serena and zarra are sharing access roads with juniper and lilac.... how would they be able to have g&g??
or it's just got guard and got fence, already consider "gated and guarded"?

you could see very big distinction between lilac-juniper-ixora area compared with puteri-8 area. One is only the chain-linked fence, but puteri-8 area got concrete walls... so which type of g&g??

Good question, fyi I just call and ask the customer service. She told me that 'probably' it will be G&G but this will not be stated in the S&P. Anyone can confirm this ?

the proper G&G should come with CCTV facility, access card facility and perimeter wall around each garden with single entrance... G&G should no waving hand to security guards and allow any visitor enter the garden like that, it happened to one of my gf's relative rawang housing area... the security guard should check the visitor's identity before allow them enter and the CCTV will work as recorder for security activities...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Aug 17 2009, 06:03 PM

nowdays chicken fence and a guard at the entrance people call Gated and Guarded

Whatever, it is better than none.

i waving hand to security guard and enter the garden without stopping my car...
paid security fees but gain nothing...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Aug 17 2009, 07:36 PM

that is why I dont agree with the misinterpretation of gated and guarded by IOI

only puteri 8 qualifies as a real gated and guarded. Another good example is Lake Edge by YTL. Thats a true gated and guarded place

a full fledged gated and guarded is what gkl83 mentioned earlier and not these half baked solutions

looking at puteri 7 blog... even the chained-fence need contribution from house owner themselves... developer never bother to fully sponsor.
a very rough calculation... 200 houses * 300k = rm 60 MILLION of revenue... how much the fence cost?

everything also $

maybe all puteri6 kaki like us can raise the same concern to IOI

btw the inside the showscreen of MB-bathroom, there is only the rain drop show rose, no hand carry show-rose

any one got the same concern as mine?

It is better than none b'c it wasnt promised when it was launched nor stated in the T & C of SPA or covenants.

Would u say no to free gift?

no matter what IOI wl only provide guards for the first 2 yrs on new project. After that it's all upto the relevant RA. So it's most important to hv a hardworking,strong & reliable RA.

So all those G&G state by developer is nothing if the RA who wl take over the management after 2 yrs is sleeping on their job. That's y hv to elect a strong RA with all owner support & pay their dues. no point keep relying on ppl contribution & we do nothing......how to get good security & RA w/out money???

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Added on August 18, 2009, 9:58 amPuteri 8 hv a v-good RA & most owner pay up their dues thats y they can hv lots of money to hired good security & install CCTV & touch card system...and build their own concrete wall.

This post has been edited by moopok: Aug 18 2009, 09:58 AM

you are right. This issue happened to my current taman . We don't have a strong RA, and most of the resident just be a pasif RA member. Without a good leader, we are facing "tight" security problem even is gated and guarded. Sometime, i do hope that the developer can just take care of the guard hse duties witout handling to RA just like those services condo..but i know it is imporsible loh
Frankly, its all depend your luck too...if everybody is concern and willing to paid , that will be great !

ic.. puteri 8 also got to pay money from own purse huh... hmmm... probably the marketing mgr has given misleading message to JayC75.
btw, JayC75, did u probe the marketing mgr further for clarifications on the g&g?

i don think ioi will give proper G&G. Puteri 8 must hv strong RA and all willing to pay for better G&G service, that is what they get. Anybody hv their friend stay in Puteri 8 can confirm this?

dun understand why there are always some small group of tenants dun want to pay for security... like puteri 7, rm50 a month also so heavy hand meh... can see in their blog the 24-kiamsiap families

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Added on August 18, 2009, 2:57 pmin tat case, the marketing mgr should not even mention to u is g&g... tat is a misleading message to buyers

This post has been edited by trojant: Aug 18 2009, 02:58 PM

that is why when JayC75 mentioned the marketing manager told him that Puteri 6 is G&G as a feeble attempt to impress/mislead him I find it disgusting

fyi the alarm system that is included also is not defined properly. as per my own experience in Olivia the sensors are fixed to the door/windows and not grilles.

if the owner fix the grilles later the additional alarm sensors cost have to be borned by the owner.

not to say not defined properly... it's not defined as per ur requirement... how would the developer know who will put grille who will not, right?
anyway, thefts need to break both grille and door/window b4 getting in... any reason u want to fix it at the grille instead?

double protection.

is common sense that developer with put the sensor at the door and window and not grille unless the developer have built the grille loh, that will be different story ..

good point!