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post Jun 2 2009, 04:35 AM, updated 16y ago

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UPDATE Nov 30th 2009
Join this group to view all dedicated servers:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/eClub


So its sunk in. It was revealed in the Microsoft E3 press conference that Left 4 Dead 2 will be released on November 17th 2009.



IGN has a whole bunch of in game footage:
http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/14352245/lef...xeownage_052809

A new wandering witch
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But perhaps most exciting is the Wandering Witch. Another new feature of L4D2 is setting some of the campaigns in the daylight. The campaign we played was such, and it’s oddly frightening to see it all happening while the sun shines. Making our way through the sprawling streets of New Orleans, desperately trying to reach a distant bridge at the other end of which was lay an apparent helicopter rescue, the only time we needed our torches was when making our way through buildings. And it seems in the daytime, the Witch has a bit more pep. Rather than sitting crouched, sobbing, singing, now this most terrifying of gaming enemies methodically paces around, wandering where she sees fit, although still apparently zoned out. She may be on foot, but she’s no more interested in being disturbed. This adds in a whole new aspect to Witch evasion.


A different type of finale called Gauntlet where you need to move
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Gauntlets are one of the new elements that will occur, as one of many moves to attempt to make L4D2 a more consistently thrilling experience. In the final moments of the campaign, finally reaching the bridge, we had to cross it. At the other end lay the potential of rescue. But it was one long, straight, inescapable path down which the Director was able to screw with us as much as ‘he’ liked. Standing still was never and option, but trying to stay high, jumping from roof to roof of the vans and cars, very much was. Someone sniping from the back here proves helpful, while a couple of at the front wielding axes or frying pans was equally effective. These make for interesting moments, an almost unrelenting onslaught from in front, but the peculiar safety of knowing that nothing you didn’t let get past you would be attacking from behind.
Another change to finale...Valve wants to create triggers at a distance that stops the event. This will force you to move ..
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Another very smart change is to prevent sneaky players from trying to sit out the triggered events. In those moments in L4D where you had to press a button that began a frantic attack until an elevator arrived, or a door opened, it seems too many were crouching in a corner together and waiting for it to all die down. L4D2 has plans to prevent such treachery. Now some of the events you start can only be stopped by reaching a further target. In an extremely tense sequence, we had to make our way through a labyrinth of alarmed cars to reach a distant point that would finally see the attack fade. Trying desperately to avoid hitting any of the cars, and thus making the situation far worse, while having to make constant forward progress, amped things up significantly.


The director can now change the path and modify the layout of the level
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The Director even has discretion over the layout of certain sections of levels. In New Orleans we reached a graveyard that is different each time you play. As Valve explained to us, if the Director gives you a pretty straight route right through it, it’s an insult to how poorly you’ve been playing that the omnipotent AI thought it needed to make things a little easier for you. If you’ve won his robotic respect, then it’ll be a far more convoluted journey.



http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/06/01...iew/#more-12370

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This post has been edited by frags: Nov 30 2009, 12:03 PM
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post Jun 2 2009, 04:36 AM

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WHERE IS MY DLC VALVE?
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post Jun 2 2009, 04:49 AM

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post Jun 2 2009, 04:51 AM

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*fingers crossed*

Owners of L4D will enjoy a 50% discount on the purchase of L4D2
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OWE EMM GEE!
well, makes me glad i havent bought l4d tongue.gif
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post Jun 2 2009, 04:55 AM

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QUOTE(strife_personified @ Jun 2 2009, 04:52 AM)
OWE EMM GEE!
well, makes me glad i havent bought l4d tongue.gif
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I hope you have your flame shield on.

*RAGEEEEEEEE*
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post Jun 2 2009, 05:07 AM

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Pretty much sums my rage
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Again
WHERES MY DLC
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QUOTE(TehWateva @ Jun 2 2009, 04:55 AM)
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I hope you have your flame shield on.

*RAGEEEEEEEE*
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i do feel bad for you guys who did indeed purchase l4d, its not that it was a bad game, but its like getting played out. however, it just seems like valve is thinking with their pockets, which are probably feeling the pinch. pretty soon we'll all be hearing or seeing the steampowered threads shouting "Valve == EA". and it'd be true, too. we're only frustrated because we were treated well, and it feels like we've been backstabbed.
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Valve you motherf***ing son of a b****

Ive only had the game for 5 goddamn months and in 6 ima get forced to drain out on a better one. f***ing asses vmad.gif vmad.gif mad.gif
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actually I rather blame this on the development studio and the L4D overhype. The development studio was not quite as good as expanding the game compared to the TF2 studio (who never take themselves seriously),
Oh well, I have stopped playing the game anyways for a while now (last time I played was during CF), and I doubt I would be getting this
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lol left4dead seems to be the in thing now ma.
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A new wandering witch
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But perhaps most exciting is the Wandering Witch. Another new feature of L4D2 is setting some of the campaigns in the daylight. The campaign we played was such, and it’s oddly frightening to see it all happening while the sun shines. Making our way through the sprawling streets of New Orleans, desperately trying to reach a distant bridge at the other end of which was lay an apparent helicopter rescue, the only time we needed our torches was when making our way through buildings. And it seems in the daytime, the Witch has a bit more pep. Rather than sitting crouched, sobbing, singing, now this most terrifying of gaming enemies methodically paces around, wandering where she sees fit, although still apparently zoned out. She may be on foot, but she’s no more interested in being disturbed. This adds in a whole new aspect to Witch evasion.


A different type of finale called Gauntlet where you need to move
QUOTE
Gauntlets are one of the new elements that will occur, as one of many moves to attempt to make L4D2 a more consistently thrilling experience. In the final moments of the campaign, finally reaching the bridge, we had to cross it. At the other end lay the potential of rescue. But it was one long, straight, inescapable path down which the Director was able to screw with us as much as ‘he’ liked. Standing still was never and option, but trying to stay high, jumping from roof to roof of the vans and cars, very much was. Someone sniping from the back here proves helpful, while a couple of at the front wielding axes or frying pans was equally effective. These make for interesting moments, an almost unrelenting onslaught from in front, but the peculiar safety of knowing that nothing you didn’t let get past you would be attacking from behind.
Another change to finale...Valve wants to create triggers at a distance that stops the event. This will force you to move ..
QUOTE
Another very smart change is to prevent sneaky players from trying to sit out the triggered events. In those moments in L4D where you had to press a button that began a frantic attack until an elevator arrived, or a door opened, it seems too many were crouching in a corner together and waiting for it to all die down. L4D2 has plans to prevent such treachery. Now some of the events you start can only be stopped by reaching a further target. In an extremely tense sequence, we had to make our way through a labyrinth of alarmed cars to reach a distant point that would finally see the attack fade. Trying desperately to avoid hitting any of the cars, and thus making the situation far worse, while having to make constant forward progress, amped things up significantly.


The director can now change the path and modify the layout of the level
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The Director even has discretion over the layout of certain sections of levels. In New Orleans we reached a graveyard that is different each time you play. As Valve explained to us, if the Director gives you a pretty straight route right through it, it’s an insult to how poorly you’ve been playing that the omnipotent AI thought it needed to make things a little easier for you. If you’ve won his robotic respect, then it’ll be a far more convoluted journey.



http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/06/01...iew/#more-12370
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QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Jun 2 2009, 06:27 AM)
lol left4dead seems to be the in thing now ma.
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Captain Lambat. Somehow after it's DLC, it lost all of it's novelty. Looking at the valve stats, TF2 went back up in popularity after all the hilarious updates and debacle over the weapon drop system.

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hi , left 4 dead game of the year edition not good ? normal left 4 dead good ? sry i not much understand -.-
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wtf?? I just bought l4d! not even a month, now this? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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Yay, Valve Became EA........
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So we all sure that this is a new game and not a free DLC remaking the whole game engine?
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.. what the ?
why not a dlc instead of a whole new game. damn valve
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lol ! FRYPAN ! They should make this game more customize-able ! oh man ! another marketing game -.-
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well it will be released in Nov. so for those who just bought it recently. u still have another 5-6 months to enjoy L4D smile.gif
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QUOTE(king99 @ Jun 2 2009, 07:01 AM)
Yay, Valve Became EA........
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blink.gif god damn spot on!

This is not very Valve like.....
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I hope it dosent require another another God like PC to play this.
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dlc? It looks nice
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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Jun 2 2009, 07:44 AM)
dlc? It looks nice
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yeah, paid dlc

Edit: thanks frag for a whine thread

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wow .. didnt L4D just came out this year? .. and L4D2 is coming out year end?

fantastic tongue.gif .. i havent buy L4D yet haha
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no what does DLC stand for lolz
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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Jun 2 2009, 07:59 AM)
no what does DLC stand for lolz
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Downloadable content.

QUOTE(Abyssio @ Jun 2 2009, 07:52 AM)
yeah, paid dlc

Edit: thanks frag for a whine thread
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wait... so its DLC that we gotta pay for. or was that a joke being, we gotta fork out 50usd for it doh.gif
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har... this seem to be able to be done with the current L4D with a little DLC.
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What. The. Hell?

L4D 2 when the original L4D is barely 2 years old??

Really Turtle Rock...what were you guys thinking??



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I would be happier that they release some more power up for TF2!
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QUOTE(Abyssio @ Jun 2 2009, 07:52 AM)
yeah, paid dlc

Edit: thanks frag for a whine thread
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No Abyssio. There is no indication that this is a DLC. They are putting this as a sequel. Which means it will be a standalone game with retail and all that.


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QUOTE(radkliler @ Jun 2 2009, 08:37 AM)
What. The. Hell?

L4D 2 when the original L4D is barely 2 years old??

Really Turtle Rock...what were you guys thinking??
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Left 4 Dead is barely 1 year old. Released November 18th 2008.

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This news disappoints me tremendously...

Valve has always touted themselves as the leaders of PC gaming and one of that includes constant free updates for its games, which ensures that the playerbase doesn't move on and it keeps growing as time goes by (As evidenced by the huge runway success of TF2)

This goes against that idea COMPLETELY.

This reeks of consolitis (As much as I hate using derogative fanboy-esque terms, this one seems apt). A sequel for a multiplayer game a year after release? Only one free update so far? With practically only one new map?

Compared to TF2, its first major update brought in a totally new gametype and unlockable system. To add insult to injury, TF2 wasn't even a full priced game compared to L4D.

One of the best things about TF2 was its free weekends with each update. It always ended up bringing in newer players afterwards which resulted in the playerbase always remaining balanced between the regular and hardcore players. Plus, ppl felt confident that their purchases would be worth it despite coming in late.

Why Valve? Why?

Even if owners of L4D can get it at a discount, technically, this is akin to paid DLC for L4D... Which is NOT what Valve stands for (The most annoying thing about paid DLC in a multiplayer game is that it fragments the playerbase)

A part of me just died today...
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QUOTE(xXAaronXx @ Jun 2 2009, 07:40 AM)
I hope it dosent require another another God like PC to play this.
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Hope not....or else I'm not getting this,no cash to upgrade my pc yet...
Btw,why don't the Valve makes it as an expansion of the previous L4d instead of a whole brand new game.......
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QUOTE(MicLord @ Jun 2 2009, 09:06 AM)
Hope not....or else I'm not getting this,no cash to upgrade my pc yet...
Btw,why don't the Valve makes it as an expansion of the previous L4d instead of a whole brand new game.......
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No clue...

I still don't understand why they couldn't include those "new content" into the first L4D as micro-DLCs.

They fact they decide to churn out a sequel this fast (thx frags for the correction) is highly unlike Valve.

The fact that they patched in weather (Sawmill) and new game modes (Payload , Payload Race , Arena) and maps ( Hoodoo , Badwater Basin , Fastlane, etc....) in TF2 , I don't get why they couldn't do that with L4D.

But tbh, I don't really like L4D anyway , so even if they release this as a DLC , I'd most likely play it for a while , then return to TF2.

I much prefer going to arcades to play House Of The Dead rather than playing L4D.
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QUOTE(xXAaronXx @ Jun 2 2009, 07:40 AM)
I hope it dosent require another another God like PC to play this.
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well, if it is like the original l4d, then dun need god like pc gua.

my ancient rig

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can play l4d nicely. thumbup.gif

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hmm.. the new tank looks weird and excited about new infected... maybe the hunter even nicer..
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Good~~~ i like it, there's new survivor too....
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They gonna make L4D3 and make it that all 8 survivors meet each other at one point soon huh

I don't think that's a new tank, its just a new special infected.
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QUOTE(itsClois @ Jun 2 2009, 09:54 AM)
They gonna make L4D3 and make it that all 8 survivors meet each other at one point soon huh

I don't think that's a new tank, its just a new special infected.
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Its called a Charger. It is supposed to charge at you to avoid survivors camping in a single enclosed location.
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i hope L4D2 have new playing mode like we can play as infected in the campaign single/co-op story mode, and the AI would take charge on the human survivors to work towards their objective and escape the zombie onslaught
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If they ever gonna release L4D2, Pls merge L4D1 and L4D2 so we can maintain the player base.....or else ppl hosting server for L4D 1 will stop hosting it for L4D2......which make L4D1 a dead game.
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I've seen the survivors for Left 4 Dead 2. Oooh great, instead of playing as the always-cute Zoey, I get to play as a nigger crack whore. Oh and Louis is replaced by a fat bsatard.

Smart move Valve.

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QUOTE(MicLord @ Jun 2 2009, 09:06 AM)
Hope not....or else I'm not getting this,no cash to upgrade my pc yet...
Btw,why don't the Valve makes it as an expansion of the previous L4d instead of a whole brand new game.......
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they will be using the source graphic engine again...definitely wont need to upgrade to play...but buying this game makes me think twice
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QUOTE(mylife4nerzhul @ Jun 2 2009, 10:50 AM)
I've seen the survivors for Left 4 Dead 2. Oooh great, instead of playing as the always-cute Zoey, I get to play as a nigger crack whore. Oh and Louis is replaced by a fat bsatard.

Smart move Valve.
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Exactly a year after L4D released, arent that abit too early? an expansion should be more suitable. It doensnt matter for me though as i spend TF2 and L4D time are the same, already worth my money.
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about the L4D owners get to buy it at 50% discount, true?
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How much will L4D2 be? And the source for the 50% discount for L4D owners??

Since melee weapons are added, they should as well as remove the unlimited ammo for pistol.
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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Jun 2 2009, 12:39 PM)
So as for me, i will still getting it biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(itsClois @ Jun 2 2009, 12:38 PM)
How much will L4D2 be? And the source for the 50% discount for L4D owners??

Since melee weapons are added, they should as well as remove the unlimited ammo for pistol.
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QUOTE(radkliler @ Jun 2 2009, 11:44 AM)
L4D 2 is a full retail game and this must be paid...but apparently...L4D owners can get 50% off the game IF GOTTEN ON STEAM
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Meh, probably won't get it. I'm aiming for Kotak Oren and MW2 first =/. How disappointing.

With so many nice games coming out late this year and next year, I most likely won't even touch L4D, much less L4D2.
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BOIKOT L4D2 tongue.gif ph34r.gif
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Why so fast release sequel? The MP player base havent even stable yet,as the game is not even 1 year old.

This is ridiculous and i hope they dont keep releasing sequels.Its not like L4D has no more potential to expand while the the game feels so empty,even till now.

I'll go FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU if TF3 sequel is announced.
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but really, L4D2, just new map, maybe a new zombie, new skin, and melee weapon. tat its? compile make dlc better.
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^ I believe they gonna fixed a lot of flaws from L4D wink.gif
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Yes, AI Director 2.0 that forces you to move.

Less camping, but still....
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which can be easily done through their steam client (dlc). like the majority of valve games..
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Dunno whether they can't or just lazy. ARGH really regret buying L4D.

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Maybe this time Valve make L4D2 into a full game! With full single player storyline like Resident Evil series.
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Maybe this time Valve make L4D2 into a full game! With full single player storyline like Resident Evil series.
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QUOTE(300078 @ Jun 2 2009, 03:25 PM)
Maybe this time Valve make L4D2 into a full game! With full single player storyline like Resident Evil series.
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That's sounds better to make as a full game than make a look-like-minor change as a new whole game...
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Where's the post containing info about the new survivors?

$3000 Suit guy - Nic
Mechanic - Elis
Cable tv news reporter - Rochelle
Football Coach - Coach

New item includes incendiary rounds that burns zombies upon contact, but you have to use it right after you got it, no saving it for later.
There's another variation of common zombie, Hazmat Suit Zombie, that is tougher than normal zombie in health, and also fireproof (molotov, incendiary rounds don't work well)
The timeline is supposed to be after L4D1, hence the advanced mutation.

Oh, and they said that they are trying to merge L4D1 and L4D2 altogether, to prevent these problem:

-People who want to play L4D1 campaign have to quit L4D2 and start L4D1
-Xbox360 users have to swap disc to play L4D1 or L4D2.

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Anyone seen the gameplay vids yet?

http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/14352245/lef...arm_052809.html

Put this on the first post biggrin.gif

edit: my thoughts - a bit cartoonish, don't you think? it has less of a horror feel to it. to be honest it really looks like a modded version of l4d - re-skinned characters, re-skinned weapons, etc.

still looks fun to play nonetheless

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I've watched at the vids on IGN, looks to me like they did a cheap mod and is trying to sell it as a full game. C'mon Valve, what happened to your episodic vision? Totally dissapointed.
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QUOTE(ZipD @ Jun 2 2009, 04:05 PM)
I've watched at the vids on IGN, looks to me like they did a cheap mod and is trying to sell it as a full game. C'mon Valve, what happened to your episodic vision? Totally dissapointed.
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So if its renamed to Left 4 Dead: Episode 2, and put price tag, you'll buy it?

I would.
Maybe because I want it, or plain reason to spend money, tongue.gif
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I wont get it Id just save for SC2 and SF4.
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I'm not going to bother with L4D anymore..

I'll just wait for SC2 and Old Republic with Operation Flashpoint
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QUOTE(Sewerspeakers @ Jun 2 2009, 04:09 PM)
So if its renamed to Left 4 Dead: Episode 2, and put price tag, you'll buy it?

I would.
Maybe because I want it, or plain reason to spend money,  tongue.gif
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I applaud your attempt at fanboyism but you must have known that an episodic/DLC price is cheaper no?

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QUOTE(Sewerspeakers @ Jun 2 2009, 03:49 PM)
Oh, and they said that they are trying to merge L4D1 and L4D2 altogether, to prevent these problem:

-People who want to play L4D1 campaign have to quit L4D2 and start L4D1
-Xbox360 users have to swap disc to play L4D1 or L4D2.
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I dont see the reason why they cant just merge the game.

CoH did that,with OF and ToV.Still the same old exe,but you might have different campaigns.

Screw XBox.Causing whole lot of trouble.

QUOTE(Sewerspeakers @ Jun 2 2009, 04:09 PM)
So if its renamed to Left 4 Dead: Episode 2, and put price tag, you'll buy it?

I would.
Maybe because I want it, or plain reason to spend money,  tongue.gif
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No.

They want to milk me with little content.No.

Even EP1 i also dont bother.
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eh my bt joke was deleted. lol... laugh.gif
after all these years of supporting and became a valve fanboy...good bye valve. MW2 comes out on October. yay.


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Yes,MW2.

Time to go back to FPS.
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MW2 is November, not October, the 11.10.09 is using MM/DD/YY format.
Also that it comes a week earlier than L4D2.
Another game that is on November is Assassin Creed 2, which release date is the same as L4D2.

More reason added to delay L4D2, yes?

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They gonna make L4D3 and make it that all 8 survivors meet each other at one point soon huh

I don't think that's a new tank, its just a new special infected.
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So L4D3 will be "8-PLAYERS COOP"!.. heh

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QUOTE(Sewerspeakers @ Jun 2 2009, 04:47 PM)
MW2 is November ler, not October, the 11.10.09 is using MM/DD/YY format.
Also that it comes a week earlier than L4D2.

The thing about merging L4D and L4D2 is on IGN preview.
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MW2 is gonna rape L4D2 like no tomorrow.

Somehow,feels like this year,there is a lot of 2s.MW2,SC2,Operation Flashpoint 2,L4D2.

Game developers run ou of ideas for new IP?
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 2 2009, 04:51 PM)
MW2 is gonna rape L4D2 like no tomorrow.

Somehow,feels like this year,there is a lot of 2s.MW2,SC2,Operation Flashpoint 2,L4D2.

Game developers run ou of ideas for new IP?
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Assassin's Creed 2, Uncharted 2 (oh wait thats not PC), Mass Effect 2.

You're right. shocking.gif
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MW2?
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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Jun 2 2009, 04:56 PM)
MW2?
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 2 2009, 04:51 PM)
MW2 is gonna rape L4D2 like no tomorrow.

Somehow,feels like this year,there is a lot of 2s.MW2,SC2,Operation Flashpoint 2,L4D2.

Game developers run ou of ideas for new IP?
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LOL ! officially MW2 is gona rape l4d2 ! 1 of my must-buy-game-listed tongue.gif
but to those who want release stress...lol go for l4d 2 ! those who wan non stop action pack ! MW2 !!!!
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When L4D launched, I didn't buy it coz IMO it's just a coop game, the VS mode doesn't impress me so the replay value is low compare with TF2. Eventually I bought it during they've a big discount last time, and as I expected I got bored very quick then switched back to TF2.

I'm not that upset compare with other ppl here since I didn't buy it at full price, and sorry I won't buy it again no matter how many versions that they're going to release.
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Aiyah, all the 2s can rape this L4D2. Especially MW2 and ME2.

The gameplay video is so lame. The 'activate' icon is the same as L4D's. Come ON Valve.
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QUOTE(Sewerspeakers @ Jun 2 2009, 04:55 PM)
Assassin's Creed 2, Uncharted 2 (oh wait thats not PC), Mass Effect 2.

You're right.  shocking.gif
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Still got,Bad Company 2,DiRT2,Sup Com 2,DoW2(released).

2009 is the year of 2s.

QUOTE(secondrate @ Jun 2 2009, 05:29 PM)
Aiyah, all the 2s can rape this L4D2. Especially MW2 and ME2.

The gameplay video is so lame. The 'activate' icon is the same as L4D's. Come ON Valve.
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ME2?

Whats that?
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Oh noss.....why they are releasing the 2nd part so fast? Can't they just focus on making DLC for players????I'm sure Left 4 Dead still has many potential left in it to be developed.
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Shortest period of time between sequels award I think goes to L4D. I may stand corrected though.

ME2 = Mass Effect 2.
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QUOTE(secondrate @ Jun 2 2009, 05:36 PM)
Shortest period of time between sequels award I think goes to L4D. I may stand corrected though.

ME2 = Mass Effect 2.
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Oh,that one.
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Let's see whether will Valve do a good job after releasing it...if they fail to impress what's in L4D2, then I think most of the gamers of L4D will certainly stick back to L4D.
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After watching nearly all the trailers on L4D2, izzit juz me or.. it looks exactly same like L4D.. i mean.. i don't see any improvements in terms of gfx at all (more detailed textures etc.)... just added new monsters/characters/weapons etc. which basically just added new characters models into the game and yea.. its in the "daylight" now instead of "night" all the time..

As most mentioned, it certainly its DLC-able rather named as a sequel.

Btw, the L4D2 might lose some L4D 'touch' as L4D2 in the daylight now, as in the night, alot textures/gfx can be hidden and in the daylight..imo.. its less scary/eerie too.

QUOTE(secondrate @ Jun 2 2009, 05:36 PM)
Shortest period of time between sequels award I think goes to L4D. I may stand corrected though.

ME2 = Mass Effect 2.
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MassEffect was released at 2007 which for console (X360) only first, then a year later only made it for PC.

So basically MassEffect its a 2-years old game liaoz.

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This extract was taken back in 2008 before Left 4 Dead was released

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Valve intends to support hotly anticipated zombie survival shooter Left 4 Dead post-release with new characters, new maps, new achievements and new weapons in order to grow the community, Gabe Newell has revealed.

Speaking to VideoGamer.com at Leipzig Games Convention, the Valve co-founder and managing director said the developer intended to follow a similar downloadable content policy as it has with Team Fortress 2.

Left 4 Dead, set for release on PC and Xbox 360 on November 21 in Europe, is primarily a four-player cooperative game that sees a group of Survivors battle through four 'Movies' and against 28 Days Later-style zombies called The Infected.

Newell said that Valve's support of the game post-launch will be essential for growing the community.

He said: "One of the things that we're doing is we seem to be in a transition between games as a package product and games more of a service. So if you look at Team Fortress 2, one of things that's really helped grow the community is the continuous updates, where we release new maps, new character classes, new unlockables, new weapons. And we tell the stories about the characters, like the meet the sniper, or meet the sandwich. And that ongoing delivery of content really seems to grow the community.

"So each time we've released one of those for Team Fortress 2 we've seen about a 20% increase in the number of people who are playing online. And that number is really important because it determines how many community created maps there are, how many servers are running, and so on. So we'll do the same thing with Left 4 Dead where we'll have the initial release and then we'll release more movies, more characters, more weapons, unlockables, achievements, because that's the way you continue to grow a community over time."


Such Lies Valve! Such Lies!

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^ Er Tomato, what's your point?

I hope L4D doesn't go... well dead after this L4D2 fiasco.

Doesn't it look the same? Smoker also looks the same. Not fun with melee combat liao and daylight where got scary. ohmy.gif
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no point of the flash light effect now. good one.
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Urgh...Bought L4D expecting them to support it like how they support TF2.
I feel I wasted my cash even though I bought it when its on promo (imagine what you guys who brought it at full price felt)

Meh. Won't be getting this. Save money for MW2, D3, SC2.
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Those improvements from L4D2 could be updates for L4D sad.gif

More black dudes now, Louis got some friends @@
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Before MW2, I'm getting TF2. I just hope I don't kena con by Valve again. What if I wake up a week later and see 'TF3 COMING SOON!'. Mati la doh.gif .

Craze, I feel pissed I bought it at full price. cry.gif

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QUOTE(secondrate @ Jun 2 2009, 06:22 PM)
^ Before MW2, I'm getting TF2. I just hope I don't kena con by Valve again. What if I wake up a week later and see 'TF3 COMING SOON!'. Mati la.
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Lol if Valve really want to milk the TF to max, every big update for a class they can claim as new game already. So image the latest sniper/spy update is TF6/7 and you've to pay for it, I'll terus quit playing TF.
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Which is Ellis the mechanic?? The big dude or the scout guy...

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shit, the invasyon of nikka, hope they don't have stage with KFC restaurant..else this game wont move.
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the coat guy on the far left looks like a sicillian mafia....lol
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What happen to the old people?

All dead?
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left for dead lor...
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shit, the invasyon of nikka, hope they don't have stage with KFC restaurant..else this game wont move.
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instead of peelz ..

chickinz here
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I'm spergin' out with nerd rage now. I will never buy L4D2 at full price, ever. Maybe when it's heavily discounted, but never at full price with all the crap Valve just hauled upon us. Instead, I will use $20 to preorder NS2 instead. I am talking with my money here, money which Valve will not have because they decided to nickel and dime us all by releasing a map pack at full retail price.

Suck it down.
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QUOTE(old_calculator @ Jun 2 2009, 07:18 PM)
instead of peelz ..

chickinz here
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Yes. And instead of molotovs, we have flaming nuggets instead.
Nuggets here!
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even if it is like 80% off i also wont buy. cos it should be free DLC!
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Okay. Imagine that TF2 was released. As time goes by, we get some balance tweaks, a map or two, new arena mode, but nothing else special.

Then 8 months later, Valve announces TF3, which is basically TF2, but with all the class updates and the new maps that came with them.

You can't get the class updates/tweaks, maps, new payload mode and new fancy weapons in TF2, you have to buy TF3.

This is what L4D2 is like. Making us pay for updates. f*** you, Valve. Namco Bandai at least has the decency to not charge full retail for updates.
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What happen to the old people?

All dead?
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The old cast escaped from the outbreak?remember?you played through that game before, right?
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QUOTE(Crazegamer @ Jun 2 2009, 07:34 PM)
Yes. And instead of molotovs, we have flaming nuggets instead.
Nuggets here!
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QUOTE(old_calculator @ Jun 2 2009, 07:49 PM)
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Racist? How are kfc nuggets racist??? blink.gif
Seriously, please explain coz now I am confused...

QUOTE(Omochao @ Jun 2 2009, 07:45 PM)
The old cast escaped from the outbreak?remember?you played through that game before, right?
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Old cast....Well they died. Didn't you know?


Ok...sorry for spam tongue.gif
I don't think cheese played l4d
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They look funnies. Wheres the hawt chick that everyone is supposed to save and stare at while being rezzzed shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif

While here, whats SC2?
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jun 2 2009, 07:36 PM)
even if it is like 80% off i also wont buy. cos it should be free DLC!
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Yeap,it should be a free DLC in the first place.

QUOTE(Omochao @ Jun 2 2009, 07:45 PM)
The old cast escaped from the outbreak?remember?you played through that game before, right?
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Damn,i miss them.

QUOTE(Crazegamer @ Jun 2 2009, 07:58 PM)
I don't think cheese played l4d
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I finished the whole game in CC.
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QUOTE(secondrate @ Jun 2 2009, 06:02 PM)
^ Er Tomato, what's your point?

I hope L4D doesn't go... well dead after this L4D2 fiasco.

Doesn't it look the same? Smoker also looks the same. Not fun with melee combat liao and daylight where got scary. ohmy.gif
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lol... my point its.. it doesn't looks like a sequel... its more like expansion as they re-used basically everything from the first game (L4D1).

As u know normally a sequel has totally new engine (or enhanced gfx), totally different character models etc. which differentiate from the first game... but this L4D2 does not...

As most agreed that its more like expansion which can be done thru DLC as it supposed to..

Err... understood?.. *paiseh for my england*.

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Racist? How are kfc nuggets racist???  blink.gif
Seriously, please explain coz now I am confused...
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QUOTE(frags @ Jun 2 2009, 06:42 PM)
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Ellis is the scout-like guy.
Coach is the big guy.
I do think you can differentiate between Rochelle and Nic.

Oh, podcast said that Nic is a gambler/conman, and that one of them is a direct opposite of Francis.
Francis hates almost everything, and one of them loves almost everything.

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Ellis looks like scout.Does he sound like one?

All these stuff could have been in a DLC. doh.gif
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oh yeah, why don't come over and said to my face tough guy, bonk!

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I hope the new one will be bundled with Left 4 Dead 1.

Like the Orange Box.
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oh yeah, why don't come over and said to my face tough guy, bonk!

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And his baseball that can stun tank
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QUOTE(itsClois @ Jun 2 2009, 10:29 PM)
And his baseball that can stun tank
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the daylight gameplay in IGN totally = crap and joke.
Nothing new, just added few new imbalance melee one hit ko weapons.
Gonna save my money for sc2, mw2 and maybe D3 too as i will nv buy tat stupid crap L2D

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haha luckly i decided to w8 1st b4 i get l4d. for those who bought l4d, u just got screwed ><!
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QUOTE(shaun5 @ Jun 2 2009, 10:50 PM)
haha luckly i decided to w8 1st b4 i get l4d. for those who bought l4d, u just got screwed ><!
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doesnt the black guy look like rick ross?


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i should say thank you valve!
for now, I can save more money!
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QUOTE(shaun5 @ Jun 2 2009, 10:50 PM)
haha luckly i decided to w8 1st b4 i get l4d. for those who bought l4d, u just got screwed ><!
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really?
i spend about 432+ hours on L4D, for the price of RM 139.


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QUOTE(kitkat @ Jun 3 2009, 12:25 AM)
really?
i spend about 432+ hours on L4D, for the price of RM 139.
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mine 200+ as xfire indicated.... already worth my RM139 i did say...
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* Survivors: Nick, Ellis, Rochelle, and the Coach
    * Missions played in full daylight
    * Witch behaves differently during the day – wanders around like an old homeless woman
    * New weapons: silenced SMG (silencer has no gameplay implications)
    * One new gameplay mode not revealed at this time
    * Stronger narrative thread to connect the campaigns
    * Savannah campaign where “the zombie infection hasn’t hit yet”
    * Instead of a Last Stand-type finale, survivors may have to fight through a hazard-filled highway
    * Director can change the layout of the map
    * New boss infected: The Charger


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why valve doesn't offer this as dlc =.=

tf2 still rock solid..
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did i add u in steam yet?
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Added on June 3, 2009, 2:00 amhttp://steamcommunity.com/groups/L4D2boycott sleep.gif

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http://www.l4d.com/blog/post.php?id=2526



Now Hiring!
May 19, 2009 - Zoid


It's been an interesting week for us here on the Left 4 Dead team. This Monday, for instance, somebody accidentally told Robin Walker he had the power to fire people. In other interesting news, the Left 4 Dead team has all been fired.

Lucky for me, Robin's fired everyone at alphabetical order, and doesn't seem to realize there's a letter after "Y". (Don't tell him.) . Since then it's been pretty quiet. Every hour or so Robin gets on a horse and chases some Greek kid around.

So for now I'm safe, and trying to reassemble the team. Without anyone else to help, I just have this crossword puzzle created by the fine folks at tf2maps.net. So this will have to work as a job application. If you can get this done, that probably means you can spell, which is a good start.


from wat i think, l4d2 cause from this new team~
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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Jun 3 2009, 03:18 AM)
http://www.l4d.com/blog/post.php?id=2526
Now Hiring!
May 19, 2009 - Zoid
It's been an interesting week for us here on the Left 4 Dead team. This Monday, for instance, somebody accidentally told Robin Walker he had the power to fire people. In other interesting news, the Left 4 Dead team has all been fired.

Lucky for me, Robin's fired everyone at alphabetical order, and doesn't seem to realize there's a letter after "Y". (Don't tell him.) . Since then it's been pretty quiet. Every hour or so Robin gets on a horse and chases some Greek kid around.

So for now I'm safe, and trying to reassemble the team. Without anyone else to help, I just have this crossword puzzle created by the fine folks at tf2maps.net. So this will have to work as a job application. If you can get this done, that probably means you can spell, which is a good start.
from wat i think, l4d2 cause from this new team~
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Maybe cause they failed so badly @ L4D 1 that they need a brand new teamfor L4D 2 lol
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u call L4D 1 fail???? u got something wrong? L4D won ALOT of award dude~
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not that the game sucks but the game gets old so fast due to lack of missions and stuff compared to TF2
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This game could compare to Resident evil : outbreak, but fail in ps2. lol

Now this game theme turn into a city, this just remind me to read walking dead comics. Hmmmm love walking dead
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I am still waiting a open world zombie game, where u need to survive a long period of time and surviving like in the comics, such as find gun ammo shop to find weapon, find a prison to barricade, ransacking house or find gasoline to fill up the car and keep on moving forward. If no time, go to a empty safe house and save, leaving ur party behind, but when log in, they are no longer there, then try to meet up new folk who surviving the chaos.

The map must big, bigger that gta.. lol

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that blog post is a continued joke after tf2 blog posts about Robin Walker supposedly fired all Valve employees excluding himself, Stavros, and Zoid.

Do I get promotion for Captain Obvious?

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i like that idea. i like it a lot. sounds like a fun mod for fallout or oblivion wink.gif *stop and thinks about oblivion...* medieval zombies! now thats an idea! *stops and thinks again...* oh wait, damn, they've got those in oblivion already... perhaps fallout then, building some new landmass and populating it to today's standards rather than fallout's timeline standards...could be awesome *continues to think aloud while dragged away in straight jacket*

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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Jun 3 2009, 02:18 AM)
http://www.l4d.com/blog/post.php?id=2526
Now Hiring!
May 19, 2009 - Zoid
It's been an interesting week for us here on the Left 4 Dead team. This Monday, for instance, somebody accidentally told Robin Walker he had the power to fire people. In other interesting news, the Left 4 Dead team has all been fired.

Lucky for me, Robin's fired everyone at alphabetical order, and doesn't seem to realize there's a letter after "Y". (Don't tell him.) . Since then it's been pretty quiet. Every hour or so Robin gets on a horse and chases some Greek kid around.

So for now I'm safe, and trying to reassemble the team. Without anyone else to help, I just have this crossword puzzle created by the fine folks at tf2maps.net. So this will have to work as a job application. If you can get this done, that probably means you can spell, which is a good start.
from wat i think, l4d2 cause from this new team~
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This is a joke or what?

What happen to Valve's high standards?
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God, are you ppl STILL raging over this? I'm as angry as the next guy (As evidenced by my post yesterday), but c'mon...

After my initial outburst and rage, I took the time to ponder and put it all into perspective. This isn't that big of a deal.

To those of you that are raging, "It should be DLC!!!" Why? Its got way more content than ALL the TF2 updates COMBINED. I'm not going to be so arrogant as to assume that all of this could be just appended to the current game engine (The new Director sounds spiffy)

To those of you raging, "I thought it would be like TF2!", Ok fair enough... Valve has spoiled us with the TF2 updates, but c'mon... its the exception rather than the rule. Its not like they DIDN'T provide any updates (However meager you believe the Survival pack is, its still a free update).

To those of you raging, "They're charging for a mod!" Why would you think this is a mod? Because it uses the same engine? Because it has only slight gameplay tweaks? Gears of Wars 2 says "Hello!". Yes, it does appear that Valve are being all money minded, but its not like they're the ONLY ones doing so.

To those of you raging, "But Valve lied to me!". Its not the first time... Remember Half-Life 2...

To those of you raging, "Meh, but L4D wasn't that fun". Way to justify your dismay by ragging on their game. Real classy there. If it really wasn't that fun, this frankly shouldn't be an issue at to you.

Ppl seemed to have suddenly forgotten that Valve make great games (Those of you that say L4D sucks, please go away, because you're obviously not the target audience) but often take forever to release them. At first, I was also all like "OMGWTFBBQ iz dis SHIT?!?!?!?!", but then I realized that "Hey, L4D was FUN and this new content sounds like FUN as well... and I won't have to wait another umpteen years for it"

I know I sound like a complete Valve apologist here, but now that I've thought about it, if priced right or offered properly, I probably will get this as L4D was buckets of fun and I look forward to this.

I've gotten over my entitlement complex, I hope you guys can do the same.

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Whatever Valve is doing with L4D2,it's all against their own philosophy,quality,support and promise.TF2 took 6-7 years to make so that we get that fun game we have today.HL2 EP3 still have little or no sign of it,as Valve wants to have a good ending to HL2.Same for Portal 2.Even CS 1.4 still getting support now.

If they are so money minded and not concern at all on quality,they would have HL3,TF3,Portal 2,CS:S 2 etc all out by now.

Why cant L4D2 be like those games?

Im not surprised at all if the players are pissed with it.The community should be angry about it.

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 3 2009, 08:59 AM)
Whatever Valve is doing with L4D2,it's all against their own philosophy,quality,support and promise.TF2 took 6-7 years to make so that we get that fun game we have today.HL2 EP3 still have little or no sign of it,as Valve wants to have a good ending to HL2.Same for Portal 2.Even CS 1.4 still getting support now.

If they are so money minded and not concern at all on quality,they would have HL3,TF3,Portal 2,CS:S 2 etc all out by now.

Why cant L4D2 be like those games?

Im not surprised at all if the players are pissed with it
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So, since they have all this content ready, they should sit on it for a few years just so that they can maintain their record of "valvetime"? What kind of silly logic is that?
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So, since they have all this content ready, they should sit on it for a few years just so that they can maintain their record of "valvetime"? What kind of silly logic is that?
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I dont see why those content couldnt be a DLC that will be released in a or 2 year's time? L4D1 have so little content and it's a standalone game.People payed a full priced game for it.Unlike TF2 where it comes with Orange Box that offer a solid single player experience.

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 3 2009, 09:08 AM)
I dont see why those content couldnt be a DLC that will be released in a or 2 year's time? L4D1 have so little content and it's a standalone game.People payed a full priced game for it.Unlike TF2 where it comes with Orange Box that offer a solid single player experience.
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Again, they have all this content READY... they don't really have an obligation to stagger its release (Though it would be nice if they did).

The new Director ALONE tells me this couldn't possibly be DLC (It actually alters the map and weather... That's a pretty big jump over the current one). Please find me another example of DLC that has altered the original that much.

Also, to those of you saying "OMG, its daytime, t3h lame!", remember this is Valve we're talking about. They're probably not going to do a simple "Let's just turn the lights on" but will probably think it through (Like how they did with nightfall in the original).
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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Jun 3 2009, 02:51 AM)
u call L4D 1 fail???? u got something wrong? L4D won ALOT of award dude~
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Left 4 Dead 2 ... already? It's a question that Valve's Chet Faliszek has undoubtedly been answering all day. Wary of the negative connotations that come with annual franchises, Faliszek gave us a candid explanation. Put simply, Valve wasn't entirely satisfied with the original game. "Left 4 Dead 1, like I said, had some of those fundamental things that we wanted to change about it, like the changes to the director, which took really long periods of time and a really long period of testing," he said. "And so, those changes fell in line with the long period of time it takes to create characters and everything else. That's why we're doing Left 4 Dead 2, right?"

A more refined game will also set the stage for a longer lifespan, with Faliszek having no qualms calling the EA-published Left 4 Dead 2 a platform, one that Valve sees "lasting for a much longer period of time" via updates and DLC. "We haven't decided anything yet, obviously, but we're looking at it and looking at Left 4 Dead 2 as being that platform to build on." There's a caveat, of course: "I would say definitely there's some stuff I think, like world-wise and location-wise, that we're saying, 'No, this isn't going to fit in this one, let's put this aside and maybe come back and revisit it.'"

Valve hopes to produce more incentive for revisiting Left 4 Dead 2, with a new gameplay mode -- in addition to the unrevealed one shipping with the game -- already being considered. "There's a lot of ideas that we can start playing around with. But we first need to get this first layer down and settle it." We'll be settling the score with the zombie menace on November 17th.


Really?? You sure this time Valve????
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Again, they have all this content READY... they don't really have an obligation to stagger its release (Though it would be nice if they did).

The new Director ALONE tells me this couldn't possibly be DLC (It actually alters the map and weather... That's a pretty big jump over the current one). Please find me another example of DLC that has altered the original that much.

Also, to those of you saying "OMG, its daytime, t3h lame!", remember this is Valve we're talking about. They're probably not going to do a simple "Let's just turn the lights on" but will probably think it through (Like how they did with nightfall in the original).
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Burnout Paradise didnt have any weather effects when it first release to the consoles.Full day and night cycle,plus,weather effects were added in a DLC after a few months.Bikes were also added to the game in another free DLC.

The Director does seem to have heaps of new feature,but releasing a sequel now is not a good idea at all.Considering it's a multiplayer game,as the new sequel will have a big impact on the community and fracture the current community.Besides,the sequel contradicts with Valve's promise to support the game for long term.Where are the L4D1 DLC? There are only 1.

It could be a worthy sequel if they actually put more time in it by delaying it for another 1-2 years,as more features are added as time goes by to the sequel and more time to polish it.There is nothing to do with the Valvetime or Blizzard's "When It's Done" ™.It's just that,from past experience,if a devs rush out a sequel too fast,the sequel is gonna be shit.Whether it's full of bugs,or not enough new features.Games are getting more and more complicated these days,while the expectations from gamers are getting higher,i really dont see why L4D2 shouldnt be delayed as time is needed to make a worthy sequel.I rather see the new Director and heaps of new features in L4D2 than what is in the current one.The current L4d2 sound like a half assed sequel to me.

This is no different than CoD is releasing every year.Thank gawd,Infinity Ward renamed the sequel of CoD4.

I didnt complain when SC2 or D3 took about 10 years to release. Good games take time to make.Crap games come out every year.L4D is a good game.If they keep the community busy with a few DLC,while develop L4D2 for a longer period.It would be a win win situation for the community and Valve.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 3 2009, 09:41 AM)
Burnout Paradise didnt have any weather effects when it first release to the consoles.Full day and night cycle,plus,weather effects were added in a DLC after a few months.Bikes were also added to the game in another free DLC.
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Yes, Burnout Paradise is one of the shining examples of DLC done right, but c'mon... Its not much different. The weather and day/night cycles are pretty shallow changes (Rain doesn't actually affect your handling or visibility THAT much) and the bikes are very tacked on (Just solo races and nothing more).

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 3 2009, 09:41 AM)
The Director does seem to have heaps of new feature,but releasing a sequel now is not a good idea at all.Considering it's a multiplayer game,as  the new sequel will have a big impact on the community and fracture the current community.Besides,the sequel contradicts with Valve's promise to support the game for long term.Where are the L4D1 DLC? There are only 1.
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Valve breaks promise... Sorry to disappoint you dude, but that's happened before, so no need to act all outraged anymore. At the end of the day they're a business and they need to make money. If you don't approve of this sequel, don't buy it. Trying to make a corporation feel guilty is like trying to make a bear feel guilty for mauling you.

As for DLC, its actually in line with the DLC release schedule for TF2 when it came out.


QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 3 2009, 09:41 AM)
It could be a worthy sequel if they actually put more time in it by delaying it for another 1-2 years,as more features are added as time goes by to the sequel and more time to polish it.There is nothing to do with the Valvetime or Blizzard's "When It's Done" ™.It's just that,from past experience,if a devs rush out a sequel too fast,the sequel is gonna be shit.Whether it's full of bugs,or not enough new features.Games are getting more and more complicated these days,while the expectations from gamers are getting higher,i really dont see why L4D2 shouldnt be delayed as time is needed to make a worthy sequel.I rather see the new Director and heaps of new features in L4D2 than what is in the current one.The current L4d2 sound like a half assed sequel to me.
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So you're assuming that since its this soon, it MUST be buggy and unfinished.

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 3 2009, 09:41 AM)
This is no different than CoD is releasing every year.Thank gawd,Infinity Ward renamed the sequel of CoD4.
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Yes, because renaming it makes it all better... So if this was called "Right 2 Live: Not L4D 2", you'd be first in line to get it?

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 3 2009, 09:41 AM)
If they keep the community busy with a few DLC,while develop L4D2 for a longer period.It would be a win win situation for the community and Valve.
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How is this a win-win situation actually? That just means the COMMUNITY wins.

Their reasoning behind TF2's free updates is that the free weekends often result in a sales surge and the continued life of the community promotes sales over a long period of time. This does NOT mean the same will apply for other games. Who's to say L4D managed to do the same with the Survival pack patch? Maybe it was so lackluster and Valve are forced to do this? Nobody knows really. It is incredibly daft to assume that since TF2 did it and succeeded, therefore EVERYTHING else should succeed as well.
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i dont think L4D sux. but it feels a bit less in a sense. It is hard to describe. the game gets really boring after a while. champagne, versus, survival...they're all the same. So I thought ok, nevermind, it is valve, they could release a new update or two to spice up the game. then pooof...L4D 2 we have to pay. I don't see any company that do this so fast within a year.
Even the money minded EA with their battlefield series took some more time.


the cake is a lie.


oh yeah...i am not really sad bout it. just a bit disappointed. i have the rights not to buy. so yeah. yawn.gif

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Uhh, did they release info about versus mode? Like how you can use the Charger now? No more 2 hunters?
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jun 3 2009, 09:59 AM)
i dont think L4D sux. but it feels a bit less in a sense. It is hard to describe. the game gets really boring after a while. champagne, versus, survival...they're all the same. So I thought ok, nevermind, it is valve, they could release a new update or two to spice up the game. then pooof...L4D 2 we have to pay. I don't see any company that do this so fast within a year.
Even the money minded EA with their battlefield series took some more time.
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after picking up my hair on the floor, i think that valve did this unorthodox move is because l4d popularity is far greater than TF2. Dont get me wrong TF2 is awesome, but gritty zombie game is much more easier to garner fans from the general masses. I mean you rarely see ppl play any other games other than dota/cod4 in cybercafe. This is even truer on the console side, where TF2 is over shadowed by l4d.

Therefore, it would be..."uneconomical" for Valve to release free updates for an ultra-popular game as they knew the next l4d content they release could sell. As for TF2, the updates are used to slowly grow the steady fan base. Valve didnt charge for tf2 updates because valve is taking their sweet time doing it, releasing updates little by little. But l4d is insanely popular, so valve jumps straight to the next phase, sequel. Again back to the console world, it is completely normal to get a game updated yearly.

From another side of view the original l4d may have too many unexpanded ideas and unexpected flaws, valve realize the changes to be made are too great for free updates. So they decided to overhaul the whole game.


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*fingers crossed*

Owners of L4D will enjoy a 50% discount on the purchase of L4D2
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What ? They gonna release a third sequel to Narbacular Drop 2 ? I feel more rage than L4D2 announcement, man, RAAAAAAGE !!!


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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jun 3 2009, 10:09 AM)
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they say so such thing as 50% diskaunt~
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Call of Duty, Guitar Hero, and ALL the sports franchises say hello!
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i dont know sport games have that much online MP players as compared to FPSs or RTS or MMORPG. (xfire stats for example).
call of duty, first itself it is a complete game with complete single player experience with full story.
I paid a full game price for a full game. so it is a fair trade.
and I never played the treyach version so CoD for me is always 2 years. which is good. The online experience is top notch and I don't feel it needs anymore DLC to spice the experience (exclude patch fix), other than a new release after things began to cool down. The timing is perfect.

L4D is a unique one. A full price for 4 online maps, limited gameplay and no proper SP mode. Unless people call that playing the game offline with bots = SP mode. It is the same shit with the online counterpart. If it was by other company, I won't buy it. But Because I thought/assume valve would continue updating the game to provide richer experience, I was wrong.

so yeah, my respect for the company has dropped. when they could do it once, who knows they wont do it the second time? since the reviewers, presses, gamers are lapping all over and shaking their tails. yeah, more money to come.
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jun 3 2009, 10:19 AM)
i dont know sport games have that much online MP players as compared to FPSs or RTS or MMORPG. (xfire stats for example).
call of duty, first itself it is a complete game with complete single player experience with full story.
I paid a full game price for a full game. so it is a fair trade.
and I never played the treyach version so CoD for me is always 2 years. which is good. The online experience is top notch and I don't feel it needs anymore DLC to spice the experience (exclude patch fix), other than a new release after things began to cool down. The timing is perfect.
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jun 3 2009, 10:19 AM)
L4D is a unique one. A full price for 4 online maps, limited gameplay and no proper SP mode. Unless people call that playing the game offline with bots = SP mode. It is the same shit with the online counterpart. If it was by other company, I won't buy it. But Because I thought/assume valve would continue updating the game to provide richer experience, I was wrong.
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That's just semantics.
4 maps (Campaigns != maps)
Limited gameplay (Yes, because everything else is UNLIMITED)
No proper SP mode (Arguably, this is on the same level as SP games that integrate coop, because that's what its supposed to be)

I'm not trying to say you're wrong or anything, just saying its moot since what you want and what everyone else wants are different.
Demigod came with even less content than L4D and nobody's making a fuss about it. The original Battlefield games are also on the same level.

QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jun 3 2009, 10:19 AM)
so yeah, my respect for the company has dropped. when they could do it once, who knows they wont do it the second time? since the reviewers, presses, gamers are lapping all over and shaking their tails. yeah, more money to come.
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Gamers shouldn't treat Valve any different than other business entities. It would be foolish to do so. Yes, they are more often than not generous. But at the end of the day, they're still a business out to make money.
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well, if they want to make money out of it, they should make it into a purchasable dlc.

then i can easily switch between l4d1 and l4d campaigns and characters easily.

in my opinion:
new campaigns = new work for concept artist and 3d modelers
new character models = new work for concept artist and 3d modelers
new voice acting = new work for voice actors

but to turn off l4d1 in order to play the new things in l4d2 is ... inconvenient. doh.gif:
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But at the end of the day, they're still a business out to make money.
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the problem is valve lied to his customers. Valve lied to all of us that he will keep the game updated like TF2. Valve always use the "free content updates" slogan to promote l4d, and which is this promise that drive ppl to believe that l4d will get free update instead of paid ones. This "change of plan" thing basically violate the trust of his customers hence the RAAAGE right now. Valve are still a business, and they do business by lying to their customers.

I have no problem with new releases, but valve shouldnt flat out lied to l4d fans. The timing is really off for l4d2 as fans are still waiting for free dlc.
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are we assuming that L4D will be updated like TF2 or did they mention about it?
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erm, if l4d2 is going to contain so many new things, why should it be free? sweat.gif

fallout 3 dlc are not free.
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QUOTE(Abyssio @ Jun 3 2009, 11:47 AM)
the problem is valve lied to his customers. Valve lied to all of us that he will keep the game updated like TF2. Valve always use the "free content updates" slogan to promote l4d, and which is this promise that drive ppl to believe that l4d will get free update instead of paid ones. This "change of plan" thing basically violate the trust of his customers hence the RAAAGE right now. Valve are still a business, and they do business by lying to their customers.

I have no problem with new releases, but valve shouldnt flat out lied to l4d fans. The timing is really off for l4d2 as fans are still waiting for free dlc.
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are we assuming that L4D will be updated like TF2 or did they mention about it?
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Technically, they haven't renege on that promise as L4D has gotten a free updates (Albeit its only one major one at the moment)

Just because a company says it'll provide free updates, doesn't mean they'll provide it FOREVER (Which is what everyone is assuming)

And Valve HAVE lied to us before. They promised Half-Life 2 a full year earlier than when it was released.
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I just got the game in early may while steam have it on sale. From that moment on i like the game 100%. just one downside is that the limited campaign (only 4 campaign / map). But what is nice about this game is not the campaign but rather who you are playing with. i remember playing with some taiwanese on advance level, and one of the guy (guess is newbie), you can hear his scary voice over the mic when he is falling behind..... hahaha tongue.gif .that was fun and keep me laughing. this is how i remembering the game. If L4D2 can keep the same triller and funs going...i definitely will buy it (of course i am not expecting it to be selling at price more than L4D) thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 3 2009, 11:57 AM)
Technically, they haven't renege on that promise as L4D has gotten a free updates (Albeit its only one major one at the moment)

Just because a company says it'll provide free updates, doesn't mean they'll provide it FOREVER (Which is what everyone is assuming)

And Valve HAVE lied to us before. They promised Half-Life 2 a full year earlier than when it was released.
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That was because the source code leaked out and Valve had to redo the source code....causing a one year delay
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i am not ignoring the COD franchise. i am ignoring the non-original developer! lol...if it is by infinity wards, its fine for me. tongue.gif becuase i do not think their release has anything less. their games are rock solid. i feel empty about L4D. could be just me and a few.

yeah everyone has their point of view. what i am trying to say is, valve converted from being different to become the same as the rest. they lose customers like me, or maybe gained some new ones. who knows. but for sure, my perspective has changed. i dont mind the first lie as pushing back the release date isn't necessary a bad thing. Nobody wants a buggy game.


btw, i think demigod sales sucked. not even come close as 1/1000 of L4D sales eh? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 3 2009, 11:57 AM)
Technically, they haven't renege on that promise as L4D has gotten a free updates (Albeit its only one major one at the moment)

Just because a company says it'll provide free updates, doesn't mean they'll provide it FOREVER (Which is what everyone is assuming)

And Valve HAVE lied to us before. They promised Half-Life 2 a full year earlier than when it was released.
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Well it is hard to believe a game could get updated after it's sequel came out,valve should clarify this so valve dont turn out to be an utter liar. But in a business point of view, why waste resources updating an existing game when you are work on a sequel? Giving out updates only encourage players to stay in the original game, and completely defeat the purpose of promoting the sequel.

Oh thx radkiller for the fact. The nature of game delay lie and free content lie is completely opposite. Delaying game releases only increases the production cost, while the free content slogan is a lie to promote a game thats going to get a sequel a year later.
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QUOTE(radkliler @ Jun 3 2009, 12:14 PM)
That was because the source code leaked out and Valve had to redo the source code....causing a one year delay
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Rubbish. Think about what you just said. The source code (For a non-multiplayer game I might add) was leaked and required the game to be delayed for a YEAR, not months.... a year. If it were any other developer, their publisher's would probably yell "GTFO" at them for it.

The game was far from complete when they showed it at E3 2006. Hell, even the stuff they promised in that E3 never actually made it into the game (I still remember this humourous video showing how you can't block a soldier from opening a door).

Valve aren't the gods of gaming. They're not perfect. There's no point in taking everything they said as gospel.
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gonna start saving now n buy it when they release it brows.gif
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I hope you have fun. I assume you don't have L4D 1? shakehead.gif

As for me, I'm migrating to MW2 in November and hopefully TF2 sticks though with my luck, a week from now, Valve will be screaming TF3 mega_shok.gif.

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I hope you have fun. I assume you don't have L4D 1?  shakehead.gif

As for me, I'm migrating to MW2 in November and hopefully TF2 sticks though with my luck, a week from now, Valve will be screaming TF3 mega_shok.gif.
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 3 2009, 01:52 PM)
Rubbish. Think about what you just said. The source code (For a non-multiplayer game I might add) was leaked and required the game to be delayed for a YEAR, not months.... a year. If it were any other developer, their publisher's would probably yell "GTFO" at them for it.

The game was far from complete when they showed it at E3 2006. Hell, even the stuff they promised in that E3 never actually made it into the game (I still remember this humourous video showing how you can't block a soldier from opening a door).

Valve aren't the gods of gaming. They're not perfect. There's no point in taking everything they said as gospel.
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QUOTE(Fatimus @ Jun 3 2009, 02:46 PM)
And I will never forgive them for what they done to Vampire The Masquerade : Bloodline, even though the game came out buggy anyway.
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eh. but vampire the masquerade bloodlines was developed by now defunct company troika games wor.

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QUOTE(Fatimus @ Jun 3 2009, 02:46 PM)
And I will never forgive them for what they done to Vampire The Masquerade : Bloodline, even though the game came out buggy anyway.
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Erm, as Deimos has said, this wasn't made by Valve... They merely outsourced the engine. So, yes misdirected hatred much here.
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that blog post is a continued joke after tf2 blog posts about Robin Walker supposedly fired all Valve employees excluding himself, Stavros, and Zoid.

Do I get promotion for Captain Obvious?
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No promotion for u, but u can promo my new extra safely belt, cost only $9.99, it could use as a weapon to whip people u dont like, also it has a decent range, even in melee range u could whip it up front. Wait until next year i announce another new safely belt, i named it safely belt 2! it particularity the same thing but more color and more wider. LOOOL

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They gave us 3 Blacks 1 White in part two and the opposite number for Game one.


inb4racist
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Isn't it two blacks and 2 whites?
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Who cares, now no more pretty girls like Zoey in L4D2. Sien. The witch might be better than the girl in L4D2.
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QUOTE(syNcv9 @ Jun 3 2009, 05:26 PM)
Who cares, now no more pretty girls like Zoey in L4D2. Sien. The witch might be better than the girl in L4D2.
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Wait, You're playing L4D because of a pretty 'chick' Zoey?
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QUOTE(TehWateva @ Jun 3 2009, 05:45 PM)
Wait, You're playing L4D because of a pretty 'chick' Zoey?
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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Jun 3 2009, 05:51 PM)
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 3 2009, 05:53 PM)
I think you mean racism in this context.
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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Jun 3 2009, 05:55 PM)
Nope im just pointing x-blades
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Yes, I know... I meant that in this case, SyncV9 was complaining that the chick is now black instead of white and hence making the game not worth caring for, followed by tehWateva's retort, which lead to.................


Ah screw it... BOOBIES!
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 3 2009, 05:59 PM)
Yes, I know... I meant that in this case, SyncV9 was complaining that the chick is now black instead of white and hence making the game not worth caring for, followed by tehWateva's retort, which lead to.................
Ah screw it... BOOBIES!
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 3 2009, 05:59 PM)
Yes, I know... I meant that in this case, SyncV9 was complaining that the chick is now black instead of white and hence making the game not worth caring for, followed by tehWateva's retort, which lead to.................
Ah screw it... BOOBIES!
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black or white, they still have it, as for the size.....
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QUOTE(king99 @ Jun 3 2009, 06:01 PM)
WHERE"S THE ASIAN CHICK !
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THIS!.

10kthxbai tongue.gif

honestly though, zoey's not THAT hot, especially when factoring her acne issues in. i mean, JUST because there's a zombapocalypse going on doesnt mean you should stop taking care of your face. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(strife_personified @ Jun 3 2009, 07:13 PM)
THIS!.

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honestly though, zoey's not THAT hot, especially when factoring her acne issues in. i mean, JUST because there's a zombapocalypse going on doesnt mean you should stop taking care of your face. tongue.gif
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I think they're freckles.

Women aside, I'm curious as to whether the different characters will have varying gameplay mechanics, considering the massive differences in physique for all of them compared to the first game.
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 3 2009, 07:16 PM)
I think they're freckles.

Women aside, I'm curious as to whether the different characters will have varying gameplay mechanics, considering the massive differences in physique for all of them compared to the first game.
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Doug Lombardi: This is a full sequel.

Shack: So full price?

Doug Lombardi: Yeah. At the end of the day, this is going to be a bigger game than Left 4 Dead. It's five campaigns versus four, all five are playable in Versus mode, Survival mode out of the box, the new multiplayer game mode. Plus over 20 new weapons and items. It's a full sequel.

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http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1138

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Thanks for the interview link.

Inb4someonesaidweshouldburnthem.

Edit: Chet Faliszek doesn't watch Survivor.

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 3 2009, 07:16 PM)
I think they're freckles.

Women aside, I'm curious as to whether the different characters will have varying gameplay mechanics, considering the massive differences in physique for all of them compared to the first game.
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actually i was referring to the zit like thing on her forehead tongue.gif

having read the interview, i noticed one thing which i hope does not lead l4d2 to the same pit l4d1 is in. quote: huge technical changes. thats one of the failings i felt from l4d, the fact that after a while, all it seems like is a tech demo. it displays awesome technology, but unless you have a dedicated gaming crew, friends you can always have fun with, it is going to get old, fast. so lets hope these "technical" changes aren't all there is to l4d2.

on a side note, l4d20 sounds like a fun name tongue.gif imagine if we had a l4d styled D&D campaign, this is definitely what it should be called, to poke fun at the naming scheme tongue.gif

edit: and yes, we should still burn valve anyways. or at least the Turtle Rock studios portion. on second thought, we should burn them all anyways, just for that "used toaster" analogy they have about selling your used games. check their knowledge base article on Gifting Games to see what i mean.

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basically the first l4d was made to be their test product. took players feedback and suggestions, and use them to make a sequel. instead of making adjustments through their steam client (one of the big reasons for having steam) as promised, they're gonna charge us for it.
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So I was a guinea pig against my will? =/ Why Valve?

Zoey has some... zit or injury on her forehead. tongue.gif. It's strange.
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basically the first l4d was made to be their test product. took players feedback and suggestions, and use them to make a sequel. instead of making adjustments through their steam client (one of the big reasons for having steam) as promised, they're gonna charge us for it.
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yeap, in a way were are just beta tester for them. paid 1 that is laugh.gif

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Then they shouldn't have advertise ohh we are going to support this game with more characters, more maps, more bling bling etc and in the end they took all those improvements and made L4D2 instead...

I actually wouldn't have mind L4D 2 if the 1st one had more contents or DLC....But, see where we are now

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Mass Effect also like that. They said they were going to released lots of DLC. Only one came out, like L4D (and it's not even a dlc actually), and then they went to sequel, like L4D.

Only good thing is ME2 will come out 2 years and some months after ME1. L4D2 is coming out a year and a day after L4D1.
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dude....L4D is a multiplayer game...Mass effect is a single player RPG....u cant compare the 2....Mass Effect has story and L4D dont even have a proper story....of course if they wanna expand the story they got to make a sequel which is Mass Effect 2 doh.gif

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^ I meant the dlc part bro. Of course the story has to go on. If not, I'll be lagi pissed.
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i think left4dead need the DLC much more than any other game......its too short and we are paying full price...and not even a trailer for half life 2 episode 3 wtf valve!
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Well come to think of all the new stuff they're gonna put in, I'm gonna stop my rage and buy it when it comes out.
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i hope its lower than 50 bucks
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20 weapons? lol lets see that whistling.gif
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20 weapons? lol lets see that  whistling.gif
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how kewl is that rolleyes.gif
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The Scout looking guy,really sound like a TF2 Scout.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-left-4-dead/50351

Maybe the 20 weapons includes his Baseball Bat and Ball too. whistling.gif

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Adding new weapons, skins, maps and that is the reason I should pay again ? Then L4D 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 can release all at once in 2010. Steam, I want my money back, big software pirate.

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Jun 3 2009, 11:40 PM)
Adding new weapons, skins, maps and that is the reason I should pay again ? Then L4D 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 can release all at once in 2010. Steam, I want my money back, big software pirate.
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20 new weapons. handgun = one, double hand gun = two, fire bullet hand gun = three. wahahahhaa....20 new weapons my arse.
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Probably the rest household objects. Frying pan, pipe, crowbar (ohmy.gif), etc.
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Of all weapons, why a frying pan?

Give them a freaking CROWBAR like Freeman in HL.
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QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Jun 4 2009, 01:44 AM)
Of all weapons, why a frying pan?

Give them a freaking CROWBAR like Freeman in HL.
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from wut i see in the gameplay vid the fire bullet is just for 1 clip. after that u reload back to the normal bullet
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Of all weapons, why a frying pan?

Give them a freaking CROWBAR like Freeman in HL.
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Since this game got melee. is it gonna be more KF style? erhm u cant hit with right click anymore, and to hit u gotta press melee button to switch to melee weapon?
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I wonder if the L4D community will be split in two. That can't be good right?

Ardi I think the melee weapon is counted as your primary weapon. So you have melee weapon, pistol, explosive, medkit and pills? Not sure yet though.

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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Jun 4 2009, 04:08 AM)
from wut i see in the gameplay vid the fire bullet is just for 1 clip. after that u reload back to the normal bullet
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There's a few clips. After that you can still get more of the fire ammo.
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QUOTE(VonDrake @ Jun 4 2009, 10:17 AM)
Since this game got melee. is it gonna be more KF style? erhm u cant hit with right click anymore, and to hit u gotta press melee button to switch to melee weapon?
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tongue.gif.

I wonder if the L4D community will be split in two. That can't be good right?

Ardi I think the melee weapon is counted as your primary weapon. So you have melee weapon, pistol, explosive, medkit and pills? Not sure yet though.
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Yes, that's the biggest concern (And in my opinion the only one worth listening to) with the release of L4D2.

Also, I'm guessing they'll replace the pistols with the melee weapon. You'll still have the shove of course, but no unlimited ammo backup weapon.
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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Jun 4 2009, 10:25 AM)
There's a few clips. After that you can still get more of the fire ammo.
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 4 2009, 10:25 AM)
Yes, that's the biggest concern (And in my opinion the only one worth listening to) with the release of L4D2.

Also, I'm guessing they'll replace the pistols with the melee weapon. You'll still have the shove of course, but no unlimited ammo backup weapon.
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Nope....u're swaping ur main weapons for the melee weapons
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QUOTE(radkliler @ Jun 4 2009, 10:34 AM)
Nope....u're swaping ur main weapons for the melee weapons
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QUOTE(radkliler @ Jun 4 2009, 10:34 AM)
Nope....u're swaping ur main weapons for the melee weapons
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That doesnt seem like a good idea.
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 4 2009, 10:35 AM)
Wow, that's even better actually. Cue the whiners!
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 4 2009, 10:37 AM)
That doesnt seem like a good idea.
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Hey...its not my idea....it's Valve's

As for whiners...there is a mountain pile at the Steam forums...which ranges from sensible arguments to flatout stupid statements...I lol-ed
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 4 2009, 10:37 AM)
That doesnt seem like a good idea.
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Well if they make the melee weapons as deadly as they are in Dead Rising (Sans the decay) it'll be a pretty good tradeoff actually.
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Hey...its not my idea....it's Valve's

As for whiners...there is a mountain pile at the Steam forums...which ranges from sensible arguments to flatout stupid statements...I lol-ed
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I lol-ed too.

Seems like a lot of people are unhappy with it.


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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 4 2009, 10:41 AM)
Well if they make the melee weapons as deadly as they are in Dead Rising (Sans the decay) it'll be a pretty good tradeoff actually.
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Yeah,it still depends on how is the implementation.

What i see now,not a good idea.

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 4 2009, 10:37 AM)
That doesnt seem like a good idea.
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its good actually, if the melee punch still available after using a melee weapon. punch ~ chop
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QUOTE(VonDrake @ Jun 4 2009, 10:17 AM)
Since this game got melee. is it gonna be more KF style? erhm u cant hit with right click anymore, and to hit u gotta press melee button to switch to melee weapon?
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from one video i saw the axe got 2 melee styles, one is the chopping and the other is knocking with the axe handle. I guess the knocking is right click and chopping left click.
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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Jun 4 2009, 10:43 AM)
its good actually, if the melee punch still available after using a melee weapon. punch ~ chop
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I'm hoping they make it have an alternate attack or something. For instance if using the chainsaw, "shoving" would cause you to spin 360 for moar damage.

Also, I'm hoping the new melee weapons have FF on for good measure laugh.gif
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its good actually, if the melee punch still available after using a melee weapon. punch ~ chop
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well...u cant really blame the valve...becuz they wan to earn $$...u cant make them stay at 1 game for so long.....unless is monthly pay like WOW...
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Chainsaw, etc... have lower chances lol.
Raeson is Killing Floor have those. That's why u see no such chainsaw nor flamethrower available YET.

Who noes, Valve are everything they are. doh.gif
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Jun 4 2009, 01:47 PM)
Chainsaw, etc... have lower chances lol.
Raeson is Killing Floor have those. That's why u see no such chainsaw nor flamethrower available YET.

Who noes, Valve are everything they are. doh.gif
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I'm not really sure what the hell you just typed, but are you insinuating that Valve is ripping of Killing Floor?
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 4 2009, 10:41 AM)
Well if they make the melee weapons as deadly as they are in Dead Rising (Sans the decay) it'll be a pretty good tradeoff actually.
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Can i have the lawnmower plz! laugh.gif
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eh.

how come chain saw is infinite ammo?

it powered by a nuclear fuel cell is it?

need gasoline to power the chain saw kan?
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How does that chainsaw on the Lancer (Gears of War assault rifle) work ar?

Lol, nuclear fuel cell laugh.gif . Too much Fallout 3 la you.

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i want that geow chainsaw on l4d2, heck, just put fenix in there then i buy tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Jun 4 2009, 02:26 PM)
eh.

how come chain saw is infinite ammo?

it powered by a nuclear fuel cell is it?

need gasoline to power the chain saw kan?
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Well there are electric chainsaws now apparently. Also, the game takes place in the space of an hour... Most chainsaws can last a little longer than that.
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QUOTE(secondrate @ Jun 4 2009, 02:31 PM)
How does that chainsaw on the Lancer (Gears of War assault rifle) work ar?

Lol, nuclear fuel cell  laugh.gif . Too much Fallout 3 la you.
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lol i never thought about fallout 3. i was thinking about the t-800 nuclear power cell unit.

then i look at the words

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 4 2009, 02:42 PM)
Well there are electric chainsaws now apparently. Also, the game takes place in the space of an hour... Most chainsaws can last a little longer than that.
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ah. okay. that explains it. thanks!

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Jun 4 2009, 02:26 PM)
eh.

how come chain saw is infinite ammo?

it powered by a nuclear fuel cell is it?

need gasoline to power the chain saw kan?
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its solar powered since its daytime
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add more characters, unlockables, weapons and achievements to the original Left 4 Dead.

L4D becomes like TF2 biggrin.gif
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We'll see how it goes.

The more i read,the more i think some of the new tech just cant be a DLC.Especially the Director 2.0 part.

They still need more content though.

I think L4D2 is more like a franchise reboot in a sequel form.
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perhaps l4d2 has l4d1 included it in?

bloody troublesome leh if i need to close l4d2 before i can start l4d1 to play as francis bill joey nigga in no mercy death toll dead flight blood harvest. doh.gif:
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Deja vu...i tell you man deja vu...i knew i seen this kind of shit before somewhere and now i finally able to recall: in unreal tournament 2003 and unreal tournament 2004.

At least in unreal 2004 Epic gave discount to unreal 2003 customer sad.gif

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QUOTE(Abyssio @ Jun 4 2009, 05:38 PM)
Deja vu...i tell you man deja vu...i knew i seen this kind of shit before somewhere and now i finally able to recall: in unreal tournament 2003 and unreal tournament 2004.

At least in unreal 2004 Epic gave discount to unreal 2003 customer  sad.gif

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Oh c'mon its NOT that irregular.

Call of Duty does it
Gears of War so far have done it
The first 2 Fallout games came out within a year of each other
So did Need for Speed at one point


While this may be a first by Valve (OMG 2 games in the space of a year!), its certainly NOT a first for the industry. Hence the reason many of the complaints here are moot:
Sequel not using new engine? Done before (Gears of War, God of War)
Content should be free? Done since time immemorial
Content that can be patched in? Ditto above.

Please end this nerdrage streak.
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fallout 1 and fallout 2 lol.

fallout 1 = 1997
fallout 2 = 1998

lol at that time, perhaps no rasa, because not buying and playing original copy. sweat.gif doh.gif:


Added on June 4, 2009, 6:01 pmconclusion:

money makes ppl rage for all the wrong reasons. laugh.gif

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laugh.gif Somehow they managed to make Fallout 2 as good as Fallout 1. I guess with isometric graphics they can focus more on the good stuff rather than eye candy.
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QUOTE(Abyssio @ Jun 4 2009, 05:38 PM)
Deja vu...i tell you man deja vu...i knew i seen this kind of shit before somewhere and now i finally able to recall: in unreal tournament 2003 and unreal tournament 2004.

At least in unreal 2004 Epic gave discount to unreal 2003 customer  sad.gif

Edit: posting error
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If it's done like UT2003 and UT2004,i dont mind as UT2004 is a huge improvement over UT2003.

On the other hand,if it's like NFS,fcuk you Valve.

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 4 2009, 05:45 PM)
Oh c'mon its NOT that irregular.

Call of Duty does it
Gears of War so far have done it
The first 2 Fallout games came out within a year of each other
So did Need for Speed at one point
While this may be a first by Valve (OMG 2 games in the space of a year!), its certainly NOT a first for the industry. Hence the reason many of the complaints here are moot:
Sequel not using new engine? Done before (Gears of War, God of War)
Content should be free? Done since time immemorial
Content that can be patched in? Ditto above.

Please end this nerdrage streak.
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Well.. imo can't really compared to those games u mentioned as most of them has proper singleplayer game (especially those with cool cinematics), and has added bonus with multiplayer.

Wherelse L4D its mainly coop multiplayer which its rare especially for pc gamers.

Even in the beginning ppl complained and hesitated to get L4D all due too little content for a full priced game.

Imo, if it cost similar to TF2 rm90 comparing to L4D rm138, ppl will say otherwise...

Oh well, just hope they add more contents before L4D2 out and it will be great if both games can be combined rather than switch games.

Cheers smile.gif

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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ Jun 4 2009, 06:20 PM)

Imo, if it cost similar to TF2 rm90 comparing to L4D rm138, ppl will say otherwise...

Oh well, just hope they add more contents before L4D2 out and it will be great if both games can be combined rather than switch games.

Cheers smile.gif
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Or even better....offer significant discount for L4D 1 owners. Then it wouldn't be so bad tongue.gif
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 4 2009, 05:45 PM)
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im not so sure about the fans of Call of duty/gears of war/fallout but from my personal experience the UT community were indeed upset and complaint about ut2003 being lack of contents. So Epic worked on ut2004 and caused a massive uproar in the ut community like what we seen here in l4d. At the end of the day Epic decided to compensate the fans by generously giving discount.
But if the fans of Call of duty/gears of war/fallout are really complaining like what we are seeing in l4d ( i hope it wasnt), then i really doh.gif


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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Jun 4 2009, 06:00 PM)
yahor.

fallout 1 and fallout 2 lol.

fallout 1 = 1997
fallout 2 = 1998

lol at that time, perhaps no rasa, because not buying and playing original copy. sweat.gif doh.gif:


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money makes ppl rage for all the wrong reasons. laugh.gif
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Like I said, its because everyone has been spoiled by Valve because of TF2.

QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ Jun 4 2009, 06:20 PM)
Well.. imo can't really compared to those games u mentioned as most of them has proper singleplayer game (especially those with cool cinematics), and has added bonus with multiplayer.

Wherelse L4D its mainly coop multiplayer which its rare especially for pc gamers.

Even in the beginning ppl complained and hesitated to get L4D all due too little content for a full priced game.

Imo, if it cost similar to TF2 rm90 comparing to L4D rm138, ppl will say otherwise...

Oh well, just hope they add more contents before L4D2 out and it will be great if both games can be combined rather than switch games.

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Well all the Battlefield games were sold at a premium price with practically no proper single player content.

The thing is, for a multiplayer only game, you gauge the cost of it based on how many hours of enjoyment you had. I'm not going to dispute that TF2 has insane value based on its longevity, but really, its not fair to compare the two as they should be judged on their own merits.

But the thing is, does this announcement nullify all those hours of enjoyment in L4D? Unless of course you didn't like L4D, whereby this announcement shouldn't affect you at all.

QUOTE(Abyssio @ Jun 4 2009, 06:57 PM)
im not so sure about the fans of Call of duty/gears of war/fallout but from my personal experience the UT community were indeed upset and complaint about ut2003 being lack of contents. So Epic worked on ut2004 and caused a massive uproar in the ut community like what we seen here in l4d. At the end of the day Epic decided to compensate the fans by generously giving discount.
But if the fans of Call of duty/gears of war/fallout are really complaining like what we are seeing in l4d ( i hope it wasnt), then i really  doh.gif
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I'm pretty sure the fans (I was one of them) at the time were THRILLED instead of upset with the announcement of UT2004. UT2003 was severely incomplete and broke many of the things that made UT fun. Hell, much gripes was posted on the intarwubs when it was delayed.


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Trust us a little bit

Hmmm, I'm extremely curious as to how they're going to "keep the community" together. That's my only concern really.
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Added on June 4, 2009, 9:24 pmbtw, same trick don't work twice, valve.

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Imo, if it cost similar to TF2 rm90 comparing to L4D rm138, ppl will say otherwise...

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I think the main problem is the price.L4D was charged as a full priced game,which is RM139,while the content it has is more or less as much as TF2.TF2 was priced lower and it's is part of Orange Box.People dont feel so ripoff,whether they buy TF2 standalone or from Orange Box as they have HL2 and Portal to mess around.

Then,out of no where and less than a year,Valve announced L4D2.Gamers still have to pay full price for a updated version of the game,een though it has a lot of new features.If Valve give a discount for existing L4D owners,or sell the game at lower price,i think people wont complain so much.

This isnt much different than Fifa,NFS or Madden release every year.
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EA games is okay by my book, although some people say they are money grabber but still they do release some good game, such as Dead Space and Mirror edge.

As for valve, their selling point is innovation, but now many community found it odd when valve releasing l4d2, however many of jack sparrow friends are happy about it. jack mates +1, the people 0

Since l4dead got old really fast when finish playing the campaign mode and repeating vs mode, i think this game could entertain me 2 months at least, unlike tf2 where it could last me for years. I think for now, ,i gonna raise my "crossed sword skull" black flag.
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you make chocolate cake, and you make cheesecake...then you hope to combine both become mooncake. that's what they are sayin.

i am not spoilt by TF2 i rarely play it too. i feel empty about L4D. After the game, i feel like "just like that?" kinda thingy. like h@h@ said, the hours of enjoyment in L4D thing. For me, is not enough yet. I dont feel enough. Something is missing. But now...poof. L4D2 in the face. Nah, chew something out of this sequel...which was suppose to be in L4D 1.

anyways, we shall see. whether or not valve shall tremble... (too much D3)... laugh.gif


oh, +1 to plant. I am with you on this one.

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EA games is okay by my book, although some people say they are money grabber but still they do release some good game, such as Dead Space and Mirror edge.

As for valve, their selling point is innovation, but now many community found it odd when valve releasing l4d2, however many of jack sparrow friends are happy about it. jack mates +1, the people 0

Since l4dead got old really fast when finish playing the campaign mode and repeating vs mode, i think this game could entertain me 2 months at least, unlike tf2 where it could last me for years. I think for now, ,i gonna raise my "crossed sword skull" black flag.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 4 2009, 09:31 PM)
I think the main problem is the price.L4D was charged as a full priced game,which is RM139,while the content it has is more or less as much as TF2.TF2 was priced lower and it's is part of Orange Box.People dont feel so ripoff,whether they buy TF2 standalone or from Orange Box as they have HL2 and Portal to mess around.

Then,out of no where and less than a year,Valve announced L4D2.Gamers still have to pay full price for a updated version of the game,een though it has a lot of new features.If Valve give a discount for existing L4D owners,or sell the game at lower price,i think people wont complain so much.

This isnt much different than Fifa,NFS or Madden release every year.
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The Orange Box is the single most value for money package in the history of games retail. Comparing anything else to it is asinine... It isn't the benchmark for value for money, its the upper limit.

Now, I wouldn't call the content the same as TF2 (When it was released, not after the 4 major updates). Heck its not even close when you think about it. The Source engine upgrade, the Director, and the ragdolls... The MAGNIFICENT ragdolls!

You want to argue about multiplayer playtime, fine... But saying that the content and amount of work put into TF2 is the same as L4D, that's just grasping at straws.

So, you are equating the new content for L4D2 over L4D as a simple roster change?

Nerdrage is raging.

QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jun 4 2009, 09:41 PM)
you make chocolate cake, and you make cheesecake...then you hope to combine both become mooncake. that's what they are sayin.

i am not spoilt by TF2 i rarely play it too. i feel empty about L4D. After the game, i feel like "just like that?" kinda thingy. like h@h@ said, the hours of enjoyment in L4D thing. For me, is not enough yet. I dont feel enough. Something is missing. But now...poof. L4D2 in the face. Nah, chew something out of this sequel...which was suppose to be in L4D 1.

anyways, we shall see. whether or not valve shall tremble... (too much D3)... laugh.gif
oh, +1 to plant. I am with you on this one.
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Unfortunately, (Not a stab at you or anything) I don't think you'll find L4D 2 any better. It probably will feel a little less repetitive (With the Director having more options to mess with the flow) but if L4D bored you, I think this will probably do the same.

I don't know what are Valve's plans for L4D. It may just be dead in the water after the sequel drops... They may make into a Dawn of War + expansions style system where both are needed for maximum fun.

I do know that I still have faith in Valve... and when they say "hold on" I'll wait and listen to what they have to say. Valve are probably one of the few game companies out there that actively uses customer (And even public) feedback to directly alter their decisions... There's a reason they chose to drop the L4D2 announcement so suddenly which would obviously result in this kind of backlash. I'm curious as to why they would risk their reputation for it.

Aren't you?
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rwar.

anyway.

one thing i know is, that, i will definitely going to have funz with l4d2. biggrin.gif
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same term as " u pay to buy the game to have fun, and u didnt play it until sequel release" who to blame?

If u did play in the time, then the L4D already serve u already..

For those who love free stuff, should go play MMO games, there are TONS on free stuff for u for sure.
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yes H@H@...no..no stabbing detected. LOL...
that's my point. The game feels kinda empty and not complete, what I "was" thinking is that they would probably release some kinda updates like some content in the L4D2 in the upcoming DLC. Most ppl complained too few maps/champaigns, not even weapons...more character...not many complained bout the AI director (if valve truly wishes to hear us).

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i'd have to agree on one point with H@H@, and that is to wait and see. at the moment a lot of the complaints are based on speculation, and valve simply hasnt revealed enough for us to justify the continual rage.

we were disappointed when they decided to ship what was promised as DLC as a sequel instead, but we still don't know the cost nor the delivery method.

i will say that anyone who bought the game during a discount, i dont see why you should be complaining because at rm80-90, its a good price for the game. my personal rant against the price was when it cost rm140 or 150+ if you preordered on steam. while i felt the game was not worth that much, i definitely felt it was worth the price of a standalone TF2 pack smile.gif

those who preordered it definitely have the right to be mad, but at this point all we can do is wait and see what happens.
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QUOTE(secondrate @ Jun 5 2009, 12:36 AM)
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like strife said.. lets wait n see.
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i had a burst of inspiration while lurking in the steam forums reading a rage thread which was one of the calmest rage threads i'd ever read. it was fun to read, even as i got further and further away from the first page. i finally found myself on the 12th page and had a realization. just thought i'd share it here:

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having spent some time reading the whole thread so far (yes, i did have too much free time on my hands tongue.gif), i got to thinking how valve might actually solve this problem without screwing the l4d1 owners, and the soon-to-be l4d2 owners, as well as those who plan to own both.

i'm thinking, when l4d2 is to be released, they should scrap l4d1's engine and replace it with l4d2's. what you get here is your same old trusty game content (l4d's 4 campaigns) and the brand spanking new weapons, the same old characters which we all love, MAYBE the new infected (which in fact we SHOULD be getting), along with whatever new stuff with the exception of the actual gameplay content of l4d2 (the characters and storyline). and we should also get 1 or 2 new campaigns (starring the old cast) that take advantage of the new map pathing abilities of the AID 2.0.

by doing this, you have both games running on the same platform, just differing content depending on which one you own. so to sum it up, the engine will then be uniform, and those who own l4d1 will get l4d1 "story content" (for a lack of a better name, i hope you get the point) with l4d2's engine changes, l4d2 will have the engine and the new content, and thus those who own both would have the content of both games accessible.

this way, what you're really paying for is the story content of l4d2, which is definitely something that ought to be paid for (voice acting and all that, including the work the team put in to developing the addon technologies). in my view it of course isn't worth paying $50 for. this would be more akin to an episodic type of release. it would even create a great model for valve where they can keep pumping out Campaign Expansions with new characters each time, filling us in with more detail on the world of L4D. i certainly wouldnt mind paying a nominal amount like how the hl2 episodes are priced for such content.

i'd just like to ask though, is there a source for the price speculation of $50? other than the game sales website (i forgot the name of it)?


let me know what you think, and if you'd like you can visit the thread here : http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/show...ad.php?t=887645

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you know what?

i think they should make left 4 dead 0
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Added on June 5, 2009, 11:03 amyah. regarding left 4 dead.

how come we dun see any zombie children?

all grown up zombies?

warafak?

someone make a petition please!


Added on June 5, 2009, 11:04 amyeah. zombies children would be so kewl!

they would die faster lol. maybe a shotgun shot to the belly would rip 'em apart in 2!

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Jun 5 2009, 11:02 AM)
you know what?

i think they should make left 4 dead 0
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Added on June 5, 2009, 11:03 amyah. regarding left 4 dead.

how come we dun see any zombie children?

all grown up zombies?

warafak?

someone make a petition please!


Added on June 5, 2009, 11:04 amyeah. zombies children would be so kewl!

they would die faster lol. maybe a shotgun shot to the belly would rip 'em apart in 2!
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That kid zombie picture is awesome biggrin.gif

You do not see children zombie most probably because you can't kill children in lots of video game without having the game face very harsh treatment from "rating agencies". That would make the game super hard to release in countries like Australia or Germany who are known to be a pain in the butt for violence/gore stuff.

If I remember it was kind of reason Fallout 3 did not have children as killable anymore, they feared the 3D + killing kids would really not go well in some countries...

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ah. yeah. bugga.

kids in fallout 3 cannot die one.

got any mod to change that? lol

fallout 1 and fallout 2 best ah.

kill a kid. get child killer achievement. winrar! rclxms.gif

left 4 dead 0 - before they became the special infected
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i'm pretty sure there's a kid killer mod, when i was last browsing through the fallout nexus.
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Jun 5 2009, 11:35 AM)
ah. yeah. bugga.

kids in fallout 3 cannot die one.

got any mod to change that? lol

fallout 1 and fallout 2 best ah.

kill a kid. get child killer achievement. winrar! rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jun 5 2009, 11:19 AM)
That kid zombie picture is awesome  biggrin.gif

You do not see children zombie most probably because you can't kill children in lots of video game without having the game face very harsh treatment from "rating agencies". That would make the game super hard to release in countries like Australia or Germany who are known to be a pain in the butt for violence/gore stuff.

If I remember it was kind of reason Fallout 3 did not have children as killable anymore, they feared the 3D + killing kids would really not go well in some countries...
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Jun 5 2009, 11:35 AM)
ah. yeah. bugga.

kids in fallout 3 cannot die one.

got any mod to change that? lol

fallout 1 and fallout 2 best ah.

kill a kid. get child killer achievement. winrar! rclxms.gif

left 4 dead 0 - before they became the special infected
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QUOTE(strife_personified @ Jun 5 2009, 11:50 AM)
i'm pretty sure there's a kid killer mod, when i was last browsing through the fallout nexus.
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Left 4 Dead 2 Gameplay Videos on Youtube


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHZzHGXxeT8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TGW24U6-eU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs5IAtiSYb8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axrV1ZoUvLc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2IL8PNoHMc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAVrXwlMKlU

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i still prefer it at night biggrin.gif
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Hitler - Downfall L4D2 version

Because this game needs a meme

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Hitler - Downfall L4D2 version

Because this game needs a meme
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nuff said.. heh... "ACHTUNG!" tongue.gif

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I think L4D2 will give us new experience in zombie shooting games. I think its going 2 be an awesome game. ^^

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Fans Boycott Left 4 Dead 2

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And here too http://kotaku.com/5281374/l4d-sequel-met-w...an-indifference
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In direct contrast to the L4D2 Boycott Group the L4D2 Enthusiasts group, sporting nearly 700 members at the moment, supports valves release of L4D2. Their main page reads:

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source
http://www.l4dnao.com
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They can boycott all they want. But end up buying it anyways.
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well if i really boycott the game, i wont buy it.
will join the group when i got back. they will have 15001 members. muahahaha...
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Hmm the development time means L4D2 won't have a lot of content at launch.

The whole series is not very value for money anyways.
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i think teh only reason i might even consider getting l4d would be for the competitive play which seems to be booming in msia at hte moment. l4d2 has no place on my gaming roster tongue.gif for now, anyways tongue.gif
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havent play left4dead that much. was spending more time on tf2

left4dead was fun, but doesnt last long enough for me.

left4dead2 look cool, but hope it can be cheaper.

I bought left4dead at around RM130, when firstly complete the game, I was like "errr finish already?" biggrin.gif hahaah

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PC Gamer US has an interesting preview of this game this month.

It spans around 5-6 pages if not mistaken.
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post Jun 29 2009, 06:51 PM

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cant wait for it! >.<
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post Jun 29 2009, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(Flare124 @ Jun 29 2009, 06:27 PM)
Yo bobohead is dat really true?
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Just a joke
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post Jun 30 2009, 09:07 AM

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This video is hypnotizing @.@
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post Jun 30 2009, 10:07 PM

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Doug Lombardi Interview at London Press Event


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post Jul 10 2009, 12:37 AM

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definitely going 2 buy it

lucky bought L4D , get discount biggrin.gif
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post Jul 31 2009, 01:34 PM

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Not sure anyone post this before..
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And yeah, for those who didnt know.. thats 'female' its the new special infected..

Cheers rclxub.gif
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wow the comic is revolting.

nice job kecup.
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post Jul 31 2009, 02:13 PM

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Haha WTF, they turn L4D into a Need for Speed franchise laugh.gif
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post Jul 31 2009, 03:28 PM

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eh, l4d2 will have discount if u have l4d? regardless of how u bought it? or only those who bought online
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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Jul 31 2009, 03:28 PM)
eh, l4d2 will have discount if u have l4d? regardless of how u bought it? or only those who bought online
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no official mention there will be discount for current l4d owner
where u hear that?
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Forgot to add...new videos...

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post Jul 31 2009, 10:49 PM

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Too bad no more zoey
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post Jul 31 2009, 10:56 PM

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Oh! Spitter is awesome! biggrin.gif
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Spitter is hawt.

I mean literally hawt!.
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This is the one game I will be waiting for discounts. tongue.gif
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new infected joining, Charger, Spitter and Jockey

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i know this maybe slowpoke, just wanna update this thread :3

and I can't wait for this, seriously. still, i hope its got discount for us L4D1 owner =/
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my gamers sense are tingling~~

early 1 week demo acess for pre-order~~
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Considering the contents in L4D2,i think im getting if MW2 is a huge flop.

By the rate MW2 is going,i doubt i'll like the MP,other than the campaign.
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post Sep 5 2009, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 5 2009, 06:11 PM)
Considering the contents in L4D2,i think im getting if MW2 is a huge flop.

By the rate MW2 is going,i doubt i'll like the MP,other than the campaign.
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IF they decides to fix Grenade Warfare 2
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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Sep 5 2009, 06:37 PM)
IF they decides to fix Grenade Warfare 2
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Not only that,the AC130 and Riot Shield that everyone hates it so much in CS:CZ.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 5 2009, 06:45 PM)
Not only that,the AC130 and Riot Shield that everyone hates it so much in CS:CZ.
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AC130 looks counterable with a well placed anti air missle
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post Sep 5 2009, 07:33 PM

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Riot shield? kewl, but it isnt foolproof biggrin.gif btw new weapons in L4D2?
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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Sep 5 2009, 07:04 PM)
AC130 looks counterable with a well placed anti air missle
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AC130 also have flares.Considering how pain in the ass of a helicopter in CoD4,i think AC130 is even worse.

QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Sep 5 2009, 07:33 PM)
Riot shield? kewl, but it isnt foolproof biggrin.gif btw new weapons in L4D2?
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Not 100% sure how is it implemented,but by the looks of it,i just dont like it.
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Hope the new gameplay. Will make everyone stick even closer. I mean really close.
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post Sep 5 2009, 08:18 PM

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stick too close, 1 whack all fly away. just nid keep team on sight, doesnt nid to be close, jsut in sight are good

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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Sep 5 2009, 08:18 PM)
stick too close, 1 whack all fly away. just nid keep team on sight, doesnt nid to be close, jsut in sight are good
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yeah, not very practical also cause Valve has create a new infected called the charger... he can bascially run every1 down like a bowlingball pin.


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post Sep 9 2009, 03:50 PM

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Looks great to be honest.

Especially Jockey.
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post Sep 9 2009, 04:00 PM

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im 100% getting this.. i hope got discount
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Melee weapons now replace the pistols? Aw man, I was hoping they were sticking with making it hardcore by making it replace your main weapon.

I like the new boss infected though. The spitter is nasty.
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jockey is rly awesome, u looks funny when he buttseks u from behind
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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Sep 9 2009, 04:13 PM)
jockey is rly awesome, u looks funny when he buttseks u from behind
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LOL,buttsecks.
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looks lol... hes like shaking on ur back, makes me crack up
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I guess they were going to upgrade the handgun to primary weapon status, using those geng ones like magnum.

People would love the Resident Evil one-shot kill magnum.
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Agree. A different kind of hand gun would be nice.
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hohoho! Jockey is soooooo cool
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post Sep 11 2009, 02:54 AM

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Left 4 Dead 2 melee weapons revealed
Posted Sep 10th 2009 8:00AM by John Callaham
Filed under: FPS, Multiplayer, Left 4 Dead Series



One of the new features added for Valve's Left 4 Dead 2 compared to the original is all the new melee weapons that you can use to bash, cut, and dismember some undead skulls with. Our sister site Joystiq has got a hold of Valve's entire list of melee weapons for the zombie co-op shooter sequel. If you want to remain surprised stop reading now. If you want to check out the entire list you can see it after the jump:


■Baseball Bat
■Cricket Bat
■Crowbar
■Electric Guitar
■Fire Axe
■Frying Pan
■Katana
■Machete
■Tonfa (police baton)
■Chainsaw

All in all it's a pretty varied mix of items and we have to think the Chainsaw will be the most popular. Hey, it worked for Gears of War.
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I still prefer Fireaxe. biggrin.gif
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what ever happen to the gunblade?
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post Sep 11 2009, 09:37 AM

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Hmm i though some of the melee weapons like the electric guitar is only available through pre-order copies. Is that true?
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QUOTE(CyPrinZe @ Sep 11 2009, 07:09 AM)
what ever happen to the gunblade?
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QUOTE(Abyssio @ Sep 11 2009, 09:37 AM)
Hmm i though some of the melee weapons like the electric guitar is only available through pre-order copies. Is that true?
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Yes, but so far only for the bat I think...
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QUOTE(Abyssio @ Sep 11 2009, 09:37 AM)
Hmm i though some of the melee weapons like the electric guitar is only available through pre-order copies. Is that true?
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Thats only the baseball bat.

BONK.
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It would be nice if they gave out weapons based on your Steam games listing.
So, if you own:
TF2 = Bat
Any Half-Life game = Crowbar
Counter-strike = Knife

Or something like that.
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Sep 11 2009, 12:10 PM)
It would be nice if they gave out weapons based on your Steam games listing.
So, if you own:
TF2 = Bat
Any Half-Life game = Crowbar
Counter-strike = Knife

Or something like that.
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Plus with the ball too so that we can stun Tank. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Sep 11 2009, 12:10 PM)
It would be nice if they gave out weapons based on your Steam games listing.
So, if you own:
TF2 = Bat
Any Half-Life game = Crowbar
Counter-strike = Knife

Or something like that.
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if got all 3 then how ah? sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Sep 11 2009, 12:15 PM)
if got all 3 then how ah? sweat.gif
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then u get all 3 lor... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Sep 11 2009, 12:10 PM)
It would be nice if they gave out weapons based on your Steam Valve games listing.
So, if you own:
TF2 = Bat
Any Half-Life game = Crowbar
Counter-strike = Knife

Or something like that.
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tongue.gif FIXEDDD
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resssisttt the jockeeyyyy...! resssisttt!!!!!111111111
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QUOTE(JuzJoe @ Sep 5 2009, 08:20 PM)
yeah, not very practical also cause Valve has create a new infected called the charger... he can bascially run every1 down like a bowlingball pin.
dont talk like u r suprise lol, u played in EDEN Server, the red tank same as it. U should play it now though, they have several new tank, hellish tank that berak fire where ever he go, and damm hard to die, in advanced~
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Valve boycotts BACK

Many lulz... good one Valve.
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^ when i read this I LOL so hard in the office every1 in the office stared at me. blush.gif
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u fly him here or he fly u there?
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QUOTE(JuzJoe @ Sep 11 2009, 06:41 PM)
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^ when i read this I LOL so hard in the office every1 in the office stared at me.  blush.gif
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LOL yea,i was laughing out loud in uni when i saw that.
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pity the guy $400 for 2 plane tickets
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Come on everyone! Lets Boycott Valve Boycotting Joe's Custom Campaign! Sign up now!
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QUOTE(frags @ Sep 11 2009, 07:02 PM)
Come on everyone! Lets Boycott Valve Boycotting Joe's Custom Campaign! Sign up now!
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Link???
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 11 2009, 07:15 PM)
Link???
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Noooo I cant create...joke failed cry.gif
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QUOTE(frags @ Sep 11 2009, 07:21 PM)
Noooo I cant create...joke failed cry.gif
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Go create one la . laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 11 2009, 07:33 PM)
Go create one la . laugh.gif
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Got some sort of error. No idea why cant create.
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QUOTE(frags @ Sep 11 2009, 07:39 PM)
Got some sort of error. No idea why cant create.
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Hmmm,thats strange.
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http://l4d2boycott.proboards.com/index.cgi...read=387&page=1

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We stood around for about two or three minutes in a totally empty reception area. Then one of the Valve staff walks by and asks us if we need help or if we’re waiting on someone and we explain we’re waiting on Chet. In short order we’re greeted by another Valve staff member, Chet had been tied up in a meeting. I’m going to go ahead and say it was Erik that gave us the tour, even though that might not be right. Valve takes up the entire 10th floor, part of the 11th and 9th and a few offices on the 8th. We were only touring the 10th and part of the 9th, we were told that there’s another “game design group” on the 11th; but details were purposefully vague. I think that Valve is working on a new project or it’s Episode 3 in progress.

It’s right about here that I think I should mention that Valve never asked us to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement we get to write about everything we have seen. We were also allowed to take pictures just about everywhere, although I was so busy asking questions and getting answers that I didn’t take all that many pictures.

From there we are given a tour of the Valve offices, through the Valve server room, saw the kill button for Valve’s servers and got a chance to say Hi to a whole lot of the Dev team for L4D/L4D2. We got to see all of 10th floor and most of the 9th and saw some really cool stuff in progress, all sorts of game concept art and bits and pieces of level design for both L4D and L4D2.
From there, we sat down with Gabe and some of the L4D/L4D2 dev team.

Gabe told us right up front that the reaction to the announcement of Left 4 Dead 2 had been unexpected. He also said part of this was trying to develop multiple titles at the same time. The reaction of the community was thoroughly shocking to Valve; they didn’t expect this kind of backlash on the announcement of Left 4 Dead 2. Further to that, having Agent of Chaos and myself out was part of trying to work with the community.

Near release of Left 4 Dead Valve made all sorts of claims about upcoming content; With Left 4 Dead 2 they have been very careful about revealing potential content until they are sure it will be in the game and are not making the same claims about support. It seems likely that this is in response to the community’s concerns over Left 4 Dead, not just the boycott; and it is likely that Valve is being careful about what they claim is coming.
After talking to Gabe and a bunch of the L4D/L4D2 guys, we met up with Chet and talk about L4D and L4D2.

Unfortunately we didn’t get a chance to play the new DLC, it wasn’t available (or so I was told when I asked). I did ask Chet about bug fixes/exploit fixes for L4D; I was told that bug and exploit fixes are being worked on, just like interoperability (aka. cross play). We talked about the problems with some of the L4D weapons and things like stacking/camping. It was mentioned that there ‘should be fixes for that’ coming in the near future. The one thing we can take from all that is that they are still working on bug fixes and they will come, just probably not before L4D2 drops. I’m pretty sure Chet had also mentioned something about how some of the L4D2 fixes could be incorporated into L4D, however I’m not sure if that was in relation to a wide variety of things or problems with the Hunting Rifle / Sniper Rifle which was something we were talking about at the time.

Now for some good news: There is more DLC for Left 4 Dead coming after CrashCourse. We were given a rough idea of what it should be, however we were asked not to talk too much about it so it didn’t “influence the creative process”. I can tell you this: it’ll either be a new Special Infected, a new Campaign or new Weapon(s). It’s definitely one of the three, perhaps more. This is pretty much the only thing that we were asked not to talk about (remember, *asked* we didn’t sign anything). To that end, we’ll continue to bug Chet about this after Crash Course drops.
I can tell you guys this though; Chet and the rest of the L4D team are still excited about the original four survivors and working the stories of L4D and L4D2 together. To that end, Gabe told us that they’re working on a project that will bridge the stories of L4D and L4D2 and that it will be available through steam (I believe the word ‘free’ was tossed in there too, just don’t quote me on it). It was also hinted at that they were doing something for the Mod community; Agent of Chaos heard more about that though.

As for ‘Cross-Play’, it’s the same story that’s been given to other news outlets like Shacknews: http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1193&page=2
They say they’re working on it. We weren’t shown anything to that end but it’s probably just code at this point anyway and as was said to us and Shacknews, it’s not going to be known how they’ll do it until closer to release. I’m not going to say I have faith in “Cross Play” one way or another at this point, because we didn’t see anything on the subject.

What’s hard to convey here is how open and honest the staff were. There’s no feeling that they’re trying to hide anything from you and often you hear “oh wait, can we talk about that?” after something slips out. Some of you will say “of course, they want you to feel like that, it’s a trap!” but it does not come across like that. They really do seem to want to work on both games in tandem.

To be honest, there’s still more to write about, but I’d prefer to answer specific questions about L4D related things as opposed to a massive wall of text. So if you guys have questions, please either post them on the forums ( http://www.l4d2boycott.proboards.com ) or email them to l4d2boycott@gmail.com . I will be answering questions from the community on Friday or Saturday, depending on volume. Believe it or not, talking to these folks in person and getting answers about future DLC is at least some progress for the group.

At this point though, enough of calling myself and Agent ‘traitors’. It doesn’t matter what course of actions we could have taken, or how ‘assertive’ we were with Valve, you folks would not be pleased. If we refused the invitation, you would say we aren’t doing our jobs. Accepting an invitation got us called ‘Traitors’. Complaining and whining is not going to get you anywhere, because nothing we could possibly do would make you happy and I’m through trying.
So again, please email or post questions and I will answer to the best of my ability. Please leave cursing/foul language out though; I’d like to copy/paste your questions directly without having to edit that stuff out.

-Walking_Target
(This has been my own thoughts, opinions and views of what happened and does not include Agent of Chaos’ opinions or views)

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Lets create our own boycott group so that we get to play l4d2 too!
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What do they mean by crossplay?

Does that mean that players of L4D2 and L4D1 get to play together?
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 12 2009, 05:45 PM)
What do they mean by crossplay?

Does that mean that players of L4D2 and L4D1 get to play together?
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Yes because if they can make l4d campaigns playable in l4d2 it is possible to retain the community than to split them up.
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QUOTE(frags @ Sep 12 2009, 05:47 PM)
Yes because if they can make l4d campaigns playable in l4d2 it is possible to retain the community than to split them up.
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Thats great,does that mean i get to play as the L4D1 cast then?

If buying L4D2 also gives the content of L4D1,it's pretty much fukken sold to me.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 12 2009, 05:49 PM)
Thats great,does that mean i get to play as the L4D1 cast then?

If buying L4D2 also gives the content of L4D1,it's pretty much fukken sold to me.
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I don't think they will do that. If you own l4d then you can get l4d content in l4d2. No you cant play with other survivors in l4d2 campaign without a mod or some sort of hack.

Remember the survivors have specific dialogue that are triggered with scripts in campaigns. But i'm sure the community will find a way to change the models etc.
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Left 4 Dead 2 banned in Australia
Posted Sep 16th 2009 9:50PM by John Callaham
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Oh boy. Here we go again. The government of Australia has elected to ban yet another high profile upcoming game from being sold in that country. According to Kotaku Australia, the country's Classification Board has decided not to give Valve's upcoming zombie co-op shooter Left 4 Dead 2.

So far there's no word on why the game was banned. The original game, which came out a year ago, managed to get an MA15+ rating from the board. As we have mentioned many, many times before Australia does not have a rating higher than that which means any game with truly adult content cannot be sold there. Many games that were banned were later allowed to be sold after edits were made to their content. At the moment there's no word on what Valve and its publishing partner Electronic Arts plan to do about this situation.

i guess cheesenium can forget about it XD
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Gosh...... and to think I bought the original L4D hoping to last me for 2 years

played all the campaigns through and through and still waiting for new contents
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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Sep 17 2009, 01:23 PM)
Left 4 Dead 2 banned in Australia
Posted Sep 16th 2009 9:50PM by John Callaham
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Oh boy. Here we go again. The government of Australia has elected to ban yet another high profile upcoming game from being sold in that country. According to Kotaku Australia, the country's Classification Board has decided not to give Valve's upcoming zombie co-op shooter Left 4 Dead 2.

So far there's no word on why the game was banned. The original game, which came out a year ago, managed to get an MA15+ rating from the board. As we have mentioned many, many times before Australia does not have a rating higher than that which means any game with truly adult content cannot be sold there. Many games that were banned were later allowed to be sold after edits were made to their content. At the moment there's no word on what Valve and its publishing partner Electronic Arts plan to do about this situation.

i guess cheesenium can forget about it XD
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I'm guessing its because there's limb dismemberment with melee weapons.

Even then, it seems a wee bit too soon seeing as the game is still months from release. *kneejerk*
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What? No L4D2 in Aus?

Damn,means no free servers for me too. doh.gif
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QUOTE(Wolf516 @ Sep 18 2009, 12:46 AM)
Gosh...... and to think I bought the original L4D hoping to last me for 2 years

played all the campaigns through and through and still waiting for new contents
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dont worry, valve never said about stop providing L4D content~~
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I think im gonna give L4D2 a pass then,as Australia has banned this game. doh.gif

Let only MW2 for this winter.

101% gonna buy D3 in Malaysia.
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Australia gov is piss off with l4d without getting more content, so they boycott l4d2.

i lived in OZ, i dont plan to get. smile.gif
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Australia gov is piss off with l4d without getting more content, so they boycott l4d2.

i lived in OZ, i dont plan to get. smile.gif
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Haha.Like thats the real reason.
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Haha Australian govt is so lame laugh.gif

It's just a zombie game.

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I'm waiting for a news about Valve inviting the whole Australasia to Valve HQ to play L4D2.

Or since Gabe Newell is going to Australia, he can just form a rebellion about it. tongue.gif
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if it really banned in australia... i think no nid go already
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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Sep 18 2009, 08:27 PM)
if it really banned in australia... i think no nid go already
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Edi, you never heard about the news?
About some modder and Gabe having joke e-mail exchange about Gabe not inviting him to Valve HQ to try L4D2?
and Gabe said that they're boycotting his campaign?
and that the modder made a donation page to buy 2 tickets, costing USD2200+?
and that Robin Walker of Valve donated USD100?
and that the end result is the donation reached USD3000+?

Gabe and Erik is flying to Australia.

Unless there's update I never know about.

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I heard they were banned in Australia because there's drug that could be injected into the survivors body to give them an extra boost or something..

Also, I heard they were NOT banned in Australia but the drug injection content is gonna be remove if I'm not mistaken..

Could someone verify these rumours??



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It's Adrenaline injection...zzz which is normally used in real life medical and emergency situations. It's a basic gameplay mechanic, how to remove?

Maybe they rename it to Estrogen injection and see how the Aussies react laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Sep 19 2009, 04:29 PM)
It's Adrenaline injection...zzz which is normally used in real life medical and emergency situations. It's a basic gameplay mechanic, how to remove?

Maybe they rename it to Estrogen injection and see how the Aussies react laugh.gif
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Is bioshock banned in australia as well? similar "injecting" situation wink.gif)

Just because of the adrenaline injection?...Aww
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QUOTE(lost_destiny @ Sep 19 2009, 04:07 PM)
I heard they were banned in Australia because there's drug that could be injected into the survivors body to give them an extra boost or something..

Also, I heard they were NOT banned in Australia but the drug injection content is gonna be remove if I'm not mistaken..

Could someone verify these rumours??
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If its defined as painkillers, then it shouldn't be an issue (Otherwise, Max Payne would've been banned as well)

Are you drawing a parallel based on what happened with Fallout 3, where they wanted to rename the drug names? (Which is quite silly to begin with because the first 2 Fallouts DIDN'T have real names either, so it was some stupid guy at Bethesda's fault for making that situation happen)

Most definitely its about violence.

Anyway, with Bioshock, you were injecting some "fantasy" substance into your body, not a real life drug.

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Australians:
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(nothing against them, i just found the injection thing farny laugh.gif)
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Deja vu Fallout 3 episode? tongue.gif.

Anyway, no $$ to buy L4D2. Aiming for either MW2 or DA: O.

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Left 4 dead teletubbies mod

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cool. but i still prefer the old L4D
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September 22, 2009 - Valve finally announced the release date for Crash Course, the second expansion pack for Left 4 Dead. Fans can download the new content worldwide starting on September 29.

Supporting single-player, multiplayer, and cooperative play, the 'Crash Course' storyline takes place at the end of the 'No Mercy' campaign and the start of 'Death Toll' in the original. The expansion focuses on providing a new streamlined Versus experience in 30 minutes.

The pack is free for PC, but Xbox 360 owners will have to pony up 560 Microsoft Points.


http://pc.ign.com/articles/102/1027487p1.html

Crash Course will be out Sept 29th!

EDIT ahhh crap this s L4D2 thread...I'll repost in the l4d thread.

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aik, only 1? I thought they said there will be 2 dlc maps coming, probably later.
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aik, only 1? I thought they said there will be 2 dlc maps coming, probably later.
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The promised downloadable sample for Valve's zombie shooter sequel will arrive on October 27, the company confirmed tonight at an Electronic Arts event in Japan.
No other details were mentioned, leaving it unclear as to if that date applies to everyone or just those that pre-order. However, a listing from retailer game.co.uk notes "[the Xbox 360] demo will be exclusive to preorder customers up until 3rd November."

Valve previously said those who pre-ordered from "participating retailers or Steam" would snag "advanced access to the demo," with the company later adding that pre-ordering folk would also receive an exclusive melee weapon: the American baseball bat.

The PC and Xbox 360 game is due November 17. We're checking in for more details, including whether or not PC and Xbox 360 will get the demo on the same day.


http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/60560

L4D2 demo out October 27th. Probably for pre ordered customers. No extra detail about it.
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how much l4d2 gonna cost?
<<<rm200?
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i understimate price will be Steam RM180+, local retail RM139
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not much far price from l4d 1
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Guys, it is a full sequel and not an add-on pack (Regardless of how you want to view it, that's what *they* say it is)... Why should they price it lower than the first one?

But I am hoping e-club would cut us some slack... Quite vain though. wink.gif
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I'm not hoping for anything.
A Sequel is sequel. I just hope that valve would give discount/lower price for L4D owners or maybe some privileges.

zombie or not,
human or not, i'm buying la... tongue.gif
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Anyone preordering L4D2 for the baseball bat? smile.gif

45USD, that's like RM170+ -____-;; Retail would be cheaper yes?

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Anyone preordering L4D2 for the baseball bat? smile.gif

45USD, that's like RM170+  -____-;; Retail would be cheaper yes?
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Hint: Left 4 Dead 2 Four Pack is going for $134.99 USD

134.99/4 = 33.75 thats RM 117.43


Yes if you compare retail to the single digital copy that is cheaper...
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Yeah, considering to get the Four Pack for the extra baseball bat.
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any1 thinking of cheeping in for the 4 pack preordering?

but having a baseball bat as an exclusive item, is not too impressive for me; electric guitar or a chainsaw would be cool.

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Left 4 Dead 2 pre-orders get 10 percent off via Steam
Posted Oct 2nd 2009 3:00PM by John Callaham
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Just over a month away from its release, Valve is finally taking pre-orders for its upcoming zombie co-op shooter sequel Left 4 Dead 2 via their Steam download service. The game is still scheduled for release on November 17 and people who pre-order before that date can get 10 percent off the game's normal $49.99 price tag.

As previously reported, pre-orders will also get first crack at the Left 4 Dead 2 demo which will be made available for them on October 27 (everyone else will wait for an extra week before getting access). Finally, pre-orders get the exclusive baseball bat melee weapon to knock off some undead pests.

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I want one..... cry.gif

I'll get it next year
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hmm...
Who wants? I'm thinking to chip in 4 copies lolz...
I don't mind the retail's freebies, and I hate the retail's packaging; if it's taking the same form as left 4 dead.
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USD134.99 for Four Pack during the deal.

x3.65 = 492.71

492.71/4 = 123.17

Retail Price should be RM138 if e-club uses the same price like ol' L4D.

So, BUY IT!
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"How it'll work is, if you're playing with somebody that's pre-ordered it, everybody playing gets it," Valve's Chet Faliszek explained.


So is it really exclusive?
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Against my better judgement, I think might want in on that cheaper pack.
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Anybody pre-ordering L4D2?
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I won't buy it at the moment, will probably try out first. or wait a bigger discount on that game. I'm disappointed to l4d, kinda feel bad buying it too early.
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Amagad!! That expensive?!
50 bucks a copy! L4D is half the price of the new L4D2..

Planing to buy this game just for this school holiday season.. But just looking at the price makes me wanna puke..

Was L4D price is the same as L4D2 during its release?

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QUOTE(lost_destiny @ Oct 3 2009, 02:32 PM)
Amagad!! That expensive?!
50 bucks a copy! L4D is half the price of the new L4D2..

Planing to buy this game just for this school holiday season.. But just looking at the price makes me wanna puke..

Was L4D price is the same as L4D2 during its release?
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QUOTE(lost_destiny @ Oct 3 2009, 02:32 PM)
Amagad!! That expensive?!
50 bucks a copy! L4D is half the price of the new L4D2..

Planing to buy this game just for this school holiday season.. But just looking at the price makes me wanna puke..

Was L4D price is the same as L4D2 during its release?
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Didn't you know? It was exactly the same price before.

Now it's just half the price.
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Nope..That is why I'm asking

Just got into these 'original' gaming scene since 5 months ago.. tongue.gif

So basically, if I want a cheaper price, buy the four pack with another 3 friends eh?

Anybody's with me? brows.gif
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waiting for weekend offer
50% off the next weekend L4D2 is released
then i can lol at u guys who preorder biggrin.gif
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yea i guess i will wait for discount, gonna grab borderland first, kinda bored on L4D style
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likely not to happen.

Let's do a bulk starting here.

1st Bulk
1. temptation1314
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*I just wondering how the exclusive baseball bats will works
either 1 in 4 people gets(The buyer) or all 4 also get the same stuff.

If all 4 get, then we can see "Scouts" infesting Left 4 Dead 2 laugh.gif
Bong!
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Hell no, im not buying this shit~

50 bucks for reskin models and a couple of perks here and there isn't worth the buck. Might aswell wait a couple more months until those bastards at Valve release the weekend off price.

I can live without L4D for a long~~~~~ time~~. We have Borderland to play with until Valve caves in.smile.gif Im pretty sure after L4D 2 goes live they will completely forget about the first installment. The new map they made feels like a cheap attempt to cater to the backlash from players. BOIKOT L4D2!!!!!!

At least until they give us the weekend 50%deal~smile.gif

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Oct 3 2009, 03:53 PM)
likely not to happen.

Let's do a bulk starting here.

1st Bulk
1. temptation1314
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*I just wondering how the exclusive baseball bats will works
either 1 in 4 people gets(The buyer) or all 4 also get the same stuff.

If all 4 get, then we can see "Scouts" infesting Left 4 Dead 2 laugh.gif
Bong!
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Most likely all 4 will get the exclusive bat and how it works, there's post about it before.

When one guy with the bat exclusive is in a game, the other three players in the game will be able to use it too.
It's like the exclusive guy "activate" the bat for the game.
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QUOTE(meetxj9 @ Oct 3 2009, 07:14 PM)
Hell no, im not buying this shit~

50 bucks for reskin models and a couple of perks here and there isn't worth the buck. Might aswell wait a couple more months until those bastards at Valve release the weekend off price.

I can live without L4D for a long~~~~~ time~~. We have Borderland to play with until Valve caves in.smile.gif Im pretty sure after L4D 2 goes live they will completely forget about the first installment. The new map they made feels like a cheap attempt to cater to the backlash from players. BOIKOT L4D2!!!!!!

At least until they give us the weekend 50%deal~smile.gif
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Considering the new stuff like the improved by leaps and bounds AI Director that changes the map each time you play and melee weapons which is not in L4D 1.Plus,those "not so significant" stuff like new guns,Special Infected,5 campaign out of the box,Survival Mode and another unannounced mode.

It's already good enough for me in a "half assed" looking sequel.

Do note that those content cant be put into a DLC,especially the new AI Director.
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Damn everywhere i go, the game site is full of promoting l4d 2, everyday i goes gametrailer.com, always got l4d2 gameplay footage or something.

valve promoting the game does not fool me, borderland here i come! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(meetxj9 @ Oct 3 2009, 07:14 PM)
Hell no, im not buying this shit~

50 bucks for reskin models and a couple of perks here and there isn't worth the buck. Might aswell wait a couple more months until those bastards at Valve release the weekend off price.

I can live without L4D for a long~~~~~ time~~. We have Borderland to play with until Valve caves in.smile.gif Im pretty sure after L4D 2 goes live they will completely forget about the first installment. The new map they made feels like a cheap attempt to cater to the backlash from players. BOIKOT L4D2!!!!!!

At least until they give us the weekend 50%deal~smile.gif
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I like to believe that the reason Crash Course is so mediocre is not because it was hacked together to appease the boycotters, but rather it was rushed and as a result its quality was severely compromised.

My take is, they were planning on releasing the new content a little later after L4D2 dropped, but since there were like a bajillion claims that Valve were dropping support for L4D, they had to compromise.

Its nice that Valve have developed this truly awesome relationship with their gaming community... They are in an absolutely unique position. Alas, this also means that they can't turn a blind eye to criticism anymore and as a result their "Valve time" has taken a great hit.


Also, do you ppl seriously believe they'll offer a 50% deal in a few months? SERIOUSLY? It has taken almost a YEAR to get the 50% drop for L4D (Even then its because of an impending sequel) and even with TF2 (Where the trend started), it took almost TWO YEARS for them to do it.

Just keep boycotting. I'll be playing BOTH L4D2 AND Borderlands.
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FFS I'll buy it, I'm a sucker for co-op wub.gif cry.gif


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QUOTE(Plant @ Oct 4 2009, 12:37 AM)
Damn everywhere i go, the game site is full of promoting l4d 2, everyday i goes gametrailer.com, always got l4d2 gameplay footage or something.

valve promoting the game does not fool me, borderland here i come!  biggrin.gif
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halo, did u forget something?
L4D2 not gonna released in australia biggrin.gif
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L4D2 have no price on Aus's Steam.

Crap.

Same goes for Borderland. doh.gif

They better dont do anything to MW2 and BC2.
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ive never bought l4d, always played the **** version. so i think, why not this time i buy the sequel tongue.gif
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likely not to happen.

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If all 4 get, then we can see "Scouts" infesting Left 4 Dead 2 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Oct 4 2009, 12:04 PM)
halo, did u forget something?
L4D2 not gonna released in australia biggrin.gif
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I know lol, i dont want get l4d2, it just that they over promoting their product..which is kinda emm lame advertising?

borderland can ask my friends in msia buy for me de.. or go back msia next year to get borderland...hehehehe

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QUOTE(Plant @ Oct 4 2009, 12:33 PM)
borderland can ask my friends in msia buy for me de.. or go back msia next year to get borderland...hehehehe
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It would sux so much if you cant play with the locals here.
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Yea it would really bad cannot play with the local, playing msia server always get 300 ping above, sigh =(


edit: are we talking about purchasing the game in msia and the game cannot work in oz?

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QUOTE(Plant @ Oct 4 2009, 04:17 PM)
Yea it would really bad cannot play with the local, playing msia server always get 300 ping above, sigh =(
edit: are we talking about purchasing the game in msia and the game cannot work in oz?
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i`m not sure, but i do heard rumor about it...
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QUOTE(Plant @ Oct 4 2009, 04:17 PM)
Yea it would really bad cannot play with the local, playing msia server always get 300 ping above, sigh =(
edit: are we talking about purchasing the game in msia and the game cannot work in oz?
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Yeah,i heard retail wont work outside the country you purchase.That isnt the problem,though,as you can buy from Steam.

The problem are the servers.And,no private servers with less content and updates.

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Oct 3 2009, 03:53 PM)
likely not to happen.

Let's do a bulk starting here.

1st Bulk
1. temptation1314
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4.

*I just wondering how the exclusive baseball bats will works
either 1 in 4 people gets(The buyer) or all 4 also get the same stuff.

If all 4 get, then we can see "Scouts" infesting Left 4 Dead 2 laugh.gif
Bong!
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ooh ooh. would like to join!
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1 account can onli buy 1 (4pack) u know, they wont allow you to buy 2nd (4pack). Dont believe?
try to buy L4D1 (4pack) see wat happen...
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other people who interested, might as well can try to group together here and do another bulk.

Btw eddy,

Cannot buy as a gift?
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 4 2009, 04:59 PM)
Yeah,i heard retail wont work outside the country you purchase.That isnt the problem,though,as you can buy from Steam.

The problem are the servers.And,no private servers with less content and updates.
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quote below.. haha

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QUOTE(Plant @ Oct 4 2009, 10:25 PM)
Weird i brought l4d and tf2 from msia and it work just fine, perhaps borderland doesn't work the same? however when i checked out EBgames which they can pre-order online already and it doesn't say anything about any country limitation?
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Wait,are you in Australia now and you bought your TF2/L4D retail from Malaysia?

Someone else told me that Malaysian retail Valve games dont work out side the country you purchase.

I think Borderland retail will still work at anywhere.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 4 2009, 10:29 PM)
Wait,are you in Australia now and you bought your TF2/L4D retail from Malaysia?

Someone else told me that Malaysian retail Valve games dont work out side the country you purchase.

I think Borderland retail will still work at anywhere.
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Yup i am in Australia now and i brought tf2/l4d in msia.
Who tell you that Malaysia retail Valve games cannot play? we must slaughter him.. if it is a girl then *ahem* seduce her if she is pretty. oh yea i thought at first cannot play in oversea, but it turns out it work out in Australia too.

I think some people tell you Malaysia Valve games cannot play oversea, maybe its a mistake? perhaps didnt look the option in the filter? the default setting is Asian server?and we couldnt see option for Australia server, if we set the filter option to Australia, then we can see Australia server?


Well yea, Borderland retail can work anywhere, hopefully, need to comfirm from retail store in EBgames if i am free.

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Oct 4 2009, 09:25 PM)
lol full jor. doh.gif
other people who interested, might as well can try to group together here and do another bulk.

Btw eddy,

Cannot buy as a gift?
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ok then...

anyone else wanna do a l4d2 bulk? i can organize it...

Current list:

1) Me (paid)
2) vorchiel (paid)
3) shazzmania (paid)
4) sniper69 (paid)

Bulk complete and games sent out rclxms.gif

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Yup i am in Australia now and i brought tf2/l4d in msia.
Who tell you that Malaysia retail Valve games cannot play? we must slaughter him.. if it is a girl then *ahem* seduce her if she is pretty. oh yea i thought at first cannot play in oversea, but it turns out it work out in Australia too.

I think some people tell you Malaysia Valve games cannot play oversea, maybe its a mistake? perhaps didnt look the option in the filter? the default setting is Asian server?and we couldnt see option for Australia server, if we set the filter option to Australia, then we can see Australia server?
Well yea, Borderland retail can work anywhere, hopefully, need to comfirm from retail store in EBgames if i am free.
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It was Torrz told me that his TF2 wont work in Aus,as it shows "this game is not available in this region".

Also,a friend of mine got a copy of Orange Box from HK,it doesnt work in Malaysia too.Same error message.

Which filter are you talking about? The server filter?
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 5 2009, 10:55 AM)
It was Torrz told me that his TF2 wont work in Aus,as it shows "this game is not available in this region".

Also,a friend of mine got a copy of Orange Box from HK,it doesnt work in Malaysia too.Same error message.

Which filter are you talking about? The server filter?
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Oh left4dead HK version cannot play in Australia region which my hk friends had told me, i have a couple of hk friends who own l4d and cannot play in Australia and I wonder why. Unfortunately in Australia playing tf2 i'd never encounter hk people connecting to oz server, but when i am in msia, i did encounter player from hk.

Hmm... maybe its the version? chinese version l4d cannot support US version one, i did asks my hongkies friends why could not connect to Aus server and they told me its asian version, which is in chinese fonts and the patch version is different from what they told me.
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I have no idea where Torrz brought his orange box, but i could connect anywhere, did he get the game from Software boutique in msia?


yes, i am talking about the server filter, can change to region to Australia server.
click spoiler to see the server image which i had.
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QUOTE(Plant @ Oct 6 2009, 01:49 AM)
Oh left4dead HK version cannot play in Australia region which my hk friends had told me, i have a couple of hk friends who own l4d and cannot play in Australia and I wonder why. Unfortunately in Australia playing tf2 i'd never encounter hk people connecting to oz server, but when i am in msia, i did encounter player from hk.

Hmm... maybe its the version? chinese version l4d cannot support US version one, i did asks my hongkies friends why could not connect to Aus server  and they told me its asian version, which is in chinese fonts and the patch version is different from what they told me.
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I have no idea where Torrz  brought his orange box, but i could connect anywhere, did he get the game from Software boutique in msia?
yes, i am talking about the server filter, can change to region to Australia server.
click spoiler to see the server image which i had.
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Thats getting confusing now.

If im not wrong,my Malaysian friend who got his Orange Box in Aus also cant play it in Malaysia.

Still,for my games,they all can connect to Steam in anywhere i go so far.

I guess you have to ask Torrz when he's here.

Oh,you mean that filter.Im looking at that almost everyday.

I played a lot on 3FL and Internode.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 6 2009, 08:19 AM)
Thats getting confusing now.

If im not wrong,my Malaysian friend who got his Orange Box in Aus also cant play it in Malaysia.

Still,for my games,they all can connect to Steam in anywhere i go so far.

I guess you have to ask Torrz when he's here.

Oh,you mean that filter.Im looking at that almost everyday.

I played a lot on 3FL and Internode.
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thats all right, i am confused too when come to server restriction, i guessing Torrs have different version or he did not set the filter right.

Oh really? buying Aus game cannot play in malaysia.. hmm interesting, i never brought game from Aus beside ps3 games which i abuse the 7days refund policy, furthermore buying game from Aus really expensive, i might as well wait till i go back msia and buy me some original game which cost way lower.


Oh yea i love playing in internode with 24 player, we should play sometime, love playing on weekend, over 300 player playing, fun stuff. wink.gif

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QUOTE(Plant @ Oct 6 2009, 02:09 PM)
thats all right, i am confused too when come to server restriction, i guessing Torrs have different version or he did not set the filter right.

Oh really? buying Aus game cannot play in malaysia.. hmm interesting, i never brought game from Aus beside ps3 games which i abuse the 7days refund policy, furthermore buying game from Aus really expensive, i might as well wait till i go back msia and buy me some original game which cost way lower.
Oh yea i love playing in internode with 24 player, we should play sometime, love playing on weekend, over 300 player playing, fun stuff.  wink.gif
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Sure,we should meet up and play sometime.Whats your Steam id?

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This is great
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Loved the last box.
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i am not really boycotting the game. as the first gameplay doesn't really appeals to me that justifies my RM140. i was just a lil dissapointed because didn't thought of valve would improve the game by using a sequel. laugh.gif it is not really their way of workin stuff.

but still, valve is one of a few great PC developers out there. so i would ask those who really like the first game to buy this too, if you don't mind. I will wait for HL3 and the new IP. laugh.gif
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Gabe is already at Australia!

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/10/07...lia/#more-19203

AAAAaaaaaa! Boycott....if he can go to Australia...why can't he drop by Malaysia!!!!!!!BOYCOTT!!!!!!
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cry all you want and boycotting all you wan Australia
you not gonna get to play it~
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Anyone got extra slot to go in?? doh.gif
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Oct 8 2009, 09:54 AM)
lol-ed at the boomer.. tongue.gif

Btw, friends all FFK-ed me on the 4 pack deal.
Anyone got extra slot to go in?? doh.gif
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re-pm them la
ask them bank in now

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buy both la, apa susah
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mine here remain 1 spot left
take from forumer la
ask them to bank in 1st since its preorder, then onli send them the game
try ask someone u know 1st


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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Oct 8 2009, 12:07 PM)
buy both la, apa susah
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mine here remain 1 spot left
take from forumer la
ask them to bank in 1st since its preorder, then onli send them the game
try ask someone u know 1st
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Oooo new game mode:
Scavenger mode

Sounds great. More competitive modes is always a good thing

Also, "Hey, Freeman, I think you left this back at Black Mesa!"

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QUOTE(JuzJoe @ Oct 8 2009, 03:58 PM)
edi! dont forget about me! count me in!
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wei, get urself more 3 ppl la
u got CC wad... the l4d community so many ppl
poison some to buy

i will drag a few ppl to u or johnny wen my slot was full
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QUOTE(Plant @ Oct 6 2009, 02:09 PM)
thats all right, i am confused too when come to server restriction, i guessing Torrs have different version or he did not set the filter right.

Oh really? buying Aus game cannot play in malaysia.. hmm interesting, i never brought game from Aus beside ps3 games which i abuse the 7days refund policy, furthermore buying game from Aus really expensive, i might as well wait till i go back msia and buy me some original game which cost way lower.
Oh yea i love playing in internode with 24 player, we should play sometime, love playing on weekend, over 300 player playing, fun stuff.  wink.gif
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its like this. the malaysian version is a "localized" version. its meant for sale only in the SEA region, and nowhere else. similar to the thailand USD20 orange box, its not for sale anywhere other than thailand, and won't work anywhere but thailand.

if you buy it on Steam however, in our region since we don't have localized pricing over Steam like how they do in Europe, its considered as buying a US retail license, hence you can use it anywhere in the world, since you're paying US prices. a lot of mumbo jumbo if you ask me, badly executed even though its a good concept that allows people in countries with lower GDP to buy games at lower prices.

and edi, not everyone feels like splurging money on 2 games yo tongue.gif its a matter of preference. I for one, did not even get l4d1 because i didn't feel it was worth the price, and now that l4d2 is coming out, i'll likely only be getting it on 2 conditions:
1. 50% off weekend
2. no l4d3 next year tongue.gif (this of course is also dependent on how they merge the games together). heard some news that they're planning something to enable the l4d1 and l4d2 communities to stay together, if it entails completely scrapping the l4d1 engine and installing the l4d2 engine over it while allowing us to play the old campaigns, then huzzah, i'll be on the bandwagon with y'all soon.

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QUOTE(strife_personified @ Oct 8 2009, 06:40 PM)
2. no l4d3 next year tongue.gif (this of course is also dependent on how they merge the games together). heard some news that they're planning something to enable the l4d1 and l4d2 communities to stay together, if it entails completely scrapping the l4d1 engine and installing the l4d2 engine over it while allowing us to play the old campaigns, then huzzah, i'll be on the bandwagon with y'all soon.
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On this point they say that L4D2 players can seamlessly join L4D games (Assuming they own L4D lar of course). Not sure if it works the other way round.


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ei juzjoe u still got slot?
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QUOTE(strife_personified @ Oct 8 2009, 06:40 PM)
and edi, not everyone feels like splurging money on 2 games yo tongue.gif its a matter of preference. I for one, did not even get l4d1 because i didn't feel it was worth the price, and now that l4d2 is coming out, i'll likely only be getting it on 2 conditions:
1. 50% off weekend
2. no l4d3 next year tongue.gif (this of course is also dependent on how they merge the games together). heard some news that they're planning something to enable the l4d1 and l4d2 communities to stay together, if it entails completely scrapping the l4d1 engine and installing the l4d2 engine over it while allowing us to play the old campaigns, then huzzah, i'll be on the bandwagon with y'all soon.
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Im considering to get L4D2 too,if they remove the ban in Australia,but i'll be buying it on Steam in Malaysia so that no censored stuff on my L4D2,unless they include TF2's melee where after you killed someone,their bodies just fly around like a doll.I actually prefer that over the new limbs dismemberment.

The reason i'll probably get is:
- It's a Valve game and TF2 had surprised me with it's fun and extra contents.
- L4D1 is actually quite decent.
- MW2 isnt looking very good now,with the possible delay(no confirmations yet) and all the videos on a 360 which could mean this game is built up for consoles from ground up. It could be a shitty port and i dont expect a Capcom quality port.
-BFBC2 is next year,which also might turn out shit if they design the game for consoles in mind again.


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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Oct 8 2009, 06:50 PM)
On this point they say that L4D2 players can seamlessly join L4D games (Assuming they own L4D lar of course). Not sure if it works the other way round.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 8 2009, 07:03 PM)
*snip* look above, its all right above this post yo tongue.gif
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well, taking your first point would be the reason the boycotters started their activities in the first place. i dont think i need to elaborate on this, unless anyone wants me to. L4D is a good game, no doubt. i just didn't feel it was worth the price tag. i'll say that i was planning to get it on a discount weekend, except that due to cash constraints i ultimately couldnt, and now that i can, i find myself holding back due to l4d2. i won't say anything on mw2, i havent been following it as religiously as my forays to the cesspool known as the steampowered forums. tongue.gif man, are those people retarded.

as for the merging, there have been loads of ideas thrown around on the steam forums, one of which i pioneered *sticks nose in the air, "you may kiss the ring"* tongue.gif generally i think most people would be happy if they just brought the new engine to l4d1, not like its so radically different. and also perhaps pricing l4d2 a bit more competitively. i'm not going to demand that the game be given freely as DLC, but once again i don't think its going to be worth the price tag. i'll reserve my judgment until i've managed to get my hands on the pre-demo-demo (like i did the last time tongue.gif).

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I know why the boycotters hate L4D2,but the thing is,the shear amount of content in L4D2 couldnt be justified without a sequel.

Thats what the boycotters need to know.It seems like a pretty good looking sequel to me.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 8 2009, 07:03 PM)
Im considering to get L4D2 too,if they remove the ban in Australia,but i'll be buying it on Steam in Malaysia so that no censored stuff on my L4D2,unless they include TF2's melee where after you killed someone,their bodies just fly around like a doll.I actually prefer that over the new limbs dismemberment.

The reason i'll probably get is:
- It's a Valve game and TF2 had surprised me with it's fun and extra contents.
- L4D1 is actually quite decent.
- MW2 isnt looking very good now,with the possible delay(no confirmations yet) and all the videos on a 360 which could mean this game is built up for consoles from ground up. It could be a shitty port and i dont expect a Capcom quality port.
-BFBC2 is next year,which also might turn out shit if they design the game for consoles in mind again.
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I doubt that will work. If a game is banned there you won't be able to play it in Australia. 'This game not available in your region' even if you bought it elsewhere and are trying to launch it.

I heard Valve are reapplying with a censored version for Australia. Which means Australia might get a specific version which I doubt will work in Malaysia.
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I doubt that will work. If a game is banned there you won't be able to play it in Australia. 'This game not available in your region' even if you bought it elsewhere and are trying to launch it.

I heard Valve are reapplying with a censored version for Australia. Which means Australia might get a specific version which I doubt will work in Malaysia.
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Im not sure how it works,but im not gonna get retail here.Im gonna get it straight from Steam where im paying in USD.

Valve is reapplying with a censored version of L4D2.Valve did say that they will patch out the censor later on like Witcher's latest patch.
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Would it be possible to proxy it? hmm.gif

I suppose Steam would identify your region purely from IP address.
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QUOTE(frags @ Oct 8 2009, 07:34 PM)
I doubt that will work. If a game is banned there you won't be able to play it in Australia. 'This game not available in your region' even if you bought it elsewhere and are trying to launch it.

I heard Valve are reapplying with a censored version for Australia. Which means Australia might get a specific version which I doubt will work in Malaysia.
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remind me of the TF2 ver

blood replace with balloon

perhpas something like china censoreship
no more head explode
all blood are in black or white
Cheesenium
post Oct 8 2009, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Oct 8 2009, 07:43 PM)
Would it be possible to proxy it? hmm.gif

I suppose Steam would identify your region purely from IP address.
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No point proxy a game just to play SP.

QUOTE(Edison83 @ Oct 8 2009, 07:49 PM)
remind me of the TF2 ver

blood replace with balloon

perhpas something like china censoreship
no more head explode
all blood are in black or white
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Gawd,i hope thats not true.
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post Oct 8 2009, 07:51 PM

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haha, u can wait all u wan
while we playing and having fun here biggrin.gif
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post Oct 8 2009, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 8 2009, 07:29 PM)
I know why the boycotters hate L4D2,but the thing is,the shear amount of content in L4D2 couldnt be justified without a sequel.

Thats what the boycotters need to know.It seems like a pretty good looking sequel to me.
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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Oct 8 2009, 07:51 PM)
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haha, u can wait all u wan
while we playing and having fun here  biggrin.gif
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thats what i said, in the second paragraph of my post. i for one also understand that content wise in terms of story, voice acting, mapping and what not its sequel worthy. however in terms of game mechanics, it would all be fine if they never made the promise that they'd be adding loads of shit to l4d1. i realize that the argument of "hey, so l4d1 was a beta or something?!" isnt really valid, considering most games would also fall under that accusation (i.e. AC would be the beta of AC2, and so on tongue.gif) it's the fact that valve promised us the moon, and isnt even giving us space dust as a compromise when they realized they couldnt deliver without more moolah. and this isn't even touching the price point of the game.

and lol edi. i'm resourceful enough that i'll have my hands on the game for sure (i'll leave the means of which to your imagination), just that i'm not as sexcited about it as you are tongue.gif
besides, i'm having fun right now in fact, with my most current purchase, SHIFT wink.gif
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post Oct 9 2009, 12:18 AM

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