Forgot to add that his setup is in haywire too. It's like a disco in there. Just whoompa whoompa BOOM BOOOM. But he is darn happy And I am not referring to our fellow logit85

why u not referning to our fellow me ?

Because looking you are at powderful subwoofer that amplifier need big big watt. Only best the sub fits requirement your. Forgetting not shaking bass when listering. So, your class is him above

me read pening also, and understand how?

sure you dun understand la.. your sub also not up to his expectation yet.. minimum also need Z5500 logitech.. then only boom boom pow!

Sure I don't mind trying out the EQ1.

Different people have different tastes I guess. At least the SVS also caters for those who like big BOOOMMM!

Yes. Just imagine what it could unleash when it is being run 'hot' even if it is SVS 12-NSD.

Will arrange the EQ1 for you test. Maybe when we meet up at Ipoh.

Ah yes! Different people have different taste in bass. Some like to have good quality & tight bass which to me is 'elite bass' since it need elite sub & 'equipment' where as some like big, bone shacking bass..........the type which u can find in most 'ah beng' car.

I am afraid I fall into this 'Ah Beng Bass' category. I love to watch movie with really heavy bass effect even though I might have to replace my ceiling eventually as it is now vibrating badly.

Am I safe to say that you run your subs extremely hot? Not worry that the plaster ceiling landing on top of your head?

He! He! Try to imagine Hotel California with bass drum! But seriously now after doing more setting up the bass is not longer so 'Ah Beng', my avr sub level is at -15db.....

So I must say to myself I have 'learned' to appreciated 'elite bass'.

i have ask him about shipping Elemental Designs Subwoofer
he said the shipping quote. Just received. Shipping for the two Elemental Designs A7-900's to your door in Malaysia will be $1350 USD. That would make your total for the 2 Elemental Designs A7-900 $5850.00 USD total price to you. I have been in the warehouse today helping the shipping department prepare one of the large shipments, and have not be available for chat. I do apologize, as I would have enjoyed sharing this through chat with you.

Wow very expensive shipping sad
i like it 2 Elemental Designs A7-900's because i like to louder

Not bad for 2 of the best sub in around for the price of it.

So, it is about RM25,350 for 2 behemoth quality subwoofers. IMHO, not really expensive considering its performance over price ratio. Each would be almost equivalent of the price of an award winning 'ultra powerful' sealed sub that is available locally. Then again, I think it would be safe to say that it is a total massacre when A7-900 goes head to head with it The only winning factor : WAF since the other is of dimunitive size.

Wow, you're at the bottom limit of the AVR sub trim at -15dB. This is after running Audyssey right?

Suggest you turn down the volume knob on the sub and re-run Audyssey so that the trim is higher than -15dB. Then your bass will be even more 'elite'.

The reason why I set my sub vol at 50% is that as the output of the sub is dependent on LFE input, that will not be any 'distortion' if the LFE input signal is too large as some movie do have very large LFE output. Ehhhh! Can understand what I meant kar?

Ok it is like this.........LFE input very large so by right ur sub output will be large but it can't output that very that much as it is being restrict by the vol control ( eg at 30% ). So that is why I set my sub vol at 50% & let my avr control the LFE signal.

BTW auddsey set is being done but it can control the LFE output so that it 'balance' with the rest of my 7.2 system. Also even though it is at -15db ( two set up with diff sub vol at 40% & 50% ), the auddsey set the LFE out put differently.

no need to tambah few K for EQ1 ar? can tame twin subs mah..

horny,

Don't understand what u r saying, however, when u check the speaker levels using a SPL meter are they all matched or is the sub at a higher level? If so, how much?

The reason why running Audyssey at max/min trim settings are not recommended are due to filter settings being improperly set at that range. Again, its ur setup if u like it that way, go for it.

does the amp volume affects measurements when audessey is being done? if yes, what's the ideal db that should be set when doing audessey tuning?

To all Elites,

I am setting up my system by using SPL meter. After running the manual setup and adjusting the level trim on the amp side, my front(L&R), centre, rear and sub are now at the respective level, -2.5, -1.5, -1.5, +3.0. All these level are set at 75-78db. I am wondering whether they looks ok?

I had someone to set up my system using SPL meter before I change my front speakers and the level trim on the amp side was front (L&R)~+10.5, centre~+4.5, rear~+8, sub ~+5....these level were set at ~80db.

It seems to me that, the different is huge! So approximately what did you guys get for the level trimming on the amp side?

Thank you.

Actually when I read through my post I also don't understand what the poke I am writting about..........dam my english very bad!

Yes all the 7 spk match in their output after auddsey setting has being done, measured my spl meter. Both sub output at same level measure with spl but the actual vol on the two sub is different due to distance & different brand. Paradigm is set at 50%, Velo SPL 1200 at 65% due to its low output & distance.

Ok one time I try to say why I set sub vol at 50%........

Assuming u set the sub vol at 30%, ur avr will of cause increase ur lfe level to -10db. Now when u watch movie with lotsa of LFE at high vol ur avr will also increase it LFE output to the sub. Now due to the restriction of the sub at 30% level it can only produce its LFE to 30% only. So while ur other spk will be at very high output ur sub output can only be at 30% level ( due to the vol being set at 30% ) also in this case distortion might set in at the sub woofer due to high input LFE since u r now listening ur avr at high vol.

Due to this reasoning I set my sub at 50% level ( any higher the avr will warn u that sub vol is too high ) & so far I have not detect any bass distortion.

Hopefully can understand now hoh?

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Added on October 28, 2009, 4:40 pmVol setting is not being affected. In fact when u poke in the auddsey mic to do auddsey setting the vol has no effect. All this setting is in auto mode, u only need to do mice placement & some adjustment in the set up after u do the auddsey set up.

This post has been edited by HornyAngMoh: Oct 28 2009, 04:40 PM

Ummm.... I think I understand what you're trying to say.

Well, Audyssey will compensate for your sub volume. If you set your sub volume very high, then Audyssey sub trim will be set very low (-15 dB is lowest). Conversely, if sub volume very low then Audyssey will boost the sub trim (up to +12 dB max I think). So really it doesn't matter what is your sub volume as long as you don't reach the limits of Audyssey because then you go beyond the ability of Audyssey to compensate.

What you said: "Ok it is like this.........LFE input very large so by right ur sub output will be large but it can't output that very that much as it is being restrict by the vol control ( eg at 30% )" I don't think is correct. The sub vol control is a gain control, i.e. it multiplies the input signal from the AVR. So if you set at 30%, Audyssey will boost the signal (to compensate) so 30% x boosted signal = 50% x lower signal. Like I said earlier Audyssey will compensate so that some balance is achieved.