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post May 31 2009, 09:04 PM

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i believe the current rally do have foreign funds involvement because from March to May the Malay dollar vs US dollar strenghten from 3.7255 to 3.489 -
On 28 (3.523)& 29 (3.5075) May the Malay dollar shows signs of weakening.

If we look at the current rally general trend it's still intact. What about coming weeks?
Can it reach 1070?

This post has been edited by Kinitos: May 31 2009, 09:05 PM
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post May 31 2009, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(Kinitos @ May 31 2009, 09:04 PM)
i believe the current rally do have foreign funds involvement because from March to May the Malay dollar vs US dollar strenghten from 3.7255 to 3.489 -
On 28 (3.523)& 29 (3.5075) May the Malay dollar shows signs of weakening.

If we look at the current rally general trend it's still intact. What about coming weeks?
Can it reach 1070?
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yes you are right, at least that's what Yusry the Bursa Head says.
Foreign funds have started to buy in Malaysian shares recently. Come this June, more will be involved with the Invest Malaysia Campaign.
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post May 31 2009, 10:16 PM

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post May 31 2009, 10:42 PM

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I'm not sure if Bursa and Dow Jones will be red or green the coming week.

One thing I've learned is that things never turn out the way we expected.

Come what may, I'm prepared. I have 100% of my bullets and my balls are made of steel tongue.gif


Added on May 31, 2009, 10:45 pm
QUOTE(chyaw @ May 31 2009, 08:09 AM)
Mind to tell us which stockbroking company? We can goreng the counter! rclxms.gif
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I'm sorry, but naming the company might get LYN sued. Best if you ask your remisier wink.gif

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post May 31 2009, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(omores @ May 31 2009, 07:56 PM)
Hold on to your good counters, don't sell at loss if you have HOLDING power. If its at profit, well you can decide to hold or sell depending on the sector and your confidence in the company. But make sure you have enough to average down if need be and buy in batches (in case of further drop) to conserve your funds. The last person remaining, who had shot at some good shares on the way down but still with bullets left will be the most rewarded. Make sure you don't shoot all your bullets now if you are playing contra.
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thanks for the points
i have exceptionally strong holding power that it might be bad. no stop loss

guess i'll sit on the sideline now

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post May 31 2009, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(omores @ May 31 2009, 07:56 PM)
Reits would do well in coming downtime, as ppl will go for defensive stocks. So hold it tight and hope that they don't lose their tenants. smile.gif

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To add a point, reit can be served one of hedging tool if inflation is back, as properties price and worth generally goes hand to hand with inflation rate.

So you have double play on it. Dividend + hedge against inflation.

Main risk - getting tenants.

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QUOTE(Kinitos @ May 31 2009, 09:04 PM)
i believe the current rally do have foreign funds involvement because from March to May the Malay dollar vs US dollar strenghten from 3.7255 to 3.489 -
On 28 (3.523)& 29 (3.5075) May the Malay dollar shows signs of weakening.

If we look at the current rally general trend it's still intact. What about coming weeks?
Can it reach 1070?
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I don't think it is significant, yes it got some inflow, but not major or large scale.

As BNM's foreign currency reserves cannot lie which is not showing sign of major flow in despite still recording good trade surplus every month.

RM vs USD movement is more in line with USD major movement in against major pair. In fact RM appreciating less compared to most currencies vs USD.


PS: There is no Malaysia dollar, only RM or US dollar, or Aussie dollar, it just makes it hard to read only. smile.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 31 2009, 11:42 PM)
I don't think it is significant, yes it got some inflow, but not major or large scale.

As BNM's foreign currency reserves cannot lie which is not showing sign of major flow in despite still recording good trade surplus every month.

RM vs USD movement is more in line with USD major movement in against major pair. In fact RM appreciating less compared to most currencies vs USD.
PS: There is no Malaysia dollar, only RM or US dollar, or Aussie dollar, it just makes it hard to read only.  smile.gif
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hmm.gif Also.. doesn't BNM still actively managing the currency rate ratio between a certain percentage point?

Therefore, I am not sure if higher or lower exchange rate is a good indicator for either inflow/outflow of investment in Malaysia equities market if BNM is still manipulating the exchange rate behind the scene.




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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jun 1 2009, 12:47 AM)
hmm.gif  Also.. doesn't BNM still actively managing the currency rate ratio between a certain percentage point? 

Therefore, I am not sure if higher or lower exchange rate is a good indicator for either inflow/outflow of investment in Malaysia equities market if BNM is still manipulating the exchange rate behind the scene.
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what do u mean by still?
can they actually manipulate exchange rate? i doubt so
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 31 2009, 11:37 PM)
To add a point, reit can be served one of hedging tool if inflation is back, as properties price and worth generally goes hand to hand with inflation rate.

So you have double play on it. Dividend + hedge against inflation.

Main risk - getting tenants.
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But.. hold on a sec here.

Read this article:
http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Asia/Ma...a/Price-History

The charts seem to imply house prices for the last 2 years has gone down 2%-5% but inflation has gone up 8% same time period.

Can REIT in Malaysia can be used to hedge against inflation? Oversupply is not an issue?

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post Jun 1 2009, 01:04 AM

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gonna sleep early...
tomorrow hail TM NUTS!!!
Gonna pump 20% of my total investment into the Suckmyx company...
30% into IOI
20% into TMCLIFE (been monitoring it for months)
good nite.... waking up by 8AM
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QUOTE(speed7791 @ May 31 2009, 08:32 PM)
US unemployment number should see an increase the following month or months ahead. GM's bankcruptcy will definately have an impact on the unemployment numbers. whether the market has already discounted that remains to be seen.
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Hmmmm...I'm not sure if some people understand the concept (and reality) of Chapter 11 or Chapter 7 bankruptcy in the US.
It's not like bankruptcy here you know.
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Jun 1 2009, 01:10 AM)
Hmmmm...I'm not sure if some people understand the concept (and reality) of Chapter 11 or Chapter 7 bankruptcy in the US.
It's not like bankruptcy here you know.
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care to eleborate?
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QUOTE(Kinitos @ May 31 2009, 09:04 PM)
i believe the current rally do have foreign funds involvement because from March to May the Malay dollar vs US dollar strenghten from 3.7255 to 3.489 -
On 28 (3.523)& 29 (3.5075) May the Malay dollar shows signs of weakening.

If we look at the current rally general trend it's still intact. What about coming weeks?
Can it reach 1070?
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Not sure what you mean..... hmm.gif
But :
In May 2008 it was MYR 3.16 = USD1.00.
I know that for a fact as I made a lot of money out of it.

So - the point is?
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Jun 1 2009, 01:10 AM)
Hmmmm...I'm not sure if some people understand the concept (and reality) of Chapter 11 or Chapter 7 bankruptcy in the US.
It's not like bankruptcy here you know.
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I think speed7791 point is more on unemployment effect caused by GM rather than the concept of Chp 11 bankruptcy per se.
GM closing of its distributorships and shutting down orders will definitely have domino effects.

Yes, the market will expect a huge number of unemployment in US (and elsewhere too because GM imports a lot parts from elsewhere) but whether it is larger or smaller than expected remains to be seen. I expect US unemployment to go double digit soon and if the claims are much much larger, 2%-3% higher.., signs are indicating not getting 'less worse', we'll see further pullbacks. nod.gif


Added on June 1, 2009, 1:22 am
QUOTE(aichiban @ Jun 1 2009, 12:56 AM)
what do u mean by still?
can they actually manipulate exchange rate? i doubt so
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Yes..they are being manipulated.. The Ringgit is not freely floated yet.. still being actively "managed". biggrin.gif
Our govt where can give up controlled so easily?

They're very paranoid of being attacked by another George Soros wannabe.





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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Jun 1 2009, 01:12 AM)
care to eleborate?
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It's easy to google the relevant facts about US bankruptcy laws. So you may care to do that if you're particularly interested. Chrylser's recent bankruptcy filing is a good place to start if you're interested in the US auto industry. It's currently being seen in the US as rather a successful development for that company.

But Chapter 11 bankruptcy mainly protects a company from its creditors under the supervision of a bankruptcy judge and enables the company to rapidly re-structure assets and liabilities (debt). The intention is to allow the company to survive and keep trading.

it does not mean the factories being closed down and tens of thousands of workers being laid off at the stroke of midnight on June 1st.


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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 31 2009, 06:30 PM)
moorish... i thought you average down to 1.30??
For O&G i guess should be fine since the Crude Oil pricess is 66 UDS le...
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no la the day I bought that afternoon it drop for awhile to 1.300 but I din pick up, reserving cash for the 15-20% drop, this is loooooong term planning.

QUOTE(protonw @ May 31 2009, 06:32 PM)
Moorish, I am same here.  Now starts to wonder I should collect TM last whole week cos buying low and low, scare the boat leave the port. Maybe I should just see tomorrow.  Should I sell all my Maybank and collect my profit or hold for dividend.... Hai! tou hao luan rclxub.gif

Newbie really don't understand a lot of technical issue here sweat.gif
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 31 2009, 06:37 PM)
hey.. i am gonna collect TM very very very soon...
Tomorrow will queue @ 2.58-20%, 2.54-30%, 2.50-50%
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Yea I'm also tempted to go into TM so cheap but remiser advised not to do so instead ask me go for O&G

QUOTE(omores @ May 31 2009, 07:56 PM)

Why worry? You are not playing warrants. smile.gif Haha. TGOFFS can still survive with only a little damage because of oil prices. Ppl will want to lock in equipment and building rigs when materials still cheap before Crude Oil goes up causing everything else to go haywire again. Be cautious tho, as your price is a little high. But you still go money left right? Don't worry, be zen.

Once crude oil goes up, manufacturing, airlines, retail will be hit badly again.
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Yes omeres that was exactly my ques, I think I picked up tgoffs slightly at the higher side

QUOTE(MoonRider @ May 31 2009, 08:16 PM)
I think the most safest share to buy is oil n gas stock .. it will remain stable for at least 1-2 months from now .. 

Tommorow likely share will go up in the morning ... strong plantation support stocks ..
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was told the same also.

QUOTE(viper88 @ May 31 2009, 08:40 PM)
How much u put in TGoffs?  hmm.gif
My remiser alwys says if market is getting hot very toppish/unstable, its time to trim down shares and get some profit, dun hold too much stock. Hold some cash for backup in case any big drop in share market. Later when market more stable can consider buying back some to average down price for those good stock.

TGOffs is a good shares, i will like to buy some if it drop to RM1.

Its recent dividen 4sen and 2 sen really yummy. Tabung Haji accumulating it recently, should have some strong support. Unless if oil price drop to USD 30 again.. its price wont swing much.
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Yes I was told the exact same thing, remiser say lay off for awhile, market is getting very very volatile, then he says if really hand itchy then he told me pick up tgoffs he say not much risk but aim long term.
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Morning guys... me just woke up.... yawn.gif

Today holiday in Sarawak! rclxm9.gif

Wat to goreng today.....

Wow... KNM already +2.5 sen pre-open! shocking.gif
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today & tomorrow is Hari Gawai, kan. PH on monday, syiok! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jun 1 2009, 08:53 AM)
today & tomorrow is Hari Gawai, kan. PH on monday, syiok! biggrin.gif
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Yup! I thought today going to be a bloodbath so that I can start to accumulate again... looks like it's not... sad.gif

Wonder whether it is a TARP.... hmm.gif

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