IMO, we just need to play the old formation. The usual 4-4-2. Nani and the RW/LW to cross in the ball for Rooney or Berba.

For the past 2 seasons, we focused too much on Ronaldo. We made use of his goalscoring abilities to the fullest. We've seen what Rooney can do when he is at his best position.

Berba was brought in to accomodate him. Berba is a good goal scorer too. Now, Nani and maybe Tosic/Park need to be train well enough. Heck, if Glenn Johnson could do it, why not Nani/Tosic/Park do it?

And Ronaldo + Tevez scored 40 goals combined. Why would Nani need to score X + what Ronaldo scored? We're replacing like for like.

Take away the number of goals from set pieces for Ronaldo and then compare it with Berbatov's - no difference and add to the fact Berbatov played 10 less games than Ronaldo. Tevez scored 15 to Nani's 6 but Tevez played 11 more games than Nani and sure as hell more minutes than Nani.

Ronaldo + Tevez - set piece goals = 30+
Berbs + Nani = 20.

This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Jun 20 2009, 11:41 PM

they can put vidic as striker

Seriously man, lemme just put in as simple as possible, we need a solution to replace RONALDO + TEVEZ.

Thanks kobe. I guess only both of us believe in Nani and Berba.

Seriously, has not what I've mentioned been other than ONE OF MANY POSSIBLE solutions to replace Ronaldo + Tevez?

You mentioned that Tevez and Ronaldo need to be replaced. Fair enough you throw in their worth in terms of goals. On the other side of the argument, Berba + Nani have scored 10 less goals (again set piece goals taken out for fairer representation) only because of fewer minutes.

And then you still mention we need to replace Ronaldo and Tevez without anything other than sign X and Y where both X and Y aren't likely to come.

Ribery - Madrid bound, Chelsea ahead as well - we won't be in a bidding war
Benzema - WC year, not likely to risk his place in national team for a place on the bench at OT>

oh no, please do not think that the rest of us don't trust Nani and Berba, but to actually do it next season and produce immediate results, to actually fill the void Ronaldo and Tevez has left us - that's a a whole new question.

You obviously don't. Otherwise, you wouldn't constantly moan for new targets. And who's to say new targets produce immediate results? Oh, it's soooo easy to get transfer targets and have them adapt to the climate and football in England. No wonder Vidic, Evra, Tevez and Mascherano all had wonderful first seasons in England.

New signings do not guarantee results. We'd have an equal, if not better chance with Berbs and Nani.

You shouldn't take away set pieces. Ronaldo is our main set piece taker, well freekicks at least. who's gonna take them now, and score them? And like I said, don't undermine the power of money, Ribery and Benzema might still come to United and I'm most certain at least one will arrive (Benzema most likely).

lol u guys actually believe nani will step up and replace ronaldo as the best? too fairy tale la.... just get ribery, our attack should be ok with rooney and berba up front.. benzema coming or not is not big prob..

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Added on June 20, 2009, 11:54 pmand for freekicks, if owen is fit, i believe he'll the the right candidate to take those

This post has been edited by pisces88: Jun 20 2009, 11:54 PM

And signing Ribery will guarantee goals from set piece situations?

We have capable set piece takers. The twins have a good shot in them. Nani, Carrick, Giggs, Rooney and Berbatov all have taken free kicks as well. When Becks left, we asked the same question. Ronaldo took over and he wasn't good at it naturally. It took him practice. Someone will step up inevitably.

How should I put things clearer? We only have 2 class strikers now. We have Macheda and Welbeck but we know they aren't the Solskjaer, Forlan, Saha kind of sub yet. We need another striker, to replace Tevez. Fine with me if you believe that Welbeck can do the job but let's be realistic.

New signings don't guarantee results but quality signings guarantee results.

Have you ever watch United? Really? My goodness. Especially on the bolded part. We have more than 1 freekick specialists not as potent as Beckham but effective. Rooney could take FKs, Berba can, Carrick can, Giggsy can, heck even the sicknote Hargreaves can.

SAF isn't stupid enough to splash more than 40m++ for one player. We are not Madrid despite the amount of money we have for transfers. Believe me when I say we won't buy much this transfer window.

Hey, count me in.

Simple, Nani was not having enough games last season and i don't expect Berbatov or even anyone else to settle quickly in their first season with us.

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Jun 21 2009, 12:01 AM

Read back my posts, I was agreeing with you on the need of one more striker. I just was against Ribery.

In any case, how was Shevchenko and Veron not quality signings? Signings made for wrong purposes (money, stepping stone) always leads to failure.

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Added on June 21, 2009, 12:01 amMy original post.

Your response which I disagree with.

This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Jun 21 2009, 12:02 AM

Well I didn't say Ribery will come in and take set pieces. And we didn't win the league for 3 years after Becks left, it took Ronaldo 3 years to step up, and was our top scorer for 3 years now, who's gonna replace our top scorer for the past 3 years next season? Nani might take at least 2 years to be even near Ronaldo's level. Benzema and Ribery are class players, they can do the job. When we went thru 04-06, we brought in average players like Djemba, Kleberson, Bellion and we were nowhere near the top. It was until we bring in players like Carrick, Rooney, Tevez that we finally stood up. Point is, bring in quality players and that will guarantee results.

Benz on the way.. I believe so..

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=656189&cc=4716

It has been confirmed already. You've read a today's old news.

How many world class players actually comes to United and flop? tbh I didn't felt Veron was a flop, he was great.

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Added on June 21, 2009, 12:09 ami've said it since the beginning of summer, Benzema will definitely come, and our new #7.

This post has been edited by Makakeke: Jun 21 2009, 12:09 AM

huh! i was too slow to get news.. hahaha