at least I can differentiate between rotten apple and fresh apple ...hahahah

Very good debate but debate mature a bit lah...

Using red color and big font will only expose your emotion and mindset...

Anyway, good debate, please continue to whack TS kaw kaw but smart investor is not stupid...

Those are waterfish lo ..no investment sense..not only titiwangsa sentral,even others with bad investment value ..eg a flat in cheras market value rm60k stil got buyer offer RM150k..This is no investment sennse and waterfish..can be comparable who offer RM500k to buy those cheap titiwangsa sentral..USE YOUR BRAIN..got plp offer to buy at higher price doesnt mean good buy,,,then the Flat in cheras offered RM150k also good buy lo..EVERYwhere is good buy lo HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!

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Added on August 26, 2011, 11:03 pmMY ADVISE TO investor

Never go to titiwangsa sentral for investment!!I am investor myself..I have properties around Kl

trust me

i invest
in


Mutiara Villa
casa mutiara
parkview
times square
bougainvilla
angkasa impian
berjaya apartment
forum

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Added on August 26, 2011, 11:11 pmAND now is not the time to buy property unless if it is a really good buy..There will be drop in property market soon might drop at least 30% but sure it will go up again better than now .If titiwangsa Sental can up to RM770k,,the flat in mention just now valued at RM60k can go up to rm350k! and all the property in kuala lumpur can up to at least 40% provided titiwangsa can go up to RM770k as target BY MR. SMART PAI

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Added on August 26, 2011, 11:14 pmWHY titiwangsa will up to RM770k?


mean the economy is really good..every property in malaysia also will go up..Thats why not necessary Titiwangsa sentral..a lot better than titiwangsa sentral .

This post has been edited by ken8120: Aug 26 2011, 11:14 PM

If fully furnish can fetch 3k rental... no need to make so many posting to defend the idea... just show the proof there's such tenant in TS...ppl will shut up....

Otherwise... can argue until the cow come back...ahahah....

ARgue until PAI come back..wakakakaka

this is a comedy thread

Ken,

Gotta say your portfollio is not bad at all.............all the above I have personally went n check and I admit these are decent cashflow props.........

Got a few questions if you dont mind sharing :

1. Can share what year you bought these props and for how much?

2. Noticed you only play in KLCC and BB area...........which of the above your best buy in terms of yield and gains?

3. U still keeping all the above?

u r very sharp, ken .. yea, he cant accept criticism on prop he bought .. but he likes to criticise other prop and even when proven wrong, he will defend and deny ..

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Added on August 27, 2011, 10:47 am


u can choose not to believe, it doesnt matter to me .. my 1000% COCR is based on selling price of 500k where u cant find anyone selling at this price in any website ..
when u bought zest, didnt u have to wait near vp to realise ur gain ? it's the same for any new launches .. i dont see much in ur point as those who flipped Tropics, Axis bla bla had also waited till completion to realise their gain .. this is not a wise arguement ..
i would be more interested to see what happen after Zest VP  however, again and again .. the point is, u compared zest and sw and thought zest would have outperformed sw a lot, didnt u ... today, u are denying and giving excuses to what u have said previously .. this shows how much weight ur perspective actually carries ..

is this the kind of proof u are looking at ? haha .. this is forum .. while it is suppose for sharing knowledge, but some ppl will use this as a platform to promote their own vested prop .. there is nothing to prove, it's just whether u believe it or not .. plz use ur brain before u ask for something .. we want to bring this to a higher level of debate .. not the kind of debate u used to had ..

This post has been edited by zavier98: Aug 27 2011, 10:58 AM

Rm525k block b value can get? From
Which valuation firm?

I am not an owner but keen investor in TS. I started to actively look for a unit since 2 months ago and have not been able to get one at "good price". I do not say good things only about TS but also cannot stand suspicious postings by people who obviously have their own reasons.
To put it into reality, I offered rm450k 2days ago for a unit but the owner refused!
I guess I don't have brain....or maybe the owner is the one without brains.

Whatever it is, I still can't get a choice unit at rm450k and will be thinking if I should increase my offer. Surely by your account I am even more brainless. So maybe you can tell me where to get a similar property at this price. And u don't néed to reply in bolder red....easier on my brainless eyes

ARgue until PAI come back..wakakakaka

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I think you are getting personal. your personal attack towards PAI has already misalign from the real purpose of this thread which is for discussion. I am no fans of Pai(I dont even know him) but I got to give him some credit , having 23 prop under his belt at a tender age. What do you have so far?
I dont own any unit in TS but as Minolta, I`m looking for one and my offer for 450k got no response so far.

and your writing in red does not impress me at all.

Seller: I am not waiting for waterfish, but waiting for people who value this property (TS only has the value of its location and public transport, i think). If you don't like my price, please go away, no one force you to buy from me!!! STFU and buy another property which you think the price is still not overvalued(most of the property are over-valued nowadays )

Above statement is just my opinion, don't shoot me k!! I am not a owner for TS. But if i were to buy a property for own stay, i wont choose TS la. I buy TS also for rental income only.... But the rental income can really go so high? Thats my doubt. hmmm

[quote=lhkmmyy,Aug 27 2011, 04:38 PM]Seller: I am not waiting for waterfish, but waiting for people who value this property (TS only has the value of its location and public transport, i think). If you don't like my price, please go away, no one force you to buy from me!!! STFU and buy another property which you think the price is still not overvalued(most of the property are over-valued nowadays )

Above statement is just my opinion, don't shoot me k!! I am not a owner for TS. But if i were to buy a property for own stay, i wont choose TS la. I buy TS also for rental income only.... But the rental income can really go so high? Thats my doubt. hmmm

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No one force me,,i just give my opinion to other who need advise.yup i agree most of the property are over-valued but sure stil have some with investment but sure not titiwangsa sentral lo

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Added on August 27, 2011, 6:05 pm[quote=mzmz,Aug 27 2011, 04:16 PM]
ARgue until PAI come back..wakakakaka

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I think you are getting personal. your personal attack towards PAI has already misalign from the real purpose of this thread which is for discussion. I am no fans of Pai(I dont even know him) but I got to give him some credit , having 23 prop under his belt at a tender age. What do you have so far?
I dont own any unit in TS but as Minolta, I`m looking for one and my offer for 450k got no response so far.

and your writing in red does not impress me at all.

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no need offer 450k ..wait 3 month,,will have owner offer you rm380k to 400k
I am 29..i have 11 properties..You can choose not to agree with me.so far all my choices of investment wont get wrong

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Added on August 27, 2011, 6:11 pm[quote=Pai,Aug 27 2011, 01:11 AM]
Ken,

Gotta say your portfollio is not bad at all.............all the above I have personally went n check and I admit these are decent cashflow props.........

Got a few questions if you dont mind sharing :

1. Can share what year you bought these props and for how much?

2. Noticed you only play in KLCC and BB area...........which of the above your best buy in terms of yield and gains?

3. U still keeping all the above?



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1.The properties bought between 2007 to 2010 between rm150k to rm350k except times square
2.mutiara villa and berjaya and casa mutiara ..can be said all good yield between 10% to 16% appreaciated more than 40%
3)still keep all not to mention other properties at johor and penang


Pai,ur turn to answer me....wat properties u have ,,wat the best yield ?plp said u have 23 properties?

This post has been edited by ken8120: Aug 27 2011, 06:11 PM

Brother Ken, i agree with you TS not worth so much, but i do not agree with you saying TS price will drop, ppl will just 'pegang' it kuat kuat, until global economy crisis hit kao lat kao lat again....ppl unemployed, and stock market crashed 20-30%. Not to say price drop is impossible lar, it happened before, but it's very unlikely to happen in 3 months time lo. haha, just my 0.02

This post has been edited by lhkmmyy: Aug 27 2011, 06:36 PM

wow....impressive....sorry, if u don't mind me asking 2 questions, as I'm new to this thread

1. For your MV, Berjaya and Casa mutiara - you mentioned that i has appreciated. Congrats! At present prices and yields, do you think people will still buy into those properties? And do you not see a need to sell to realise profit?

2. What exactly is your reservation with TS? Like MV, berjaya and casa mutiara - it has also appreciated in price....So, i don't quite understand the issue.

cheers.

at least the rental yield is better than titiwangsa sentral..and easy to rent out as expatriates prefer those property can walk to shopping mall.all my unit if vacant within 1 week can rent out somemore rental better than titiwangsa sentral.as all my unit with good rental yield and easy to rent out..i dont see to rush to sell my properties .with present prices and property market,it may take sometime to release the property but i believe it will easy to sell out compare to titiwangsa sentral..dont believe?..not much unit in iproperty.com sell casa mutiara ,berjaya ,MV..all prefer to keep

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Added on August 27, 2011, 10:18 pmnow some owner already wanna sell at rm420k .the agent just call me yesterday..but the price stil not interesting.Now thera are alot of owner chasing to sell theier unit,they cant rent out and paying installment every month.more than 400 unit for rent out or for sale.Some might face pressure to keep them.somemore economy will be worst in few months time.we need to test thier patience..they bought it at rm250k.what do you think ?

This post has been edited by ken8120: Aug 27 2011, 10:18 PM

Unless those owner sell without engaging a property agent, if not, those property agent will just tell them they can sell at high price, ask them pegang... hehe...

I actually hope what you said here is true, hope that those owner already start panic and sell at lower price. hehe...Sorry MR.PAI, i don't have any unit in TS that's why i say so no offense 1 har...i still got lot of things to learn from you....beginner here

COCR is Cash On Cash Returns. Unless you have been receiving cash for your undercon Setia Walk..........claiming to have achieved 1000% COCR is misleading n a blatant lie.

http://www.property-investing.org/cash-on-cash-return.html

I know you are a young, but to lie like this is...............

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Added on August 28, 2011, 1:22 amI suspect this wont happen but lets revisit this after 3 months


29 with 11 props..........is actually quite respectable. Got a fren with your age but currently on 13 props, and he is also vested in CM and BTS as I recommended him to go in.

But chief how come you never commented in any of the threads of the properties you own? It is rather strange for someone who has soo many props yet choose to comment in a thread that he isnt vested in at all?

Bought a few props here n there lah.....in KL n Johoor......CM, Maytower, Axis, TS are my yield plays.....yields also between 10% to 16%.......my best buy appreciates 100% in 18 months....... the rest approx 60% gains overall.............

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Added on August 28, 2011, 1:34 amchief no issues.........its OK to disagree in fact I like mature banters.......but when ppl started lying then go on personal attacks then its a bit too much.......

When an ESTABLISHED n KNOWN forumer like Minolta kor shares his exp in TS hunting recently ........... I'd rather trust his input then some newbie who happens to have personal issues just because I dont agree that SW is a good buy.........



This post has been edited by Pai: Aug 28 2011, 01:34 AM

You're not interested? Then please do share with us your agent's contact. I am interested if nice unit. U can also pm me the agent's number if you're not keen to put here. If deal go through, I will make sure the agent give you a referree's cut of the commission.

Thanks,
Minolta

zavier & Ken 8120.

1. Are u 2 related? I'm just curious why the both of you are coincidentally showing so much animosity towards another forumer here? Let's battle with facts, not with emotion. Personal attacks are not appreciated.

2. Ken 8120 - personally, 11 props at 29 years of age doesn't really impress me. I know people with far more. Plus it's not the quantity of the prop's that matter. It is the strategic acuity & your investment philosophy that matters. So far, I've not gotten any indication from you on that. Please don't give sweeping statements that "you have not been wrong so far". At 29, you have not seen any major recessions or faced any credit crunches yet, let alone understand the implications of such matters.

3. Zavier - u may accuse another forumer that TS is heavily advocated by him. But are you not also heavily vested in telling people that TS is NOT a good buy? You seem to be giving me that impression, and the bias can also be seen from your posts.

This post has been edited by Phoeni_142: Aug 28 2011, 04:19 AM

i didnt expect anybody to impress of me..of coz i never been wrong so far.if there are any major recessions or faced any credit crunches..if i am affected ,i thing not only me,there will be alot of plp also involve including some property guru.

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Added on August 28, 2011, 12:53 pmwhy attacking me..not only me ...but i think there are more than 10 plp here also attacking Titiwangs sentral.u talk me coz u have personal agenda.not me.u have the right to say ..y not us!if u want everybody agree with u,be a moderator here and ban me

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Added on August 28, 2011, 1:03 pmi am not an active user here last time because i am so busy .now i am semi retired.a lot of time for me now .Its not starange as i told u all b4.i view this property titiwangsa sentral b4 thru an agents,if i not interested to invest ,i will not view it.But after viewing,already felt this is not a good investment .as i am so free now,i think i will share what in my mind on property for sharing .i give my opinion but being attacked.Maybe this thread for who want to sweet talk about titiwangsa sentral not for pp to give opinion.we give opinion some plp say we have personal hidden motive.plp sweet talk titiwangsa sentral,,this plp keep quiet

This post has been edited by ken8120: Aug 28 2011, 01:03 PM