Stock Market V28, YI FATT = easy rich!!
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 May 28 2009, 02:15 PM, updated 17y ago
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since no one start.. i start again.. hope i can easy rich
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May 28 2009, 02:16 PM
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repost...wonder what happen to that guy who bought 150k of TAWB This post has been edited by moorish: May 28 2009, 02:20 PM |
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May 28 2009, 02:20 PM
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Old version Stock Market V27 http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1035043
V27 no break record already ! This post has been edited by YuNGSeNG: May 28 2009, 02:20 PM |
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May 28 2009, 02:21 PM
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Me here!
Hopefully new thread = ++profits. Dunno wanna cut loss today or hold. |
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May 28 2009, 02:21 PM
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checking in...
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May 28 2009, 02:23 PM
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Yea, checking in spot #6
I hope to break even in V28 This post has been edited by simplesmile: May 28 2009, 02:24 PM |
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this round i wan teh-o-ice limau!
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May 28 2009, 02:26 PM
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易发 checking in!!!
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 02:23 PM) this round i wan teh-o-ice limau! lol.. too "yit hei" already is it? need teh-o-ice limau to cool down.. btw.. this V28 is yee fatt(easy rich).. then V29 is yee kau(can last long = means your profit can last long).. V30 is?  |
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May 28 2009, 02:27 PM
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signing in for YI FAT
Added on May 28, 2009, 2:28 pmlook @ TA-WB.... This post has been edited by virtualgay: May 28 2009, 02:28 PM |
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May 28 2009, 02:28 PM
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it should be "fatt fatt fatt" !
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May 28 2009, 02:28 PM
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any program that can watch stocks real time?
Last time got one small program, just key in the no. of the stock and can show u real time. Can help? |
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May 28 2009, 02:28 PM
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signing in and hope this afternoon will c more blood bath
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May 28 2009, 02:29 PM
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during v24, we all thought doomsay has come, but turn out a mini bull run
during v28, we all think is huat huat huat, but ...  |
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May 28 2009, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(twtang @ May 28 2009, 02:28 PM) any program that can watch stocks real time? apply online trading, can watch stock price real timeLast time got one small program, just key in the no. of the stock and can show u real time. Can help? |
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May 28 2009, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(twtang @ May 28 2009, 02:28 PM) any program that can watch stocks real time? sign up with one brokering firm.. then use their program..Last time got one small program, just key in the no. of the stock and can show u real time. Can help? |
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May 28 2009, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 02:29 PM) during v24, we all thought doomsay has come, but turn out a mini bull run i like the way u think during v28, we all think is huat huat huat, but ... |
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May 28 2009, 02:33 PM
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How those que below 0.005? means free izit?
  I wanna ask my remiser how to Q for free shares This post has been edited by moorish: May 28 2009, 02:34 PM |
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May 28 2009, 02:34 PM
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Maybe we fatt after this dip?  |
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May 28 2009, 02:35 PM
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Reporting in for V28. Hope everyone make big money in version 28!!!
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May 28 2009, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 02:29 PM) during v24, we all thought doomsay has come, but turn out a mini bull run Wahaha, then it will be the 'opposite'! during v28, we all think is huat huat huat, but ... |
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May 28 2009, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 02:34 PM) Maybe we fatt after this dip? time to average down portfolio...once its rebound.. wah.. fat fat fat!!!! anyway what happen to TM anyone can share ar? seems like dropping till no tomorrow... |
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May 28 2009, 02:40 PM
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wah...u all so excited...today no mood la....hai.....
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May 28 2009, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ May 28 2009, 02:40 PM) wah...u all so excited...today no mood la....hai..... why no mood, my friend? |
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May 28 2009, 02:43 PM
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Bloodbath coming
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May 28 2009, 02:44 PM
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TM 2.71 chor
price before cap repayment and dividend pay out is still high... 2.71+0.98+0.145 = RM3.835 and i believe is that people r taking profit... Added on May 28, 2009, 2:45 pm QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 28 2009, 02:43 PM) Bloodbath coming adamG you MIA for few days ar?din see u around in the forum...? This post has been edited by virtualgay: May 28 2009, 02:45 PM |
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May 28 2009, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 27 2009, 11:44 PM) TM 2.71 chor Busy lah, so many clients i need to advise leh....price before cap repayment and dividend pay out is still high... 2.71+0.98+0.145 = RM3.835 and i believe is that people r taking profit... Added on May 28, 2009, 2:45 pm adamG you MIA for few days ar? din see u around in the forum...? |
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May 28 2009, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 02:41 PM) why no mood, my friend? [OT] MU lost lo! hehehe...btw...i haven't received my genting vouchers yet also leh......panasonic giving 90Cents div rite? |
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May 28 2009, 02:47 PM
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Fat Fat Fat me please!
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May 28 2009, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 02:29 PM) during v24, we all thought doomsay has come, but turn out a mini bull run Watch out 10 years US treauries's yield, if surge more than 4%, it just means previous interest rate cut effort down to the drain. during v28, we all think is huat huat huat, but ... If this situation occur, we might have problem then, oil and commodities at high level, treasuries yield also at high level, that's means double trouble for consumers that already facing unemployment risk. |
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May 28 2009, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ May 28 2009, 02:46 PM) [OT] MU lost lo! yup, 90 sens (less 25 tax)hehehe...btw...i haven't received my genting vouchers yet also leh......panasonic giving 90Cents div rite? p/s: we run chicken on good counter again, sigh. This post has been edited by panasonic88: May 28 2009, 02:48 PM |
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May 28 2009, 02:48 PM
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OH Oh~~ nothing special in stock market..
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May 28 2009, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ May 28 2009, 02:46 PM) [OT] MU lost lo! Hahahaha. hehehe...btw...i haven't received my genting vouchers yet also leh......panasonic giving 90Cents div rite? Im busy cancelling order and reordering. Hai...Now cancelled, think maybe I should put it back. Aiyo no mood...  This post has been edited by omores: May 28 2009, 02:49 PM |
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May 28 2009, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 28 2009, 02:43 PM) Bloodbath coming Mandi darah siiookkk yoh! |
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May 28 2009, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 28 2009, 02:47 PM) Watch out 10 years US treauries's yield, if surge more than 4%, it just means previous interest rate cut effort down to the drain. that's why AdamG advised us to LONG commodities? If this situation occur, we might have problem then, oil and commodities at high level, treasuries yield also at high level, that's means double trouble for consumers that already facing unemployment risk. which means, crude oil price will surging? will that bring benefits to plantations? |
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May 28 2009, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ May 28 2009, 02:48 PM) Mandi darah siiookkk yoh! yeii disgusting! i wan to go to spa  |
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May 28 2009, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ May 28 2009, 02:46 PM) [OT] MU lost lo! Always got next year. hehehe...btw...i haven't received my genting vouchers yet also leh......panasonic giving 90Cents div rite? Yup, 35 cents + 55 cents. This year 105 cents total. Lastest profit figure down quite a lot, a bit worry for next year special dividend will be cut severely. Still at 50 cents dividend, it is 2x better than FD. It is free stock now if hold more than 10 years or so, the power of dividend. |
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May 28 2009, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 27 2009, 11:49 PM) that's why AdamG advised us to LONG commodities? Then the fed has no choice but to expand its balance sheet, buying more T bills. which means, crude oil price will surging? will that bring benefits to plantations? The Fed is now in a dilemma. Watch out, hyper inflation coming Dorab Mistry , the famous vege oil specialist say CPO might hit 3000 in one month. Added on May 28, 2009, 2:57 pmPlease visit my Twitter page for market update, minute per minute. Thanks. This post has been edited by AdamG1981: May 28 2009, 02:57 PM |
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May 28 2009, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 28 2009, 02:55 PM) Then the fed has no choice but to expand its balance sheet, buying more T bills. is this a good news for my mr.IOI? The Fed is now in a dilemma. Watch out, hyper inflation coming Dorab Mistry , the famous vege oil specialist say CPO might hit 3000 in one month. Added on May 28, 2009, 2:57 pmPlease visit my Twitter page for market update, minute per minute. Thanks. |
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May 28 2009, 02:59 PM
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Yes, good news in short run, but remember rapid rise will bring about rapid decline.
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May 28 2009, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 02:49 PM) that's why AdamG advised us to LONG commodities? It is a difficult catch right now. We don't know where the economy is heading, and situation of consumers and stimulus effort, recover is intact or not. That's why market is flat and nor moving much and stuck in tight range.which means, crude oil price will surging? will that bring benefits to plantations? Commodities surging lately is not due to demand picking up (instead demand is still in shrinking or flatting scenario) but due to speculation and hedging of cheap money around. Ordinary or plantation company will benefit if high price x high amount sales = total revenue. But you have high price but low amount of sales at the moment, then goodness of high price might not total benefitting the plantation company. You previously monthly sales is Rm1.00 x 10,000 items = 10K and with cost at 0.90, so profit 1K Now price become 2.00 but cost become 1.80 (due to oil price rising blar blar) and with loweer item sales of 5K unit, so you still make the same profit of 1K. So in this kind of scenario, company didn't benefit from the higher price, eventually share price might not move much. |
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May 28 2009, 03:01 PM
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TM nut.. dying painfully and slowly. Haih...
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May 28 2009, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 28 2009, 03:01 PM) TM nut.. dying painfully and slowly. Haih... Haih, i got 250k shares... cant even afford to average down, cos need at least RM50k to make a difference in average price. |
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May 28 2009, 03:05 PM
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market like now, sell oso wrong, buy oso wrong.
kek sim! |
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May 28 2009, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 28 2009, 03:01 PM) TM nut.. dying painfully and slowly. Haih... its not dying, just resting... since last few weeks run too hard liao... Added on May 28, 2009, 3:06 pm QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 03:05 PM) market like now, sell oso wrong, buy oso wrong. agree, but selling 50% resort on 2.72 kek sim! This post has been edited by jgchoo: May 28 2009, 03:06 PM |
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May 28 2009, 03:07 PM
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PKFZ report going to come up soon, 3.30 pm. Will this affect the market? I think will be quite bad... tales of corruption anyways...
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May 28 2009, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 03:07 PM) PKFZ report going to come up soon, 3.30 pm. Will this affect the market? I think will be quite bad... tales of corruption anyways... wat report is tat?? sounds dodgy |
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May 28 2009, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 03:07 PM) PKFZ report going to come up soon, 3.30 pm. Will this affect the market? I think will be quite bad... tales of corruption anyways... what is PKFZ? |
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May 28 2009, 03:08 PM
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No volume in cash market. Dow futures +12
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May 28 2009, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 03:05 PM) market like now, sell oso wrong, buy oso wrong. Then sitting in the middle doing nothing must be right liao, can't all three also wrong kua. Added on May 28, 2009, 3:10 pm QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 28 2009, 03:08 PM) what is PKFZ? So big issue, don' know meh.Port Kelang Free Zone (something like that). This post has been edited by cherroy: May 28 2009, 03:10 PM |
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May 28 2009, 03:11 PM
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PKFZ, port klang free zone. First project supposed to cost only 2.5 billion, then 4.3 billion, then now they say need 12 billion due to interest rates.
Ong Tee Keat on hot stones because he supposedly try to delay showing the reports 2 weeks or 1 month back. |
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May 28 2009, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 28 2009, 02:51 PM) Always got next year. cherroy, how to convert it to dividend in RM if i hold 1000 shares Yup, 35 cents + 55 cents. This year 105 cents total. Lastest profit figure down quite a lot, a bit worry for next year special dividend will be cut severely. Still at 50 cents dividend, it is 2x better than FD. It is free stock now if hold more than 10 years or so, the power of dividend.  |
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May 28 2009, 03:12 PM
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Damn Maybank really went down to RM5! I didn't even check cos I tot won't get. Alyo, match adee my order
 Hey, where got go down to 5? at most 5.10 only mah. ***, and only 10 lots matched. Someone playing tricks again. AIYO, really irritated by the stupid irritating ppl who do odd lots. This post has been edited by omores: May 28 2009, 03:14 PM |
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May 28 2009, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(protonw @ May 28 2009, 03:11 PM) cherroy, how to convert it to dividend in RM if i hold 1000 shares Don't need convert lah.Just sitting at home, waiting the snail mail that got cheque inside sending to you, aka doing nothing. |
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May 28 2009, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(protonw @ May 28 2009, 03:11 PM) cherroy, how to convert it to dividend in RM if i hold 1000 shares 1000 share get rm900 dividend before tax |
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May 28 2009, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 03:12 PM) Damn Maybank really went down to RM5! I didn't even check cos I tot won't get. Alyo, match adee my order good la... average down ma... |
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May 28 2009, 03:14 PM
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Omores, your orders all done.
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May 28 2009, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 03:12 PM) Damn Maybank really went down to RM5! I didn't even check cos I tot won't get. Alyo, match adee my order how to buy @ 5 when market is 5.1? can sell me some? Hey, where got go down to 5? at most 5.10 only mah. ***, and only 10 lots matched. Someone playing tricks again. AIYO, really irritated by the stupid irritating ppl who do odd lots.  |
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May 28 2009, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 03:12 PM) Damn Maybank really went down to RM5! I didn't even check cos I tot won't get. Alyo, match adee my order Maybank got 5.00 today? I taught 5.10 is the lowest trade until now, or my computer screen wrongly liao. |
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May 28 2009, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 03:12 PM) Damn Maybank really went down to RM5! I didn't even check cos I tot won't get. Alyo, match adee my order i tot u queue at 4.90?Hey, where got go down to 5? at most 5.10 only mah. ***, and only 10 lots matched. Someone playing tricks again. AIYO, really irritated by the stupid irritating ppl who do odd lots. lowest 5.10 only mah. ala hantu? |
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May 28 2009, 03:16 PM
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PKFZ report? sure cover up again la..what do u expect
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May 28 2009, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 03:15 PM) i tot u queue at 4.90? One stupid idiot sell 10 lots for 5 to bring down share price. And I got it... lowest 5.10 only mah. ala hantu? But still i hate these idiots, cos cause me a scare... Added on May 28, 2009, 3:18 pm QUOTE(harrychoo @ May 28 2009, 03:16 PM) PKFZ report? sure cover up again la..what do u expect Cabinet approved already. 10 more minutes for it to be announced.This post has been edited by omores: May 28 2009, 03:18 PM |
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May 28 2009, 03:18 PM
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any one holding SCOMI???
Scomi closer to US$3b Bahrain monorail job <-- this news gonna move the counter up or not?? |
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May 28 2009, 03:18 PM
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aiii long day to go.
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May 28 2009, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 03:17 PM) One stupid idiot sell 10 lots for 5 to bring down share price. And I got it... Lowest trade today is 5.10, you got matched done on 5.00??But still i hate these idiots, cos cause me a scare... |
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May 28 2009, 03:20 PM
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knm is trying very hard to climb back. ho ho ho...
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May 28 2009, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 28 2009, 03:19 PM) Lowest trade today is 5.10, you got matched done on 5.00?? Yup, lucky the stock price went up to 5.15. I hope the dude regret it.This post has been edited by omores: May 28 2009, 03:21 PM |
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May 28 2009, 03:20 PM
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Every month, you'll hear Scomi wins project. Somehow the price doesn't reflect it... Anyway, I got some Scomi for long term.
QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 28 2009, 03:18 PM) any one holding SCOMI??? Scomi closer to US$3b Bahrain monorail job <-- this news gonna move the counter up or not?? |
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May 28 2009, 03:21 PM
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i dont mind getting maybank at 5.00
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May 28 2009, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(freddie @ May 28 2009, 03:21 PM) i dont mind getting maybank at 5.00 I know, why im angry is because i dont like ppl to manipulate the price like that, trying to bring down maybank, cos I have it already. I think im gonna queue somemore at 4.90, maybe can get another 10 lots. Hehehe. |
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May 28 2009, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 03:20 PM) Yup, lucky the stock price went up to 5.15. I still fail to comprehend, may be something wrong with the price qoute as we can't find any transaction done at 5.00 based on stock tracker activities. Lowest transaction done I can see from my side is 5.10, there is no 5.00 being matched. I hope the dude regret it.Or something wrong with the stock tracker? |
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May 28 2009, 03:24 PM
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Long at your own risk. Tonight new home sales.
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May 28 2009, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 03:18 PM) aiii long day to go. make it two teo-o-ice-limau (Kurang Manis)1 more teh-o-ice limao. |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 28 2009, 03:23 PM) I still fail to comprehend, may be something wrong with the price qoute as we can't find any transaction done at 5.00 based on stock tracker activities. Lowest transaction done I can see from my side is 5.10, there is no 5.00 being matched. same here. i dun see any 4.90 nor 5.00 transactions.Or something wrong with the stock tracker? my system got hantu?!  QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 28 2009, 03:24 PM) Long at your own risk. Tonight new home sales. ahhh manyak stress! everyday oso have something to "chi kek" the market. |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 28 2009, 03:23 PM) I still fail to comprehend, may be something wrong with the price qoute as we can't find any transaction done at 5.00 based on stock tracker activities. Lowest transaction done I can see from my side is 5.10, there is no 5.00 being matched. I clicked and clicked and refreshed the order status. Seriously, I queued for 50 lots of maybank at 5.00 to average up and increase my holdings cos i believe maybank will have good earning by next quarter. My average is 4.42.Or something wrong with the stock tracker? Now on my order status, unmatched quantity is 4000 shares. So that means I get 10 lots at below market price. |
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May 28 2009, 03:28 PM
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I q tgoff 4 lot at 1.330
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May 28 2009, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 03:27 PM) I clicked and clicked and refreshed the order status. Seriously, I queued for 50 lots of maybank at 5.00 to average up and increase my holdings cos i believe maybank will have good earning by next quarter. My average is 4.42. like that i also wanna queue more....Now on my order status, unmatched quantity is 4000 shares. So that means I get 10 lots at below market price. just queue and some dude will sell below market price... Added on May 28, 2009, 3:29 pm QUOTE(moorish @ May 28 2009, 03:28 PM) I q tgoff 4 lot at 1.330 4 lot ma lose comission?This post has been edited by virtualgay: May 28 2009, 03:29 PM |
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May 28 2009, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 28 2009, 03:28 PM) I q tgoff 4 lot at 1.330 wow you 1st ever non-warrant related stock now pun sula 1.33, order matched? This post has been edited by panasonic88: May 28 2009, 03:30 PM |
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May 28 2009, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 28 2009, 03:28 PM) like that i also wanna queue more.... no la...got lose commision?just queue and some dude will sell below market price... Added on May 28, 2009, 3:29 pm 4 lot ma lose comission? QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 03:29 PM) wow you 1st ever non-warrant related stock thank you thank you I apply for more cash to buy better stock mah just got approved. |
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May 28 2009, 03:31 PM
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KUALA LUMPUR: Government revises downwards GDP to between minus 4% and minus 5% for 2009 from earlier minus 1% to 1% after 1Q GDP shrank a worst-than-expected 6.2%.
On May 27, Bank Negara said the Malaysian economy contracted 6.2% on-year in the first quarter of 2009, the worst since the Asian financial crisis, as manufacturing output shrank sharply as exports and industrial production fell. Manufacturing contracted 17.6%, mining fell 5.2% while agriculture saw a 4.3% decline. Services also showed a decline of 0.1% but construction rose just 0.6%. News flash on edge. What this mean? Are they talking about overall GDP? So they say 2nd half would not recover as they say yesterday? Stupid la. |
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May 28 2009, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 03:29 PM) wow you 1st ever non-warrant related stock hahaha... i thought she is a warrant queue in this forum???now pun sula 1.33, order matched? |
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May 28 2009, 03:31 PM
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Seems like a lot of people jump to REITs today. Most of the REITs are green today!
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May 28 2009, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 03:27 PM) I clicked and clicked and refreshed the order status. Seriously, I queued for 50 lots of maybank at 5.00 to average up and increase my holdings cos i believe maybank will have good earning by next quarter. My average is 4.42. omores, you think its good to pick up TM now? I mean for long term keeping.Now on my order status, unmatched quantity is 4000 shares. So that means I get 10 lots at below market price. Added on May 28, 2009, 3:34 pm QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 28 2009, 03:31 PM) hahaha... i thought she is a warrant queue in this forum??? dun wan warrant edi la, see both my warrant each lose RM500, but I'm still Queuing for TAWB  This post has been edited by moorish: May 28 2009, 03:34 PM |
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May 28 2009, 03:34 PM
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Yes, internal demand still weak mah...stock market too hot recently, only pricing in expectations, not fundamentals.
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May 28 2009, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 03:27 PM) I clicked and clicked and refreshed the order status. Seriously, I queued for 50 lots of maybank at 5.00 to average up and increase my holdings cos i believe maybank will have good earning by next quarter. My average is 4.42. Did your system show "matched" at 5.00?Now on my order status, unmatched quantity is 4000 shares. So that means I get 10 lots at below market price. If there is a matched order/transaction at 5.00. Stock qoute lowest should be shown 5.00, not 5.10 like now. There is no such thing of getting below market price, only got transacted price. aka there is once transaction being done, be it 5.00 or 4.80. This post has been edited by cherroy: May 28 2009, 03:37 PM |
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May 28 2009, 03:35 PM
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Adam today so free?
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May 28 2009, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 28 2009, 03:32 PM) omores, you think its good to pick up TM now? I mean for long term keeping. Seeing how volatile it is, dont sailang at once. Go 30% of amount you want at current price, 30% lower and 40% lower. If drop more, your ave is lower, if higher you dont miss the boat.Yes, its a good stock for long term speaking. Of course, don't put all eggs in one basket. So buy some TM, and have some in other defensive stocks that are capable of capital growth, reits for instance. |
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May 28 2009, 03:36 PM
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FREE. Today the entire gang shorted...of course free...lmao......
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May 28 2009, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 28 2009, 03:36 PM) FREE. Today the entire gang shorted...of course free...lmao...... If you are free, that means really not much people goreng stock lo...  |
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May 28 2009, 03:40 PM
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Want to ask people who use technical analysis.
Is candlestick charting effective in predicting futures and individual stock prices? Or its more effective in futures? Or its more effective in individual stocks? Or same effectiveness for both? |
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May 28 2009, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 28 2009, 12:37 AM) If you are free, that means really not much people goreng stock lo... My clients are bearish. If CI doesnt close above 40, the bearish momentum should continueAdded on May 28, 2009, 3:40 pm QUOTE(simplesmile @ May 28 2009, 12:40 AM) Want to ask people who use technical analysis. Need to use more than just candle. Is candlestick charting effective in predicting futures and individual stock prices? Or its more effective in futures? Or its more effective in individual stocks? Or same effectiveness for both? This post has been edited by AdamG1981: May 28 2009, 03:40 PM |
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May 28 2009, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 28 2009, 03:34 PM) Did your system show "matched" at 5.00? My Ambank one shows unmatched quantity instead of matched. So when all matched, the unmatched quantity becomes 0. If there is a matched order/transaction at 5.00. Stock qoute lowest should be shown 5.00, not 5.10 like now. There is no such thing of getting below market price, only got transacted price. aka there is once transaction being done, be it 5.00 or 4.80. Anyways, called up my remisier. Obviously didn't get la cos I'm not a lucky person my maybank at 5.00.  . Something wrong with my tracker. Gonna close and restart again. Sigh, all the happiness and excitement for nothing. This post has been edited by omores: May 28 2009, 03:47 PM |
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May 28 2009, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 28 2009, 03:40 PM) My clients are bearish. If CI doesnt close above 40, the bearish momentum should continue For now.. I only know candle.Added on May 28, 2009, 3:40 pm Need to use more than just candle. So, I'm wondering if it's useful or not to use candlesticks for buying stocks... because the book I'm reading, almost all the candlecharts refer to commodities, futures and forex. |
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May 28 2009, 03:43 PM
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Let's hope that today CI will be above 1040.
Tomorrow morning need to go pay my counter. |
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May 28 2009, 03:43 PM
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sigh... my counters still in the red.
Eh, i'm using pivot point charting. is this sufficient? wanna include macd and candlesticks now. sorry ar.. newbie here. just started around march. now getting burned by what appears to be a downtrend. |
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May 28 2009, 03:44 PM
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Candle + chart patterns + volume combi quite accurate. You can use oscillators + divergence for more precise entry and exit; depending on TF. You may also want to consider pivot points and SRs.
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May 28 2009, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 03:31 PM) KUALA LUMPUR: Government revises downwards GDP to between minus 4% and minus 5% for 2009 from earlier minus 1% to 1% after 1Q GDP shrank a worst-than-expected 6.2%. Yes this is their revision for the 2009 GDP. This means they think the recovery in the 2nd half will be very mild but still negative compared qoq and yoy as total.On May 27, Bank Negara said the Malaysian economy contracted 6.2% on-year in the first quarter of 2009, the worst since the Asian financial crisis, as manufacturing output shrank sharply as exports and industrial production fell. Manufacturing contracted 17.6%, mining fell 5.2% while agriculture saw a 4.3% decline. Services also showed a decline of 0.1% but construction rose just 0.6%. News flash on edge. What this mean? Are they talking about overall GDP? So they say 2nd half would not recover as they say yesterday? Stupid la. |
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May 28 2009, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(Terel @ May 28 2009, 03:43 PM) sigh... my counters still in the red. Mine is very red. i think a lot of ppl face oso la. Eh, i'm using pivot point charting. is this sufficient? wanna include macd and candlesticks now. sorry ar.. newbie here. just started around march. now getting burned by what appears to be a downtrend. Well don't worry, will go up again. Be zen.Update: Since i cancelled my TA q at 1.01 and dont feel like re q-ing back at that price since I will be behind everyone else, i decided to q 200 lots at 0.995. |
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May 28 2009, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(Terel @ May 28 2009, 03:43 PM) sigh... my counters still in the red. At least my counter still appear green, yet lower than my TP.Eh, i'm using pivot point charting. is this sufficient? wanna include macd and candlesticks now. sorry ar.. newbie here. just started around march. now getting burned by what appears to be a downtrend. |
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May 28 2009, 03:47 PM
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Dow futures 1 hr chart showing M , triple top. Get ready for bloodbath
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May 28 2009, 03:47 PM
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Worst volume in 4-5 months or more..
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May 28 2009, 03:47 PM
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ish... -9.00
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May 28 2009, 03:49 PM
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haha, my fren just got TA-WB @ 0.005 and sold half @ 0.01. Lucky him...
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May 28 2009, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 03:47 PM) ish... -9.00 Cool down, what goes up will come down.... Just keep the stock and consider it as investment. |
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May 28 2009, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 28 2009, 03:49 PM) haha, my fren just got TA-WB @ 0.005 and sold half @ 0.01. Lucky him... earn 100% lo.. damn!!!!this kinda money is dangerous la... i dare not earn... |
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May 28 2009, 03:50 PM
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wah.....so red wor..my appetite is back liao
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May 28 2009, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 28 2009, 03:49 PM) haha, my fren just got TA-WB @ 0.005 and sold half @ 0.01. Lucky him... So 1 half is nearly free la. Good lo. But I admire you guys for being risk takers. I wouldnt dare to do such things... |
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May 28 2009, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ May 28 2009, 03:47 PM) Worst volume in 4-5 months or more.. Yes the volume is pathetic isn't it. Wonder where everyone is hiding.My Pelikan still up though...  Everything else is red.... |
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May 28 2009, 03:52 PM
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guys... AXIATA kena bashing today la... pity lo...
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May 28 2009, 03:53 PM
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huaan, either the sharks no more bullets to grab this counter, or they have already unloaded and left. Which is more likely?
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May 28 2009, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ May 28 2009, 03:52 PM) Yes the volume is pathetic isn't it. Wonder where everyone is hiding. low volume meaning drop even faster...My Pelikan still up though... Everything else is red.... |
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May 28 2009, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 28 2009, 03:49 PM) haha, my fren just got TA-WB @ 0.005 and sold half @ 0.01. Lucky him... wah so lucky, mine still duno whereMy tgoff got 600unit only |
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May 28 2009, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ May 28 2009, 03:53 PM) huaan, either the sharks no more bullets to grab this counter, or they have already unloaded and left. Which is more likely? As said, they are waiting for mega sales. Now only sales... |
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May 28 2009, 03:54 PM
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May 28 2009, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 28 2009, 03:53 PM) low volume meaning drop even faster... That's right - good job we're in it for the long term |
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May 28 2009, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 03:54 PM) As said, they are waiting for mega sales. Now only sales... Mega sale..... normally the price is being topup 20% before giving 15% mega sales wor... |
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May 28 2009, 03:56 PM
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me waiting for 2nd June cause 1st June US GM declare Bankcrupcy.. then US share drop like mad.. then sure malaysia also drop like mad.. by that time i think is time to have Mid Year Sales + Mega Sales + Warehouse Sales + Factory Direct Sales + ALL SORT OF SALES!!!
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May 28 2009, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 28 2009, 03:34 PM) Did your system show "matched" at 5.00? somebody manipulate If there is a matched order/transaction at 5.00. Stock qoute lowest should be shown 5.00, not 5.10 like now. There is no such thing of getting below market price, only got transacted price. aka there is once transaction being done, be it 5.00 or 4.80.  |
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May 28 2009, 03:57 PM
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Anyone has moved to blue chip?
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May 28 2009, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 28 2009, 03:56 PM) me waiting for 2nd June cause 1st June US GM declare Bankcrupcy.. then US share drop like mad.. then sure malaysia also drop like mad.. by that time i think is time to have Mid Year Sales + Mega Sales + Warehouse Sales + Factory Direct Sales + ALL SORT OF SALES!!! Aiya, enter into bankruptcy protection doesn't means will 100% go bankrupt one... |
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May 28 2009, 03:59 PM
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If tomorrow still same, will consider cut lost and get money back.
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May 28 2009, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 28 2009, 03:59 PM) If tomorrow still same, will consider cut lost and get money back. then monday market up |
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May 28 2009, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ May 28 2009, 03:58 PM) Aiya, enter into bankruptcy protection doesn't means will 100% go bankrupt one... impact is there for sure.. and GM has so many company which depend on it... so all GM supplier will also be impacted...is something like a chain reaction.... 2nd June KLSE ULTRA SALES!!! Mark my word! |
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May 28 2009, 04:01 PM
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Actually, I have a theory that this reversal is good for those of us holding beta/penny stocks - i.e. not Blue Chip. This is because the recent run up to 1050+ was on the back (largely) of the Blue Chips and if the index drops and takes those back down with it, then the next rally may help those of us with beta/penny stocks rather than the premier counters.
Anyway, that's my excuse - and I'm sticking to it. |
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May 28 2009, 04:03 PM
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just sold half of my resort @ 2.72... but keep raising..
come back down~!!! |
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May 28 2009, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 28 2009, 03:56 PM) Mega sale..... normally the price is being topup 20% before giving 15% mega sales wor... What do you think happend the last few days/few weeks? KLCI went up from 1000-105+ in few days days. |
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May 28 2009, 04:04 PM
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a noob ques.... how to determine a counter is bluechip?
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May 28 2009, 04:06 PM
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FKLI down down down. Hehehe, shorted 6 lots earlier.
Still no news on PKFZ. I think maybe just now got press conference and media instructed to publish news after trading hours... This post has been edited by omores: May 28 2009, 04:08 PM |
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May 28 2009, 04:07 PM
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1 more noob question, how to play index?
like stock? how much to play? |
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May 28 2009, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 04:03 PM) What do you think happend the last few days/few weeks? Let's say... Coming down from 1050+ to 1020, then starting of mega sales? KLCI went up from 1000-105+ in few days days. |
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May 28 2009, 04:10 PM
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all red... made my hand itchy....
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May 28 2009, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(jgchoo @ May 28 2009, 04:10 PM) all red... made my hand itchy.... can buy batch by batch, like what omores said.today buy some, tomolo down again, buy some. so you wouldnt miss any rebound opportunity. |
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May 28 2009, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 28 2009, 04:08 PM) Let's say... Coming down from 1050+ to 1020, then starting of mega sales? Better ask Adam that. I judge based on news and fundamentals, i have no inkling of tech charts. For me, mega sales shud be between 1020 and lower. But that's my opinion, anyhow I'm trying to average down bit by bit already as my stocks already drop 7% and more, but still no fish catching my bait. Added on May 28, 2009, 4:13 pm QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 04:11 PM) can buy batch by batch, like what omores said. Yup, if a stock u've been watching has dropped quite a bit, start buying bit by bit lor. Tomorrow may drop somemore, so save more money to buy more tomorrow. 30%, 30%, 40% (more in front to ensure don't miss boat), or you can go 20%, 30%, 50% (lowest average price possible).today buy some, tomolo down again, buy some. so you wouldnt miss any rebound opportunity. This post has been edited by omores: May 28 2009, 04:13 PM |
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May 28 2009, 04:14 PM
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What if tomorrow N.Korea declare war on S.Korea?
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May 28 2009, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 28 2009, 04:14 PM) What if tomorrow N.Korea declare war on S.Korea? All week next week will be sales. |
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May 28 2009, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 28 2009, 04:14 PM) What if tomorrow N.Korea declare war on S.Korea? Then the US will rally and out of recession, because they are a war economy. |
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May 28 2009, 04:17 PM
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Better be watchful of 2 more market moving announcement from US this week,
- Durable Goods order tonight - GDP on Fri These are pretty impactful announcement to the stock market. |
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May 28 2009, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 04:15 PM) All week next week will be sales. Good for the sharks; I'm mini ikan bilis.Still waiting for Resorts to confirm in going to Macau. |
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May 28 2009, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 04:15 PM) All week next week will be sales. N. Korea weapon going to expire soon? they want war to dispose all their missile? y this ppl luv war so much??? play PC Command and conquer- RED alert la, dun need to sac ppl life  |
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May 28 2009, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(Suicider @ May 28 2009, 04:17 PM) Better be watchful of 2 more market moving announcement from US this week, aiyor then we'll see DJIA at 8,000 or below. KLCI at 1,000 or below jor.- Durable Goods order tonight - GDP on Fri These are pretty impactful announcement to the stock market. stress stresss stresssss!!! |
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May 28 2009, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 28 2009, 04:14 PM) What if tomorrow N.Korea declare war on S.Korea? Ok better reply. Cos I had to check my post last night for this.But be worried only when relations become more strained. So far, the best possible news we can get out of it, is if the 5 countries involved with talks with Korea agree to let China take the lead. Now N. Korea screaming for attention. 1. Kim Jong Il is sick, needs to prove that N. Korea is still here and everyone else better know it. 2. N Koreans are going hungry due to all the sanctions. Even with the 1953 treaty, US and everyone else except China have been pushing them too hard. That's why the lastest nuclear test is so extreme and that they say the 1953 treaty is over. Provocation ma. It's a call for attention towards their plight. Risk/and signs to look out for 3. The line has been crossed. N. Korea sees no end to their plight ang go ahead with destruction. After all, they are a cornered country with nothing to lose. 4. If US still wanna play hardball and do something stupid. |
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May 28 2009, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ May 28 2009, 04:19 PM) N. Korea weapon going to expire soon? they want war to dispose all their missile? North Korean actually a bnkrupt state, only way to get cash is to threaten or frighten its neighbours into submission by giving food Aid or putting money in their pockets... so that Mr Kim can afford to buy a few more Mercs and travel the world... y this ppl luv war so much??? play PC Command and conquer- RED alert la, dun need to sac ppl life i think the previously when N.Koreans tested theuir nukes, the world markets were put in shock... but after so many threats (waving fist but no action)... more or less the market is immuned. |
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ May 28 2009, 04:01 PM) Actually, I have a theory that this reversal is good for those of us holding beta/penny stocks - i.e. not Blue Chip. This is because the recent run up to 1050+ was on the back (largely) of the Blue Chips and if the index drops and takes those back down with it, then the next rally may help those of us with beta/penny stocks rather than the premier counters. I don't think so. Usually rally starts with blue chip, and ends with lousy counters. Then if unluckily market cannot sustain, lousy counters will go down very fast first.....follow by blue chip. Anyway, this is my theory only. But I remember a lot of times it is like thisAnyway, that's my excuse - and I'm sticking to it. |
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May 28 2009, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 04:23 PM) Ok better reply. Cos I had to check my post last night for this. the only country that would probably lose out the most is China (since they are since as kawan, potentially China also has the most influence over N.Korea) doubtful they will go to the extent of all our war.But be worried only when relations become more strained. So far, the best possible news we can get out of it, is if the 5 countries involved with talks with Korea agree to let China take the lead. Now N. Korea screaming for attention. 1. Kim Jong Il is sick, needs to prove that N. Korea is still here and everyone else better know it. 2. N Koreans are going hungry due to all the sanctions. Even with the 1953 treaty, US and everyone else except China have been pushing them too hard. That's why the lastest nuclear test is so extreme and that they say the 1953 treaty is over. Provocation ma. It's a call for attention towards their plight. Risk/and signs to look out for 3. The line has been crossed. N. Korea sees no end to their plight ang go ahead with destruction. After all, they are a cornered country with nothing to lose. 4. If US still wanna play hardball and do something stupid. |
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May 28 2009, 04:25 PM
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@aurora
your TM 2.91 @ 5000 shares, still holding? no one would thought it would lembik and went down hor. |
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May 28 2009, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ May 28 2009, 04:24 PM) the only country that would probably lose out the most is China (since they are since as kawan, potentially China also has the most influence over N.Korea) doubtful they will go to the extent of all our war. No N. Korea won't harm China unless they feel truly betray by China. Their first point of attack will be S. Korea via land forces and Nuclear Strike towards Hawaii or American base in Japan? This post has been edited by omores: May 28 2009, 04:27 PM |
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May 28 2009, 04:26 PM
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force selling coming..
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May 28 2009, 04:27 PM
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hold tight, hold tight.
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May 28 2009, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 04:25 PM) @aurora still holding my, planning to accumulate more and to lower my Avg price from current 3.22... now i got 15K your TM 2.91 @ 5000 shares, still holding? no one would thought it would lembik and went down hor. 5K = 2.95 5K = 3.84 5K = 2.9 Avg price = 3.22 |
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May 28 2009, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 04:25 PM) @aurora I got 8000 @ 2.83. Will cut loss some, hold some. T+3 Coming Friday, ie. tomolo..your TM 2.91 @ 5000 shares, still holding? no one would thought it would lembik and went down hor. |
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May 28 2009, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 28 2009, 04:18 PM) Good for the sharks; I'm mini ikan bilis. I have been to macau, even though there are lots of tourist/gambler, there are too many Casinos fight over each other for their money, so the Genting rumor while good for short term hype/goreng might not be too healthy in the long run. Still waiting for Resorts to confirm in going to Macau. |
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May 28 2009, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 28 2009, 04:27 PM) I got 8000 @ 2.83. Will cut loss some, hold some. T+3 Coming Friday, ie. tomolo.. TM is good to hold very defensive stock i think... 2.33 is excluding dividend and cap repayment collect yummmy |
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May 28 2009, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ May 28 2009, 04:27 PM) still holding my, planning to accumulate more and to lower my Avg price from current 3.22... now i got 15K RM 48k on TM, woot!5K = 2.95 5K = 3.84 5K = 2.9 Avg price = 3.22 |
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May 28 2009, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 28 2009, 04:27 PM) I got 8000 @ 2.83. Will cut loss some, hold some. T+3 Coming Friday, ie. tomolo.. not intend to pick up ka? |
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May 28 2009, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 04:28 PM) RM 48k on TM, woot! i still got extra funds to pump, but only to buy an additional 5K TM..now TM very liquid... but this stock must watch closely ... From previous experience someone will pull the price down alot ... i think drop till at least 2.2- to 2.5 before seeing a reversal and spike all the way up above 3. Axreit is moving up 1.46 |
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May 28 2009, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(PBB boleh @ May 28 2009, 04:28 PM) I have been to macau, even though there are lots of tourist/gambler, there are too many Casinos fight over each other for their money, so the Genting rumor while good for short term hype/goreng might not be too healthy in the long run. Had posted before on this issue.Overseas casinos are not as profitable as like Resorts due to competition and high initial set up cost. In fact, none of Genting overseas venture on gaming business like Star-Cruise, UK casinos are yielding any fruit instead they are burden of the company, at least since acquisition until now. |
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May 28 2009, 04:31 PM
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CI going to be -10....
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May 28 2009, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 28 2009, 04:26 PM) force selling coming.. Means what?Everyday at 4:30pm will have force selling? |
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May 28 2009, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ May 28 2009, 04:31 PM) i still got extra funds to pump, but only to buy an additional 5K TM.. I intend to buy more TM. So going down is a good news to me now TM very liquid... but this stock must watch closely ... From previous experience someone will pull the price down alot ... i think drop till at least 2.2- to 2.5 before seeing a reversal and spike all the way up above 3. Axreit is moving up 1.46. Will heed your advice and look forward 2.20 |
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May 28 2009, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 04:28 PM) RM 48k on TM, woot! sei fat = die rich =  |
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May 28 2009, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ May 28 2009, 04:32 PM) I intend to buy more TM. So going down is a good news to me i queue @ 2.60 dont know can be done by today or not.... Will heed your advice and look forward 2.20 |
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May 28 2009, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 28 2009, 04:31 PM) Had posted before on this issue. At least RESORTS will try to squeeze some juice out to breakeven point before selling the business. Everyone will try to make money from investing.Overseas casinos are not as profitable as like Resorts due to competition and high initial set up cost. In fact, none of Genting overseas venture on gaming business like Star-Cruise, UK casinos are yielding any fruit instead they are burden of the company, at least since acquisition until now. Just hope for the best. This post has been edited by cliffang83: May 28 2009, 04:35 PM |
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May 28 2009, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ May 28 2009, 04:32 PM) I intend to buy more TM. So going down is a good news to me i think TM has long term potentials.... Will heed your advice and look forward 2.20 only problem is one must have: 1. freaking super patience to play this counter 2. nerves of steel 3. and good holding power. |
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May 28 2009, 04:36 PM
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I no luck la, meet my q at 1.330 then 10 mins drop 1.300
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May 28 2009, 04:37 PM
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drop somemoaaaarrr, market oversold, then we can hope for a rebound.
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May 28 2009, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ May 28 2009, 04:35 PM) i think TM has long term potentials... Suits me lo. Since I dun like to speculate, and I like company that do monopoly business. After I buy a lot at less than RM2.50, let see TM at RM10 + 10% div yield only problem is one must have: 1. freaking super patience to play this counter 2. nerves of steel 3. and good holding power. LOlz |
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May 28 2009, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 04:37 PM) drop somemoaaaarrr, market oversold, then we can hope for a rebound. keep dropping... faster drop... |
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May 28 2009, 04:39 PM
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the market going to be over sold soon i think it hase been 3 day red hehehe
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May 28 2009, 04:39 PM
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With CI near -10...
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May 28 2009, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ May 28 2009, 04:38 PM) Suits me lo. Since I dun like to speculate, and I like company that do monopoly business. After I buy a lot at less than RM2.50, let see TM at RM10 + 10% div yield manyak big appetite, lol LOlz TM just gave capital repayment, do u guys think he could be generous in his dividend anymore? like Jtinter case. |
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May 28 2009, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 04:39 PM) manyak big appetite, lol I think if monopoly business also will fail, they might as well go jump buildingTM just gave capital repayment, do u guys think he could be generous in his dividend anymore? like Jtinter case. |
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May 28 2009, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 28 2009, 04:35 PM) At least RESORTS will try to squeeze some juice out to breakeven point before selling the business. Everyone will try to make money from investing. I'm worried genting and resort might not be the one purchasing MGM. The recent shares transaction (sell) by Uncle Lim is v dodgy. I could nt sleep all evening and night thinking about it. Just hope for the best. Please refer to http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/610474/+1100 This is just my theory. I could be very wrong. Also today the edge published roughly the same tots as mine, by this guy called Ang Kok Heng, who is chief investment officer at Phillip Capital Management, who wrote in Bloomberg "It's not easy for Genting or Resorts to take over MGM Mirage's venture in Macau because of their investment in Singapore. The Singapore Government may not agree, so the family has to come in on their own." I've changed my entry price for genting and resorts following the date before the announcement of the credit note to MGM by Genting and Resorts, as I believe a lot of ppl speculated on this share hoping for the acquisition. If Uncle Lim really underhandedly buys MGM privately, I know the share price will jump off a cliff. Again, I and Mr Ang Kok Heng could be wrong. |
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May 28 2009, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 28 2009, 04:36 PM) I no luck la, meet my q at 1.330 then 10 mins drop 1.300 which counter TGOFF?? |
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May 28 2009, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 04:39 PM) manyak big appetite, lol jtinter is probably a different case all together, with all its assets paid up and loyal customers (even with increasing sin tax annual ritual)..TM just gave capital repayment, do u guys think he could be generous in his dividend anymore? like Jtinter case. Chances are Jtinter can afford to give out regular cap repayment (perhaps every 3 years), dvidend payment probably every half annually (mind u the dividend is no small amt as well). TM's cap repayment is perhaps a one of event which we probably won't see anytime soon... |
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May 28 2009, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 04:29 PM) not intend to pick up ka? thought that can throw LIONDIV and use the $ to hold TM but still holding a lot.. now keep dropping 0.605TM can go up but not in near short term.  |
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May 28 2009, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 28 2009, 04:41 PM) which counter TGOFF?? yea lo |
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May 28 2009, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ May 28 2009, 04:41 PM) I think if monopoly business also will fail, they might as well go jump building +1... |
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May 28 2009, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 04:41 PM) I'm worried genting and resort might not be the one purchasing MGM. The recent shares transaction (sell) by Uncle Lim is v dodgy. I could nt sleep all evening and night thinking about it. We'll have to closely monitor the news then.Please refer to http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/610474/+1100 This is just my theory. I could be very wrong. Also today the edge published roughly the same tots as mine, by this guy called Ang Kok Heng, who is chief investment officer at Phillip Capital Management, who wrote in Bloomberg "It's not easy for Genting or Resorts to take over MGM Mirage's venture in Macau because of their investment in Singapore. The Singapore Government may not agree, so the family has to come in on their own." I've changed my entry price for genting and resorts following the date before the announcement of the credit note to MGM by Genting and Resorts, as I believe a lot of ppl speculated on this share hoping for the acquisition. If Uncle Lim really underhandedly buys MGM privately, I know the share price will jump off a cliff. Again, I and Mr Ang Kok Heng could be wrong. Btw, RESORTS/GENTING is still a profitable company in M'sia, isn't it? Added on May 28, 2009, 4:45 pm QUOTE(aurora97 @ May 28 2009, 04:43 PM) +1... +2This post has been edited by cliffang83: May 28 2009, 04:45 PM |
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May 28 2009, 04:46 PM
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RESORT big fat zero debt, with HUGE reserves. If wasnt for its star cruise impairment, net profit is actually up 3%
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May 28 2009, 04:47 PM
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ASTRO is better than TM right now..
3 days green, from 2.71-3.00 |
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May 28 2009, 04:47 PM
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For monopoly businesses however...
i think its more of a question of how they take advantage of it, like say MAS whom had been sqeeuzing its customers ever since they were incorporated... Not until Airasia came in with guns blazing that MAS actually felt the heat to comepete with its rival. Hopefully TM will be the smater choice this time around. |
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May 28 2009, 04:48 PM
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Any one last minute recomendation before it close ..
I got 10k left .. didnt manage to buy ta-wb at 0.005 .. |
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May 28 2009, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 28 2009, 04:46 PM) RESORT big fat zero debt, with HUGE reserves. If wasnt for its star cruise impairment, net profit is actually up 3% That's consider good news for me~~ |
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May 28 2009, 04:48 PM
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wah TA-WB 0.005 now. who got it, report in
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May 28 2009, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 28 2009, 04:45 PM) We'll have to closely monitor the news then. Yes. Thats why I still want to buy. But I don't dare incase I can buy it cheaper. If I'm wrong I lose the opportunity on this two boats. But there are other boats to take.Btw, RESORTS/GENTING is still a profitable company in M'sia, isn't it? Added on May 28, 2009, 4:45 pm +2 Also, if I'm wrong and either genting or resorts did buy up the 50% oso: 1. Cash gone, lower NAV 2. Higher gearing, more interest 3. Operation costs balloons up, need to combine cost of two new casinos, marketing etc. 4. Need time to make profitable No rush for me to buy. But its my opinion... |
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May 28 2009, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 28 2009, 04:48 PM) That's consider good news for me~~ last i recall they had 3B cash in bank...200m profit is like 200K for them.. Btw i think i saw some article stating that Resorts might change its name to Genting Malaysia Bhd? This post has been edited by aurora97: May 28 2009, 04:50 PM |
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May 28 2009, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ May 28 2009, 04:49 PM) last i recall they had 3B cash in bank... Yuppers. The 3B never go up for long time dee.200m profit is like 200K for them.. |
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May 28 2009, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ May 28 2009, 04:49 PM) last i recall they had 3B cash in bank... 3B cash in bank ?!? 200m profit is like 200K for them.. Btw i think i saw some article stating that Resorts might change its name to Genting Malaysia Bhd?  wow...Anyone use PBB etrading? How's it? My acc just approved by them. |
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May 28 2009, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 28 2009, 04:46 PM) RESORT big fat zero debt, with HUGE reserves. If wasnt for its star cruise impairment, net profit is actually up 3% Yup, Resort problem (at least for minority shareholders) is that with huge cash pile and billion of profit, minoirty shareholders are getting peanut dividend 2% yield or so, which is considerably low for a highly profitable and huge cash pile company.While it doesn't utilise the cash pile nor giving out as reward to the shareholders. Impairment cost just means previous investment being done at high cost while if it doesn't yield any profit to the company, then it just means wrong investment decision had been made. You earn and earn then one bad decision on investment can wipe out previous hardwork done. So impairment cost is still something to look at although it doesn't bleed the company cashflow or underlying fundamental. Don't get me wrong, Resorts is a good and profitable company, and a good stock until now. |
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May 28 2009, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 28 2009, 04:52 PM) 3B cash in bank ?!? Hahaha, YTL even bigger war chest. Last year it was 15billion, then they got the property in Singapore, lowered to 11billion. I don't know whats they latest. But very impressive war chest. wow...Anyone use PBB etrading? How's it? My acc just approved by them. |
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May 28 2009, 04:54 PM
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woot - recovering. Come on TMnut, close @ 2.75 at least... ASTRO can make it u sure can!
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May 28 2009, 04:54 PM
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Someone wants RESORTS to stay at 2.73.
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May 28 2009, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 28 2009, 04:52 PM) 3B cash in bank ?!? they don't have 3B anymore! wow...Anyone use PBB etrading? How's it? My acc just approved by them. Its 4.6b!!! Added on May 28, 2009, 4:55 pm QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 04:53 PM) Hahaha, YTL even bigger war chest. Last year it was 15billion, then they got the property in Singapore, lowered to 11billion. I don't know whats they latest. But very impressive war chest. they have debts too!This post has been edited by sharesa: May 28 2009, 04:55 PM |
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May 28 2009, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ May 28 2009, 04:54 PM) they don't have 3B anymore! WOW~!! Its 4.6b!!! Added on May 28, 2009, 4:55 pm they have debts too! Lagi kao lat~!!! |
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May 28 2009, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 28 2009, 04:53 PM) Yup, Resort problem (at least for minority shareholders) is that with huge cash pile and billion of profit, minoirty shareholders are getting peanut dividend 2% yield or so, which is considerably low for a highly profitable and huge cash pile company. Master Cherroy, do you know about the Taiwan casino Resorts was tendering for? I read about this in Jan. But no updates or news till now?While it doesn't utilise the cash pile nor giving out as reward to the shareholders. Impairment cost just means previous investment being done at high cost while if it doesn't yield any profit to the company, then it just means wrong investment decision had been made. You earn and earn then one bad decision on investment can wipe out previous hardwork done. So impairment cost is still something to look at although it doesn't bleed the company cashflow or underlying fundamental. Don't get me wrong, Resorts is a good and profitable company, and a good stock until now. |
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May 28 2009, 04:57 PM
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End of the day for me, the counter I'm holding is doing a good job today.
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May 28 2009, 04:57 PM
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Resorts World to change name SOS chili padi mata kerbau + maggee » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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May 28 2009, 04:58 PM
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May 28 2009, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ May 28 2009, 04:57 PM) Resorts World to change name itu sos last week sula keluar in bursa announcement.SOS chili padi mata kerbau + maggee » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « asiatic oso will change name, changing to Genting Plantation Berhad. |
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May 28 2009, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 04:58 PM) itu sos last week sula keluar in bursa announcement. sry time difference asiatic oso will change name, changing to Genting Plantation Berhad. my sos always expired. |
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May 28 2009, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ May 28 2009, 04:35 PM) i think TM has long term potentials... Yup, but this is something I heard before back 15 years ago, when TM was at around 15+. only problem is one must have: 1. freaking super patience to play this counter 2. nerves of steel 3. and good holding power.  Something like that Must go for long term Monopoly business Surely profit blar blar. Long term shareholders still suffering after 15 years or so. May be not long enough, need to hold 30 years. Joking only. Not mean it is not a good stock or not or good for long term or not. Just some word familiar recall my memory. |
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May 28 2009, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ May 28 2009, 04:57 PM) Resorts World to change name Its going to be sooooo confusing for me. But good also la, show ppl that its all same company. But soooooo confusing for me. SOS chili padi mata kerbau + maggee » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 'fraid next time if my tp reached, i buy wrong company. Hahaha.Or I see Genting Malaysia (resorts) and think its Genting Bhd, sailang. hahahhaa. This post has been edited by omores: May 28 2009, 05:01 PM |
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May 28 2009, 05:00 PM
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nice close IOI.
stay strong, stay strong! |
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May 28 2009, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ May 28 2009, 04:58 PM) No need to see lah .. must be modified adi .. it takes few months release no relaease now release .. sure all big crocs name all change adi |
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May 28 2009, 05:02 PM
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Phew~ RESORTS @ 2.73... Nice~
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May 28 2009, 05:02 PM
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Wow v28 already. checking in
School holiday start dy, investors who have kids may bring their kids for holiday, so market a bit lengang, haha |
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May 28 2009, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 28 2009, 04:59 PM) Yup, but this is something I heard before back 15 years ago, when TM was at around 15+. on a brighter side, maybe they can aim for TM to go back $15 Something like that Must go for long term Monopoly business Surely profit blar blar. Long term shareholders still suffering after 15 years or so. May be not long enough, need to hold 30 years. Joking only. Not mean it is not a good stock or not or good for long term or not. Just some word familiar recall my memory. |
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May 28 2009, 05:02 PM
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tanjong 13.5 only!!!!!!!
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May 28 2009, 05:02 PM
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Anyone experience this .. at 4.50 , i try to buy mulpha-wa at 0.13 but rejected ..
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May 28 2009, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 28 2009, 04:59 PM) Yup, but this is something I heard before back 15 years ago, when TM was at around 15+. lol 15 yrs i think is super uber long already, i think a decent % in return perhaps 30% or 50% would surfice to take profit... Something like that Must go for long term Monopoly business Surely profit blar blar. Long term shareholders still suffering after 15 years or so. May be not long enough, need to hold 30 years. Joking only. Not mean it is not a good stock or not or good for long term or not. Just some word familiar recall my memory. long term in a sense of 1-3 years? I dont believe locking away monies in a growth cter for any period longer than that, unless the dividends are substantial... but as more competitors come into to the market (in terms of products, service, etc...), saturation begins to happen.. its only a matter of time counters like this will eventually meet up with reality ... (they've been living a dream since 1957) |
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May 28 2009, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ May 28 2009, 04:58 PM) Wah somemore have to register to see one ka. BIG BROTHER is watching you. |
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May 28 2009, 05:04 PM
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my Hapseng green
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May 28 2009, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(MoonRider @ May 28 2009, 05:02 PM) Anyone experience this .. at 4.50 , i try to buy mulpha-wa at 0.13 but rejected .. trading at last have to buy @ last done price isn't it?counter buy 0.125 sell 0.13 |
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May 28 2009, 05:06 PM
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TA-WB back to 0.010
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May 28 2009, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 05:06 PM) TA-WB back to 0.010 can.....depends on whether those suffered cancer still alive or died liao who say cancer stock kenot make money |
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May 28 2009, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 28 2009, 04:04 PM) a noob ques.... how to determine a counter is bluechip? Blue chip is a relative term, what appear to be blue in one eye might not be blue in another eye. But generally that means counter with good & consistent record of profit, and stable over the time. |
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May 28 2009, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 28 2009, 04:59 PM) Yup, but this is something I heard before back 15 years ago, when TM was at around 15+. I want to share my opinion about TM from the viewpoint of an investor, and a consumer since so many people like TM here. Something like that Must go for long term Monopoly business Surely profit blar blar. Long term shareholders still suffering after 15 years or so. May be not long enough, need to hold 30 years. Joking only. Not mean it is not a good stock or not or good for long term or not. Just some word familiar recall my memory. I feel that TM business, though is near monopoly at the moment, but it is still a commodity business. And commodity businesses don't enjoy huge margins. True they are near monopoly in the fixed line business, but they are nowhere near the leaders in the mobile and wireless arena. As a consumer, if not because of streamyx, I would not even bother subscribing the fixed line. I believe when it comes to voice communication, majority of us use the mobile phone instead of picking up the telephone. As mobile arena gets more competitive, and the wireless internet improves, I cannot find a reason for keeping streamyx and the fixed line subscription. I won't touch TM & Maybank. IMHO Tenaga & PLUS are better monopolies. Sorry if I offended anybody. Just want to share my opinion. This post has been edited by simplesmile: May 28 2009, 05:13 PM |
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May 28 2009, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 05:04 PM) Wah somemore have to register to see one ka. BIG BROTHER is watching you. I tried fake name, IC. Cannot They may be tracing your PC IP Address also. |
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May 28 2009, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ May 28 2009, 05:10 PM) can.....depends on whether those suffered cancer still alive or died liao Still ok on my side. Not too bad, thanks to Maybank being quite strong. All others red, but light red, even without being able to ave down. Shudnt have cancelled my TA buy order. Would have made my TA ave price at 1.016. Would be green for it.Lucky I've made some profits beforehand. So in all, not losing money even with TM down. Added on May 28, 2009, 5:17 pm QUOTE(cute_boboi @ May 28 2009, 05:13 PM) I tried fake name, IC. Cannot Really cannot? Wahhhhh linked to database one ka. Do you have enemies and you know their IC? Can put that in They may be tracing your PC IP Address also. IP address can avoid by using anonymous proxy websites.* now checking DAP site. Hahaha maybe they no respect, and publish in full there. This post has been edited by omores: May 28 2009, 05:22 PM |
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May 28 2009, 05:23 PM
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Lion is cash rich??
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May 28 2009, 05:23 PM
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Some updates on Malaysiakini.
Audit: PKFZ cost ballooned to RM7.5bil May 28, 09 4:49pm PKFZ audit report has shown that the project outlay has ballooned from RM1.957 billion to a staggering RM7.453 billion since the project inception in 2001. According to the report prepared by PriceWaterhouse Coopers (PwC), the astronomical figure includes interest costs. Without interest, the project outlay stands at RM3.522 billion. port klang free zone pkfz audit"The original estimated cost for the land purchase and development works in 2001 was RM1.957 billion... (the) project outlay has escalated to RM3.522 billion as at Dec 31, 2008. "Interest cost of the deferred payments to KDSB (Kuala Dimensi Sdn Bhd) amounted to RM1.425 billion resulting in a total project outlay of RM4.947 billion. "PKA (Port Klang Authority) was unable to fund its obligations to KDSB from its own resources when the first scheduled payment was due in 2007. PKA secured a 20-year soft loan of RM4.632 billion from MOF, of which RM4.382 billion is available for draw down. "This loan would impose an additional interest cost of RM2.506 billion resulting in a total project outlay of RM7.453 billion," read the report that was released today. Other highlights of the report: 1. The land was purchased by PKA at a price of RM25 psf on the basis that the land was of special value, through the Property Evaluation and Services Department had valued the land at RM10.16 psf in August 2001. add: This is a difference between buying the land at 1.808 million and a mere 442 million 2. The report noted several weaknesses in the governance and project management. Add from the edge: Contracts were entered into on the basis of estimated amounts and without detailed building plans. The development agreement DA3 was entered into based on an estimated amount of Rm1 billion and without detailed plans. Development contracts totaling RM1.846 billion were all awarded to KDSB without competitive bids. Entire project completed in two years, contrary to JAFZI/TSG Master plan which recommended mixed development strategy. The strategy was a single phase for infrastructure works and multiple phases over eight years for the light industrial units (which represented 42% of total construction cost of RM1 billion under the JAFZI/TSG Masterplan). As at Dec 31, 2008, only 77 units out of a total 512 units of the light industrial units were rented. The report said that there had been failures to inform cabinet over several key decisions. State Government checks and balances were bypassed: Add from the edge: For instance the agreements were not vetted by the Attorney General despite the significant amounts involved and PKA’s lack of experience in projects of this nature;. Treasury guidelines on vetting of agreement by the Attorney General and approval of variation orders by MoF were not adhered to; Letters of support, which could be construed as guarantees, were issued by the Minister of Transports without MoF approval; and PKA did not adhere to MoF’s stipulation to issue government guaranteed bonds for the development of the project. The PKA board, as an important statutory body, was expected to demonstrate good corporate governance. PKA's apparent reliance on approvals by senior government offices such as the the Cabinet, Ministry of Transport and Prime Minister. While such approvals were important, the board still retained the overall responsibility to run PKA in a professional and sustainable manner. This would include the responsibilityto not enter into agreements which may threaten PKA's long-term financial viability. Meanwhile, the report lamented that many important decisions were made without the PKA PKFZ board's oversight. MACC report tomorrow Speaking at a press conference to release the report, Port Klang Authority chairperson Lee Hwa Beng said that he will lodge a report with the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Agency tomorrow. pkfz report lee hwa beng pc 280509Lee said that he was instructed to do so by Transport Minister Ong Tee Keat. "The transport minister has instructed me to lodge a report with the MACC tomorrow morning at 8am," said Lee. Lee said that the report was not aimed at anyone, and it was up to the MACC to act on the contents of the audit report. This post has been edited by omores: May 28 2009, 05:49 PM |
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May 28 2009, 05:34 PM
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My humble advise, get out of stocks now.
PS: Long term players can disregard my advise. Only for those holding speculative short term positions. |
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May 28 2009, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 28 2009, 05:34 PM) My humble advise, get out of stocks now. big wave is coming? PS: Long term players can disregard my advise. Only for those holding speculative short term positions. end of month no window dressing anymore? could b the last chance to get a few good stocks?..... must aim properly this time & never sell for peanuts again  |
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May 28 2009, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ May 28 2009, 05:40 PM) big wave is coming? Ya me too. Time to put all my regrets at a rest if indeed tomorrow is black friday. end of month no window dressing anymore? could b the last chance to get a few good stocks?..... must aim properly this time & never sell for peanuts again This post has been edited by omores: May 28 2009, 05:49 PM |
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May 28 2009, 05:49 PM
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OK time for me to sign off. Good day, and happy dumpling day
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May 28 2009, 05:53 PM
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I saw LionCor financial result
loss of half a Billion!!! Am I seeing it right? This post has been edited by sharesa: May 28 2009, 05:53 PM |
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May 28 2009, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 28 2009, 05:34 PM) My humble advise, get out of stocks now. get out for how long ar? hahahaPS: Long term players can disregard my advise. Only for those holding speculative short term positions. |
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May 28 2009, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ May 28 2009, 05:53 PM) I saw LionCor financial result there's always a reason for being a penny stock.. loss of half a Billion!!! Am I seeing it right? This post has been edited by tessei: May 28 2009, 05:56 PM |
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May 28 2009, 06:05 PM
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Wah....I go out for afternoon come back...new V28 oredi reach page 12...Now only sign in....
 And Adam's advice to leave speculative stocks....Luckily out of that...My counters now fully non-speculative, but no more $$$ for the big turnaround!  |
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May 28 2009, 06:28 PM
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i did an intra day and still charged 0.415%
is there any special procedure for intraday to get 0.15% fee? |
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May 28 2009, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 28 2009, 05:06 PM) TA-WB back to 0.010 TAWB boat never wait for me who say cancer stock kenot make money QUOTE(htt @ May 28 2009, 05:12 PM) Blue chip is a relative term, what appear to be blue in one eye might not be blue in another eye. But generally that means counter with good & consistent record of profit, and stable over the time. oh ok, so its just another word to describe good companyQUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 28 2009, 05:34 PM) My humble advise, get out of stocks now. you're the 2nd person to tell me this, my remiser also say big wave coming very soon. PS: Long term players can disregard my advise. Only for those holding speculative short term positions. Looks like my warrant really can bungkus liow |
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May 28 2009, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(aichiban @ May 28 2009, 06:28 PM) i did an intra day and still charged 0.415% u using online trading?is there any special procedure for intraday to get 0.15% fee? last time I buy/sell genting 1000 share @ 4.62, intraday brokerage 0.1% brokerage amount rm12.00 (x2, buy/sell) contract stamp rm5.00 (x2, buy/sell) clearing fee rm1.39 (buy), 1.43 (sell) |
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May 28 2009, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 28 2009, 06:29 PM) oh ok, so its just another word to describe good company |
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May 28 2009, 06:39 PM
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Adam: May I ask why? Is it because of something you saw in the charts?
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May 28 2009, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(jgchoo @ May 28 2009, 06:37 PM) u using online trading? yes onlinelast time I buy/sell genting 1000 share @ 4.62, intraday brokerage 0.1% brokerage amount rm12.00 (x2, buy/sell) contract stamp rm5.00 (x2, buy/sell) clearing fee rm1.39 (buy), 1.43 (sell) |
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May 28 2009, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ May 28 2009, 05:53 PM) I saw LionCor financial result I tot quarter of a billion? Shud check again. But no intention to buy... unless come goreng time. Even then, I scared to goreng loss of half a Billion!!! Am I seeing it right? Now way overpriced |
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May 28 2009, 06:48 PM
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bad news coming from US side tonight? N.korean going launch nuclear? adam's advice sounds scary.
Added on May 28, 2009, 6:50 pmsomthing is going to be very wrong, really dint see big volume lately, shark already left. QUOTE(abin28 @ May 28 2009, 06:48 PM) bad news coming from US side tonight? N.korean going launch nuclear? adam's advice sounds scary. This post has been edited by abin28: May 28 2009, 06:50 PM |
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May 28 2009, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(aichiban @ May 28 2009, 06:28 PM) i did an intra day and still charged 0.415% juputer 0.05% for first two monthsis there any special procedure for intraday to get 0.15% fee? 0.1% after that.. PM me if you interested. min RM8 for first two months min RM10 for the following month after that... been using for 1 month damn good.... no issue no lag no hang no down time 1 bad thing is that they dont have much technical report compare to RHb This post has been edited by virtualgay: May 28 2009, 06:57 PM |
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May 28 2009, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(abin28 @ May 28 2009, 06:48 PM) bad news coming from US side tonight? N.korean going launch nuclear? adam's advice sounds scary. Trading volume was low the last few days, today is record low for a few months already. Malaysian data not good. US will have more news on GM, and will be releasing unemployment figures. Added on May 28, 2009, 6:50 pmsomthing is going to be very wrong, really dint see big volume lately, shark already left. GM and Chrysler having cut off biz with a huge amount of car dealerships will definitely cause unemployment figures to rise. After all the dealers will have no car to sell, especially those who only display either GM or Chrysler's cars. They will go out of biz unless they sign up with other car manufacturers. If they lose business, don't need so many employers. Plus tomorrow is a friday. |
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May 28 2009, 06:58 PM
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tomorrow is confirm blood bath liao....
lets wait for 999 |
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May 28 2009, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(aichiban @ May 28 2009, 06:40 PM) yes online and 0.1% or rm12 whichever higher for brokerage fees.in my case, if they just take 0.1%, it will be 4.62. Added on May 28, 2009, 7:05 pmstill holding resort, still losing... i'll hold tight! This post has been edited by jgchoo: May 28 2009, 07:05 PM |
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May 28 2009, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(jgchoo @ May 28 2009, 07:02 PM) and 0.1% or rm12 whichever higher for brokerage fees. Didn't resort shoot back up? How much is your ave price?in my case, if they just take 0.1%, it will be 4.62. Added on May 28, 2009, 7:05 pmstill holding resort, still losing... i'll hold tight! This post has been edited by omores: May 28 2009, 07:16 PM |
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May 28 2009, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 07:14 PM) Didn't resort shoot back up? How much is your ave price? no AVR, now left 2.83.... |
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May 28 2009, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 28 2009, 06:58 PM) tomorrow is confirm blood bath liao.... feel like tomolo will be green, coz tomolo is end of month....lets wait for 999 |
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May 28 2009, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE(wschan @ May 28 2009, 07:45 PM) feel like tomolo will be green, coz tomolo is end of month.... Hehe maybe. Thats actually my worse case scenario, even tho i have a lot of stocks now. I;ll lose a lot of money on my derivatives, but then again I'll make back on my shares. Right now, from the news i read, its no good. Really no good. Spider senses tingling. ------------------------------------- Anyhow everyone, Adam just informed me that he had done some fancy complex calculation (don't ask me, I'm a simple person) and the very downside risk is 70%, which upside risk is 30%. So still got hope for everyone, whether you have all shares, or no shares. . If you want to know the probability of up and low, you may stay up at night with me and read US news, look at DJIA, look at USD/Yen, etc and talk crap to keep each other up all night long.Added on May 28, 2009, 7:55 pm QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 07:14 PM) Didn't resort shoot back up? How much is your ave price? Hmmmmm. You are not contra-ing right? Can average down lo tomorrow if you still have funds left. But wait a while first, don't sailang straight in the morning.This post has been edited by omores: May 28 2009, 07:55 PM |
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May 28 2009, 08:02 PM
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Yes we must remember tomorrow is curtain dressing day where the buggers will go around buying one lots of blue chips to try to turn KLCI green or less red.
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May 28 2009, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ May 28 2009, 08:02 PM) Yes we must remember tomorrow is curtain dressing day where the buggers will go around buying one lots of blue chips to try to turn KLCI green or less red. 1 lot guys are not that scary. For me now, what's scary is seeing my stocks go down the drain. And then after that, EPF and Khazanah cut my q when buying mega sale stocks...This post has been edited by omores: May 28 2009, 08:07 PM |
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May 28 2009, 08:07 PM
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how can we know how much share EPF and Khazanah invest in?
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May 28 2009, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 28 2009, 08:07 PM) how can we know how much share EPF and Khazanah invest in? Sorry I dunno if this might make you lose some details but u can oso check from the star online. It'll list transactions by big shareholders who hold more than (5%) holdings.is this open to the public instead of reading the Bursa announcement? This post has been edited by omores: May 28 2009, 08:11 PM |
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May 28 2009, 08:17 PM
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WINDOW DRESSING... mmmh.. i dont think is possible looking at the current situation...
further to that our FKLI is also RED today.... Future no confident share market no confident... |
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May 28 2009, 08:21 PM
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PORT KLANG investigation report is out... debt interest cover almost 80% of the total cost
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May 28 2009, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ May 28 2009, 08:21 PM) PORT KLANG investigation report is out... debt interest cover almost 80% of the total cost corruption! how such project got approve in 1st place??? |
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May 28 2009, 08:41 PM
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US durable goods up 1.9%
Jobless claims lower Sort of good news for stocks This post has been edited by sharesa: May 28 2009, 08:43 PM |
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May 28 2009, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ May 28 2009, 08:41 PM) US durable goods up 1.9% US GREEN we also REDJobless claims lower Sort of good news for stocks US RED we BLOOTHBATH US BLOOTBATH we MEGA SALES US MEGA SALES we WARAHOUSE SALES!!! basically i think we are on our own la... |
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May 28 2009, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ May 28 2009, 08:41 PM) US durable goods up 1.9% Further sign of recovery. Now the problems seem to stem with GM and the amount of bad banks..Jobless claims lower Sort of good news for stocks |
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May 28 2009, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ May 28 2009, 08:21 PM) PORT KLANG investigation report is out... debt interest cover almost 80% of the total cost Malaysia Boleh... how such project got approve in 1st place??? Added on May 28, 2009, 8:48 pm QUOTE(sharesa @ May 28 2009, 08:41 PM) US durable goods up 1.9% With all the bad news market also up for so long liao, good news Jobless claims lower Sort of good news for stocks I think market sentiment more important than anything... This post has been edited by htt: May 28 2009, 08:48 PM |
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May 28 2009, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 28 2009, 08:46 PM) US GREEN we also RED lol US RED we BLOOTHBATH US BLOOTBATH we MEGA SALES US MEGA SALES we WARAHOUSE SALES!!! basically i think we are on our own la... |
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May 28 2009, 08:52 PM
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Anyone on TANJONG today.. queue 20 lot @ 13.40 but din manage to get it done... haha!!
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May 28 2009, 08:55 PM
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Tell you one thing, after i've sold off my positions tomorrow, I'm taking a break from the market. The signs are not good. I'll be back aggressive towards end to early next year
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May 28 2009, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 07:53 PM) Hehe maybe. Thats actually my worse case scenario, even tho i have a lot of stocks now. I;ll lose a lot of money on my derivatives, but then again I'll make back on my shares. not contra, will hold for a while if really can't breakeven.Right now, from the news i read, its no good. Really no good. Spider senses tingling. ------------------------------------- Anyhow everyone, Adam just informed me that he had done some fancy complex calculation (don't ask me, I'm a simple person) and the very downside risk is 70%, which upside risk is 30%. So still got hope for everyone, whether you have all shares, or no shares. . If you want to know the probability of up and low, you may stay up at night with me and read US news, look at DJIA, look at USD/Yen, etc and talk crap to keep each other up all night long.Added on May 28, 2009, 7:55 pm Hmmmmm. You are not contra-ing right? Can average down lo tomorrow if you still have funds left. But wait a while first, don't sailang straight in the morning. |
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Good evening everyone,
How was the bloodbath this morning.. you like it? Well, if you like this one, you ain't see nothing yet. Told you all to short, didn't I ? KLSE is full of sharks and this boat is sinking.. those holding on will be drown or eaten alive soon. Those who are smart, shorted would have made some. Now time for me to make some more money trading over at the NYSE... opening soon. Oil futures looks great! I love the smell of Oil! This post has been edited by danmooncake: May 28 2009, 09:14 PM |
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KLSE turn from bolehland to tak bolehland.
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May 28 2009, 09:16 PM
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buy stock also scare (afraid it will go down some more)
dont buy also scare it goes (miss the boat) sell to early afraid it will go up further and dont have patient to wait and go in on the high side. play contra average also scare it will drop further waiting for quarterly result ,dividen,capital repay etc also scare how many times it will go up and down in order to have profit or cut loss whether to cut loss or breakeven or average more ?? plenty of if hidden news have not pops out yet eg GM motors, North and south korea war, GDP going down etc. all this things will affect the market. what is the investing plan when it goes up or down? BUY / WAIT/ SELL /DONT BUY if u think the market will go up hold all stocks if u think the market will go down sell all the stocks. dont sell one and hold another bcos all shares will be red no exemption unless very lucky one, even blue chip This post has been edited by lowyat888: May 28 2009, 09:21 PM |
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May 28 2009, 09:21 PM
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Actually I also duno why sitting at sideline for nearly 2 weeks and suddenly I jump in today
 QUOTE(danmooncake @ May 28 2009, 09:13 PM) Good evening everyone, My remisers fault la, he say go for tgoffs, he also say mid term O&G counter looks bright, I ask him so high can go in he say go, warrant also you not scare this one is kacang putih for youHow was the bloodbath this morning.. you like it? Well, if you like this one, you ain't see nothing yet. Told you all to short, didn't I ? KLSE is full of sharks and this boat is sinking.. those holding on will be drown or eaten alive soon. Those who are smart, shorted would have made some. Now time for me to make some more money trading over at the NYSE... opening soon. Oil futures looks great! I love the smell of Oil! |
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May 28 2009, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 28 2009, 09:21 PM) Actually I also duno why sitting at sideline for nearly 2 weeks and suddenly I jump in today ur remiser think u can take high risks... My remisers fault la, he say go for tgoffs, he also say mid term O&G counter looks bright, I ask him so high can go in he say go, warrant also you not scare this one is kacang putih for you |
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May 28 2009, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ May 28 2009, 09:16 PM) buy stock also scare (afraid it will go down some more) I love the smell of FEAR in the mornings...dont buy also scare it goes (miss the boat) sell to early afraid it will go up further and dont have patient to wait and go in on the high side. play contra average also scare it will drop further waiting for quarterly result ,dividen,capital repay etc also scare how many times it will go up and down in order to have profit or cut loss whether to cut loss or breakeven or average more ?? plenty of if hidden news have not pops out yet eg GM motors, North and south korea war, GDP going down etc. all this things will affect the market. what is the investing plan when it goes up or down? BUY / WAIT/ SELL /DONT BUY if u think the market will go up hold all stocks if u think the market will go down sell all the stocks. dont sell one and hold another bcos all shares will be red no exemption unless very lucky one, even blue chip |
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May 28 2009, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ May 28 2009, 09:13 PM) Good evening everyone, this morning was not a bloodbath.How was the bloodbath this morning.. you like it? Well, if you like this one, you ain't see nothing yet. Told you all to short, didn't I ? KLSE is full of sharks and this boat is sinking.. those holding on will be drown or eaten alive soon. Those who are smart, shorted would have made some. Now time for me to make some more money trading over at the NYSE... opening soon. Oil futures looks great! I love the smell of Oil! If -100 points down like in 2008 then can be accorded. |
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May 28 2009, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ May 28 2009, 09:13 PM) Good evening everyone, KLCI gapped down today.How was the bloodbath this morning.. you like it? Well, if you like this one, you ain't see nothing yet. Told you all to short, didn't I ? KLSE is full of sharks and this boat is sinking.. those holding on will be drown or eaten alive soon. Those who are smart, shorted would have made some. Now time for me to make some more money trading over at the NYSE... opening soon. Oil futures looks great! I love the smell of Oil! The last time this happened, was on 3rd March 2009. Hmmmm. Will have to see how KLCI opens up tomorrow. |
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May 28 2009, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 28 2009, 09:21 PM) Actually I also duno why sitting at sideline for nearly 2 weeks and suddenly I jump in today I think its good to get TGoff instead of risky warrants. My remisers fault la, he say go for tgoffs, he also say mid term O&G counter looks bright, I ask him so high can go in he say go, warrant also you not scare this one is kacang putih for you O & G still is bright, as oil is a depleting item. You need to be patient to hold the stock. |
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May 28 2009, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ May 28 2009, 09:43 PM) I think its good to get TGoff instead of risky warrants. my plan is take 20k out, now buy first batch and see if it drop, if drop 20% I avg down another 4 lot, I'll continue until I run out of bullet then I sit and stare at my notebook like a mad person O & G still is bright, as oil is a depleting item. You need to be patient to hold the stock. This is my first presentable share This post has been edited by moorish: May 28 2009, 09:54 PM |
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May 28 2009, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 28 2009, 09:54 PM) my plan is take 20k out, now buy first batch and see if it drop, if drop 20% I avg down another 4 lot, I'll continue until I run out of bullet then I sit and stare at my notebook like a mad person Just out of curiosity, regardless of the amount that you have, what is percentile of your first batch This is my first presentable share of the stock that you wish to purchase? |
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May 28 2009, 10:18 PM
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What O & G counter that still can enter now and can go up further?
KNM? SCOMI? OILCOPR? SAAG? TGoff? KENCANA? ALAM? SAPCR?? .... |
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May 28 2009, 10:18 PM
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Don't let any remisiers catch you saying it's your remisier's fault lol. They will tell you that if you're old enough to trade; you're old enough to take the loss as nobody forces you to buy/sell. Always take what your remisier says will a pinch of salt and of course never ever let them be the one to tell you how and when to trade.
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May 28 2009, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ May 28 2009, 09:43 PM) I think its good to get TGoff instead of risky warrants. the thing about depleting oil is that it doesnt deplete in our lifetime O & G still is bright, as oil is a depleting item. You need to be patient to hold the stock. |
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May 28 2009, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ May 28 2009, 10:12 PM) Just out of curiosity, regardless of the amount that you have, what is percentile of your first batch tgoffs 1 lot 1.330 3 lot 1.340of the stock that you wish to purchase? |
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May 28 2009, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(ante5k @ May 28 2009, 10:19 PM) the thing about depleting oil is that it doesnt deplete in our lifetime true, but Malaysian oilwells are supposedly depleting within 10 years time, according to our goverment mentioned 1 year ago. That is just on our part, not sure about other countries' reserves |
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May 28 2009, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 28 2009, 10:21 PM) tgoffs 1 lot 1.330 3 lot 1.340 No, what I meant is.. is your strategy like this:Buy 20% of the first batch Buy 20% of the second batch when the price drops 20% Buy 20% of the third batch.. when the price drops another 20% .. so forth like this, slowly accumulating till you hit your 100% max? This post has been edited by danmooncake: May 28 2009, 10:28 PM |
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May 28 2009, 10:28 PM
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May 28 2009, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(nujikabane @ May 28 2009, 10:28 PM) Not a surprise.. how can one not in recession when the economy is export based and there aren't no buyers?The Second Finance Minister is who prouldly claimed Malaysia not in recession eating crow for breakfast, lunch and dinner.. |
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May 28 2009, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 28 2009, 09:21 PM) Actually I also duno why sitting at sideline for nearly 2 weeks and suddenly I jump in today moorish... i could not agree more with your remisier especially he quoted that "Warrant you also not scare and this one is kacang putih for you" My remisers fault la, he say go for tgoffs, he also say mid term O&G counter looks bright, I ask him so high can go in he say go, warrant also you not scare this one is kacang putih for you ahahahahahah |
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May 28 2009, 10:44 PM
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So whatever happens to the stimulus package, gone down the drain ? Not small amount the govt pumped to avoid our country from going to recession.
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May 28 2009, 10:47 PM
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pump in, pump where? pump into pocket, useless!
QUOTE(nujikabane @ May 28 2009, 10:44 PM) So whatever happens to the stimulus package, gone down the drain ? Not small amount the govt pumped to avoid our country from going to recession. This post has been edited by abin28: May 28 2009, 10:48 PM |
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May 28 2009, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(nujikabane @ May 28 2009, 10:44 PM) So whatever happens to the stimulus package, gone down the drain ? Not small amount the govt pumped to avoid our country from going to recession. you got PM!! |
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QUOTE(nujikabane @ May 28 2009, 10:44 PM) So whatever happens to the stimulus package, gone down the drain ? Not small amount the govt pumped to avoid our country from going to recession. Didn't you see, it STIM up so much for few weeks? |
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May 28 2009, 10:52 PM
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Good to hear that another stimulus package is underway, should start gather bullets for the next Bull run lol...keep my finger xcross and wait for our dear PM's announcement
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May 28 2009, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ May 28 2009, 10:26 PM) true, but Malaysian oilwells are supposedly depleting within 10 years time, according to our goverment mentioned 1 year ago. That is just on our part, not sure about other countries' reserves how many times have u heard, in 20 years, in 10 years, then 20 years, almost every year?explorations? new oil fields? every year they change the figure |
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May 28 2009, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(abin28 @ May 28 2009, 10:47 PM) pump in, pump where? pump into pocket, useless! Agree~ |
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May 28 2009, 10:55 PM
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^ PM read & replied
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May 28 2009, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 28 2009, 08:53 PM) Hehe maybe. Thats actually my worse case scenario, even tho i have a lot of stocks now. I;ll lose a lot of money on my derivatives, but then again I'll make back on my shares. Hi Omores,Right now, from the news i read, its no good. Really no good. Spider senses tingling. ------------------------------------- Anyhow everyone, Adam just informed me that he had done some fancy complex calculation (don't ask me, I'm a simple person) and the very downside risk is 70%, which upside risk is 30%. So still got hope for everyone, whether you have all shares, or no shares. . If you want to know the probability of up and low, you may stay up at night with me and read US news, look at DJIA, look at USD/Yen, etc and talk crap to keep each other up all night long.Added on May 28, 2009, 7:55 pm Hmmmmm. You are not contra-ing right? Can average down lo tomorrow if you still have funds left. But wait a while first, don't sailang straight in the morning. Don't stress up. Why you reply back to your own message,omoRes ? You scared me. |
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May 28 2009, 11:04 PM
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how is Dr.Jones doing tonight?
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May 28 2009, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(yang yang @ May 28 2009, 05:23 PM) Lion is cash rich?? LOL, first time I see people asking this. No offence. |
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May 28 2009, 11:13 PM
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For economy data part, if not stimulus package, we won't able to see contruction sector up 0.6%, it could be more uglier scene or GDP number without stimulus package money.
Malaysia is export orientated economy, nearly half of the products made are meant for export, when overseas customers don't buy from you, you don't have large scale of domestic economy to absrob the impact. Even the like the size of China population and its domestic economy can't withstand the downfall of US demand, Malaysia with 25 million population surely cannot run away with it. So whether Malaysia economy turn better or not, it is not up to Malaysia on its own, it is global particular US is dictating whether the world economy can recover or not, so does China. What China needs to do now is transform from export based economy to internal demand based economy, which don't think short term wise can do it. But this should be China longer term target now. China only can lead the world to recovery if they can transform, if not, just remain like current situation as 'world factory', it won't able to lead the world in term of economy. |
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May 28 2009, 11:13 PM
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wah... Mr.Jones GREEN!!!
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May 28 2009, 11:16 PM
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dun thk dj will end with green...... tomoro pray it will not a bloodbath for us
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May 28 2009, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(.:BreT:. @ May 28 2009, 11:16 PM) dun thk dj will end with green...... tomoro pray it will not a bloodbath for us the news released today is calming. So, tomorrow should be alright for us, unless some other kind of negative news reported last minute. By the way, European markets are off its lows This post has been edited by sharesa: May 28 2009, 11:19 PM |
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May 28 2009, 11:31 PM
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lets hope that tomorrow will be a better day for all of us...
i will be queuing for TANJONG @ RM13.00 |
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May 28 2009, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE(.:BreT:. @ May 28 2009, 11:16 PM) dun thk dj will end with green...... tomoro pray it will not a bloodbath for us Green or not green doesn't matter for KLSE right now, as foreign funds participants are low currently, overseas bourses movement won't dictate how KLSE move (unless really big one).KLSE is moving alone more due to internal issue and willingness of the like EPF and PNB moves into the market. One worry is that TM is trading at huge down/selling volume for the last few days, signal massive divestment of some funds. |
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May 28 2009, 11:43 PM
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yup. volume very "chah" for few days already
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May 28 2009, 11:46 PM
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some food for thought
The reality on the ground. My friend works in a electronics corporation which has a subsidary company in China. According to him, that company in China retrenched 300 workers at the end of 2008. In February 2009, they employed 500 new workers because of new orders. Now, all the orders have already been met and this company is now in a unenviable position. Whether to keep or retrench these new workers since no new orders are coming. |
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May 28 2009, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ May 28 2009, 10:18 PM) What O & G counter that still can enter now and can go up further? DIALOG!KNM? SCOMI? OILCOPR? SAAG? TGoff? KENCANA? ALAM? SAPCR?? .... Added on May 28, 2009, 11:57 pm QUOTE(cherroy @ May 28 2009, 11:35 PM) One worry is that TM is trading at huge down/selling volume for the last few days, signal massive divestment of some funds. But you can't blame the funds divesting after the truly awful performance turned in by the incompetent clowns running TM... This post has been edited by David_Brent: May 28 2009, 11:57 PM |
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May 28 2009, 11:58 PM
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tomorrow us gdp/ consumer sentiment (consensus) result coming out. hopefully can make some quick gains then exit b4 market close. monday seems 50/50
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Hope tomorrow TM will be 2.80. Then will ease my holding, wanna liquidate partial.
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May 29 2009, 12:10 AM
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As today did not get the TA-WB at 0.005 , i have made a hugh gamble to buy GMotors at $1.17 , it may be the shortest share i hold .. June 1 ...either bankrupt or survive ....
RM8K+ ... hold tight and pray hard GM will not going to bankrupt .. |
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May 29 2009, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE(MoonRider @ May 29 2009, 12:10 AM) As today did not get the TA-WB at 0.005 , i have made a hugh gamble to buy GMotors at $1.17 , it may be the shortest share i hold .. June 1 ...either bankrupt or survive .... wah... RM8K+ ... hold tight and pray hard GM will not going to bankrupt .. really need balls of steel to do that |
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May 29 2009, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 28 2009, 09:54 PM) my plan is take 20k out, now buy first batch and see if it drop, if drop 20% I avg down another 4 lot, I'll continue until I run out of bullet then I sit and stare at my notebook like a mad person Haha congrats. Your first good company, real investment and didnt hear you say gamble, its ok, I'm putting only a little, can afford to lose. This is my first presentable share I think u should frame this full purchase up. I'm not kidding Added on May 29, 2009, 12:17 am QUOTE(danmooncake @ May 28 2009, 10:31 PM) Not a surprise.. how can one not in recession when the economy is export based and there aren't no buyers? Haha you still think he's eating crow? I still think he's very pleased with himself because he 'staved off panic for one more day....'The Second Finance Minister is who prouldly claimed Malaysia not in recession eating crow for breakfast, lunch and dinner.. hahahaha. This post has been edited by omores: May 29 2009, 12:17 AM |
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May 29 2009, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(MoonRider @ May 29 2009, 12:10 AM) As today did not get the TA-WB at 0.005 , i have made a hugh gamble to buy GMotors at $1.17 , it may be the shortest share i hold .. June 1 ...either bankrupt or survive .... I will pray for you also.RM8K+ ... hold tight and pray hard GM will not going to bankrupt .. |
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May 29 2009, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(nujikabane @ May 28 2009, 10:44 PM) So whatever happens to the stimulus package, gone down the drain ? Not small amount the govt pumped to avoid our country from going to recession. Well, the 60 billion will help stave off steep declines in GDP, in construction sector, in unemployment, bailouts (now smartly, loans are given to companies to buy ailing companies, our top ppl are well trained by certain businessmen who we know will benefit from this) and so on, especially decline in wealth for ppl in certain political affiliation. But is it efficiently used? Maximised? 60B should translate to 60B worth of projects, loans, etc. With PKFZ report opening a can of whoop as* worms, costing 7 over billion with not much work done, I get the impression that we shud calculate the actual investment to 60% if we are lucky. So we should get 36B worth of project. For me, better have some than none at all. Added on May 29, 2009, 12:30 am QUOTE(DJWC @ May 28 2009, 10:59 PM) Hi Omores, What message? Sorry I was out just got back...Don't stress up. Why you reply back to your own message,omoRes ? You scared me. Added on May 29, 2009, 12:34 am QUOTE(speed7791 @ May 28 2009, 11:43 PM) yup. volume very "chah" for few days already There are better markets to invest in. More stable. Politically, with less scandals. PKFZ corruption charges will cause some fright. We malaysians may know how bad it is and 'accept' it, but foreign funds will not accept such a thing. Don't forget many more things to come, such as Anwards sodomy trial. That's another scandal is that problematic. If the government manage to get 'evidence' of his guilt, oso got problem because he's the US darling. If don't have, then government seen as 'lying' bunch that's wiling to do anything to maintain power such as charging him with sodomy during election time in hope to decrease voter's favor with Anwar. foreigner no eye c we all ka?Added on May 29, 2009, 12:35 am QUOTE(David_Brent @ May 28 2009, 11:55 PM) DIALOG! Can't blame just TM, a lot of other companies are also reporting losses in revenue and profit. At least TM got increase in revenue, other companies revenue and profit oso down.Added on May 28, 2009, 11:57 pm But you can't blame the funds divesting after the truly awful performance turned in by the incompetent clowns running TM... This post has been edited by omores: May 29 2009, 01:29 AM |
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May 29 2009, 01:28 AM
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QUOTE(MoonRider @ May 29 2009, 12:10 AM) As today did not get the TA-WB at 0.005 , i have made a hugh gamble to buy GMotors at $1.17 , it may be the shortest share i hold .. June 1 ...either bankrupt or survive .... moonrider.. which brokering firm you use to trade US shares?RM8K+ ... hold tight and pray hard GM will not going to bankrupt .. |
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May 29 2009, 01:30 AM
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Lets see US news of the day
GOOD 1. Home sales up 0.3%. Home resales rose by 2.9% to a 4.68 million annual rate from 4.55 million in March. But will this be enough to stave off fears? Look at bad no.1. 2. Initial jobless claims fell by 13,000 to 623,000 in the week ended May 23, lower than forecast, from a revised 636,000 the prior week, according to Labor Department figures released today in Washington. But don't celebrate yet. Read bad no.2. 3. GM finally agreed to turn sell assets 72.5% to treasury, 17.5% to a union health trust and 15% to bondholders aka creditors. This make it smoother. GM turning debt into equity for creditors and bondholders. It's a great plan, creditors who may not see their money back may take up offer on getting equity on the new GM. 15% have already agreed, 20% more who had agreed to support gov's treasury plans have not yet been included. Total 35%. Will they meet deadline for June 1 to get the required 90% approval by bondholders to execute this plan? It might not be a problem as the bondholders really have no choice, this is best way to see their moneys worth come back. BUT regardless of all this, bankruptcy is still expected to continue.4. Good news is increase in market appetite both in US and UK, most investors see bottom is near even if the experts do now. See bloomberg for details. But as far as risk appetites go, this can come and go. BAD 1. Mortgage Delinquencies, Foreclosures, Rates Increase Eventhough home sales is up (good no.1), you got to understand the context of houses going dirt cheap. The median price slumped 15 percent from a year earlier, the second-biggest drop on record, and distressed properties accounted for 45 percent of all sales. More bank auctions, sure more home bought by bargain hunters. Defaults in NPL/morgage can give a much clearer picture what is happening. One in every eight Americans is now late on a payment or already in foreclosure as mounting job losses cause more homeowners to fall behind on loans, the MBA said. Morgage rate went up to 4.91%. Survey shows, Home sales may reach a bottom by mid-year, according to 72 percent of the panelists, and more than six in 10 predicted housing starts will hit a trough by that time. This means home prices have further to fall, with 40 percent of the respondents forecasting that declines will continue into 2010 or later. 2. Following improvement in jobless claims. The figures have yet to include GM's disenfranchised dealers most likely retrenchment results. Also KeyCorp, the second-largest bank based in Ohio, will cut more than 300 positions this quarter, amid others. Economists surveyed by Bloomberg this month projected the jobless rate, currently at a 25-year high of 8.9 percent, will climb to 9.6 percent by the end of 2009. This month’s jobs report is due June 5. Also, don't forget there's also salary cuts and people cutting down on spending. This will still maintain a negative effect on consumer index. Less consumers, less business for retailers, then manufacturers, then... It's a never ending cycle... You can find all the above from bloomberg. So please dont ask me to give you link. Too much time spent summarizing already, if wanna check just go check latest news there. I'm gonna check cnn, cnbc and bbc next. This post has been edited by omores: May 29 2009, 01:50 AM |
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May 29 2009, 01:41 AM
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SLIME BATH tomorrow...
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May 29 2009, 02:11 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 02:30 AM) Lets see US news of the day Thanks omores , A Clear and Good explanation from you. Save us a lot of time.GOOD 1. Home sales up 0.3%. Home resales rose by 2.9% to a 4.68 million annual rate from 4.55 million in March. But will this be enough to stave off fears? Look at bad no.1. 2. Initial jobless claims fell by 13,000 to 623,000 in the week ended May 23, lower than forecast, from a revised 636,000 the prior week, according to Labor Department figures released today in Washington. But don't celebrate yet. Read bad no.2. 3. GM finally agreed to turn sell assets 72.5% to treasury, 17.5% to a union health trust and 15% to bondholders aka creditors. This make it smoother. GM turning debt into equity for creditors and bondholders. It's a great plan, creditors who may not see their money back may take up offer on getting equity on the new GM. 15% have already agreed, 20% more who had agreed to support gov's treasury plans have not yet been included. Total 35%. Will they meet deadline for June 1 to get the required 90% approval by bondholders to execute this plan? It might not be a problem as the bondholders really have no choice, this is best way to see their moneys worth come back. BUT regardless of all this, bankruptcy is still expected to continue.4. Good news is increase in market appetite both in US and UK, most investors see bottom is near even if the experts do now. See bloomberg for details. But as far as risk appetites go, this can come and go. BAD 1. Mortgage Delinquencies, Foreclosures, Rates Increase Eventhough home sales is up (good no.1), you got to understand the context of houses going dirt cheap. The median price slumped 15 percent from a year earlier, the second-biggest drop on record, and distressed properties accounted for 45 percent of all sales. More bank auctions, sure more home bought by bargain hunters. Defaults in NPL/morgage can give a much clearer picture what is happening. One in every eight Americans is now late on a payment or already in foreclosure as mounting job losses cause more homeowners to fall behind on loans, the MBA said. Morgage rate went up to 4.91%. Survey shows, Home sales may reach a bottom by mid-year, according to 72 percent of the panelists, and more than six in 10 predicted housing starts will hit a trough by that time. This means home prices have further to fall, with 40 percent of the respondents forecasting that declines will continue into 2010 or later. 2. Following improvement in jobless claims. The figures have yet to include GM's disenfranchised dealers most likely retrenchment results. Also KeyCorp, the second-largest bank based in Ohio, will cut more than 300 positions this quarter, amid others. Economists surveyed by Bloomberg this month projected the jobless rate, currently at a 25-year high of 8.9 percent, will climb to 9.6 percent by the end of 2009. This month’s jobs report is due June 5. Also, don't forget there's also salary cuts and people cutting down on spending. This will still maintain a negative effect on consumer index. Less consumers, less business for retailers, then manufacturers, then... It's a never ending cycle... You can find all the above from bloomberg. So please dont ask me to give you link. Too much time spent summarizing already, if wanna check just go check latest news there. I'm gonna check cnn, cnbc and bbc next. You still haven't slept. |
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May 29 2009, 02:12 AM
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hope so le
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May 29 2009, 02:12 AM
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he around 3-4am sleep gua
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May 29 2009, 02:25 AM
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QUOTE(DJWC @ May 29 2009, 02:11 AM) Thanks omores , A Clear and Good explanation from you. Save us a lot of time. Hahaha, can't sleep. You still haven't slept. I'm long time insomniac.Added on May 29, 2009, 2:43 amDow up on crude oil and bank performance. Let's buy some commodities and banking stocks tomorrow! This post has been edited by omores: May 29 2009, 02:43 AM |
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May 29 2009, 03:24 AM
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banking here not much movement for weeks liau
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May 29 2009, 04:00 AM
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Arrghhh.. Bulls won again on Wall Street..
Got cut by shorting Financial too early in AM.. have to cover by midday.  Ok.. I've to give in to little bulls for now.. Oil looking good even though inventory is all time high.. unbelievable! |
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May 29 2009, 04:11 AM
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tomorrow SAAG, SCOMI, KNM, ALAM, KENCANA, TGOFF, OILCORP anything got to do with oil company we all queue la..
queue 5 ticks lower.. see can get or not.. haha.... |
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May 29 2009, 04:17 AM
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 29 2009, 04:11 AM) tomorrow SAAG, SCOMI, KNM, ALAM, KENCANA, TGOFF, OILCORP anything got to do with oil company we all queue la.. Personally, I believe there is a huge bubble again for Oil. Even OPEC says they don't want to cut but leave things as is,queue 5 ticks lower.. see can get or not.. haha.... speculators are pumping up.. all ready to blast to US$80/barrel by end of this July. This is crazy.. Inventory is huge.. oil tankers are afloat, not delivering as much and world consumers aren't consuming as much, fundalmentals aren't working here. Anyway, GL to you! This post has been edited by danmooncake: May 29 2009, 04:18 AM |
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May 29 2009, 04:24 AM
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if supply so much.. why oil price shoot up since no demand or no consumption..?
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May 29 2009, 04:34 AM
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 29 2009, 04:24 AM) if supply so much.. why oil price shoot up since no demand or no consumption..? That's why I said.. it's all BS speculation at the Oil market and the bubble is growing.Anyway... for oil company like KNM is totally speculative... The front runners are pumping up the front month price, consumption is far less than expected, inventory is high and contango still exist. A large amount of oil are still store on floating tankers which yet to come on shore. Maybe it is US dollar.. the 10month treasury versus 2 month gap has widen quite a bit,there is a fear of hyper-inflation, perhaps that's the reason, speculators are pumping up the Oil commodity now, much sooner than I would expect. If oil rises too fast, we won't see recovery at all.. perhaps delay out even longer. All expected recession ending at year end may disappear.. consumers may lose confidence again. This post has been edited by danmooncake: May 29 2009, 04:39 AM |
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May 29 2009, 04:38 AM
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Just finished reading my newspaper. Hahaha. I know, so outdated. Oso I wanted to add what I got from the lousy earnings report which spooked me when it was announced.
Theres a good news for TM yesterday. especially for ppl worried about not getting dividend because of huge capital repayment. 1. The good news: Today TM had securitised their employees residential loans with AmMortgage. This means extra RM349.9 million in their bank account. This adding with their current cash holdings comes up to RM2.4 bn (based on end Mar '09 and taking into account the dividend payout as well as capital repayment). 2. 2. If I remember correctly, WiNet's agreement to buy wholesale broadband service from TM have not yet been taken into account. I think it was Rm2++-3++ million (i forget dee)? So there goes another cashflow there for rest of year. A lot of ppl have been saying that TM may not pay out dividend. But with the 2.4bn cash pile, we don't have to worry about short term dividend policy. Chances are high that we'll get dividend for rest of year. Now for the skeptics. Saying that TM have not made money for 15 years. That is so v true. I understand and agree with most of what you say. TM got a lot of failings. For instance, their operational efficiency, their management and so on. They definitely need to improve their bottomline and cash flow to stay positive in say 4-5 years. But the last 15 years don't have broadband. You might say that's not a big biz that would make TM profitable. But I see broadband as constant and monthly cashflow to their P&L sheet. With fixed lines, they cannot control the ARPU (average revenue per user) or how much their customers talk in a month. But broadband, if Ah Kong subscribe RM160 package, they will surely earn this RM160 package for some time to come. If Ah Leong take only RM60 package, that income is also quite permanent. And TM have the lion chunk in broadband market. Home based users will still prefer streamyx to mobile broadband and WiMax. Current ratio of broadband and mobile broadband (3G) is still 3 to 1. And this will be a long trend until 3G make a move on pricing and coverage. Especially since new users are likely to be new internet users who would prefer cheaper rates. I don't have to go into competitive edge over WiMax cos we have talked about it earlier on. Plus they are doing well with Streamyx combo package. Not to mention all the HP package that were sold. Cost only RMxx p/month extra with your internet charges but must pay for 2 years. That's 2 years locked in cashflow. I've bought this package for my mom, the laptop's not bad, always the latest model. Look at Astro. Their earnings are rather stable, that's they can expect a regular amount of money coming in. They only have to worry about subscribing new people to sign on their package. And of course, stop ppl from cancelling their subscription (which was a huge problem few years back), I know cos I worked for them on their A&P and CRM initiatives. I'm the one responsible for sending out mailers giving incentives back to ppl to re-subscribe to Astro after they cancel their account. They are good because management is so far pretty good. I'm hoping that TM will eventually follow this leadership style. I see improvements in quality of service and quality of products TM is working on improving themselves. Some of you might not see it tho. But I do. Their customer service now is excellent. They have 24 hour hotline. I had problem with my connection 2 weeks ago. Turns out modem was spoiled. But the technician came straight away. Twice. Because we couldn't hone in the problem first time and he didn't bring new modem at first. 2nd trip he brought 2 different modems to try out somemore. During this time, the call centre called me twice to check whether my problem is solved. Again, I received a call just 2 days ago to check on my connection again. I was very impressed lo. And I was a disgruntled TM customer just a year back due to long wait for installation. But my speed was awesome and my internet connection was never down for one year. Now with the recent service I got, I actually emailed them and commended them for their great service. I'm not an easy customer to handle actually. And I'm still surprised I did that. My wonderful, problem free connection is probably due to the upgrades they are doing. My area has high speed broadband installed. They are in process of upgrading other areas now. So future streamyx users will have same problem free connection like me. Also, another plus of Telekom is they get the benefit of high speed broadband added to their product mix, with the governments money of course. Who else have opportunities like that? So you think Astro is good company? What about Maxis and her internet services? Also, I checked with my friend who uses Maxis. She complained like hell about their service. Got delay in installation. Make appointment to come but never go over to her place. Worse, they didn't even call, so she waited like dungu for it. After she chased them 3 times, they finally have it installed. Maxis is mother share of Astro (the company you praise) but they definitely scr*wed up this one time. So far, Celcom 3G is the most reliable of the lot. Also everyone got problem with the internet speed la. I used my friends Maxis 3G during my internet down time and it was so slow eventho when you log in, the icon for connection at bottom left shows 7.2MBps. I checked their internet speed via http://www.speedtest.net. 7.2Mps my ass, it was only registering at 0.38 MBps. I even have problem logging in my trading hall to trade because not enough data cant be download to keep real time prices. If you have 3G, check your connection speed via this site, its amazing. I'm very sad to learn of this as I've worked on Maxis for their Hotlink A&P and CRM initiatives (Astro joined my account later), even did some launch for their 3G services back then. A very demanding client I may add. But still I have fond memories of them. And if you like Maxis, then you should like the idea that a Maxis man was to be CEO of AXIATA. Jamaluddin Ibrahim. And performance have been pretty good. Sign that Telekom is improving on right direction. They just need to change their bad culture of makan gaji buta for decades, but that takes time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yes again, their earnings report for last quarter was lousy, but TM is not the only company suffering from bad earnings. I myself was shocked that TM did so badly. Also I will scold CEO if I see him la. But don't blame TM for causing the drop in KLCI please. It's only 1 out of 100 stocks that affects the KLCI. TM is not that powerful to cause foreign funds to flee Malaysia. If it were that powerful to affect the nation's economy, then the money i paid for it is damn worth it. Hahaha. Like a weapon of mass economic destruction. KLK oso suck ma cos lose 52% profit and KLK is top loser yesterday. They have to writedown RM142.2 million loss on the overseas investment in Yule Catto & Co plc in 1Q, and realised loss of RM23.7 million on foreign exchange. Their nutraceutical plant in Singapore, Davos Life Science Pte Ltd’s also lose money plus the retail division oso lose 11 million. LIONcorp even worse to lose quarter of billion. Genting oso suck because lose 51.5% profit due to their stupid Star Cruise and their investments in UK casinos that never seemed to have made any great contribution to their profits, why nobody complains about this beats me. Also I can bet that I'll be getting dividend from TM, but i doubt Genting will have any dividend for the next couple of years. DRB-Hicom oso suck because lose 60 million. Why nobody whack them? I could list a dozen more earnings reports that are dismally low. And all these bad earnings report are a accumulated effect plus more than expected GDP contraction is what caused the KLCI to drop. Not TM alone. We have already known that earnings report for this quarter would be bad. All got reasons, some ok reasons, some not so good because of stupid acquisition. TM is not the only one who has less than good reason.  Ok sorry, for last 2 paragraphs I was venting. I apologize. Just a lil stressed cos afraid KLSE will go up. Afraid oso KLSE will go down. Catch 22 situation. Call it PMS on my part Also I would like to thank whoever who bought the shares today and supported the price until recover back at 2.715. I think you bought too high. But never mind can still ave down. Haha.This post has been edited by omores: May 29 2009, 04:57 AM |
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May 29 2009, 04:38 AM
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can Q 5 slots?
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May 29 2009, 04:39 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 04:38 AM) Just finished reading my newspaper. Hahaha. I know, so outdated. Oso I wanted to add what I got from the lousy earnings report which spooked me when it was announced. WAH... a very long one...Theres a good news for TM yesterday. especially for ppl worried about not getting dividend because of huge capital repayment. 1. The good news: Today TM had securitised their employees residential loans with AmMortgage. This means extra RM349.9 million in their bank account. This adding with their current cash holdings comes up to RM2.4 bn (based on end Mar '09 and taking into account the dividend payout as well as capital repayment). 2. 2. If I remember correctly, WiNet's agreement to buy wholesale broadband service from TM have not yet been taken into account. I think it was Rm2++-3++ million (i forget dee)? So there goes another cashflow there for rest of year. A lot of ppl have been saying that TM may not pay out dividend. But with the 2.4bn cash pile, we don't have to worry about short term dividend policy. Chances are high that we'll get dividend for rest of year. Now for the skeptics. Saying that TM have not made money for 15 years. That is so v true. I understand and agree with most of what you say. TM got a lot of failings. For instance, their operational efficiency, their management and so on. They definitely need to improve their bottomline and cash flow to stay positive in say 4-5 years. But the last 15 years don't have broadband. You might say that's not a big biz that would make TM profitable. But I see broadband as constant and monthly cashflow to their P&L sheet. With fixed lines, they cannot control the ARPU (average revenue per user) or how much their customers talk in a month. But broadband, if Ah Kong subscribe RM160 package, they will surely earn this RM160 package for some time to come. If Ah Leong take only RM60 package, that income is also quite permanent. And TM have the lion chunk in broadband market. Home based users will still prefer streamyx to mobile broadband and WiMax. Current ratio of broadband and mobile broadband (3G) is still 3 to 1. And this will be a long trend until 3G make a move on pricing and coverage. Especially since new users are likely to be new internet users who would prefer cheaper rates. I don't have to go into competitive edge over WiMax cos we have talked about it earlier on. Plus they are doing well with Streamyx combo package. Not to mention all the HP package that were sold. Cost only RMxx p/month extra with your internet charges but must pay for 2 years. That's 2 years locked in cashflow. I've bought this package for my mom, the laptop's not bad, always the latest model. Look at Astro. Their earnings are rather stable, that's they can expect a regular amount of money coming in. They only have to worry about subscribing new people to sign on their package. And of course, stop ppl from cancelling their subscription (which was a huge problem few years back), I know cos I worked for them on their A&P and CRM initiatives. I'm the one responsible for sending out mailers giving incentives back to ppl to re-subscribe to Astro after they cancel their account. They are good because management is so far pretty good. I see improvements in quality of service and quality of products TM is working on improving themselves. Some of you might not see it tho. But I do. Their customer service now is excellent. They have 24 hour hotline. I had problem with my connection 2 weeks ago. Turns out modem was spoiled. But the technician came straight away. Twice. Because we couldn't hone in the problem first time and he didn't bring new modem at first. 2nd trip he brought 2 different modems to try out somemore. During this time, the call centre called me twice to check whether my problem is solved. Again, I received a call just 2 days ago to check on my connection again. I was very impressed lo. And I was a disgruntled TM customer just a year back due to long wait for installation. But my speed was awesome and my internet connection was never down for one year. Now with the recent service I got, I actually emailed them and commended them for their great service. I'm not an easy customer to handle actually. And I'm still surprised I did that. My wonderful, problem free connection is probably due to the upgrades they are doing. My area has high speed broadband installed. They are in process of upgrading other areas now. So future streamyx users will have same problem free connection like me. Also, another plus of Telekom is they get the benefit of high speed broadband added to their product mix, with the governments money of course. Who else have opportunities like that? So you think Astro is good company? What about Maxis and her internet services? Also, I checked with my friend who uses Maxis. She complained like hell about their service. Got delay in installation. Make appointment to come but never go over to her place. Worse, they didn't even call, so she waited like dungu for it. After she chased them 3 times, they finally have it installed. Maxis is mother share of Astro (the company you praise) but they definitely scr*wed up this one time. Also everyone got problem with the internet speed la. I used my friends 3G during my internet down time and it was so slow eventho when you log in, the icon for connection at bottom left shows 7.2MBps. I checked their internet speed via http://www.speedtest.net. 7.2Mps my ass, it was only registering at 0.38 MBps. I even have problem logging in my trading hall to trade because not enough data cant be download to keep real time prices. I'm very sad to learn of this as I've worked on Maxis for their Hotlink A&P and CRM initiatives (Astro joined my account later), even did some launch for their 3G services back then. A very demanding client I may add. But still I have fond memories of them. And if you like Maxis, then you should like the idea that a Maxis man was to be CEO of AXIATA. Jamaluddin Ibrahim. And performance have been pretty good. Sign that Telekom is improving on right direction. They just need to change their bad culture of makan gaji buta for decades, but that takes time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yes again, their earnings report for last quarter was lousy, but TM is not the only company suffering from bad earnings. I myself was shocked that TM did so badly. Also I will scold CEO if I see him la. But don't blame TM for causing the drop in KLCI please. It's only 1 out of 100 stocks that affects the KLCI. TM is not that powerful to cause foreign funds to flee Malaysia. If it were that powerful to affect the nation's economy, then the money i paid for it is damn worth it. Hahaha. Like a weapon of mass destruction. KLK oso suck ma cos lose 52% profit and KLK is top loser yesterday. They had have a writedown of RM142.2 million on the overseas quoted investment in Yule Catto & Co plc in 1Q, and realised loss of RM23.7 million on foreign exchange. Their nutraceutical plant in Singapore, Davos Life Science Pte Ltd’s also lose money plus the retail division oso lose 11 million. LIONcorp even worse to lose quarter of billion. Genting oso suck because lose 51.5% due to their stupid Star Cruise and their investments in UK casinos that never seemed to have made any great contribution to their profits, why nobody complains about this beats me. DRB-Hicom oso suck because lose 60 million. Why nobody whack them? I could list a dozen more earnings reports that are dismally low. And all these bad earnings report are a accumulated effect plus more than expected GDP contraction is what caused the KLCI to drop. Not TM alone. We have already known that earnings report for this quarter would be bad. All got reasons, some ok reasons, some not so good because of stupid acquisition. TM is not the only one who has less than good reason. Ok sorry, for last 2 paragraphs I was venting. I apologize. Just a lil stressed cos afraid KLSE will go up. Afraid oso KLSE will go down. Catch 22 situation. Call it PMS on my part |
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May 29 2009, 05:31 AM
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Based on your research, what is the expected dividend that TM should pay out for this year (in percentage based on current share price)? This post has been edited by danmooncake: May 29 2009, 05:32 AM |
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May 29 2009, 07:24 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 04:38 AM) Just finished reading my newspaper. Hahaha. I know, so outdated. Oso I wanted to add what I got from the lousy earnings report which spooked me when it was announced. Thanks for sharing ur view Theres a good news for TM yesterday. especially for ppl worried about not getting dividend because of huge capital repayment. 1. The good news: Today TM had securitised their employees residential loans with AmMortgage. This means extra RM349.9 million in their bank account. This adding with their current cash holdings comes up to RM2.4 bn (based on end Mar '09 and taking into account the dividend payout as well as capital repayment). 2. 2. If I remember correctly, WiNet's agreement to buy wholesale broadband service from TM have not yet been taken into account. I think it was Rm2++-3++ million (i forget dee)? So there goes another cashflow there for rest of year. A lot of ppl have been saying that TM may not pay out dividend. But with the 2.4bn cash pile, we don't have to worry about short term dividend policy. Chances are high that we'll get dividend for rest of year. Now for the skeptics. Saying that TM have not made money for 15 years. That is so v true. I understand and agree with most of what you say. TM got a lot of failings. For instance, their operational efficiency, their management and so on. They definitely need to improve their bottomline and cash flow to stay positive in say 4-5 years. But the last 15 years don't have broadband. You might say that's not a big biz that would make TM profitable. But I see broadband as constant and monthly cashflow to their P&L sheet. With fixed lines, they cannot control the ARPU (average revenue per user) or how much their customers talk in a month. But broadband, if Ah Kong subscribe RM160 package, they will surely earn this RM160 package for some time to come. If Ah Leong take only RM60 package, that income is also quite permanent. And TM have the lion chunk in broadband market. Home based users will still prefer streamyx to mobile broadband and WiMax. Current ratio of broadband and mobile broadband (3G) is still 3 to 1. And this will be a long trend until 3G make a move on pricing and coverage. Especially since new users are likely to be new internet users who would prefer cheaper rates. I don't have to go into competitive edge over WiMax cos we have talked about it earlier on. Plus they are doing well with Streamyx combo package. Not to mention all the HP package that were sold. Cost only RMxx p/month extra with your internet charges but must pay for 2 years. That's 2 years locked in cashflow. I've bought this package for my mom, the laptop's not bad, always the latest model. Look at Astro. Their earnings are rather stable, that's they can expect a regular amount of money coming in. They only have to worry about subscribing new people to sign on their package. And of course, stop ppl from cancelling their subscription (which was a huge problem few years back), I know cos I worked for them on their A&P and CRM initiatives. I'm the one responsible for sending out mailers giving incentives back to ppl to re-subscribe to Astro after they cancel their account. They are good because management is so far pretty good. I'm hoping that TM will eventually follow this leadership style. I see improvements in quality of service and quality of products TM is working on improving themselves. Some of you might not see it tho. But I do. Their customer service now is excellent. They have 24 hour hotline. I had problem with my connection 2 weeks ago. Turns out modem was spoiled. But the technician came straight away. Twice. Because we couldn't hone in the problem first time and he didn't bring new modem at first. 2nd trip he brought 2 different modems to try out somemore. During this time, the call centre called me twice to check whether my problem is solved. Again, I received a call just 2 days ago to check on my connection again. I was very impressed lo. And I was a disgruntled TM customer just a year back due to long wait for installation. But my speed was awesome and my internet connection was never down for one year. Now with the recent service I got, I actually emailed them and commended them for their great service. I'm not an easy customer to handle actually. And I'm still surprised I did that. My wonderful, problem free connection is probably due to the upgrades they are doing. My area has high speed broadband installed. They are in process of upgrading other areas now. So future streamyx users will have same problem free connection like me. Also, another plus of Telekom is they get the benefit of high speed broadband added to their product mix, with the governments money of course. Who else have opportunities like that? So you think Astro is good company? What about Maxis and her internet services? Also, I checked with my friend who uses Maxis. She complained like hell about their service. Got delay in installation. Make appointment to come but never go over to her place. Worse, they didn't even call, so she waited like dungu for it. After she chased them 3 times, they finally have it installed. Maxis is mother share of Astro (the company you praise) but they definitely scr*wed up this one time. So far, Celcom 3G is the most reliable of the lot. Also everyone got problem with the internet speed la. I used my friends Maxis 3G during my internet down time and it was so slow eventho when you log in, the icon for connection at bottom left shows 7.2MBps. I checked their internet speed via http://www.speedtest.net. 7.2Mps my ass, it was only registering at 0.38 MBps. I even have problem logging in my trading hall to trade because not enough data cant be download to keep real time prices. If you have 3G, check your connection speed via this site, its amazing. I'm very sad to learn of this as I've worked on Maxis for their Hotlink A&P and CRM initiatives (Astro joined my account later), even did some launch for their 3G services back then. A very demanding client I may add. But still I have fond memories of them. And if you like Maxis, then you should like the idea that a Maxis man was to be CEO of AXIATA. Jamaluddin Ibrahim. And performance have been pretty good. Sign that Telekom is improving on right direction. They just need to change their bad culture of makan gaji buta for decades, but that takes time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yes again, their earnings report for last quarter was lousy, but TM is not the only company suffering from bad earnings. I myself was shocked that TM did so badly. Also I will scold CEO if I see him la. But don't blame TM for causing the drop in KLCI please. It's only 1 out of 100 stocks that affects the KLCI. TM is not that powerful to cause foreign funds to flee Malaysia. If it were that powerful to affect the nation's economy, then the money i paid for it is damn worth it. Hahaha. Like a weapon of mass economic destruction. KLK oso suck ma cos lose 52% profit and KLK is top loser yesterday. They have to writedown RM142.2 million loss on the overseas investment in Yule Catto & Co plc in 1Q, and realised loss of RM23.7 million on foreign exchange. Their nutraceutical plant in Singapore, Davos Life Science Pte Ltd’s also lose money plus the retail division oso lose 11 million. LIONcorp even worse to lose quarter of billion. Genting oso suck because lose 51.5% profit due to their stupid Star Cruise and their investments in UK casinos that never seemed to have made any great contribution to their profits, why nobody complains about this beats me. Also I can bet that I'll be getting dividend from TM, but i doubt Genting will have any dividend for the next couple of years. DRB-Hicom oso suck because lose 60 million. Why nobody whack them? I could list a dozen more earnings reports that are dismally low. And all these bad earnings report are a accumulated effect plus more than expected GDP contraction is what caused the KLCI to drop. Not TM alone. We have already known that earnings report for this quarter would be bad. All got reasons, some ok reasons, some not so good because of stupid acquisition. TM is not the only one who has less than good reason. Ok sorry, for last 2 paragraphs I was venting. I apologize. Just a lil stressed cos afraid KLSE will go up. Afraid oso KLSE will go down. Catch 22 situation. Call it PMS on my part Also I would like to thank whoever who bought the shares today and supported the price until recover back at 2.715. I think you bought too high. But never mind can still ave down. Haha.Moonrider, u buy upon GM is going to file bankruptcy, u're really high risk taker This post has been edited by Junior83: May 29 2009, 07:32 AM |
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May 29 2009, 07:55 AM
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Hope you guys have a good trading day! I'll be off for the whole morning. Maybe in the evening will join in the fun!
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May 29 2009, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ May 29 2009, 05:31 AM) omores: Oh that's easy. TM has reiterated their annual dividend policy of RM700mil or 90% payout, whichever is higher. According to AMVEST who is more bearish about TM than RHBinvest, this is about 27 cents FY09-FY10F. The lower the price, the higher the yield. For instance price at 2.70, its a beautiful 10% (not calculated at par value k) or what I'm aiming for is 0.78% p/share price with stock price at RM3.50. Based on your research, what is the expected dividend that TM should pay out for this year (in percentage based on current share price)? Psychologically, TM must have been super confident about their performance this year to give out the capital repayment in a time where capital is hard to find and companies are definitely posting lower profits/loss. Which was why I bought the counter in the first place. It also is a point of no return k, if they end up needing money badly then they will be screw*d. They can't go issuing rights to make more money, it would make shareholders jittery and question their stupidity in giving out such huge sum of money. I'm sure the management would think about how badly it will reflect on them if they gave out money just to ask of it back by diluting shares? Hence I say it's point of no return. Money given out, TM will deal with it the best way they can. Totally unlike Resorts / YTL. The weird thing is while Resorts would do well to give back some money to shareholders, in the case of TM you see some shareholders asking TM to keep the money la to ensure they have enough cash for the IPTV and HSBB installation. Aiyo, can you imagine shareholders telling the company to keep the money. How extraordinary. Of course you would say that this is Khazanah's idea, they need 2bn without changing their stakes in TM, thus TM went along with it. Parting with RM4bn is not that big a deal, TM have enough money to sustain. Remember, TM had demerged into TM, the cash cow with low growth in voice except for broadband sector and TMI/AXIATA high growth, high capex. And TM is not spending extra capex than HSBB (which is locked in) and maybe IPTV (which may not go ahead), they aren't investing in voice anymore. So drop in ARPU for voice does not matter as much. Their big block of business is broadband. And capex will go into this. Not fair to look for growth in voice, when the capex's in broadband. Watch out for growth in broadband in the earnings report instead. And you'll find increased amount of broadband subscribers there. Ding Dong! I like a company with guts. Confidence and making psychological statements like that, I just went ahead and bought terlalu banyak biji and have not even sold yet to reduce my risk. But to warn you, I will sell half of my shares when I reach my TP in June, as I will need the money to be diversified in other counters. The other half leave there for few years unless got warning signs, like any other counter la. I'll attach reports from AMINVEST and RHBINVEST here, with dividend payout details. If you read this, then you'd realized the Q109 earnings wasn't so bad after all. Read with pinch of salt of course. But its interesting how RHB didn't change their TP price of 3.55 (with cap repayment included) before and after Q109 announcement. Of course, I'm overly bullish, so take my words with a pinch of salt. I need some salt myself to avoid over-expectation Attached File(s) 
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May 29 2009, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ May 28 2009, 10:28 PM) No, what I meant is.. is your strategy like this: yea...this is the plan la if i've the discipline Buy 20% of the first batch Buy 20% of the second batch when the price drops 20% Buy 20% of the third batch.. when the price drops another 20% .. so forth like this, slowly accumulating till you hit your 100% max? QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 28 2009, 10:43 PM) moorish... i could not agree more with your remisier especially he quoted that "Warrant you also not scare and this one is kacang putih for you" ahahahahahah QUOTE(MoonRider @ May 29 2009, 12:10 AM) As today did not get the TA-WB at 0.005 , i have made a hugh gamble to buy GMotors at $1.17 , it may be the shortest share i hold .. June 1 ...either bankrupt or survive .... you're junkie aint you RM8K+ ... hold tight and pray hard GM will not going to bankrupt ..  QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 12:15 AM) Haha congrats. Your first good company, real investment and didnt hear you say gamble, its ok, I'm putting only a little, can afford to lose. hahaha...ya, but think it'll be boring thats why still keep a bit of warrant for the kick and dun you ever sleep?I think u should frame this full purchase up. I'm not kidding Added on May 29, 2009, 12:17 am Haha you still think he's eating crow? I still think he's very pleased with himself because he 'staved off panic for one more day....' hahahaha. |
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May 29 2009, 08:46 AM
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It's going to be green today ... but hope that it's not a trap like usual ..
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May 29 2009, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 29 2009, 08:45 AM) hahaha...ya, but think it'll be boring thats why still keep a bit of warrant for the kick and dun you ever sleep? I slept for about 1.5 hours just now. Already have my grocery list. Market up or down? Good luck all |
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May 29 2009, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(Irzani @ May 29 2009, 08:46 AM) It's going to be green today ... but hope that it's not a trap like usual .. me too. hope can sell off all on rally. I want to keep cash now until big correction coming. but pre market opening seems more seller than buyer |
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May 29 2009, 08:56 AM
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KNM posted a PROFITABLE quarter. Goreng in progress to 0.90
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May 29 2009, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 29 2009, 08:56 AM) KNM posted a PROFITABLE quarter. Goreng in progress to 0.90 lets goreng until hangus |
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May 29 2009, 09:05 AM
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Lion make losses last year.
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...210551/Article/ # LION CORPORATION BHD posted a pre-tax loss of RM551.571 million for the third quarter ended March 31, 2009, compared with last year's pre-tax profit of RM50.132 million. Its revenue declined to RM521.112 million from RM1.321 billion previously. It cited the impact of the global economic turmoil and the sharp contraction in demand in the steel industry as reasons for the steep drop in performance. # LION INDUSTRIES CORPORATION BHD swung into a pre-tax loss of RM298.353 million for the third quarter ended March 31, 2009, from a pre-tax profit of RM215.677 million a year ago. Its revenue eased to RM927.134 million from RM1.693 bilion previously. |
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May 29 2009, 09:06 AM
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I read from another forum, KFIMA
they say KFIMA will announce result soon and will be good. do you think KFIMA is a good counter to buy before the announcement ? |
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May 29 2009, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 08:48 AM) I slept for about 1.5 hours just now. Already have my grocery list. i think i saw quite a few threads from u stating that u only slp for a couple of hours... Market up or down? Good luck allis it the market causing u too lose sleep? |
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May 29 2009, 09:07 AM
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Tranmil goreng-goreng!
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May 29 2009, 09:07 AM
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GREEN~~~~~
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May 29 2009, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ May 29 2009, 09:06 AM) i think i saw quite a few threads from u stating that u only slp for a couple of hours... no, I'm a long term insomniac for 6 years dee. Actually market helped me to sleep, cos now I can fall asleep in the afternoon during trading hours. Never possible for me. is it the market causing u too lose sleep? |
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May 29 2009, 09:08 AM
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this morning oil soar to USD$65/barrel
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May 29 2009, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2009, 09:08 AM) this morning oil soar to USD$65/barrel Last night oil soared. Thats why Dow went up mah. Thanks good. Or will have bloodbath. See my earlier posts. Today down by 0.32%. |
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May 29 2009, 09:13 AM
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CI might not stay green all day long..
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May 29 2009, 09:14 AM
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regional market mix or breakeven.
dow future -19 sell into rallies? |
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May 29 2009, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 29 2009, 09:13 AM) CI might not stay green all day long.. I'm staying where I'm comfortable. Still waiting to buy back FKLI to replenish the short i did yesterday. And trying to sell my speculative share. Come MKLAND! |
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May 29 2009, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2009, 09:08 AM) this morning oil soar to USD$65/barrel Speculation on oil is not good for economy recovery. hopefully it will not hit 70 |
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May 29 2009, 09:17 AM
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TMnut.. fall again after doing 275!
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May 29 2009, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(goognio @ May 29 2009, 09:15 AM) Speculation on oil is not good for economy recovery. hopefully it will not hit 70 i guess we will see $70 in another week. |
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May 29 2009, 09:17 AM
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god, TM keep on falling
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May 29 2009, 09:18 AM
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sigh. red army coming. all my sell q still not match yet
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May 29 2009, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2009, 09:07 AM) Tranmil goreng-goreng! wa... too late.. i hesitate to buy Tranmill yesterday, actually plan to buy this morning but shoot up liao |
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May 29 2009, 09:19 AM
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god~ TM 2.69, 2.7 Q suddenly gone
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May 29 2009, 09:19 AM
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Red and yellow coming slowly on the screen ...
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May 29 2009, 09:21 AM
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Hang Seng opening. If you want to buy shares now now now, please wait a least half hour to see where the trends are. Better be cautious than lose your pants.
I'm still bearish, and am waiting for my shorts in FKLI to make me mucho money. Tried to sell one of my speculative counters tapi tak jadi. Stupid MKland. This post has been edited by omores: May 29 2009, 09:22 AM |
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May 29 2009, 09:21 AM
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More RED now..!!
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May 29 2009, 09:23 AM
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Stupid CI
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May 29 2009, 09:24 AM
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I dont think we will see green today for long .. genting post a drop of 51% revenue according to the radio .. and tanjong is going to red today ..
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May 29 2009, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(goognio @ May 29 2009, 09:23 AM) Stupid CI Not stupid la. Got so many warning still surprised ka? Wait for hangseng lo. That's the best way to see if you can go up or down. I'm thinking down.Aiyo I spend so long summarizing news for you guys, so you can see the down trend, yet nobody pay attention. Aiyo. This post has been edited by omores: May 29 2009, 09:25 AM |
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May 29 2009, 09:24 AM
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TMnut falling from cliff.. didn't manage to cut lost. Haih! Today some more T+3
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May 29 2009, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 09:24 AM) Not stupid la. Got so many warning still surprised ka? HS open at 10am or 10.30am? Wait for hangseng lo. That's the best way to see if you can go up or down. I'm thinking down |
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May 29 2009, 09:27 AM
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Fundamentals dont change overnight. The reason why there was an excessive draw on oil inventory is because the refiners have been cutting back for weeks now. They were rushing last week due to the memorial weekend. Doesnt accurately reflect the real demand of oil usage. New home sales is less than expected.
Like i have advise couple of my FKLI clients, short on rallies. |
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May 29 2009, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ May 29 2009, 09:25 AM) HS open at 10am or 10.30am? 9,45 i think. Should be. |
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May 29 2009, 09:27 AM
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Good morning. Any expert advice on whether to ut loss today or hold?
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May 29 2009, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 09:24 AM) Not stupid la. Got so many warning still surprised ka? omores, ur post is too long, maybe next time more summary : "TODAY DOWN~!!" Wait for hangseng lo. That's the best way to see if you can go up or down. I'm thinking down.Aiyo I spend so long summarizing news for you guys, so you can see the down trend, yet nobody pay attention. Aiyo. |
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May 29 2009, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(jgchoo @ May 29 2009, 09:27 AM) omores, ur post is too long, maybe next time more summary : "TODAY DOWN~!!" If I say today DOWN. Then people will ask me to substantiate. Then you all see green green, and go ahead and buy. Same la. hahahaha.This post has been edited by omores: May 29 2009, 09:29 AM |
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May 29 2009, 09:30 AM
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SOS,help needed from computer sifu here.
My computer can't load most webpages though can connect to the company LAN.connection seems ok,I thought it's the network card and just changed it but still the same problem persists. I could only load very few sites(LYN included) ,using Google chrome,Firefox and IE don't load at all. What should I do?Thank you in advance and apologies to all forumers here for the OT. Can PM me the answer too. |
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May 29 2009, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 09:29 AM) If I say today DOWN. Then people will ask me to substantiate. ya, true true, maybe after ur long posts, u put : "I THINK TODAY WILL DOWN" <- bold it Then you all see green green, and go ahead and buy. Same la. hahahaha. |
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May 29 2009, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 09:29 AM) If I say today DOWN. Then people will ask me to substantiate. i think that's a wonderful piece of research, big Then you all see green green, and go ahead and buy. Same la. hahahaha. to u..... |
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May 29 2009, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ May 29 2009, 09:30 AM) SOS,help needed from computer sifu here. Try switching off modem. Pull plug out for about 10 - 15 seconds. Plug back in. Turn on modem. And pray your connection's back on. My computer can't load most webpages though can connect to the company LAN.connection seems ok,I thought it's the network card and just changed it but still the same problem persists. I could only load very few sites(LYN included) ,using Google chrome,Firefox and IE don't load at all. What should I do?Thank you in advance and apologies to all forumers here for the OT. Can PM me the answer too. Maybe should press reset oso. |
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May 29 2009, 09:32 AM
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wat happen to lionind, keep dropping?
TM 2.67? |
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May 29 2009, 09:33 AM
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very hot tips for you all
PBBANKCH and PMINDWA reason because I just sold off all, from track record whenever I sell any counter the price sure go up When I buy any counter the price sure come down |
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May 29 2009, 09:33 AM
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HSI futures at 9.45 am, HSI cash market at 10
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May 29 2009, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(jgchoo @ May 29 2009, 09:32 AM) wat happen to lionind, keep dropping? lion group posted huge losses rite?TM 2.67? |
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May 29 2009, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(jgchoo @ May 29 2009, 09:32 AM) wat happen to lionind, keep dropping? i think posted earlier finresult out not doing well or something...scroll back n seeTM 2.67? |
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May 29 2009, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 29 2009, 09:33 AM) very hot tips for you all hahaha LOL PBBANKCH and PMINDWA reason because I just sold off all, from track record whenever I sell any counter the price sure go up When I buy any counter the price sure come down |
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May 29 2009, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ May 29 2009, 09:30 AM) SOS,help needed from computer sifu here. Might be tmnet's problem, looks like you can only access local website but not international website...My computer can't load most webpages though can connect to the company LAN.connection seems ok,I thought it's the network card and just changed it but still the same problem persists. I could only load very few sites(LYN included) ,using Google chrome,Firefox and IE don't load at all. What should I do?Thank you in advance and apologies to all forumers here for the OT. Can PM me the answer too. Any news announced on TMNET's website? This post has been edited by zWinceZz: May 29 2009, 09:35 AM |
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May 29 2009, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ May 29 2009, 09:34 AM) Might be tmnet's problem, looks like you can only access local website but not international website... I think becoz of TMshare keep dropping, they cut Remisier's line! Any news announced on TMNET's website? |
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May 29 2009, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 29 2009, 09:33 AM) very hot tips for you all I am planning to buy back pmind-wa at 0.025 @ 30000 lots = RM75K , to keep for 2-3 monthsPBBANKCH and PMINDWA reason because I just sold off all, from track record whenever I sell any counter the price sure go up When I buy any counter the price sure come down |
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May 29 2009, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ May 29 2009, 09:30 AM) SOS,help needed from computer sifu here. if you're running streamyx, yesterday and day b4 DNS server down 2 times, change to open DNSMy computer can't load most webpages though can connect to the company LAN.connection seems ok,I thought it's the network card and just changed it but still the same problem persists. I could only load very few sites(LYN included) ,using Google chrome,Firefox and IE don't load at all. What should I do?Thank you in advance and apologies to all forumers here for the OT. Can PM me the answer too. open DNS 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 |
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May 29 2009, 09:37 AM
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Sell call from research house
Genting - TP 4.65 (Underperform) Asiatic - TP 5.45 (Market Perform) Mulpha - 0.510 (Strong Sell) Kinsteel - 0.885 (Take Profit) Equine - 0.560 (Take Profit) sell sell sell! |
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May 29 2009, 09:37 AM
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thinking of buying maybulk, is this a good time? for long term
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May 29 2009, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(MoonRider @ May 29 2009, 09:36 AM) I am planning to buy back pmind-wa at 0.025 @ 30000 lots = RM75K , to keep for 2-3 months I lost RM500 for PMINDWA, lost another RM500 for PBBANKCH so my portfolio -RM500 and lets see ...TGOFFS price is sliding |
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May 29 2009, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(jgchoo @ May 29 2009, 09:37 AM) thinking of buying maybulk, is this a good time? for long term good but q when mega sales. This will be bad. buy in batches. |
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May 29 2009, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2009, 09:37 AM) Sell call from research house sorry ah, which one is buy which one is sell Genting - TP 4.65 (Underperform) Asiatic - TP 5.45 (Market Perform) Mulpha - 0.510 (Strong Sell) Kinsteel - 0.885 (Take Profit) Equine - 0.560 (Take Profit) sell sell sell! |
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May 29 2009, 09:41 AM
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Bstead proposed right issues
2 right issue for 5 bstead shares right issue means company needs to accumulate more funds huh? so ppl is dumping bstead shares? |
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May 29 2009, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 09:39 AM) good but q when mega sales. This will be bad. buy in batches. cant buy in batch, I just want 1000shares to keep till I old, maybe add more after years.... |
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May 29 2009, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 29 2009, 09:41 AM) sorry ah, which one is buy which one is sell none buy call. all sell. |
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May 29 2009, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 29 2009, 09:41 AM) sorry ah, which one is buy which one is sell she wrote Sell call from research house What do you think? LOL |
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May 29 2009, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 09:32 AM) Try switching off modem. Pull plug out for about 10 - 15 seconds. Plug back in. Turn on modem. And pray your connection's back on. Maybe should press reset oso. QUOTE(zWinceZz @ May 29 2009, 09:34 AM) Might be tmnet's problem, looks like you can only access local website but not international website... Thanks for the reply.Any news announced on TMNET's website? My computer is connected to the company LAN,not direct to Streamyx using modem. My colleagues connected to the same LAN have no problem. I would appreciate you PM me any answers.As this thread is on Stocks. Thanks and the one who help me to solve the problem will get a tip on the market. but no guarantee that it will make money. joking joking. |
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May 29 2009, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2009, 09:41 AM) Bstead proposed right issues Share price will also be diluted from this exercise.2 right issue for 5 bstead shares right issue means company needs to accumulate more funds huh? so ppl is dumping bstead shares? |
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May 29 2009, 09:44 AM
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Is this the beginning of mega sales. I m thinking to cut lost now
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May 29 2009, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 09:42 AM) she wrote Sell call from research house hehehe...coz I read genting underperform, I tot the share underperform so should buy What do you think? LOL |
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May 29 2009, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 29 2009, 09:33 AM) very hot tips for you all Thanks, will monitor closely PBBANKCH and PMINDWA reason because I just sold off all, from track record whenever I sell any counter the price sure go up When I buy any counter the price sure come down |
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May 29 2009, 09:45 AM
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Base on the current price action, seems bearish
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May 29 2009, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ May 29 2009, 09:18 AM) wa... too late.. i hesitate to buy Tranmill yesterday, actually plan to buy this morning but shoot up liao hope you didnt chase high. see, now ppl got trapped. |
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ May 29 2009, 09:45 AM) Thanks, will monitor closely Moorish, not good time to buy warrant now. Especially if dropping heavily. Watch out to buy at low. |
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May 29 2009, 09:47 AM
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RED ZONE. 4 trading sessions RED.. Staring of MEGA SALES?
FENG SHUI chart time again, BUY ON DIPS |
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May 29 2009, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(goognio @ May 29 2009, 09:44 AM) Is this the beginning of mega sales. I m thinking to cut lost now People around me saying big wave coming, if good company can buy in stages, if rubbish counter like those I kept shouldcut lost, so for once I listen la. now 25% share 75% cash waiting to avg |
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May 29 2009, 09:48 AM
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May 29 2009, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 09:42 AM) Share price will also be diluted from this exercise. thanks omores. that explained why the price dropped 20 sens today.putting in my watchlist. |
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May 29 2009, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2009, 09:45 AM) hope you didnt chase high. see, now ppl got trapped. Thank for d concern, i won't unless there is huge vol like Ramunia last time 0.7x shuld be good entry for me only  |
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May 29 2009, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ May 29 2009, 09:50 AM) Thank for d concern, i won't unless there is huge vol like Ramunia last time Shorted an additional 4 lots in June FKLI. Should have done more lots la. Now so FKLI so low, damnit. 0.7x shuld be good entry for me only Buying back May FKLI 6 lots cos today's last day of contract. |
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May 29 2009, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2009, 09:48 AM) thanks omores. that explained why the price dropped 20 sens today. U are also aiming Bstead?putting in my watchlist. |
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May 29 2009, 09:53 AM
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May 29 2009, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(jgchoo @ May 29 2009, 09:27 AM) omores, ur post is too long, maybe next time more summary : "TODAY DOWN~!!" Omores, I like your summary, |
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May 29 2009, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2009, 09:41 AM) Bstead proposed right issues Generally, good and solid company never have right issue, unless involved some big lucrative and profitable business acquiring which needed to do so.2 right issue for 5 bstead shares right issue means company needs to accumulate more funds huh? so ppl is dumping bstead shares? Right issue means company has not enough money, as simple as that, so shareholders needs to fork out extra money from their pocket on top of their previous purchased cost. We invested in a company want to see return on our money aka you generate money for us, but now it is the other way round, we need to fork out extra, so no good no good. My view only. |
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May 29 2009, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 29 2009, 10:33 AM) very hot tips for you all Moorish,PBBANKCH and PMINDWA reason because I just sold off all, from track record whenever I sell any counter the price sure go up When I buy any counter the price sure come down So Good Luck meh Don't give up. Spot good counters. |
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May 29 2009, 09:55 AM
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Dont worry guys. volume is not big. so i think no panic selling yet
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May 29 2009, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ May 29 2009, 09:53 AM) U are also aiming Bstead? Ya but im waiting for megasales. Bstead won't be too much drop. but I sakit hati buy so high because last week already shoot up RM1. |
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May 29 2009, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 29 2009, 09:37 AM) if you're running streamyx, yesterday and day b4 DNS server down 2 times, change to open DNS OT open DNS 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 remisier taikor i think you missed moorish post, try her way, i got the same answer from the web as well. http://macs.about.com/od/faq1/f/browserdns.htm |
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May 29 2009, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ May 29 2009, 09:42 AM) Thanks for the reply. Your Own COmpany?? or u working for others?? Try to on9 and open the webpage @ your collegue's PC, if both cant, then check with ur pc-man, maybe ur boss found out u gamble share everyday and BLOCK the webpage My computer is connected to the company LAN,not direct to Streamyx using modem. My colleagues connected to the same LAN have no problem. I would appreciate you PM me any answers.As this thread is on Stocks. Thanks and the one who help me to solve the problem will get a tip on the market. but no guarantee that it will make money. joking joking. Alternatively try to use netscape or mozilla lor.. |
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May 29 2009, 09:57 AM
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Wow... CI dropped 11 points from opening in 1 hr.
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May 29 2009, 09:57 AM
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Don't have to worry about missing the boat guys. Next week, Dow is headed for another big fall. When you have time later on during lunch or in evening, you can scroll back and see my news summary and you'll understand why.
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May 29 2009, 09:57 AM
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Anyone knows how the average price is calculated after cap repayment for TM? Assuming buy twice at same volume
If 1st purchase is before cap repayment = $3.8 Then 2nd purchase is after cap repayment = $2.7 Then should my average price be (3.8+2.7)/2 - 0.98 ? Or should it be (3.8-0.98)+2.7 and divide 2? |
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May 29 2009, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(jgchoo @ May 29 2009, 09:37 AM) thinking of buying maybulk, is this a good time? for long term roughly went tru their latest Q1 report yesterday...... terrible result i wud say...... making loss from their operation activities.... reserved cash is getting lesser.... ard 800 mil left from previous 1 bil thank God that their investment in POSH lately turn up to b profitable..... + boost frm recent jump in BDI (any reason on the BDI jump lately?  )so i think any price above 3 is still expensive for me..... any1 wan 2 share their views? Attached File(s)
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May 29 2009, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 29 2009, 09:54 AM) Generally, good and solid company never have right issue, unless involved some big lucrative and profitable business acquiring which needed to do so. thanks cherroy. Right issue means company has not enough money, as simple as that, so shareholders needs to fork out extra money from their pocket on top of their previous purchased cost. We invested in a company want to see return on our money aka you generate money for us, but now it is the other way round, we need to fork out extra, so no good no good. My view only. i experieced that last time during liondiv time. they also have this right issues thing. and i decided to sell the share. right issues = company needs money = negative = sell! |
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May 29 2009, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(Terel @ May 29 2009, 09:57 AM) Wow... CI dropped 11 points from opening in 1 hr. u mabuk ka?? -4 nia la! later i dunno la. |
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May 29 2009, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ May 29 2009, 09:58 AM) roughly went tru their latest Q1 report yesterday...... terrible result i wud say...... Don't have time for detailed analysis yet, but I think they have enough cash position to tahan any bad news. Also, recent BDI went up, as long s CHina buys iron ores, then Maybulk will have business. So even will low charges 11,000/carrier, i think next quarter will see boost.making loss from their operation activities.... reserved cash is getting lesser.... ard 800 mil left from previous 1 bil thank God that their investment in POSH lately turn up to b profitable..... + boost frm recent jump in BDI (any reason on the BDI jump lately? )so i think any price above 3 is still expensive for me..... any1 wan 2 share their views? |
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May 29 2009, 10:02 AM
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Bstead dropping fast and furious
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May 29 2009, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 29 2009, 09:54 AM) Generally, good and solid company never have right issue, unless involved some big lucrative and profitable business acquiring which needed to do so. yea hor, never tot of this, makes senseRight issue means company has not enough money, as simple as that, so shareholders needs to fork out extra money from their pocket on top of their previous purchased cost. We invested in a company want to see return on our money aka you generate money for us, but now it is the other way round, we need to fork out extra, so no good no good. My view only. |
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May 29 2009, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ May 29 2009, 10:02 AM) Bstead dropping fast and furious pity those who ride the boat yesterday. wrong timing. |
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May 29 2009, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2009, 10:00 AM) u mabuk ka?? -4 nia la! no la, he not mabuk. From HIGH PEAK to NOW - brapa? later i dunno la. 1047 - 1036 = 11 points |
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May 29 2009, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ May 29 2009, 09:42 AM) Thanks for the reply. get a spyware remover program (recomend Lavasoft Ad-Aware Pro) & program HIJACKTHIS to remove ALIEN software UNINTENTIONALLY infested in your system.. (if your pc not ok for internet access but other pc ok)My computer is connected to the company LAN,not direct to Streamyx using modem. My colleagues connected to the same LAN have no problem. I would appreciate you PM me any answers.As this thread is on Stocks. Thanks and the one who help me to solve the problem will get a tip on the market. but no guarantee that it will make money. joking joking.hope it will help a bit lor... |
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May 29 2009, 10:10 AM
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taking profit on boustead now b4 making losses
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May 29 2009, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(yeeeeko @ May 29 2009, 10:10 AM) taking profit on boustead now b4 making losses Haha good job! I wish I managed to sell my MKLAND in time but I bought too high la. |
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May 29 2009, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 29 2009, 10:08 AM) no la, he not mabuk. From HIGH PEAK to NOW - brapa? oh alright, apology then.1047 - 1036 = 11 points today is the 4th day of continuous drop. |
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May 29 2009, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2009, 10:13 AM) oh alright, apology then. Today not over yet...today is the 4th day of continuous drop. |
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May 29 2009, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ May 29 2009, 09:42 AM) Thanks for the reply. If you're using IE, have you done InternetOption -> delete temp files, cookiesMy computer is connected to the company LAN,not direct to Streamyx using modem. My colleagues connected to the same LAN have no problem. I would appreciate you PM me any answers.As this thread is on Stocks. Thanks and the one who help me to solve the problem will get a tip on the market. but no guarantee that it will make money. joking joking. |
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May 29 2009, 10:26 AM
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now who say FS chart is not real!!!
 May is a disaster month!!! next... June - August, flat, so go holiday or hibernate liao. Bull is coming bk in Aug!!! This post has been edited by panasonic88: May 29 2009, 10:28 AM |
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May 29 2009, 10:27 AM
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Fark - AXIATA is better than TMnut!
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May 29 2009, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2009, 10:26 AM) now who say FS chart is not real!!! FS chart is not real May is a disaster month!!! next... June - August, flat, and go holiday or hibernate liao. Bull is coming bk in Aug!!! Because only drop now. Lol. and there should be some volatility thats not included in chart.This post has been edited by omores: May 29 2009, 10:28 AM |
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May 29 2009, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 10:27 AM) FS chart is not real adjust the date slightly the lines are the same Because only drop now. Lol. and there should be some volatility thats not included in chart. |
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May 29 2009, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 29 2009, 10:27 AM) Fark - AXIATA is better than TMnut! TM is better, but too many fickle minded speculators holding it already. One day wanna buy, one day wanna sell. but Axiata good oso la. |
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May 29 2009, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 29 2009, 10:29 AM) adjust the date slightly the lines are the same In other words may till august is the best time to accumulate shares |
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May 29 2009, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 10:30 AM) TM is better, but too many fickle minded speculators holding it already. One day wanna buy, one day wanna sell. axiata prolly a better bet for short term specualation.. but Axiata good oso la.counter is liquid, when market rallies Axiata tend to track the markets performance. |
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May 29 2009, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(kroegand @ May 29 2009, 10:31 AM) In other words may till august is the best time to accumulate shares end of june till end of aug rock bottom... best price |
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May 29 2009, 10:33 AM
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I never buy TM .. they are big bullies .. hope the stocks drop belom RM1
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May 29 2009, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(kroegand @ May 29 2009, 10:31 AM) In other words may till august is the best time to accumulate shares June is best time. Added on May 29, 2009, 10:35 am QUOTE(MoonRider @ May 29 2009, 10:33 AM) I never buy TM .. they are big bullies .. hope the stocks drop belom RM1 Haha resorts more bully. Hold so much money accumulate accumulate, show off, but never do anything about it cos traders see it and drool. Marketing gimmick. This post has been edited by omores: May 29 2009, 10:35 AM |
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May 29 2009, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 29 2009, 10:33 AM) end of june till end of aug rock bottom... best price nice tips ... but unfortunately no bullet anymore... wanna borrow from along but afraid geting beaten if cannot pay back |
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May 29 2009, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(kroegand @ May 29 2009, 10:36 AM) nice tips ... but unfortunately no bullet anymore... wanna borrow from along but afraid geting beaten if cannot pay back later kena chained up wif big lockers, tortured and given 5 pcs of bread a day! as per yesterday's news. |
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May 29 2009, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(kroegand @ May 29 2009, 10:36 AM) nice tips ... but unfortunately no bullet anymore... wanna borrow from along but afraid geting beaten if cannot pay back now ahlong dun beat u up 1, they chain u! c yesterday report.... |
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May 29 2009, 10:39 AM
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Wah PIE is top gainer. I asked about it just yesterday but nobody answered... Didn't buy.
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May 29 2009, 10:45 AM
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ci is easing now....? lets end with greeny day
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May 29 2009, 10:45 AM
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CI coming up~~~
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May 29 2009, 10:46 AM
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TMnet... big shark are playing with the counter. .. can see seller throwing big quantity at lower price and small buyer past few days
They will let it fall till .... not sure when they will start buying back yet. Lionind also i feel got some insider ppl pushing up its price since last week, they know the financial report is bad but want others to support the price so it wont drop much once report out. I'm queing to buy at lower price.. din drop much yet..  QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 29 2009, 10:27 AM) Fark - AXIATA is better than TMnut! |
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May 29 2009, 10:47 AM
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nice V chart for AXIATA - pulling the CI back up..
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May 29 2009, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 10:39 AM) Wah PIE is top gainer. I asked about it just yesterday but nobody answered... Didn't buy. i ask about it weeks ago, but no 1 answer....PIE pay dividend 18+23s, after announce that, price jump from 3.x ~ 4.5 now still haven't drop back to before annoucement. Added on May 29, 2009, 10:52 ammsniaga good? q @ 1.78, possible can't get it... This post has been edited by jgchoo: May 29 2009, 10:52 AM |
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QUOTE(viper88 @ May 29 2009, 10:46 AM) TMnet... big shark are playing with the counter. .. can see seller throwing big quantity at lower price and small buyer past few days Very easy to manipulate when you have 1 - 1.5 billion trading volume only. Thats why up down up down, cos sharks buy create demand, then they sell again, create picture of loss.They will let it fall till .... not sure when they will start buying back yet. Lionind also i feel got some insider ppl pushing up its price since last week, they know the financial report is bad but want others to support the price so it wont drop much once report out. I'm queing to buy at lower price.. din drop much yet.. If we were trading with volume at 2.5 billion, then story might be different. When bull will really bull, when bear will really bear. Remember when ci drop like mad, the trading volume was 4 billion. Actually that was very bad oso. |
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May 29 2009, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 29 2009, 10:45 AM) CI coming up~~~ Yes...thinks are turning round... Only 80% of my counters red now.... |
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May 29 2009, 10:53 AM
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KL futures turn green, chances are high that KLSE may end green too
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May 29 2009, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(twtang @ May 28 2009, 02:28 PM) any program that can watch stocks real time? Yes, u just browse the osk 188 financial portal. and make sure you have trading account number and register it. It so easy.Last time got one small program, just key in the no. of the stock and can show u real time. Can help? |
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QUOTE(sharesa @ May 29 2009, 10:53 AM) KL futures turn green, chances are high that KLSE may end green too window dressinglike someone mentioned, some buggers will manipulate by buying 1-lot to push up the CI, and make it close in greeeeeeeeen. This post has been edited by panasonic88: May 29 2009, 10:55 AM |
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IOI stagnant at 4.58/4.60 now. dunno will go down further or not...
IOI gambateh! p/s: buggers still keep on throwing with big lots. yeaw siu!! This post has been edited by panasonic88: May 29 2009, 11:02 AM |
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May 29 2009, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ May 29 2009, 10:53 AM) KL futures turn green, chances are high that KLSE may end green too Just curious, where you guys get KL futures info? |
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May 29 2009, 10:59 AM
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HSI negative divergence, beware of pullback
Added on May 29, 2009, 11:00 am QUOTE(fatw3apon @ May 28 2009, 07:59 PM) Just curious, where you guys get KL futures info? You can get it via opening a free account with OSK. This post has been edited by AdamG1981: May 29 2009, 11:00 AM |
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QUOTE(sharesa @ May 29 2009, 10:53 AM) KL futures turn green, chances are high that KLSE may end green too Its only 11am. Sharks making good profit by buying up shares and propping CI now. Question is will they start profit taking late evening or afternoon. |
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May 29 2009, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2009, 10:56 AM) IOI stagnant at 3.58/3.60 now. dunno will go down further or not... Pan jie, i sapu lo if really 3.58/3.6 IOI gambateh! p/s: buggers still keep on throwing with big lots. yeaw siu!! |
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May 29 2009, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(fatw3apon @ May 29 2009, 10:59 AM) Just curious, where you guys get KL futures info? Some investment bank got link to see the thingy. Look for derivatives somewhere in your browser.You can oso go to here to see worldwide. http://www.cnbc.com/id/17689937 |
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May 29 2009, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ May 29 2009, 11:01 AM) Pan jie, i sapu lo if really 3.58/3.6 eeeee sori sori, edited. |
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May 29 2009, 11:03 AM
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[quote=sharesa,May 29 2009, 10:53 AM]
KL futures turn green, chances are high that KLSE may end green too [/quot Yes It is right, i agree and may be it will turn to red |
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May 29 2009, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 29 2009, 10:59 AM) HSI negative divergence, beware of pullback Sure, can i open an account with you? Added on May 29, 2009, 11:00 am You can get it via opening a free account with OSK. I can buy sell metals and so on with the futures account right? |
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May 29 2009, 11:07 AM
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TA-WB 0.005 jor.
where is our dare devils!!! counting down... less than a week. |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2009, 11:07 AM) TA-WB 0.005 jor. Give hope adi .. 1 million queue siao .. where is our dare devils!!! counting down... less than a week. I rather buy moorish pbbank-ch at 0.015 |
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moonrider, u bought ta-wb le?
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[quote=comel@09,May 29 2009, 11:03 AM]
[quote=sharesa,May 29 2009, 10:53 AM] KL futures turn green, chances are high that KLSE may end green too [/quot Yes It is right, i agree and may be it will turn to red [/quote] oil down slightly, even gas is down but slightly la. gold and silver up. FCPO just opened. Down trend now. Dow futures -12. Not bad. Still riding on oil prices. Looks like a confused direction to me. i'm still bearish. If can't buy at my tp, I'm sure I can buy next week. * I'm so glad I asked my friend to sell her UEMLand at 1.62 and 1.63. Now only 1.58 went down 1.52 somemore. This post has been edited by omores: May 29 2009, 11:12 AM |
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Still lower than my TP..
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May 29 2009, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(fatw3apon @ May 28 2009, 08:03 PM) Sure, can i open an account with you? No, only cpo and fkli. I can buy sell metals and so on with the futures account right? Yes, you can call me to make an appointment or i can mail you the brochures and the application form |
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May 29 2009, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2009, 11:07 AM) TA-WB 0.005 jor. hahaha, from the buy and sell q, i see ppl who bot at 0.05 is having trouble selling at 0.1. Everyone want to buy lowest price. Who's gonna buy at 0.10.where is our dare devils!!! counting down... less than a week. |
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May 29 2009, 11:18 AM
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China reports 1st case of swine flu
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May 29 2009, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 11:15 AM) hahaha, from the buy and sell q, i see ppl who bot at 0.05 is having trouble selling at 0.1. Everyone want to buy lowest price. Who's gonna buy at 0.10. imagine one day b4 the maturity, you queue to sell and you realised that there is NO BUYER buying from you! horrible |
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May 29 2009, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ May 29 2009, 10:53 AM) KL futures turn green, chances are high that KLSE may end green too An info on HWGB This post has been edited by SKY 1809: May 29 2009, 11:23 AM |
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May 29 2009, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 11:15 AM) hahaha, from the buy and sell q, i see ppl who bot at 0.05 is having trouble selling at 0.1. Everyone want to buy lowest price. Who's gonna buy at 0.10. Unless is a water fish.. |
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May 29 2009, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2009, 11:19 AM) imagine one day b4 the maturity, you queue to sell and you realised that there is NO BUYER buying from you! I think this is a risk they should know already lo. Like moorish, lose only RM500 mah. At least she bot small quantity. horrible Those who bought huge amount will be in trouble. if buy 50,000 units or 150,000 units (or the dude who spent RM140,000 i wonder what happened to him), will find it hard to convert their warrant into TA. So for no reason lose money that way. Even if convert in part, your TA shares coupled with loss of other warrants you don't convert, if you put in the loss under TA, you 'll have to wait til TA shoot up somewhat before recover back your losses |
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May 29 2009, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 09:32 AM) Try switching off modem. Pull plug out for about 10 - 15 seconds. Plug back in. Turn on modem. And pray your connection's back on. Company LAN? I think some company will order the network administrator to block certain sites.Maybe should press reset oso. If not the employee cannot concentrate on work.... |
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May 29 2009, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 29 2009, 11:18 AM) China reports 1st case of swine flu with more than a billion people and lots of foreigners, it's a surprise they did not confirm more cases or earlier. |
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May 29 2009, 11:26 AM
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As I said , if i manage to buy at 0.005 .. will try to sell at 0.01 these 2-3 days ..
else just sell at 0.005 .. u lost the broker fees only .. reason 0.005 is the bottom already ... |
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May 29 2009, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(MoonRider @ May 29 2009, 11:26 AM) As I said , if i manage to buy at 0.005 .. will try to sell at 0.01 these 2-3 days .. Good for you... else just sell at 0.005 .. u lost the broker fees only .. reason 0.005 is the bottom already ... |
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May 29 2009, 11:30 AM
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SAAG+MKLand = green. Q low2x tak kena.
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May 29 2009, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 29 2009, 11:27 AM) Good for you... 2 bad .. i have give up the hope yesterday and go to buy GM at 1.1x ..... today may be the last day GM listed in NYSE .. unless uturn .. then it may easily shoot up to $2 .. |
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May 29 2009, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(dirtyrat @ May 29 2009, 11:26 AM) with more than a billion people and lots of foreigners, it's a surprise they did not confirm more cases or earlier. Got flu cases earlier. China learnt a lot from SARS, they've spent quite a mint on their center of disease control (or something like that). Trust my, they'd be super efficient at containing it. When first news of H1N1 came up, i think they already prepare thermostat reading at the immigration in airports. I remember how stringent they were. A few times i got scared i had to be quarantined when i flew in and out between china and cambodia, because the change in weather too extreme for me, so always get flu that time. Cambodia oso got SARs scare. Very boring one ok, get quarantined. You are stuck while people do tests to you for one whole week, cannot leave your ward room. I always put ice on forehead and face before going thru immigration then. Hehehehe. |
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May 29 2009, 11:32 AM
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For those wish to speculate on TA-WB at 0.005.
At 0.005 although the price seem neglible or can't get even lower, you have potential to lose your 100% of your capital. So better know the risk first before commiting. Even if TA bounce back afterwards, to say like 1.10, you make 1000% out of it, but it has been suspended, then if you have bought 500 lots, then you need to fork out 50K cash to convert to realise the gain. |
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May 29 2009, 11:32 AM
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Someone acctually bought TA-WB @ 0.01
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May 29 2009, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 29 2009, 11:32 AM) Someone acctually bought TA-WB @ 0.01 maybe Alicia Tiah herself |
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May 29 2009, 11:36 AM
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Anyone got RESORTS here?
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May 29 2009, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 11:32 AM) I always put ice on forehead and face before going thru immigration then. Hehehehe. Good advice. I'll try to remember that when travelling. |
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May 29 2009, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 29 2009, 11:36 AM) Anyone got RESORTS here? me. Have 20,000 shares average about 2.45+ |
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May 29 2009, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 29 2009, 11:36 AM) Anyone got RESORTS here? me @ 2.78 |
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May 29 2009, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(omores @ May 29 2009, 11:23 AM) I think this is a risk they should know already lo. Like moorish, lose only RM500 mah. At least she bot small quantity. FYI I'm still on que, I think can never get la at this price, que since early yesterday morning and this morningThose who bought huge amount will be in trouble. if buy 50,000 units or 150,000 units (or the dude who spent RM140,000 i wonder what happened to him), will find it hard to convert their warrant into TA. So for no reason lose money that way. Even if convert in part, your TA shares coupled with loss of other warrants you don't convert, if you put in the loss under TA, you 'll have to wait til TA shoot up somewhat before recover back your losses QUOTE(MoonRider @ May 29 2009, 11:26 AM) As I said , if i manage to buy at 0.005 .. will try to sell at 0.01 these 2-3 days .. I'm planning the same also else just sell at 0.005 .. u lost the broker fees only .. reason 0.005 is the bottom already ... Yeah my tgoffs price came up a bit |
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May 29 2009, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ May 29 2009, 11:37 AM) me. Have 20,000 shares average about 2.45+ Wow, nice price you got there.. no intension to sell off?QUOTE(.:BreT:. @ May 29 2009, 11:37 AM) me @ 2.78 We're in same boat ya... i got it on 2.79.. damn the highest... |
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May 29 2009, 11:40 AM
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sold all @ 2.75 last time
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May 29 2009, 11:41 AM
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waa my KNM going up
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May 29 2009, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 29 2009, 11:40 AM) Wow, nice price you got there.. no intension to sell off? not yet-lah.... would be a waste if I sell. Dunno which counter to buy next , all went up already.We're in same boat ya... i got it on 2.79.. damn the highest... |
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May 29 2009, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ May 29 2009, 11:41 AM) not yet-lah.... would be a waste if I sell. Dunno which counter to buy next , all went up already. True, true~ Added on May 29, 2009, 11:43 am QUOTE(dingdong985 @ May 29 2009, 11:40 AM) sold all @ 2.75 last time How much you bought?This post has been edited by cliffang83: May 29 2009, 11:43 AM |
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May 29 2009, 11:45 AM
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i bought at 2.5 last time
when it shoot up 0.11 in 1 day |
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May 29 2009, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(dingdong985 @ May 29 2009, 11:45 AM) i bought at 2.5 last time You are earning money bro, what so sad about?when it shoot up 0.11 in 1 day |
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May 29 2009, 11:54 AM
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i sell it then oni heard the rumors they entering to macau/vegas
shud aim for rm3 haih... now going for knm dy.. but @0.815 |
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May 29 2009, 11:54 AM
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mmmm why suddenly CI green =S
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May 29 2009, 11:58 AM
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KNN, KNM didnt match even at 0.835, flying high to 0.865.. shiat, wait its 0.875!
Lol, 0.90 is within reach. The best share, rose from dead of 33cts! |
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May 29 2009, 11:59 AM
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greedisgood
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May 29 2009, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 29 2009, 09:53 AM) time 1.85 oilcorp jump back 0.475, everytime we see the counter up will scold ourselves, but when heading red zone we scare to buyoilcorp 0.435 |
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May 29 2009, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ May 29 2009, 11:40 AM) Wow, nice price you got there.. no intension to sell off? u r wrong! I'm the higest! @ 2.83 We're in same boat ya... i got it on 2.79.. damn the highest... |
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