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 The Official Subwoofer Thread v2, Everything you need to know about bass!

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ar188
post Jul 20 2009, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jul 20 2009, 05:56 PM)

I am not really into car, watch collection or other more expensive hobby. This is my main hobby and apart from it, it is also my business as well. So, I guess I consider myself as 'lucky'  tongue.gif  So, it aint that 'bottomless' after all  laugh.gif 
yeah tell me abt it man.. tongue.gif at least you are more focus... my attention span is all over the place.. pening liao.. rclxub.gif
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post Aug 25 2009, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 25 2009, 04:08 PM)
Easy. Try PM mpyw. He can get anything from US  wink.gif
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htkaki.. need anything from UK ? biggrin.gif wanna re-sell open boxed blow out weekend specials speakers? biggrin.gif


Added on August 25, 2009, 6:13 pm
QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 25 2009, 03:26 PM)
shit... damn ar188 coz he successfully poisoned me with the MS Submersive tongue.gif

so sad they don't ship to M'sia sad.gif
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I think he want to keep it low volume/exclusive.. after he post in his user support forum, he usually say he have to get back to making subs (so hands on wan).. laugh.gif

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post Aug 25 2009, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 25 2009, 06:44 PM)
his user reviews on his subs r super keng thumbup.gif
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usually killer reviews, they consider it as upgrade from the PB-13 series.. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 25 2009, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 25 2009, 06:50 PM)
ya lor... he also converted some JL Fathom users tongue.gif

no good la u... poison ppl like that vmad.gif
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tongue.gif no harm done to svs users here.. different price range, and he doesnt sell to asia.. as someone mention.. so no biggy..
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post Aug 25 2009, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 25 2009, 07:10 PM)
yaya.. n the problem with warranty etc shakehead.gif
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unlucky lor if sub mati.. biggrin.gif
maybe can just send back the 1000W amp section instead of the whole 40KG enclosure? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mys_terious @ Aug 25 2009, 07:38 PM)
yes.. normally i read comments like 'another level above 13ultra' hehe..
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I wonder what's the next next level then? 5-200Hz +/- 3db? tongue.gif
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post Aug 25 2009, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 25 2009, 08:36 PM)
Yeah, example like this one:

I've just upgraded from an Ultra and here are my un-EQ'd impressions FWIW.  I have a DSP-30, but haven't entered any filters yet--I've been getting the kids ready for back-to-school, so the SubMersive has been lonely for a few days.   

My immediate analysis is that the SubMersive has much better "punch" and "attack" in the mid-bass, while also extending lower in the teens hz and below as well (as for the lows, it just has a fathomless kind of depth to it at any volume level).  Also, the SubMersive has a very clean, surprisingly transparent feel to it--meaning that in places where the Ultra had made a footprint on the scene (or added some heaviness to the music), the SubMersive is kind of stealthy.  I don't know how to describe it, but it seems that the SubMersive is simply truer to the source without adding any attention to itself--very pleasing, but a little different to get used to!  Don't misunderstand, the SubMersive isn't some "pretty" sub that behaves itself.  Frankly, it is pretty scary when the SubMersive makes the transition from stealth to attack mode when the scene calls for it.  The power and headroom seem limitless. 

The Ultra pounded my fanny and sofa in the 20hz range very well, but muddied things up higher.  The Ultra didn't have the chest and neck kick, nor that funky room-pressurization-hard-to-breath kind of power that the SubMersive does.  Ironhide flip from Transformers and plane roll-over from Flight of the Phoenix are really amazing.  The Ultra was impressive on those scenes for sheer power and butt-shaking, but the SubMersive adds nuances to the effects that make it more believable, not just loud. 

Also, a big problem for me was that the Ultra would make some very unruly noises on scenes when it was hitting its limits.  I've written elsewhere about this.  I've happily run through all of those personal LFE torture/idiosyncrasies with the SubMersive and found it eats them all up without a bad sound!  No localization, no "farts," "chuffs," or mechanical noises that even the very best ported subs can give off.


Of course the Submersive is about 25% more expensive than the PB13 Ultra...
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wah bos jchong also got one ar? thumbup.gif
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post Aug 25 2009, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 25 2009, 09:56 PM)
USD1,950/pc bro.. smile.gif
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+ 40-50KG airfright + 15+10% duty/tax. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 25 2009, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Aug 25 2009, 10:03 PM)
if USD195 can la

USD1950 i canot afford la sad.gif
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sap sap for you la.. change your Bimmer M sport 4 tires also can buy it liao.. thumbup.gif
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post Aug 25 2009, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Aug 25 2009, 10:19 PM)
so submarine smoke 9 PC13ultra also?

sure bor?? y none SVS owner test the boom boom pow song for me ? sad.gif
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y you dun go visit htleg?
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post Aug 25 2009, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Aug 25 2009, 10:55 PM)
tat one is 1 way tix

better not tongue.gif
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he can arrange EPP with your CC zero interest 12month.... biggrin.gif
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post Aug 25 2009, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 25 2009, 11:11 PM)
really meh?? hmm.gif
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dunno la... was joking with tun mega only..
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post Aug 27 2009, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Aug 27 2009, 12:17 AM)
or u can keep the 12Q for ur maid to use like ah pinkor pinkor biggrin.gif
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pinkor pinkor? elite chew ar? tongue.gif
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post Aug 27 2009, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 27 2009, 12:44 AM)
No, aint him. IIRC, aint from Peninsula.
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oh across the sea.. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 27 2009, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(kianwee @ Aug 27 2009, 09:02 AM)
Lightning McQueen
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pixar?
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post Aug 30 2009, 03:27 PM

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so messy wan? tongue.gif
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post Aug 31 2009, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 31 2009, 10:53 PM)
wah.. elite tun mega bot patek ah? smile.gif
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post Aug 31 2009, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Aug 31 2009, 10:56 PM)
OT: canot afford la.. just for  day2day working purpose...

i belip MPYW taukeh can consider this sub tongue.gif

how he didnt burn his budget on merdeka... as i remembered last year he got his teebee tongue.gif
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mpyw kinda quiet.. must be up to (buying) something.. brows.gif
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post Aug 31 2009, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Aug 31 2009, 10:59 PM)
exactly... i can smell tat biggrin.gif this one he got approval easier as compare to the size does matter to him smile.gif
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dunno his eye twitching now or not, since you talking abt him.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(robinlim @ Aug 31 2009, 11:52 PM)
still in the box oredi wanna sell
seems like the poison is really deep in u rclxms.gif
btw, is the difference really between heaven and earth meh? hmm.gif
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