>
9. Kumho Ecsta KU31 (less than RM200) - AA <Ultra High Performance>
10. Maxxis i-Pro (less than RM220) - AA <Ultra High Performance>

for me... i'm more towards grippy, quiet and a lil comfort...
1. Michelin PS3 - grippy, quiet, sidewall not too hard...
2. Hankook V12 - most comfort among the 3, grippy (about 90% of PS3), noise still ok ok
3. Goodyear GSD3 - grippy (especially in wet), side wall a lil hard, a lil noisy

others u can try is Maxxis i-Pro and Kumho ESPT KU31...
try to get those tires rated AA for traction rating...
tires i used b4 Michelin PS3 (now), Hankook V12 (now) on 2 rides... GSD3 did not dare to try coz my sifu said might not be my taste coz noisy... my fren did try out ESPT b4 not bad... almost 85% of PS3...

the best value for the current market now is V12... and i'm going to get another set for my old toy...
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Thanks for you reply.

Yup my tire size is 195/55 R15.
One of my friend who used to have Goodyear F1 GSD3 on his car also said that it's noisy.

So you recommendation is either Michelin PS3,Hankook Evo V12 or Goodyear GSD3.

My choices are a bit limited as I'm in Kuantan and there's not many choices here, I'll try look around tomorrow.
Based on your reply I'm thinking of getting:-
Maxxis i-Pro (1st choice, that is if I can find it at Kuantan)
Hankook (2nd choice, this maybe a little easier to find than Maxxis)
Michelin PS3 (3rd choice, if I can't find any of the two above)

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post Jan 1 2011, 05:36 AM

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Maxxis is i-Pro is still new not sure about the quality yet... I like hankook V12 coz it provides you slight comfort that others does not give u... but if your suspension system is soft like Vios u should get harder sidewall tires to balance up to get better handling...
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post Jan 1 2011, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Dec 31 2010, 09:16 PM)
u need to survey around... look inside Lelong for Tek Ming in Sunway, then others u can go to Automotive Garage Sales to look around...
u can also use 185/60 R14 on your ride... u can have more choice of tires on that size... Michelin XM1, Michelin Certis, Yokohama C Drive, Goodyear Duraplus, Falken 912, Hankook V8RS, Hankook Blackbird and the new Conti CC5...
from those C Drive and V8RS is a lil more pricey coz C Drive is premium comfort and V8RS is performance level...
it depends what you want...
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thank for the reply. rclxms.gif

but currently i only looking to change 2 tires for rear, cuz last time i have only changed both of my front side due to budget issue la.
i wonder if i can use 185/60 R14 as my rear and 175/65R14 for my front? hmm.gif
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post Jan 1 2011, 11:24 AM

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Yes you can. I am using it.
Anyone know what is the price for PP3?
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post Jan 1 2011, 11:43 AM

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Hi Guys, I was wondering should I be sticking to my 14" rim or change it to 15'rim ?

I got an offer from the car shop ,15'inch rim (china rim)(RM 600) +yokohoma 195/55 dunno what model (RM 190 per tyre).

The question is :

Should i take the China rim or use back taiwan rim ? Should i stick to 14" or 15" ? any significant differences ?

Thanks bro~
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post Jan 1 2011, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(lamode @ Jan 1 2011, 10:18 AM)
thank for the reply.  rclxms.gif

but currently i only looking to change 2 tires for rear, cuz last time i have only changed both of my front side due to budget issue la.
i wonder if i can use 185/60 R14 as my rear and 175/65R14 for my front?  hmm.gif
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yes you can as long as the tires at the same axles is same size...

QUOTE(McIPH @ Jan 1 2011, 11:24 AM)
Yes you can. I am using it.
Anyone know what is the price for PP3?
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PP3??? haha... it is PS3 Pilot Sport 3... what is ur size... should be between RM220~260 for 15" size...

QUOTE(anzen600 @ Jan 1 2011, 11:43 AM)
Hi Guys, I was wondering should I be sticking to my 14" rim or change it to 15'rim ?

I got an offer from the car shop ,15'inch rim (china rim)(RM 600) +yokohoma 195/55 dunno what model (RM 190 per tyre).

The question is :

Should i take the China rim or use back taiwan rim ? Should i stick to 14" or 15" ? any significant differences ?

Thanks bro~
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i think that size mostly they will offer A Drive but that price is steep for A drive... C Drive can get around RM200 only better than A Drive... then u can get better tires for that kinda $$$ like Hankook V12 and 912 or even Kumho ESPT...
for the rims i advice you to get those Lenso or Advanti Rims...i just booked 1 set of storm series (light weight) at tek ming sunway... RM900 only... chine rims i'm a bit unease to use it...
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post Jan 1 2011, 04:59 PM

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anyone knows where can i buy an original 16" mugen gp wheels?
used or new doesn't matter.
thanks in advance.

p/s: i already had the taiwan version in my garage but it was quite heavy. without tire tip the scale at 7 kg each which is quite heavy for a 16".
i need a lighter set.
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comment for falken ze522..anybody have info..share to me
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Jan 1 2011, 04:36 PM)
yes you can as long as the tires at the same axles is same size...
PP3??? haha... it is PS3 Pilot Sport 3... what is ur size... should be between RM220~260 for 15" size...
i think that size mostly they will offer A Drive but that price is steep for A drive... C Drive can get around RM200 only better than A Drive... then u can get better tires for that kinda $$$ like Hankook V12 and 912 or even Kumho ESPT...
for the rims i advice you to get those Lenso or Advanti Rims...i just booked 1 set of storm series (light weight) at tek ming sunway... RM900 only... chine rims i'm a bit unease to use it...
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Thanks for the reply bro ~i guess i will just stick with 14" at the moment..any recommendation of tyre ?prefer comfort tyre
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QUOTE(anzen600 @ Jan 1 2011, 09:44 PM)
Thanks for the reply bro ~i guess i will just stick with 14" at the moment..any recommendation of tyre ?prefer comfort tyre
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fully comfort tire i know now is michelin xm1~
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post Jan 2 2011, 02:57 AM

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maxxis i-pro is a ultra high performance tyre.
damn good grip on both dry & wet condition.
Only con is wear off very fast.
last me 43000K only.
can try it if u dont mind.
Anyway performance tyre wear off very fast.
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Jan 1 2011, 04:59 PM)
anyone knows where can i buy an original 16" mugen gp wheels?
used or new doesn't matter.
thanks in advance.

p/s: i already had the taiwan version in my garage but it was quite heavy. without tire tip the scale at 7 kg each which is quite heavy for a 16".
i need a lighter set.
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why not try the lenso rims... or advanti... quite ok... i just booked 1 set of Advanti Storm Light Weight version, 4.9kg for 15"... u can try look for it...

QUOTE(blackfuse @ Jan 1 2011, 06:30 PM)
comment for falken ze522..anybody have info..share to me
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skip that... sucks in wet...

QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Jan 1 2011, 08:59 PM)
fully comfort tire i know now is michelin xm1~
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QUOTE(Eric18 @ Jan 2 2011, 02:57 AM)
maxxis i-pro is a ultra high performance tyre.
damn good grip on both dry & wet condition.
Only con is wear off very fast.
last me 43000K only.
can try it if u dont mind.
Anyway performance tyre wear off very fast.
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43k km ok la... not bad... UHP tires is like that, PP2 wears even faster... or some others... the threadwear indicates it is around 320 should be ok... PP2 280 only and some others also... smile.gif
what tires have you used b4 the i-Pro and what tires are you using now???
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Dear all,

please let me start with my background.
I am scouting around for tyres. I drive a satria neo lite and currently on continental comfort contact cc5 tyres ("stock"). I drive to work most of the time and I don't drive very slow. On top of that, I enjoy taking corners the best I can. Whenever I am free and have the extra $$ to burn, I'd drive up to mountain roads and "play".

Due to my driving style, I find that the stock tyres just cannot accomodate my driving style. While it is satisfactorily acceptable at lower speed corners and/or uphill things are very unpredictable at high speed corners especially on the downhill. It is just too hard to drive without having to struggle with the tyres. Again, the stock tyres offers absolutely no confidence when driving on the downhill. After couple of times, I think i'm tired of struggling.

Having said the above, I have been eyeing for some tyres which suits my driving style. That is the reason why I decided not to go all out on mountain roads before I go for a tyre change.

I have read and heard of Bridgestone Potenza RE001 ("RE01"), Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 ("AD07") and Michelin PS3 ("PS3").
While the RE01 and AD07 have very positive feedbacks, I heard of mixed reviews in relation to the PS3. Some say "tak boleh pakai", some say "ok" and even some say "worst". However, from online research, somehow different story. Particularly this website -->http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Michelin/Pilot-Sport-3-PS3.htm which rated the PS3 very very highly. Even higher than the AD07.

While I intend to try out different tyres, I would like to get a good start by choosing a good tyre. I am looking for a tyre which is very grippy and reasonably well in rain. I don't want to go for tyres with astronomical prices at this moment. To me, the RE01 is pricey at my current life station. Lastly, the tyres shouldnt worn out too rapidly.
Oh, I don't give a damn about noise level but ride shouldn't be too stiff.

So it's Performance > Durability > Price.

Can anyone help? Thank you

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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Jan 2 2011, 10:48 AM)
Dear all,

please let me start with my background.
I am scouting around for tyres. I drive a satria neo lite and currently on continental comfort contact cc5 tyres ("stock"). I drive to work most of the time and I don't drive very slow. On top of that, I enjoy taking corners the best I can. Whenever I am free and have the extra $$ to burn, I'd drive up to mountain roads and "play".

Due to my driving style, I find that the stock tyres just cannot accomodate my driving style. While it is satisfactorily acceptable at lower speed corners and/or uphill things are very unpredictable at high speed corners especially on the downhill. It is just too hard to drive without having to struggle with the tyres. Again, the stock tyres offers absolutely no confidence when driving on the downhill. After couple of times, I think i'm tired of struggling.

Having said the above, I have been eyeing for some tyres which suits my driving style. That is the reason why I decided not to go all out on mountain roads before I go for a tyre change.

I have read and heard of Bridgestone Potenza RE001 ("RE01"), Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 ("AD07") and Michelin PS3 ("PS3").
While the RE01 and AD07 have very positive feedbacks, I heard of mixed reviews in relation to the PS3. Some say "tak boleh pakai", some say "ok" and even some say "worst". However, from online research, somehow different story. Particularly this website -->http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Michelin/Pilot-Sport-3-PS3.htm which rated the PS3 very very highly. Even higher than the AD07.

While I intend to try out different tyres, I would like to get a good start by choosing a good tyre. I am looking for a tyre which is very grippy and reasonably well in rain. I don't want to go for tyres with astronomical prices at this moment. To me, the RE01 is pricey at my current life station. Lastly, the tyres shouldnt worn out too rapidly.
Oh, I don't give a damn about noise level but ride shouldn't be too stiff.

So it's Performance > Durability > Price.

Can anyone help? Thank you
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u might wanna try michelin's bro called BfGoodrich since noise level is not an issue for u~
btw PS3 is much better than AD07 during wet but during dry road AD07 still pawn over PS3
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QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Jan 2 2011, 10:57 AM)
u might wanna try michelin's bro called BfGoodrich since noise level is not an issue for u~
btw PS3 is much better than AD07 during wet but during dry road AD07 still pawn over PS3
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haha thanks bro. I am looking at PS3 and AD07. Later when got more money only go for higher specs.
Kcng said AD07 is too soft and hence, poor durability. LOL wonder if that's the price to pay smile.gif
U're spot on, everywhere i read claims the superior dry grip of the AD07.
So which one u think I should get huh?

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Performance > Durability > Price.

ad07 > re001/ps3 > bfgoodrich

oh,wait~
if i'm not wrong ad07 no longer in production edi~
hahahaa~
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post Jan 2 2011, 01:41 PM

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thanks to rascal stich bro and michael9413 ~

i took the older batch ~michelin certia at Rm 165 per tyre for my 14"
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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Jan 2 2011, 11:01 AM)
haha thanks bro. I am looking at PS3 and AD07. Later when got more money only go for higher specs.
Kcng said AD07 is too soft and hence, poor durability. LOL wonder if that's the price to pay smile.gif
U're spot on, everywhere i read claims the superior dry grip of the AD07.
So which one u think I should get huh?
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bro, you can't expect much from CC5 as it is at the lowest category in tire ranking (comfort)...
you have Comfort, Comfort Premium, High Performance, Ultra High Performance, Extreme Performance, Max Performance...

Comfort - CC5
Comfort Premium - Michelin Primacy, Continental CPC2
High Performance - Falken 912, Continental CSC1
Ultra High Performance - Hankook V12, Bridgestone RE001, Toyo T1R, Yokohama S Drive, Kumho ESPT, Goodyear GSD3...
Max Performance - Michelin PS3
Extreme - Toyo R1R or R888, Yokohama AD07/08

(Model is general base on categories, it depends the availability of your size...)


RE001 is expensive then or even PS3 and AD07/AD08... if not mistaken ur size is 195/50 R16 or 195/55 R15... what is ur size...
for 195/50 R16 you have limited choices... if not change to 205/45 R16 for better choice...
you can use PS3 actually which is good enough for most people... of course you heard mix results for PS3 coz some ppl used to Max/Extreme Performance Categories which give them maximum grip in dry but when they change to PS3 it does not gives them the grip they wanted but in wet, PS3 tops most of the Max performance tires where it give you good wet traction... and it gives you a lil comfort too, which the noise of the tire is minimal...
if you want value for $$$ then Hankook V12 might be good for you but it only available for 205/45 R16 for 16" size...

FYI a good 16" tires will cost you above RM300/pc, RE001 and PS3 is over RM300/pc... so if you are looking for value i highly recommend you the Hankook V12 (as you prefer to maintain the comfort), then Kumho ESPT or BF Goodrich


QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Jan 2 2011, 11:10 AM)
Performance > Durability > Price.

ad07 > re001/ps3 > bfgoodrich

oh,wait~
if i'm not wrong ad07 no longer in production edi~
hahahaa~
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replaced AD07 with AD08 already... his size will not be cheap...
BTW ur ranking is good... AD series is good but it is pricey... RE001 and PS3 is nice but not really cheap too...

QUOTE(anzen600 @ Jan 2 2011, 01:41 PM)
thanks to rascal stich bro and michael9413 ~

i took the older batch ~michelin certia at Rm 165 per tyre for my 14"
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no prob... cheers...

This post has been edited by michael9413: Jan 2 2011, 02:23 PM
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HI all,

I am using 185/65R15 (stock tire) for my Latio, will have to change my tires soon (before Feb). I am considering whether should i use back the same size or should i go for 195/60R15 which is 1% different from the stock tire.

Which tire will be more suitable for me? i will go for Comfort + quiet, PS3? Hankook V12?
Any of these have 195/60R15 tires?
How much?

Thx
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for pricing and tires model that ppl buy or used please refer to here...

Price list Thread

for the size of 195/60 R15 you only have premium comfort tires... it does not contain any performance range of tires... Hankook V12 and PS3 starts at 55 series and below...
the choice of tires is Yokohama C Drive, Goodyear Assurance, Bridgestone GR90, Michelin Primacy LC, Toyo C1S...
entry level tires like Yokohama A Drive, Goodyear Ducaro, Bridgestone AR10, Michelin XM1, Toyo Teo Plus... depends what you want...
if you really want to get performance tires then then only choice is either upgrade the rims to 16" to use 205/50 R16...

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