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post Apr 22 2009, 10:20 PM, updated 17y ago

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Hey all! Just wanted to share with fellow forumers the nice new Sidewinder stuff Microsoft released. I recently just bought a new set of Sidewinder X6 & X8, so I'll be posting a bit of pictures and a personal review for everyone to read. Enjoy...

MARKET PRICING FOR REFERENCE PURPOSES ONLY:

X8 - RM350
X6 - RM225
X5 - RM190
X3 - RM160


Sidewinder X8 Mouse:

Pros
-Nicely weighted and sized, fits my large hands perfectly.
-Nice build quality.
-Nifty QuickTurn & ClickLock feature very, very helpful in FPS games.
-4000dpi, BlueTrack Technology & Wireless plus Charge on the go.
-First ever mouse to feature an LCD Display on it. wub.gif

Cons
-Scroll wheel isn't exactly smooth, unlike the Logitech G9's wheel.
-Software uses Microsoft Intellipoint which may not be user friendly to some.
-No weight slots like the previous Sidewinder mouse
-Size may not fit all.

Pictures:

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^X8 Mouse from a distance.

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^Check out the number of buttons on it...

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^Nice LCD Display to display info e.g.DPI and Battery Life.

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^Rear has a cool glowing effect - red when charging (like Knight Rider's K.I.T.T. Grille!) and blue when not.

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^I think this mouse suits people with the palm grip better...

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^Cool BlueTrack glow, which apparently, tracks better than standard Laser. It can track on Marble & Glass!

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^The mouse and its docking station, which houses....

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^...spare mouse feet!!!

This post has been edited by Enigmare: May 28 2009, 05:23 PM
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post Apr 22 2009, 10:20 PM

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Sidewinder X6 Keyboard:

Pros
-Nice red ambient backlighting.
-Programmable Macros.
-Detachable Numeric keypad.
-Lightweight and slim.

Cons
-Software uses Microsoft Intellitype which may not be user friendly to some.
-Red may not suit all tastes.
-Keyboard doesn't tilt up, may be uncomfortable for some.
-Keys feel a little plasticky.

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^X6 Keyboard connected with backlight off.

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^And a shot with the backlight on.

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^The coolly lighted WASD keys, with dotted accents on bottom.

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^Red backlighting with a little hint of orange at the side.

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^Closeup on the orange backlights.

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^X6 Keyboard FTW!


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post Apr 22 2009, 10:21 PM

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X8 Specs:

2.4 GHz Wireless connection
Reliable wireless connection built for lag-free play.

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BlueTrack Technology
World's most advanced tracking technology for gaming with image processing of 13,000 frames per second.

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Play and Charge
Up to 30 hours of active gaming on a single charge, or use the play-and-charge cable for non-stop action.

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Twelve Buttons – Seven are programmable
Customize the five programmable main buttons, plus left/right tilt wheel—seven programmable buttons— to customize your gaming experience.

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Scroll Wheel with Tilt
Better feel and response with detents for precise control.

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Full-Speed USB Reporting
Full-speed, 500 Hz USB reporting is built for lag-free play.

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Engineered for Speed
Shape designed for quick, balanced, precision gaming action.

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Vertical side buttons
Don’t make mistakes. The top/bottom design makes locating the side buttons easier and reduces the inadvertent actuation risk.

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LCD Display
Quickly view DPI settings and macro-recording.

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Quick Launch Button
One-touch access to Microsoft PC Gaming features.

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DPI Switching
Instantly switch sensitivity between high, medium, and low with one click.

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Replaceable Mouse Feet
Choice of three different materials for glide preference.

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Macro Record
Easily record macros while in game with the dedicated button.

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X6 Specs:

Switchable key pad
Flexible design, choose right side or left side configuration. Switch between standard key pad and macro pad in gaming mode.

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Two-color adjustable backlighting dial
Keyboard keys are red, and key pad and Macro keys are amber in Game mode. Lighting dial adjusts the brightness of the keyboard and key pad.

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Macro keys
Up to 30 programmable keys that can allow up to 90 programmable options with an assigned gaming profile.

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Mode switching
Manually toggle the keyboard from standard mode to either of two gaming modes. LEDs show the selected mode.

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Cruise Control
Use Cruise Control to continue an action without having to hold down the key or keys assigned to the action. You can use Cruise Control with up to four keys at a time.* (* Cruise Control does not work with programmable macro keys.)

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In-game macro record button
Record any sequence of keystrokes—even standard chat messages. Macros are stored on your hard drive and can be easily shared.

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Automatic profile switching
When a game or application profile is assigned using the software, the keyboard detects the game or application you are running and applies your custom profile to the application.

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WASD gaming keys
Have front-face lighting for enhanced visibility.

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Media keys
Play/Pause, Previous Track, Next Track, and Mute.

Product Tours:

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/gaming/d..._swx6_tour.html

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/gaming/d..._swx8_tour.html

Owners do PM me yea, plan to add your proud names to an owner's list. wink.gif

Surprise fellas!!

Sidewinder X3 Mouse:

Pros
-Cheap
-Has macro buttons.
-Switchable DPI On the fly.
-Fits nicely

Cons
-Design not to everyone's taste.
-Too light.

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^Sidewinder X3 Box

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^Sidewinder X3 box contents.

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^Front shot of the X3.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Post...&p=25341913&st=
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^X3's DPI switchers.

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^Top shot of the X3.

P.S. I'm bulking this item now, join me here:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1026370

wingster's SideWinder™ X8 Reviews and Pictures:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=26908139

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=26912073

SIDEWINDER X8 OWNERS:

Enigmare
wingster
hamlau
silencer
skyliner66
TomatomanzSeedlezz
AceCombat

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post Apr 22 2009, 11:00 PM

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nice keyboard&mouse u have there....
i wish i get those... sad.gif
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post Apr 22 2009, 11:06 PM

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is it RM119?
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post Apr 22 2009, 11:09 PM

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woohoo...sidewinder Mouse owner reporting in.. rclxms.gif
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post Apr 22 2009, 11:11 PM

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the mouse looks painful to hold.
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post Apr 22 2009, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(DjK @ Apr 22 2009, 11:09 PM)
woohoo...sidewinder Mouse owner reporting in.. rclxms.gif
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Which one do you own bro?? wink.gif


Added on April 22, 2009, 11:15 pm
QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Apr 22 2009, 11:11 PM)
the mouse looks painful to hold.
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Actually, it's quite comfortable for me.. It really depends - if your hands are small, then I think this wouldn't fit you nicely.. rclxub.gif

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post Apr 22 2009, 11:18 PM

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As a person with a rather small palm, it certainly looks like the mouse is quite troublesome to use.

As for the keyboard, it's totally awesome.

Well, the only problem is the price. It's such a luxury that the saved money can be used as fund to buy a new rig.
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ Apr 22 2009, 11:14 PM)
Which one do you own bro?? wink.gif
already PM-ed you...just the Sidewinder Mouse(the 1st one)
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post Apr 22 2009, 11:20 PM

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nice pics there. really tempted to get one of them laugh.gif
ts, i think it'll be good if you can put up a list of members who own sidewinder stuff. since you mentioned in the title that this is a microsoft sidewinder thread smile.gif
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post Apr 22 2009, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(xcen @ Apr 22 2009, 11:18 PM)
As a person with a rather small palm, it certainly looks like the mouse is quite troublesome to use.

As for the keyboard, it's totally awesome.

Well, the only problem is the price. It's such a luxury that the saved money can be used as fund to buy a new rig.
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laugh.gif Sorry for the small palm issue bro... Guess I'm lucky that it fits me well then. wink.gif Anyway, I believe the price I pay for it is seriously worth it, though I hope Microsoft could have improved on certain bits. But nevertheless, it's money well spent!
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post Apr 22 2009, 11:23 PM

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nice gaming stuff u got there, anyway what the retail price for tat mouse? Does the mouse run on cable mode n wireless mode? if yes, then its a good mouse
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QUOTE(David900924 @ Apr 22 2009, 11:23 PM)
nice gaming stuff u got there, anyway what the retail price for tat mouse? Does the mouse run on cable mode n wireless mode? if yes, then its a good mouse
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the retail prices vary but i've heard that some selling 1st gen sidewinder mouse for rm119 in lowyat....yes the mouse runs both in wired(charging) and wireless mode.... brows.gif as for that price of the x8 mouse compared to the up coming mamba, wonder which will be more significant whistling.gif

@Enigmare

there's this limited edition of sidewinder keyboard from red alert 3 links below..thought that you may wanna post it up too brows.gif drool.gif

http://www.ea.com.sg/redalert3/
*click on the bonus exclusive! on the pic to view it*

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post Apr 22 2009, 11:38 PM

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yeah, the shop selling the sidewinder mouse for rm119 is thundermatch. wanna clear stocks i guess. wonder whether the promo is still on.. hmm.gif
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i have big hands and long fingers. my thumb would be like grabbing the edged part. LOL...
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post Apr 22 2009, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(David900924 @ Apr 22 2009, 11:23 PM)
nice gaming stuff u got there, anyway what the retail price for tat mouse? Does the mouse run on cable mode n wireless mode? if yes, then its a good mouse
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Yeah it does run on and off charge. So it's wired while charging, and wireless while not - reasons why I love it. wub.gif Anyway, I think right now the best price I can find is RM275 from kingcom in garage sales, I got my set from him. I couldn't find anyone else selling the X8 mouse. For the keyboard it's RM275 also, but some other guy is selling at RM225 in bulk orders. Funny thing is, I PM-ed him but his response wasn't very nice... rclxub.gif
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i got 2 units of sidewinder keyboards for my friends from the seller selling at rm225. quite a nice guy IMHO. there's another seller, Cex, selling at rm229.

btw, is the sidewinder mouse bigger than the logitech g5? it certainly looks so.
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QUOTE(dlwl @ Apr 23 2009, 12:05 AM)
i got 2 units of sidewinder keyboards for my friends from the seller selling at rm225. quite a nice guy IMHO. there's another seller, Cex, selling at rm229.

btw, is the sidewinder mouse bigger than the logitech g5? it certainly looks so.
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laugh.gif Nice price, sadly I got mine already... Anyway, the X8 is similar in size, and its back slightly larger that's all. wink.gif
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QUOTE(dlwl @ Apr 23 2009, 12:05 AM)
i got 2 units of sidewinder keyboards for my friends from the seller selling at rm225. quite a nice guy IMHO. there's another seller, Cex, selling at rm229.

btw, is the sidewinder mouse bigger than the logitech g5? it certainly looks so.
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wow, nice deals there... wonder if malaysia got the red alert decals version hmm.gif
regarding the size of the mouse, here's a comparison of the 1st gen sidewinder mouse with g9, g7(same size as g5, just without cable):
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comparison of sidewinder mouse x8 and logitech's mx518:
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comparison of sidewinder mouse x5 and x8:
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enjoy!!! icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Apr 23 2009, 05:23 AM

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I just love the sidewinder keyboard.. But no money yet for now to buy.. It cannot be tilt upwards at all?
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Apr 23 2009, 05:23 AM)
I just love the sidewinder keyboard.. But no money yet for now to buy.. It cannot be tilt upwards at all?
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Yeah, it doesn't have the "legs" at the back of the keyboard to tilt it up, which makes a normal RM10 keyboard feel proud about it. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Apr 23 2009, 05:23 AM)
I just love the sidewinder keyboard.. But no money yet for now to buy.. It cannot be tilt upwards at all?
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same with u
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to ts, i would like to ask you some question, x8 basically uses aa battery right? is it included in the sales package? and if yes, is it rechargeable or it just equipped with normal non-rechargeable ones?
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QUOTE(eternity4av @ Apr 23 2009, 10:08 AM)
to ts, i would like to ask you some question, x8 basically uses aa battery right? is it included in the sales package? and if yes, is it rechargeable or it just equipped with normal non-rechargeable ones?
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It is included and it is rechargeable...
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QUOTE(Aura @ Apr 23 2009, 10:16 AM)
It is included and it is rechargeable...
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wow, just for rm275? wondering why? while the razer mamba can hit up to rm500, crazy! by the way, what's the mouse weight?
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QUOTE(eternity4av @ Apr 23 2009, 10:18 AM)
wow, just for rm275? wondering why? while the razer mamba can hit up to rm500, crazy! by the way, what's the mouse weight?
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Yup... That's why I said this mouse is a value buy now.... As for weight I'm not sure.... It is slightly heavier than the Diamondback 3G bcos of the battery... If u take out the battery, then it is slightly lighter than Diamondback 3G... That's how I feel la... Still personal opinion... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Aura @ Apr 23 2009, 10:29 AM)
Yup... That's why I said this mouse is a value buy now.... As for weight I'm not sure.... It is slightly heavier than the Diamondback 3G bcos of the battery... If u take out the battery, then it is slightly lighter than Diamondback 3G... That's how I feel la... Still personal opinion... tongue.gif
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freaking value is what I can say, but I've never touch Diamondback 3G. only have Deathadder, Ikari Optical and Laser, how lei? lolz
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QUOTE(eternity4av @ Apr 23 2009, 11:52 AM)
freaking value is what I can say, but I've never touch Diamondback 3G. only have Deathadder, Ikari Optical and Laser, how lei? lolz
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I suggest u go and try it out urself.... I also onli used 2 gaming mice before onli, which is X8 and Diamondback 3G.... tongue.gif
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any shop at lyp have the display set of X8?anyone knows?
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any shop at lyp have the display set of X8?anyone knows?
my hand so gatal to try lor..lol sweat.gif
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i went there last week, can't even see a bulu of x8, lolz
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X6 keyboard owner reporting in.

This keyboard is awesome, the typing feeling is good on this keyboard.

I use this keyboard for Macro purposes only.

Not for gaming =X
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QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ Apr 23 2009, 04:09 PM)
X6 keyboard owner reporting in.

This keyboard is awesome, the typing feeling is good on this keyboard.

I use this keyboard for Macro purposes only.

Not for gaming =X
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actually its difficult to set the macro for this sidewinder set.. rclxub.gif
can u tell me how to set it?? icon_question.gif

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Is it that hard?

All you have to do is press the Left top corner Microsoft Interlli- something something button, and then, From there, select your key, which is S1 - S12, or If Numpad Macro enable, S1 - S30, and then bind the key to

1) Key stroke,
2) Program
3) Folder/file
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And then, every different program can set different 3 Banks of macros, + the default 3 Banks macro.

So fun.
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QUOTE(eternity4av @ Apr 23 2009, 10:18 AM)
wow, just for rm275? wondering why? while the razer mamba can hit up to rm500, crazy! by the way, what's the mouse weight?
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Yeah, it's RM275, like while the fella still has stock. I think kingcom is the only one selling the X8... Cuz like I said, I couldn't find anyone else at all selling the X8... rclxub.gif

Anyway, I didn't know a Mamba would cost RM500... Maybe the initial price, but from what I hear, the X8 is actually scheduled to be priced @RM399.. rclxub.gif
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microsoft sidewinder gamepad and joystick used to be legend...now, ms doesn't care about them anymore. sigh cry.gif

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 23 2009, 05:55 PM)
microsoft sidewinder gamepad and joystick used to be legend...now, ms doesn't care about them anymore. sigh cry.gif
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No lar... Look now, MS coming back with their nice new X8. Seems like Microsoft is really making a comeback for Sidewinder.. laugh.gif Think about it this way - how often do you game with joypads nowadays? And was FPS as famous back then? The mice are the new gamepads for games!
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now FPS game getting famous, like farcry,crysis, and left 4dead, they shall made a gun mouse like zalman FPS gun mouse.... i been waiting here in bulk order to join but nobody seem to care for tat zalman sad.gif
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how much dis baby gona fetch
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Apr 24 2009, 12:47 PM)
how much dis baby gona fetch
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This baby's gonna fetch RM350++ IMHO once it floods the market, so the seller tells me... rclxub.gif
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Is there a wired Sidewinder mouse with BlueTrack technology?
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post Apr 26 2009, 03:46 PM

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bluetrack is wat ?

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Huh, bluetrack? Startrack i know la... Wakaka
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QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Apr 26 2009, 03:46 PM)
bluetrack is wat ?
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BlueTrack is the next generation of Laser tracking fellas... Unlike normal laser mice, this mice can track on Glass and Marble. wink.gif Oh, and no, there are only 2 mice so far with BlueTrack tech - Microsoft's X8 and the Intellimouse Explorer something if not mistaken...

P.S. Am I the only one who owns an X8? Where are the others?? laugh.gif
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Ur not the only one who owns x8.. sweat.gif try asking around..
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post Apr 26 2009, 06:14 PM

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I'm not the X8 user but did try and did research before

Sidewinder X8 is a 4000dpi Wired and Wireless dual usage gaming mouse.

Sidewinder X8 can be as wireless mouse or wired mouse, likewise you can charge your mouse battery while you are wired mode and while you want go for wireless just unplug the wire, simple!

The feel of X8 is quite same as Sidewinder mouse but without the weight cartridge like X5.

Bluetrack is a new technology that upper level than laser mouse A BIT .... seriously I'm also the Bluetrack Mouse user so I know, Bluetrack add some extra options which can track certain smooth surface and rough surface like human skin(anywhere you like)... fur, marble, cloth, wooden, soil .... etc. different surface difference performance of course =)

HOWEVER .... it had a very weird negative options .... which cannot track white paper surface which is opposite than optical mouse and also still it cannot track under glass surface (In 40%~100% transparency) =.= .. half transparency may be works well .... sometimes XD

the advantages is just you can play your mouse any where in many types of surface which laser mouse cannot do it

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QUOTE(wingster @ Apr 26 2009, 06:14 PM)
I'm not the X8 user but did try and did research before

Sidewinder X8 is a 4000dpi Wired and Wireless dual usage gaming mouse.

Sidewinder X8 can be as wireless mouse or wired mouse, likewise you can charge your mouse battery while you are wired mode and while you want go for wireless just unplug the wire, simple!

The feel of X8 is quite same as Sidewinder mouse but without the weight cartridge like X5.

Bluetrack is a new technology that upper level than laser mouse A BIT .... seriously I'm also the Bluetrack Mouse user so I know, Bluetrack add some extra options which can track certain smooth surface and rough surface like human skin(anywhere you like)... fur, marble, cloth, wooden, soil .... etc. different surface difference performance of course =)

HOWEVER .... it had a very weird negative options .... which cannot track white paper surface which is opposite than optical mouse and also still it cannot track under glass surface (In 40%~100% transparency) =.= .. half transparency may be works well .... sometimes XD 

the advantages is just you can play your mouse any where in many types of surface which laser mouse cannot do it
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Very good input from wingster there. Mind sharing with us what kind of mouse you use?

Just something to add, eventhough blue track tech provides you the ability to track better than a laser track mouse, please don't use it on soil, etc and don't use a sand paper as your mousepad please shocking.gif as it is better to preserve the mouse that you bought for that amount of money...just a thought. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Apr 26 2009, 06:39 PM)
i hope can get microsoft mouse an keyboard.
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why not? just click some threads in garage sales...and voila.. icon_idea.gif ...and maybe go to lowyat or other pc hardware shops nearby your house...

On the other hand, guys i need input on this...I know that the x6 KB doesn't comes with tilt-able "feet"(don't know what you call them) but is there any other way to make it tilt...so far what i can think of is to put used rubber eraser underneath it. sweat.gif ...
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QUOTE(DjK @ Apr 26 2009, 06:38 PM)
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Very good input from wingster there. Mind sharing with us what kind of mouse you use?

Just something to add, eventhough blue track tech provides you the ability to track better than a laser track mouse, please don't use it on soil, etc and don't use a sand paper as your mousepad please shocking.gif as it is better to preserve the mouse that you bought for that amount of money...just a thought. tongue.gif
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L-O-L... Use mouse on Sandpaper - hey, at least can smoothen the bottom what... I'll try that on my X8.. brows.gif
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L-O-L... Use mouse on Sandpaper - hey, at least can smoothen the bottom what... I'll try that on my X8.. brows.gif
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wah....you sure bro?? shocking.gif shakehead.gif ...later your teflon mousefeet gone case wei...somemore i don't think anybody sells the mouse feet yet...its not out on the market yet...
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QUOTE(DjK @ Apr 26 2009, 07:05 PM)
wah....you sure bro?? shocking.gif  shakehead.gif ...later your teflon mousefeet gone case wei...somemore i don't think anybody sells the mouse feet yet...its not out on the market yet...
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I was joking la.. laugh.gif Besides, if I damage my mousie's feet, there's 2 sets of "spares". Remember? brows.gif Check out the pic in the first page, got 2 different sets enclosed within the receiver... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(DjK @ Apr 26 2009, 06:38 PM)
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Very good input from wingster there. Mind sharing with us what kind of mouse you use?

Just something to add, eventhough blue track tech provides you the ability to track better than a laser track mouse, please don't use it on soil, etc and don't use a sand paper as your mousepad please shocking.gif as it is better to preserve the mouse that you bought for that amount of money...just a thought. tongue.gif
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Im using Explorer Mouse .... a wireless 800dpi mouse =.= and also out of the Sidewinder series XD

I did try on soil quite ... fun.

right now because my mouse has a certain part is made by metal so right now getting a little rusty ..

I also test running on the grass ... maybe that cause my mouse get rust =.=

also X8 has same distance as Explorer Mouse you can play your mouse in about 10m-20m range in wireless ......................
which you can control your mouse at outside your house, your dongle inside the house ....





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QUOTE(Enigmare @ Apr 26 2009, 07:18 PM)
I was joking la.. laugh.gif Besides, if I damage my mousie's feet, there's 2 sets of "spares". Remember? brows.gif Check out the pic in the first page, got 2 different sets enclosed within the receiver... tongue.gif
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hehe i know...coz my sidewinder mouse oso have them...but then if it were the full teflon feet wore out..then you would only have the half and full plastic to use...so it would also be a waste right??..ahha

@wingster,

whats a dongle??? blink.gif
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Sidewinder is very nice but i want a keyboard that can tilt upwards doh.gif


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whats a dongle??? blink.gif
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Sidewinder is very nice but i want a keyboard that can tilt upwards doh.gif


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wireless receiver  smile.gif
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QUOTE(wingster @ Apr 26 2009, 07:34 PM)
Im using Explorer Mouse .... a wireless 800dpi mouse =.= and also out of the Sidewinder series XD

I did try on soil quite ... fun.

right now because my mouse has a certain part is made by metal so right now getting a little rusty ..

I also test running on the grass ... maybe that cause my mouse get rust =.=

also X8 has same distance as Explorer Mouse you can play your mouse in about 10m-20m range in wireless ......................
which you can control your mouse at outside your house, your dongle inside the house ....
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Um, that's the great thing about the X8 mouse, but I don't see the use for using your mouse out of your house though... huh.gif
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for fun lor .... also my Explorer Mouse almost alike of remote control because whenever I watch any movie by connect the projectile or LCD TV I always use my mouse to control thats why I move my mouse anywhere include my house garden


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wow, that is really great, seems like the receivers working perfectly huh?
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After so long, still no sign of x8 owners around.. laugh.gif I'm still waiting for people's responses on how well the x8 is in terms of performance for them..
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if i not mistaken there are a owner earlier than you own x8, Aura i think.
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Wow, I just noticed that the rear of my X8 looks like it has a diffuser, similar to what a Ferrari has... laugh.gif Damn nice.. tongue.gif
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sweat really get poison after a seeing the X8 too much looks like I wanna sell of G9 and Explorer Mouse =.= .... for this mouse however I hate this mouse lack of one thingy which is ONBOARD Macro .... sad to me through =_=
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Hehehe... Time for someone to buy X8 eh? brows.gif
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Yeah and the price is same price as my explorer mouse =.= Im a little regret after I seen this godlike mouse X_X
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Prices are like that ma... Don't complain, just buy and savour its Godliness~ laugh.gif
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by the way bro ... is this mouse wireless receiver is the wire?

Oh well did know that the dongle is so huge =.= .... so big than I expected which is not so good for complete portable ....

well after the research yea Razer Mamba and Microsoft Sidewinder X8 has awesome performance but lose against 1 big think with Logitech G7 Wireless Gaming mouse is the dongle ....

both new mouse gives a sick problem to laptop user because the punk core X8 and wire plug has wipe out with the G7 easy and small little dongle =_=

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QUOTE(wingster @ Apr 28 2009, 10:42 PM)
by the way bro ... is this mouse wireless receiver is the wire?

Oh well did know that the dongle is so huge =.= .... so big than I expected which is not so good for complete portable ....

well after the research yea Razer Mamba and Microsoft Sidewinder X8 has awesome performance but lose against 1 big think with Logitech G7 Wireless Gaming mouse is the dongle ....

both new mouse gives a sick problem to laptop user because the punk core X8 and wire plug has wipe out with the G7 easy and small little dongle =_=
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It's not THAT big la, and I simply can't be bothered about the dongle size cuz it's just left on my table - and why care when you get such awesome performance??? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ Apr 27 2009, 03:16 PM)
After so long, still no sign of x8 owners around.. laugh.gif I'm still waiting for people's responses on how well the x8 is in terms of performance for them..
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Ada la... I did posted some comments of my own in terms of the weight... As for performance, damn good for a wireless gaming mouse.... Goes nicely with my 30" Dell...

Tried some FPS on it and it is fantastic.... Totally recommended.... Also most importantly, comfortable... I've tried gaming on this mouse for at least 30hrs straight without my hands aching....

Also, the myth of X8 doesn't work properly on cloth surfaces is really bull.... I'm using on Qck and it works fine....

P.S: For users that don't like wireless, u can just attach the cable onto the mouse and it can be used as wired also (even without batteries also will work if the cable is attached) tongue.gif

QUOTE(eternity4av @ Apr 27 2009, 08:30 PM)
if i not mistaken there are a owner earlier than you own x8, Aura i think.
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Yup... There's one user who owns this mouse earlier also... But I'm the 1st to get it when it arrived in M'sia... tongue.gif


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by the way bro ... is this mouse wireless receiver is the wire?

Oh well did know that the dongle is so huge =.= .... so big than I expected which is not so good for complete portable ....

well after the research yea Razer Mamba and Microsoft Sidewinder X8 has awesome performance but lose against 1 big think with Logitech G7 Wireless Gaming mouse is the dongle ....

both new mouse gives a sick problem to laptop user because the punk core X8 and wire plug has wipe out with the G7 easy and small little dongle =_=
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Aiyo.... The wireless receiver is actually a combination of mousefeet storage, cable management and also charger.... All in one.... Better than the G7 in every aspect in terms of design....

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but bring less portable .... well is good for desktop but quite bad for laptop user as I know ,.... the dongle or I say the punk is not the problem but too much wire @_@ ... well the truth is the charge and go is pawn off the bloody expensive razer mamba but the wire issue still make me not afford on this cons ....

but anyway decide to brought it after I sell off my Explorer Mouse ..
eventhrough I like my explorer mouse but is quite uncomfort due for long usage because its the metallic coated like steel series mouse but it can be very oil once I hold up my mouse for a minute .... maybe that's my problem ... I use my G9 mouse did not had so much problem thanks for the dry grip but still I love wireless more than wired =3



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QUOTE(wingster @ Apr 29 2009, 07:11 AM)
but bring less portable .... well is good for desktop but quite bad for laptop user as I know ,....
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I'm a laptop gamer =P .... also portable user thats why ... I always go here go there for my laptop for gaming or college ....

Laptop is main core and those speaker,headphone gaming mouse and gaming keyboard and heat fan are my docking stations X_X

Finally sell off my beloved Explorer Mouse ready for deposit my new lovely X8 and take it at May =w=



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aura, how long do you need to charge full for the x8? what's the batt life span (for each full recharge) ?
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aura, how long do you need to charge full for the x8? what's the batt life span (for each full recharge) ?
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For full charge, I din really time how long.... As for usage, it can last up to 30hrs per full charge.... I'll inform u guys if I got time how long full charge will be.... biggrin.gif
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alrite, haha, planning to buy 1 unit for my new rig actually.. smile.gif
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actually 30 hours usage by using 1 AA battery, the battery life might able to hit 3 days if you plays 12 hours per days, if not serious gaming I guess it should be last more longer
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QUOTE(wingster @ Apr 29 2009, 07:01 PM)
actually 30 hours usage by using 1 AA battery, the battery life might able to hit 3 days if you plays 12 hours per days, if not serious gaming I guess it should be last more longer
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my X8 last for more than a week with full charge...of cos on normal usage only la...but the battery life is really superb lo... biggrin.gif
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The rated 30 hrs is actually continuous usage on one go based on full charge...
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hehe going to get my beloved X8 .... good bye my Explorer Mousie .... >.<
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QUOTE(wingster @ Apr 30 2009, 02:45 PM)
hehe going to get my beloved X8 .... good bye my Explorer Mousie .... >.<
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WOW! Didn't knew SideWinder X8 will have QA/QC issue... Wanted to buy it from kingcom few days ago until I saw Razer Mamba coming to M'sia...
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QUOTE(wingster @ Apr 30 2009, 09:36 PM)
Alright finally take off my X8 ... Sidewinder

Here's my self review:

First I like the mouse design, looks more sexy than G9 Gaming Mouse. This mouse has 4000 dpi which good for RTS game and fast dpi user ...

However I starting to hate the mouse ... after I found the cons

1) Dunno some Sidewinder X8 user, I'm has the unbalancing Mouse Feet ! What the hell which means the mouse feet comes with certain unbalancing stances, I did change all the mouse feet I found out that the mouse will be comes unbalance is because the 2 mouse feet at the back part of the Sidewinder mouse, seriously this is troublesome while playing FPS game, how do I describe ... while you use sniper or toggle your mouse will lean down! what the makes the mouse keeps shaking until I mad ... and the end I remove 2 of the mouse feet at the back and yet it becomes smooth and precision .... however still can feel the unbalance because losing of the 2 mouse feet but is better than wearing that 2 mouse feet at the back.

Another shit or maybe the advantage of the DISADVANTAGES .. the mouse punk cannot be used under 2.0 USB port means you cannot plug in any G15, Reclusa, Sidewinder keyboard because is high energy supply.

Last cons is oh yea scroll problem, scroll down still fine but when scroll you will said what the hell is .... kek kek kek sound will heard on your ears, but this is the small cons than the others two

Now conclusions ... dunno is my problem I found that X8 is a nice but still bad mouse
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However after the study of this mouse, ya it has much pros than cons
expect the mouse feet problem (because thats my problem) ...

This mouse has very good thumb button design, instead of using the front and back thumb button, Sidewinder series breaking the design by using top and bottom thumb button, in X8 the design is much more better because the button are dent inside and feet in with the thumb make it comfort and easy to press off without tweaking off your thumbnail.

The main clicking button, in my feel this mouse clicking has a fast clicking feel (meaning the click down and up feel is faster)

Lastly the Intellpoint software, yet I say the Precision Booster and the 360 Angle Turning is an ownage ability in FPS, first precision booster can slow down your mouse movement even the mouse pointer dpi sensor is quite high, you can use it while you facing difficulty of switching dpi in speed. Yeap, meaning you using your sniper rifle and aim the enemy in slow and precision while holding on the button (Precision Booster) after you kill off, release off the button and switch to normal settings fps aim.
And thats the only function I do like very much ...... in FPS is awesome !

About the mouse feet, yup those spare mouse feet has thier small tiny difference on each surface ..

Black mouse feet
-Smooth in half transparent glass, smooth metallic surface and marble surface but quite little rough in wood(smooth) surface, very rough in wall or solid surface

White mouse feet
-Smooth in half transparent glass, smooth metallic suface and marble also very smooth wooden surface but little tiny rough on smooth wooden surface followed by wall and solid surface also

Grey mouse feet
-Smooth in smooth to very smooth wooden surface, pvc table surface and paper surface but rough in most solid, metallic surface

... and actually not much difference also =_= just the grey mouse feet show a little difference

yet still not disappoint me yet ... I contact with kingom and he can help me to change the mouse ... =.=


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wow, this is damm detailed review, thanks. how about pinned this at front page?
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Seems like quite a good mouse indeed. Does the X8 tracking good in wood table? Feel like getting it for my laptop.
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Finally! Another fellow X8 user! What's with the Unbalanced feet? Care to take a picture to show?? I've never experienced that problem before...

Anyway, I've linked your reviews to the first page wingster. wink.gif Hope to hear more positive comments (hopefully laugh.gif) from u soon..
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yea ... by the way Im seal back the mouse for exchange ....

hope to get a really 100% non-problematical problem to me again ..


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hi bros...

i am interested with Sidewinder and Sidewinder X5...

wanna hear some opinions abt them, especially the bad... ( i can always read the good in MS website)

which one is more worthy???

i am going to use it with a laptop, btw...

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Added on May 4, 2009, 12:47 amoh yeah, for X8 rit, issit suitable for laptop users??? cuz wingster said the diameter of the dongle is 8cm, which is still pretty bulky...

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QUOTE(wingster @ May 1 2009, 06:15 PM)
Surfaces                                         Performance
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Cloth                                                    Weak
What kind of cloth 1st??? I'm using a cloth mousepad and I dun hav any problems with it.... Explain weak... I've tested between exactMat and Qck..... Conclusion is both feels the same to me.....


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hi bros...

i am interested with Sidewinder and Sidewinder X5...

wanna hear some opinions abt them, especially the bad... ( i can always read the good in MS website)

which one is more worthy???

i am going to use it with a laptop, btw...

thx


Added on May 4, 2009, 12:47 amoh yeah, for X8 rit, issit suitable for laptop users??? cuz wingster said the diameter of the dongle is 8cm, which is still pretty bulky...
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Go for X8.... I will avoid Sidewinder and X5 due to the design and comfort level that it delivers....

The reason why the dongle is kind of large is bcos it houses 2 sets of mouse feet and it helps u to manage ur cables....

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ya, i understand y the size, but i am going to use it with my laptop + moving around pretty often... thus i find the dongle may be cumbersome...
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QUOTE(astria @ May 4 2009, 01:03 AM)
ya, i understand y the size, but i am going to use it with my laptop + moving around pretty often...  thus i find the dongle may be cumbersome...
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I also understand.... It is actually ur choice.... But I prefer that a mouse should give u comfort in terms of long usage.... That's why I suggest X8.... So, to me, the dongle won't be cumbersome..... Personal preference.... Depends on u...
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ Apr 26 2009, 05:17 PM)
BlueTrack is the next generation of Laser tracking fellas... Unlike normal laser mice, this mice can track on Glass and Marble. wink.gif Oh, and no, there are only 2 mice so far with BlueTrack tech - Microsoft's X8 and the Intellimouse Explorer something if not mistaken...
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BlueTrack its Optical (BlueLight) not Laser.

Blue Specular Optics
Microsoft’s proprietary high-angle imaging optics generate more exact surface images — even of shiny surfaces such as granite and marble — instead of blurry, out-of-focus images, as can be produced by many of the leading laser mice. And blue light helps create high-resolution, high-contrast images for better navigation.

Four Times as Wide, More Diffuse Beam for Better Imaging and Tracking
The wider beam enables illumination of a larger surface area and allows more light to return to the sensor. This helps for tracking on irregular surfaces such as carpet, where smaller laser beams often get lost between the individual fibers. The BlueTrack Technology light source is optimized to provide illumination at the tracking surface that is more uniform than current laser or optical mice. This illumination is accomplished by using a new optical element, never before used in a mouse. The light source is encapsulated in a diffusing optic that smoothes out hot spots within the illumination profile. While the concept of diffused lighting is well known, the application of diffused light sources to mice is a Microsoft proprietary technology.

Incoherent Blue Light
Laser mice use coherent light that’s easily disrupted by dust and dirt, leading to poor tracking. The Explorer Mouse and Explorer Mini Mouse’s incoherent blue light doesn’t have the extreme sensitivity to dust, so the signal quality is maintained. This means your mouse will provide excellent performance even in a less than clean environment — you’ll get great precision performance in a dusty workshop or outdoors just as you do on an ideal clean surface.

Q: Why is a Blue LED light better than a red one or a laser? How does its DPI compare to other mice technologies?
A: Blue light allows the sensor to capture a high-contrast image of the surface. For example, the blue light beneficially interacts with fluorescent dyes in some surfaces to increase the amount of reflected light relative to an infrared laser beam. The physics is similar to that of the “blue light” used in crime-scene TV shows to examine surfaces for police investigations.


QUOTE(wingster @ Apr 30 2009, 09:36 PM)
Another shit or maybe the advantage of the DISADVANTAGES .. the mouse punk cannot be used under 2.0 USB port means you cannot plug in any G15, Reclusa, Sidewinder keyboard because is high energy supply.
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Its normal that a high performance gaming mice to plug-in direct to yer pc due power-consumption as even my old DiamondBack Plasma LE has issue power it up if i don't direct plug into my pc.

Not to sure what u said abt "the mouse puck cannot be used under 2.0 USB port means you cannot plug in any G15, Reclusa, Sidewinder keyboard".

Is it you meant that can't be use on USB 1.1 ports?..

Btw, its "puck" (as it looks like a ice hockey puck) not "punk"... sweat.gif

Cheers smile.gif

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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ May 4 2009, 05:12 AM)
BlueTrack its Optical (BlueLight) not Laser.

Blue Specular Optics
Microsoft’s proprietary high-angle imaging optics generate more exact surface images — even of shiny surfaces such as granite and marble — instead of blurry, out-of-focus images, as can be produced by many of the leading laser mice. And blue light helps create high-resolution, high-contrast images for better navigation.

Four Times as Wide, More Diffuse Beam for Better Imaging and Tracking
The wider beam enables illumination of a larger surface area and allows more light to return to the sensor. This helps for tracking on irregular surfaces such as carpet, where smaller laser beams often get lost between the individual fibers. The BlueTrack Technology light source is optimized to provide illumination at the tracking surface that is more uniform than current laser or optical mice. This illumination is accomplished by using a new optical element, never before used in a mouse. The light source is encapsulated in a diffusing optic that smoothes out hot spots within the illumination profile. While the concept of diffused lighting is well known, the application of diffused light sources to mice is a Microsoft proprietary technology.

Incoherent Blue Light
Laser mice use coherent light that’s easily disrupted by dust and dirt, leading to poor tracking. The Explorer Mouse and Explorer Mini Mouse’s incoherent blue light doesn’t have the extreme sensitivity to dust, so the signal quality is maintained. This means your mouse will provide excellent performance even in a less than clean environment — you’ll get great precision performance in a dusty workshop or outdoors just as you do on an ideal clean surface.

Q:    Why is a Blue LED light better than a red one or a laser? How does its DPI compare to other mice technologies?
A:    Blue light allows the sensor to capture a high-contrast image of the surface. For example, the blue light beneficially interacts with fluorescent dyes in some surfaces to increase the amount of reflected light relative to an infrared laser beam. The physics is similar to that of the “blue light” used in crime-scene TV shows to examine surfaces for police investigations.

Its normal that a high performance gaming mice to plug-in direct to yer pc due power-consumption as even my old DiamondBack Plasma LE has issue power it up if i don't direct plug into my pc.

Not to sure what u said abt "the mouse puck cannot be used under 2.0 USB port means you cannot plug in any G15, Reclusa, Sidewinder keyboard".

Is it you meant that can't be use on USB 1.1 ports?..

Btw, its "puck" (as it looks like a ice hockey puck) not "punk"...  sweat.gif

Cheers smile.gif
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maybe I angry of the puck called it as punk .... thanks for the correction

hmm doesn't Bluetrack is the next generation after laser?
but yes you rite that it is optic ...

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And yes ... This mouse does not support 1.1 USB port due to the huge combination ...

hmm ...


Added on May 4, 2009, 8:53 am
QUOTE(astria @ May 4 2009, 01:03 AM)
ya, i understand y the size, but i am going to use it with my laptop + moving around pretty often...  thus i find the dongle may be cumbersome...
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bro ... the dongle is all in package .... so is still good for portable since it expel the charger and the huge socket ....

well I suggest to find sumthing to hang on or put your dongle into your beg might be better ... but still need a small table or some space for your mouse is a must ... if you can't then better yo use your laptop pad .... for controlling the mouse

oh well for the battery no need to afraid ... once you did charge 2 hours, you can use up to 70 hours if you not seriously gaming or to clearly tell you that ,... you don't always continues for spamming the mouse click or macros continuously ...

even is 8 cm .. but portable charging still another pro's of the portable usage .... instead of find the plug for charging go usb plug and charge thats simple =2=


Added on May 4, 2009, 8:56 am
@Aura

err.... sorry for weak mention I mean the T-Shirt cloths we wearing everyday

never try for the mousepad

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hmm.. okok... maybe i go take a look at the real stuff first... thx
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hehe feel it and try ...

but for certain people ... the first try of the Sidewinder X8 might be feel the main button ... too easily be hit .. especially hit two left click and right at the same time .. but after a few days of using might feel better and use this advantage on AWP Sniper rifle in CS =.=

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Hmm, I find reading the screen a little hard, maybe it's a little too small. tongue.gif Nevertheless, at least there's a screen for me, unlike the Mamba. laugh.gif I've yet to get used to the signs, as there are some weird icons around.. rclxub.gif
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Wee .. finally I exchange my mouse and yet the unbalance problem still there but only on the wooden surface like Ikea GALENT Table (Black Wood) ... on gaming mouse pad is fine .... so I find an option to solve out the problem ... which is the adding 1 slice of paper on to the mouse feet ...
now test on all surface finally the bloody problem is over XD
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how much this mouse (x8) selling in lowyat??
kingcom selling in garage sell a bit expensive(ppl tell la)

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w00t!.. Finally gotten a wireless/wired hybrid mouse!.. (Sidewinder X8 loh.. what else?!.. tongue.gif).

At first i thought the X8 will be too big for me, but actually pretty common size for a gamer mice.

Not to mentioned i have pretty small hand, and the size not too big for me, just it takes sometime to get use to it.

The magnetic power cable works great (very simple concept, yet very easy and convenient to use), much better than Razer Mamba.

Just tested it on UT3 and TF2, works great so far and hopefully no problem for many years to come too wink.gif

I gotta say, it looks much better than the first version of Sidewinder (the one comes with weights), as it is much bigger and less comfortable, luckily didn't get it even tho Thundermatch having promo at rm119.

For added info, i tested on practically all mouse surfaces (mousemat/mousepad):-
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1. Cloth mousemat (Razer Goliathus) = works great! thumbup.gif
2. Hard mousepad (Razer Exactmat) = works great! thumbup.gif
3. Glass mousepad (Corepad Magna Blue) = works wonderful! thumbup.gif

Cheers biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ May 5 2009, 01:16 AM)
w00t!.. Finally gotten a wireless/wired hybrid mouse!.. (Sidewinder X8 loh.. what else?!.. tongue.gif).

At first i thought the X8 will be too big for me, but actually pretty common size for a gamer mice.

Not to mentioned i have pretty small hand, and the size not too big for me, just it takes sometime to get use to it.

The magnetic power cable works great (very simple concept, yet very easy and convenient to use), much better than Razer Mamba.

Just tested it on UT3 and TF2, works great so far and hopefully no problem for many years to come too wink.gif

I gotta say, it looks much better than the first version of Sidewinder (the one comes with weights), as it is much bigger and less comfortable, luckily didn't get it even tho Thundermatch having promo at rm119.

For added info, i tested on practically all mouse surfaces (mousemat/mousepad):-
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1. Cloth mousemat (Razer Goliathus) = works great!  thumbup.gif
2. Hard mousepad (Razer Exactmat) = works great!  thumbup.gif
3. Glass mousepad (Corepad Magna Blue) = works wonderful!  thumbup.gif

Cheers biggrin.gif
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ThunderMatch offering at rm119?! shocking.gif shocking.gif 2moro i'm going to check out!! brows.gif
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Heres the my mice size comparison (Razer DiamondBack Plasma LE & Sidewinder X8) :-
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QUOTE(riku2replica @ May 5 2009, 01:51 AM)
ThunderMatch offering at rm119?!  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  2moro i'm going to check out!! brows.gif
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lol.. well i heard someone here said "out of stock" liaoz tongue.gif

Cheers whistling.gif
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anyone do some modding to sidewinder X6??
like put some decal RED alert 3..isk2..really wana grab this RA3 version.
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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ May 5 2009, 01:16 AM)
w00t!.. Finally gotten a wireless/wired hybrid mouse!.. (Sidewinder X8 loh.. what else?!.. tongue.gif).

At first i thought the X8 will be too big for me, but actually pretty common size for a gamer mice.

Not to mentioned i have pretty small hand, and the size not too big for me, just it takes sometime to get use to it.

The magnetic power cable works great (very simple concept, yet very easy and convenient to use), much better than Razer Mamba.

Just tested it on UT3 and TF2, works great so far and hopefully no problem for many years to come too wink.gif

I gotta say, it looks much better than the first version of Sidewinder (the one comes with weights), as it is much bigger and less comfortable, luckily didn't get it even tho Thundermatch having promo at rm119.

For added info, i tested on practically all mouse surfaces (mousemat/mousepad):-
=========================================

1. Cloth mousemat (Razer Goliathus) = works great!  thumbup.gif
2. Hard mousepad (Razer Exactmat) = works great!  thumbup.gif
3. Glass mousepad (Corepad Magna Blue) = works wonderful!  thumbup.gif

Cheers biggrin.gif
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If RM119 can purchase it should be OMG so cheap and so lucky XD

anyway ... cheers =)

hehe ... here's my photo of my new exchanged X8 Sidewinder...
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Sidewinder On the storm ...!!

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Up in red down in blue =w=

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Unleash the Red!!

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Live Plug or Unplugged

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Side 1500dpi

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Side 750dpi

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ummm the sidewinder x8 and the normal sidewinder mouse wat price.TQ getting i later.
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Sidewinder X8 from Kingcom sell's RM350 .... or you can try survey at lowyat to check the stock is coming or not?

1st Sidewinder (non-X) sell for RM 250 ... in all IT not sure about the price now you may offer more lower price than that

If you cannot afford for X8 (now the price from kingcom is RM350) get a non-X version or X5 is ok if you are not a wireless fan =)

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Hmm.. Anymore X8 users so far??? Hey wingster, have you sorted out the "unbalanced mouse" issue yet?? laugh.gif
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yeah he exchange another better than previous unbalance mouse to me and adding 1 slice of paper solve the problem =3
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i will see it in pc fair 2 first.tq for the info.What do you mean non x version?

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QUOTE(wingster @ May 6 2009, 02:33 PM)
yeah he exchange another better than previous unbalance mouse to me and adding 1 slice of paper solve the problem =3
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More like uneven table whistling.gif..heh

QUOTE(H3LLKEEPER @ May 6 2009, 04:39 PM)
i will see it in pc fair 2 first.tq for the info.What do you mean non x version?
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non x version, meaning first version of Sidewinder loh.

Sidewinder got 3 mice so far :-
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1. Sidewinder (first Sidewinder released, and it doesn't have 'X' letter behind its name and can add weights to it).
2. Sidewinder X5 (cheapest version of Sidewinder due no weights expansion and using plastic scroll instead of metal).
3. Sidewinder X8 (wireless/wired hybrid mouse).

Err.. got it?.. blush.gif

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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ May 6 2009, 11:52 PM)
More like uneven table whistling.gif..heh
non x version, meaning first version of Sidewinder loh.

Sidewinder got 3 mice so far :-
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1. Sidewinder (first Sidewinder released, and it doesn't have 'X' letter behind its name and can add weights to it).
2. Sidewinder X5 (cheapest version of Sidewinder due no weights expansion and using plastic scroll instead of metal).
3. Sidewinder X8 (wireless/wired hybrid mouse).

Err.. got it?..  blush.gif

Cheers smile.gif
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actually, microsoft just recently released the sidewinder mouse x3...its even more basic than the x5 but then it lacks the "looks" to me...google it and you'll know what i mean...

@H3LLKEEPER,

i'm a owner of a sidewinder mouse and the pictures are posted at the bottom of the second post of this thread...hope that helps you to differentiate the sidewinders...also, i did post up some pictures of comparisons of the sidewinder mice(sidewinder, x5 and x8) at the bottom most of 1st page

hope this helps...

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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ May 6 2009, 11:52 PM)
More like uneven table whistling.gif..heh
non x version, meaning first version of Sidewinder loh.

Sidewinder got 3 mice so far :-
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1. Sidewinder (first Sidewinder released, and it doesn't have 'X' letter behind its name and can add weights to it).
2. Sidewinder X5 (cheapest version of Sidewinder due no weights expansion and using plastic scroll instead of metal).
3. Sidewinder X8 (wireless/wired hybrid mouse).

Err.. got it?..  blush.gif

Cheers smile.gif
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the new one yes the previous that the seller sell it to me has more serious problem on any table
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QUOTE(wingster @ May 7 2009, 08:02 AM)
the new one yes the previous that the seller sell it to me has more serious problem on any table
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He exchanged it for you??? As in totally FOC ka? laugh.gif Honestly, I think ur table must be "uneven" cuz I don't experience such "unbalance" issue. I doubt so especially when the X8 is meant to be a high-end mouse, not some cheap RM10 optical mouse you can find in any Ah Beng shop... tongue.gif

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sadly to tell you you must know that the microsoft sidewinder X8 mousefeet ...

unlike Logitech G9 and Razer Mouse they all made by rubber grip but sidewinder has special made by plastic coated with some smooth surfacer

likewise I do realize that the mouse feet will be grinded if you use it on very solid surface

any at least the problem has bee solved =3

now enjoy the gaming of RA3 and CS with my cool red mouse =D

For dota ... or some MMORPG games I still prefer my G9 due to the onboard memory advantages ...

Oh yea I wanna share some features ....

As we known this mouse is really bad for no onboard memory which gives bad for competitions also the 4000dpi lose out with the Razer Lachesis due for the onboard + 4000dpi in the advantage of LAN party ...

Microsoft ... lacks on it however there's a good news that X8 mouse still enable saves your dpi sensor memory... means the dpi you set up on to your mouse, whenever you go they still appear the settings you set on your on computer

comes to the usage .... did you think 4000dpi you can handle the speed?

for me 3000dpi I'm already hardly to control in a 19 inch widescreen monitor ..... 4000dpi might me more godlike .... not to say 5600dpi Razer Mamba , thats proudly insane for speed gamers ....

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@wingster : your post kinda confused me there... sweat.gif

Not sure what are u trying to say (especially the mouse feet part) when u didn't put a big alphabetical letter on each of your first few sentences, makes me wondering is it connected/continued to yer previous sentences above it..nor theres any full-stop there.. blink.gif

Easier if u just say the "pros" and "cons" way :-

In comparison to Razer DeathAdder (especially its practically same as Razer Mamba's shape, just that Mamba its wireless/wired hybrid).

Pros :-
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1. Easy to setup.
2. Extra 2 sets of spare mouse feets.
3. Great battery life (on one AA rechargeable battery!).
4. Nice weighted mouse.
5. Pretty good grip with its grooves at the sides.
6. Non-rubberized, which makes easier to clean.
7. Simple and ingenious design on the charge-cable magnet.
8. Nimh AA Battery, easy to obtain and not to mentioned cheaper too.
9. Fast battery charge.
10. Very afforable wireless gaming mouse.
11. Macro on-the-fly.
12. Very easy to replace mouse feets.
13. Solid metal scroll button.
14. Good placement of side-buttons compared to the conventional front and back side-buttons.
15. Side-scroll button.
16. LCD built-in for additional info like dpi selection, charging, macro and etc.
17. Solid construction/build.
18. 'Quick-turn' feature simple yet useful for FPS gamers.
19. Alot buttons to customize.
20. Good dpi buttons placement on top of the mouse.
21. Works on all types mousepads/mats even on my table.
22. 3-years warranty (basically the longest warranty on a gaming mice).

Cons :-
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1. Less grip due its not rubberized (but it can be pros too as u no need to worry the rubber worn out or melted sticky feeling).
2. Could be more ergonomic on its design.
3. No 3rd-party mouse feet in case all mouse feets worn out (afaik).
4. No on-the-fly sensitivity.
5. No firmware upgradeable (well, it could be just no bugs especially serious ones on the X8).
6. No onboard memory (imo, not much ppl use it though.. can't say i really miss it, most probably saved cost too).

That's pretty much my opinion so far in my 3days of X8 usage.

Cheers flex.gif

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another proud owner of sidewinder x8, bought rom kingcom ..thinking on getting sidewinder keyboard x6 later..to replace the existing BT set of my logitech MX-5000, wonder why there isnt any gaming wireless keyboard, similar like the mice x6 , produced by ms yet????
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Wow! Welcome to the club! Finally another X8 user... There should be about 4 of us here now.. tongue.gif
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Sorry for my confusion, the explaination I'm given might not clear and very confusing to you all so I make another quite detail summary here and I will delete my previous review sooner...

Ok so I make the summary for extra details and given the new owner a clearly infomation on using all the mouse features.....

Sidewinder X8

As for general feature TomatomanzSeedlezz has point out most of the pro's and con's... so I straight foward for details on each features ...

1) Bluetrack Technology - To make it clear, Bluetrack technology actually is using the back the optical light but comes in blue color, with the blue optical light engine features, these Bluetrack engine mouse has more powerful tracking ability which can track more surface accurately than Laser mouse and given more precise tracking. Likewise, these Bluetrack Mouses which is Microsoft Explorer, Explorer Mini and Microsoft Sidewinder X8 Gaming Mouse has very smooth and great tracking performance on mosts of the gaming mousepad.

2) LCD Screen Display - LCD Screen Display only available for Microsoft Sidewinder and Sidewinder X8, the features of the LCD is displaying the DPI Settings and the Intellpoint "Quickturn" features. For Sidewinder X8, it added the Macro Record Button display which able for user to seen the settings of recording.

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3)Custom buttons and Macro Record Buttons - Yes, Sidewinder X8 has 5 customable buttons(excluding the main left and right click buttons) and added a macro record buttons which allow the users to setup a macro while in gaming.

Customable Buttons are:
-Top and Bottom Thumb Buttons
-Left and Right Click Buttons
-Wheel, Left and Right Wheel Tilt buttons

Uncustomable Buttons are:
-Gaming Shortcut File buttons (Silver Sidewinder Icons Button)
-Macro Record Buttons
-Dpi Sensitivity Buttons

Yet, here's the step of record the macro buttons:

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a) Press the Macro Record buttons, the Macro Record buttons will lights up in red and the LCD Display will show the icons of Macro Record Settings.
b) To known the Macro Record is recording or not recording, see the LCD Display, when you see the Mouse with an arrow, it means that the Macro record is not yet been setting up and you may press one of the button for macro record.
c) You can only select Right Click, Top and Bottom Thumb button, Wheel Button, Wheel Left and Right Tilt Buttons only for macro record.
d) Once you select the buttons, the LCD Display will become a rolling arrow display and the macro buttons will start blinking, right now you can assign the keys from your mouse or your keyboard for macro record.
e) While you finish your macro assignment, press the macro record button and your macro is recorded on your selected buttons on your mouse.

4) Gaming Shortcut Buttons - A simply buttons that opens the 'Games' file once you hit off the silver Sidewinder icon buttons.


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5)DPI On-the-fly buttons - Generally, there are three buttons for the on-the-fly settings, allows you to sets of your DPI settings on these buttons. I'm not sure for the others Sidewidner series mouse but for X8, the DPI sensitivity is recordable which means, once you set your current DPI on your Computer A, the DPI settings will remain the settings you set on the Computer A even you plug in your mouse into Computer B or Computer C without Intellpoint software and the Sidewinder mouse sensitivity settings*

*The Intellpoint Microsoft Mouse do only shows DPI sensitivity if your installation settings sets to Sidewinder series mouses

6) DPI Numbers Settings - Yes, here's the infomation of the DPI Numbers settings, unlike Logitech G9 mouse. Sidewinder DPI Sensivity comes in less choices of your DPI Settings and here's the numbers of the DPI Settings you may allow
for setup:

(Min) 250 < > 500 < > 750 < > 1000 < > 1500 < > 2000 < > 3000 < > 4000 (Max)

7) Mousefeet - Sidewinder Mousefeet comes with non-rubberized grip, much more of plastic made coat up with a smooth surface. You will have total up 3 sets of mouse feet (2 spare mouse feet). Because these mouse feet are not rubberized so it may cause your mouse suffering an unbalancing problem in some certain of very solid surface which I'm encounter it. Futhurmore, the mousefeet can be easily damaged and grinded if you let your mouse in a very solid surface especially those very hard surfaces. Here's the result that your mouse feet will be damage if you keep using on the hard and solid table:

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So if you extreamly care your mouse like me, kindly use your mouse with a cloth pad or straight forwardly play your mouse together with your cloth-type gaming mousepad or the soft and smooth surface like thick papers, cards and etc.
with soft + smooth surface.

8) Intellpoint Software - Mouse and Gaming Support Software

A Microsoft Software for all the Microsoft Mouses which given your mouse to assign different function, shortcut and macro's. No doubt, all the Microsoft Mouses has no on-board memory as Razer Lachesis and Mamba, also the Logitech G9 and G9x but Intellpoint gives a powerful gaming accelerations which is ; Quick Turn, Precision Booster and Gaming Toggle.

Now I do a short explaination about these features,

Quick Turn - Allows you to turns 360 degree in lighting speed, yet this is the powerful ability that others brand mouses besides Microsoft did not have it.

Precision Booster - An option for you to slowing down your mouse pointer in a short while, this features does not affect with any DPI decreases, like if you put your mouse DPI as 1000 sensitivity, while you use Precision Booster, your mouse do slows down by slowing down your Mouse Pointer speed. This is an option while you want do a short aiming and correct your mouse position especially in FPS while you using Machine Gun in full auto mode, it do helps a lots.
Precision Booster comes with two options which is Press and Hold and Toggle mode.

Gaming Toggle - A secondary quick macro record buttons, which allows you to instant record anything you press on the keyboard with up to 64 words. In sidewinder, while you use the gaming toggle, it will appear the small icons of Gaming Toggle.

For the instructions and how to using these features, just go to your buttons option and select these three feature, it will appear the guide for you that teach you how to works on these features. For Precision Booster it straight forward appear the settings and it did write the description on how the features do works for the Precision Booster window.

9) 3 in 1 Puck and battery info - yes the Puck is the Sidewinder X8, Charger + Wired plug-in + Mousefeet Storage + Wireless Receiver and yet howmuch does the battery can last long?

From the tester of Razer Mamba and Sidewinder users, they said both had same wireless battery life .....

For serious non-stop gaming, the battery life can lasts around 30 hours but after the testing, hardcore gaming can do last around 5~7 hours for Razer Mamba and around 10++ Hours for Sidewinder X8

(Need hard core gamer help to proving this)

For casual gaming which you play a few hours for 2 to 3 times and with a few hours break in a day (erm about 1~4 hours for game play and 30min ~ 2 hours rests ), the battery life can lasts around 70 hours

For not serious gaming which you only play up to 1 to 4 hours in a day, the battery life can lasts about more than 70 hours

And for full battery charge, you need one to two hours but still depends the condition of your mouse battery, temperature and the current battery life ......

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Hey wingster, the test drivers for the mamba are not in Malaysia right?? Where'd you get the "battery life with hardcore gaming" info? I've yet to see any sign of a Mamba here...
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From the reviews and feedback of outer seas not here ....

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QUOTE(wingster @ May 8 2009, 09:51 PM)
From the reviews and feedback of outer seas not here ....
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Are the reviews official? I doubt the mouse lasts "only 5-7 hours" of intense gaming..


Added on May 8, 2009, 10:35 pmOh yea, wingster, what camera are u using to take the photos? Compared to mine, yours look far superior... cry.gif

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err .... I'm using DSLR Camera + Some Photoshop

on topic ... dunno why those reviewer's has test out that the lifetime on the Razer Mamba (as the official said lasts around 14 hours) minimize to 4-5 hours and it might cause from the firmware

but to Sidewinder are very difference because both using different battery so Sidewinder X8 lasts more longer on hardcore gaming =X compare to Mamba and same life time as Logitech G7 I think

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After a little bit more than a week of testing, the X8 is a decent mouse although not exactly flawless. The mouse design is comfortable although at first, I have to get used with its narrower design compared to my old Lexma laser mouse (sometimes I have problem left/right-clicking the mouse). Takes a few days to do it.

The Bluetrack technology (which is the main reason why I bought it) works well on laminated printed glossy photo paper that I used as a mouse pad. Well, works as well as the older mouse at least. Haven't tried it too much on other surfaces, although I find out that the surface has to be flat for the tracking to work.

The battery life is very good. I do not use the supplied rechargeable battery but I use those disposable generic alkaline battery I bought from Giants hypermarket (Giant-branded - RM13 for 12 pieces pack) and it lasted for I think 7 or 8 days. During that period, I finished playing HL2: Episode 1 and some 15 hours of Left 4 Dead, plus general usage like posting to my blog here and other things like surfing etc.

My only complaint about the mouse is the weight. This mouse weight is double compared to my old mouse, and this really affect my aiming in Left 4 Dead. Not a factor in HL2: Episode 2 but my FF rate in Left 4 Dead increased when using this mouse. Even after a week, I still can't get used to the weight of this mouse, which means I now only play 'Normal' or 'Advanced' or even 'Easy' games online instead of the 'Expert' mode.
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QUOTE(asellus @ May 9 2009, 05:00 AM)
After a little bit more than a week of testing, the X8 is a decent mouse although not exactly flawless. The mouse design is comfortable although at first, I have to get used with its narrower design compared to my old Lexma laser mouse (sometimes I have problem left/right-clicking the mouse). Takes a few days to do it.

The Bluetrack technology (which is the main reason why I bought it) works well on laminated printed glossy photo paper that I used as a mouse pad. Well, works as well as the older mouse at least. Haven't tried it too much on other surfaces, although I find out that the surface has to be flat for the tracking to work.

The battery life is very good. I do not use the supplied rechargeable battery but I use those disposable generic alkaline battery I bought from Giants hypermarket (Giant-branded -  RM13 for 12 pieces pack) and it lasted for I think 7 or 8 days. During that period, I finished playing HL2: Episode 1 and some 15 hours of Left 4 Dead, plus general usage like posting to my blog here and other things like surfing etc.

My only complaint about the mouse is the weight. This mouse weight is double compared to my old mouse, and this really affect my aiming in Left 4 Dead. Not a factor in HL2: Episode 2 but my FF rate in Left 4 Dead increased when using this mouse. Even after a week, I still can't get used to the weight of this mouse, which means I now only play 'Normal' or 'Advanced' or even 'Easy' games online instead of the 'Expert' mode.
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hmm..... if hardcore gaming how long does it lasts? do you try before? I need someone here to proof that o.o

and yet I'm quite comfort on using these kind of big and quite heavy mouse since my previous gaming mouse are that heavy ......

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Any news wether MS will release the wireless version for X6 keyboard....thinking on getting the current X6, but already used with my current l Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5000.
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Right now there still no any others of wireless gaming keyboard ....

Maybe they encounter some problem....
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QUOTE(silencer @ May 9 2009, 01:49 PM)
Any news wether MS will release the wireless version for X6 keyboard....thinking on getting the current X6, but already used with my current l Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5000.
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Well, imo the closest u can get a wireless backlighted-keyboard its 'Wireless Entertainment Desktop 8000'.
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseand...ve_tab=overview

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any cheap x6 keyboard?
promotion ?
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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ May 9 2009, 04:35 PM)
Well, imo the closest u can get a wireless backlighted-keyboard its 'Wireless Entertainment Desktop 8000'.
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseand...ve_tab=overview

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the price is pretty insane to .... can buy many of G15 or even G19 XD likewise it also dun have numpad .... just like the normal laptop keypad but it's slim and rechargeable
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QUOTE(wingster @ May 9 2009, 04:58 PM)
the price is pretty insane to .... can buy many of G15 or even G19 XD likewise it also dun have numpad .... just like the normal laptop keypad but it's slim and rechargeable
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lol.. us$299 ... so abt rm1k...

Well... can't really compared with those wired keyboards u mention, as it comes with wireless laser mouse and docking station with 4-usb ports hub built-in tongue.gif

I read a few reviews on it.. but they didn't say abt the battery life.. and as expected.. it uses freaking 4-AA batteries!.. sweat.gif

Imo, its expensive due this cool feature as below :-

Intelligent Backlighting
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Backlighting comes on automatically when you approach the keyboard and turns off when you’re away, saving valuable battery life. And, backlight intensity automatically adjusts itself to the room lighting conditions.

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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ May 9 2009, 04:35 PM)
Well, imo the closest u can get a wireless backlighted-keyboard its 'Wireless Entertainment Desktop 8000'.
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseand...ve_tab=overview

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nice pics! is it better than razer lachesis? interested to get 1..
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The price is too darn expensive...and I believe that the function is similar with my current logitech BT desktop mx5000, built mainly for entertainment, and I have no intention to throw away my X8.
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I wonder how many people willing to buy an entertainment keyboard which is more expensive than G19... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(silencer @ May 9 2009, 08:35 PM)
The price is too darn expensive...and I believe that the function is similar with my current logitech BT desktop mx5000, built mainly for entertainment, and I have no intention to throw away my X8.
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You are wrong bro .......
Function and performance is quite far for the Logitech MX5000 Cordless Desktop compare to 7000 and 8000 Entertainment Series

7000 and 8000 has more stable and high performance 2.4 Ghz Wireless dongle if you dun believe you can go do and compare they are very responsive and good performance as normal laptop keypad.

Likewise, LED Lighting is a great pawn and also the slim design and the rechargeable ability .......

Just the price 7000 Entertainment Series in Malaysia has almost costs around RM800 and 8000 Entertainment Series also costs around RM800~RM900 ....



For someone who wanna try a good performance wireless keyboard, I suggest you to own a Microsoft Wireless Desktop 7000 or a Wireless Keyboard 6000 ..... which gives great performance as normal keyboard but in wireless

Both Wireless Keyboard are in good performance in wireless even we know they are not gaming grade series also these wireless keyboards are in good battery lasting (can lasts around 3 weeks ~ 2 months depends on your daily usage) just without LED Backlight and Macro Buttons


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nice pics! is it better than razer lachesis? interested to get 1..
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err ... if you wanna compare to Lachesis there have each of their advantages

Compare to each of them :

Razer Lachesis
- 4000DPI
- 3G Laser Mouse
- Onboard Memory
- Very large sized mouse, majority of people would prefer it's comfort on RTS game but not-so-comfort on FPS game
- 7 Programmable Buttons (Excluding Left and Right Click)
- Grip Made
- Wired
- Rubberized Mouse Feet

X8 Sidewinder
-4000DPI
- Bluetrack Optical Mouse
- Large Size Mouse
- 5 Programmable Buttons (Excluding Left and Right Click)
- LCD Display Screen
- Instant Macro Record
- Intellipoint Mouse Software
- 3 Dpi button settings
- Wired+Wireless
- Charge and Play
- 3 in 1 Docking Puck
- Instant Gaming File Shortcut Button
- Non-Rubberized Mouse Feet
- Has 2 Spare Mouse Feet

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QUOTE(wingster @ May 9 2009, 10:05 PM)
You are wrong bro .......
Function and performance is quite far for the Logitech MX5000 Cordless Desktop compare to 7000 and 8000 Entertainment Series

7000 and 8000 has more stable and high performance 2.4 Ghz Wireless dongle if you dun believe you can go do and compare they are very responsive and good performance as normal laptop keypad.

Likewise, LED Lighting is a great pawn and also the slim design and the rechargeable ability .......

Just the price 7000 Entertainment Series in Malaysia has almost costs around RM800 and 8000 Entertainment Series also costs around RM800~RM900 ....
For someone who wanna try a good performance wireless keyboard, I suggest you to own a Microsoft Wireless Desktop 7000 or a Wireless Keyboard 6000 ..... which gives great performance as normal keyboard but in wireless

Both Wireless Keyboard are in good performance in wireless even we know they are not gaming grade series also these wireless keyboards are in good battery lasting (can lasts around 3 weeks ~ 2 months depends on your daily usage) just without LED Backlight and Macro Buttons
Wireless Keyboard 6000
The thing is I have never experienced any lag with my current logitech mx5000,even during gaming, and the alkaline battery last for abt 4-5 mnths. By the way, i like one of the x6 fratures, where u can interchange the position of keypad to the left side.....

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hmm really because I'm have refer most of the review of Logitech MX5000 that it has many lagging issue and the LCD problem .... but those review has been 2 years ago due for the new release at that time

Hmm.... maybe ur's has updated the firmware and also the newer version that I heard fixed


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QUOTE(wingster @ May 10 2009, 10:22 PM)
hmm really because I'm have refer most of the review of Logitech MX5000 that it has many lagging issue and the LCD problem .... but those review has been 2 years ago due for the new release at that time

Hmm.... maybe ur's has updated the firmware and also the newer version that I heard fixed
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U r 100% rite abt that....esp with the released of new logitech setpoint, and the build in compatibility support in windows vista. It was pretty haywire when i first bought the device.... mad.gif
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QUOTE(wingster @ May 9 2009, 10:05 PM)
You are wrong bro .......
Function and performance is quite far for the Logitech MX5000 Cordless Desktop compare to 7000 and 8000 Entertainment Series

7000 and 8000 has more stable and high performance 2.4 Ghz Wireless dongle if you dun believe you can go do and compare they are very responsive and good performance as normal laptop keypad.

Likewise, LED Lighting is a great pawn and also the slim design and the rechargeable ability .......

Just the price 7000 Entertainment Series in Malaysia has almost costs around RM800 and 8000 Entertainment Series also costs around RM800~RM900 ....
For someone who wanna try a good performance wireless keyboard, I suggest you to own a Microsoft Wireless Desktop 7000 or a Wireless Keyboard 6000 ..... which gives great performance as normal keyboard but in wireless

Both Wireless Keyboard are in good performance in wireless even we know they are not gaming grade series also these wireless keyboards are in good battery lasting (can lasts around 3 weeks ~ 2 months depends on your daily usage) just without LED Backlight and Macro Buttons


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err ... if you wanna compare to Lachesis there have each of their advantages

Compare to each of them :

Razer Lachesis   
- 4000DPI
- 3G Laser Mouse
- Onboard Memory
- Very large sized mouse, majority of people would prefer it's comfort on RTS game but not-so-comfort on FPS game
- 7 Programmable Buttons (Excluding Left and Right Click)
- Grip Made
- Wired
- Rubberized Mouse Feet

X8 Sidewinder
-4000DPI
- Bluetrack Optical Mouse
- Large Size Mouse
- 5 Programmable Buttons (Excluding Left and Right Click)
- LCD Display Screen
- Instant Macro Record
- Intellipoint Mouse Software
- 3 Dpi button settings
- Wired+Wireless
- Charge and Play
- 3 in 1 Docking Puck
- Instant Gaming File Shortcut Button
- Non-Rubberized Mouse Feet
- Has 2 Spare Mouse Feet
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I think you're comparing 2 mice of different category and price range too. Mainly, the Lachesis is a WIRED mouse, and the X8 is WIRELESS. Either way, let's hope the Mamba will be here soon for real competition. laugh.gif

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@enigmare, if you don't mind why not pinned up the price that you are selling at the first page?
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QUOTE(eternity4av @ May 11 2009, 11:26 AM)
@enigmare, if you don't mind why not pinned up the price that you are selling at the first page?
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I only have a few for sale, just click on my siggy dude. wink.gif


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QUOTE(Enigmare @ May 11 2009, 12:22 PM)
I only have a few for sale, just click on my siggy dude. wink.gif


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arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..i just wasted rm90 in less than a week... cry.gif
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luckily I was RM1X =3 difference but still .... XD anyway

sell 15RM cheaper than kingcom from the first stock he sell .....


Added on May 11, 2009, 1:51 pm
QUOTE(Enigmare @ May 11 2009, 11:06 AM)
I think you're comparing 2 mice of different category and price range too. Mainly, the Lachesis is a WIRED mouse, and the X8 is WIRELESS. Either way, let's hope the Mamba will be here soon for real competition. laugh.gif
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if want to compare mamba ... both of them have similar function just
Mamba is:
-5600dpi
-Onboard Memory
-[b]Lighter Battery than X8

-Rubberized Grip
-Slim Wireless Port
X8 is:
-Bluetrack Optical
-Non-Rubberized
-Intellipoint, NO ON BOARD Memory
-All in one punk, no sepearation

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QUOTE(silencer @ May 11 2009, 01:35 PM)
arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..i just wasted rm90 in less than a week... cry.gif
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laugh.gif The market price IS RM350 dude. Relax. wink.gif


Added on May 11, 2009, 2:01 pm
QUOTE(wingster @ May 11 2009, 01:43 PM)
luckily I was RM1X =3 difference but still .... XD anyway

sell 15RM cheaper than kingcom from the first stock he sell .....


Added on May 11, 2009, 1:51 pm
if want to compare mamba ... both of them have similar function just
Mamba is:
-5600dpi
-Onboard Memory
-[b]Lighter Battery than X8

-Rubberized Grip
-Slim Wireless Port
X8 is:
-Bluetrack Optical
-Non-Rubberized
-Intellipoint, NO ON BOARD Memory
-All in one punk, no sepearation
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laugh.gif The X8 has one advantage - Get a 3200mAh Super-Duty alkaline battery for heavy weight, get a cheapo Tesco battery for light weight. Hey, it's weight adjustable just like the original Sidewinder! laugh.gif

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but the weight compare to Razer Mamba is damn far away. I know because the battery catridge is same as the Logitech G7 .... swap and charge also light but less battery lifetime

just mamba has insane price and X8 has decent price

at costs of rubber and non-rubberize between two of it

wireless charge & go all in one and wireless with light receiver + heavy charger

5600 and 4000

bluetrack and 3.5G Laser





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QUOTE(silencer @ May 11 2009, 01:35 PM)
arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..i just wasted rm90 in less than a week... cry.gif
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thnx for the head-up.... thumbup.gif Life goes on...
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ May 11 2009, 01:58 PM)
laugh.gif The X8 has one advantage - Get a 3200mAh Super-Duty alkaline battery for heavy weight, get a cheapo Tesco battery for light weight. Hey, it's weight adjustable just like the original Sidewinder! laugh.gif
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3200mAh its nimh (rechargeable) battery not alkaline.

And Tesco battery (alkaline) would'nt last long, and if u forgotten that ur using a non-rechargeable battery and u plug-in yer cable-charger.. "KABOOM!".. lol tongue.gif

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Will it be "KABOOM!" so serious o_O .....

well I guess the better case might melt off the whole battery ....

oh yea I discovered the Razer Wireless port =_= is nice look but the port also quite big through ....

yes I disappoint that Razer Wireless port is just slightly small sized than Sidewinder ..... also the cons is cannot play while charge so you need to plug into wireless dock .... for charging and yet they have been receive the battery is pretty fast to run out as I did say before

Oh well still loved my Sidewinder and instead of getting just a-like of Mamba with a same tracking engine as Death Adder ... people will get Death Adder instead of Mamba with that 130 US Dollar price ......

and yet finally the research from YouTube due from the outer sea Mamba users, they take almost 4-5 hours for charging which is a big lose against the sidewinder X8 which only takes 2 hours (I did tested out for 1 and half hour for a full charge, also super long lasting)

Since the first day I charge, I would never charge for my mouse until now ..... o_o



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QUOTE(wingster @ May 11 2009, 09:06 PM)
Will it be "KABOOM!" so serious o_O .....

well I guess the better case might melt off the whole battery ....
It will explode but not like the whole mouse "berkecai" lah.. lol

Imo, the battery will just burst (like capacitors pops) and leaks out into the mouse and make it unusable.

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oh yea I discovered the Razer Wireless port =_= is nice look but the port also quite big through ....

yes I disappoint that Razer Wireless port is just slightly small sized than Sidewinder ..... also the cons is cannot play while charge so you need to plug into wireless dock .... for charging and yet they have been receive the battery is pretty fast to run out as I did say before

Small size meh?.. Sidewinder X8 much smaller and less bulky than Razer Mamba's charging-port.

Razer Mamba oso can "play while u charge" lar..

Razer Mamba actually has 2-ways to charge.

First way its... (u can charge while u play), which its a plug to attach on, like Sidewinder X8 does, but more finicky due the attachment its pretty big and must properly place to get connected (i saw a exhibition on Razer Mamba, even the promoter having problem attaching the charging cable to the mouse.. lmao.. sweat.gif) , unlike Sidewinder X8's magnet plug, its simple design yet extremely easy to attach on the mouse.

Second way of Razer Mamba to charge, its use its charge dock (aka docking station).. just like those digital camera charging dock, as u know that dock its just for show / blingbling, and the dock has 3 compartments/drawers built-in, for u to put some small stuffs into it.

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Oh well still loved my Sidewinder and instead of getting just a-like of Mamba with a same tracking engine as Death Adder ... people will get Death Adder instead of Mamba with that 130 US Dollar price ......

Razer Mamba its not using the same tracking engine as DeathAdder leh..

Razer Mamba its using 'laser', and DeathAdder using 'infrared'.

And abt the high price of Razer Mamba, imo due its "showcase design" aka "charging-dock" to showoff the mouse in a display box way.

QUOTE
and yet finally the research from YouTube due from the outer sea Mamba users, they take almost 4-5 hours for charging which is a big lose against the sidewinder X8 which only takes 2 hours (I did tested out for 1 and half hour for a full charge, also super long lasting)

Since the first day I charge, I would never charge for my mouse until now ..... o_o
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Yea, same here.. So far all the reviews i read abt the charging time and battery life of Razer Mamba been pretty bad, from long charging time to short battery life (first few batches can't even charge the mouse doh.gif).

But one thing Razer Mamba and not much other mice has it, its "upgradeable firmware", so all these problems might be fixed by just upgrade its firmware.

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By think of it.. it might not the case, as Razer Mamba its a laser mouse, so theoretically it uses much more power to power up the mouse hence short battery life (as referred to Logitech G7 which its a wireless laser mouse and short battery life).

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does it can charge while you plug in the USB ....

I heard the people said, while you plug in ... the battery will not be charge isn it? oh well maybe I'm wrong .... Mamba looks cool but I still grab for X8 because I love for full long period of wireless freedom XD

actually many people has tested that the Razer kind of infrared is almost the same as the laser actually, to tell that they still using the same engine ..... unlike Bluetrack

also from the research I saw, the real eating battery is the razer LED light (can switch off on Mamba as I know) and the high DPI settings also the light weight battery shows the short lasting of battery capacity



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QUOTE(wingster @ May 12 2009, 07:50 AM)
does it can charge while you plug in the USB ....

I heard the people said, while you plug in ... the battery will not be charge isn it? oh well maybe I'm wrong .... Mamba looks cool but I still grab for X8 because I love for full long period of wireless freedom XD
It will charge, just like Sidewinder X8 does.. Just that earlier batches having problem charging the battery.

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actually many people  has tested that the Razer kind of infrared is almost the same as the laser actually, to tell that they still using the same engine ..... unlike Bluetrack

Sure boh.. same engine?.. as one using "infrared' and the other using "laser" woh..

Its understandable if u say it tracks as good as 'infrared 3G' tech..

Razer DeathAdder ('1800dpi Infrared 3G')
Razer Mamba ('5600dpi Laser 3.5G').

Actually, alot ppl prefer Razer's Infra-red 3G, as its proven better tracking than laser (compared to most laser mice).

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Abt the LED light, as shld be able to turn off thru software like DeathAdder does.

And battery its light due using those battery pack (lithium ion) like the ones on mobilephones.

Light doesn't means better performance (in addition to the weight of the mouse), its more to personal reference.

Altho, i kinda miss the 1000hz pollingrate of Razer mice.. heh

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Which makes me wonder why Razer stuck back to 3.5G laser in the first place... laugh.gif Is the BlueTrack technology Microsoft patented?? huh.gif
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Maybe the laser engine suites to hit up 5600 DPI ....

Difference of the tracking engine compare to the Death Adder infrared I think... so that they made Mamba since to be more comfort and stylish as their main point for selling

While X8 yeah Sidewinder should learn be more stylish like Razer Mamba but they hit on mid-budget ... actually in US their official selling is 99 USD while they can get the 75 USD price which Mamba couldn't

Comfort+Stylish and Ergonomic looks(improve after Sidewinder =X)

Also .... 5600DPI Laser and 4000DPI Bluetrack ....

well Lasers versus Blue Optical

thats why both hard to be compare... if I have the money I should own both ..... =X
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QUOTE(wingster @ May 12 2009, 06:20 PM)
Maybe the laser engine suites to hit up 5600 DPI ....

Difference of the tracking engine compare to the Death Adder infrared I think... so that they made Mamba since to be more comfort and stylish as their main point for selling

While X8 yeah Sidewinder should learn be more stylish like Razer Mamba but they hit on mid-budget ... actually in US their official selling is 99 USD while they can get the 75 USD price which Mamba couldn't

Comfort+Stylish and Ergonomic looks(improve after Sidewinder =X)

Also .... 5600DPI Laser and 4000DPI Bluetrack ....

well Lasers versus Blue Optical

thats why both hard to be compare... if I have the money I should own both ..... =X
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ May 12 2009, 05:02 PM)
Which makes me wonder why Razer stuck back to 3.5G laser in the first place... laugh.gif Is the BlueTrack technology Microsoft patented?? huh.gif
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Huh?.. what u meant by "stuck back"?..

'Laser 3.5G' its Razer latest technology, theres no other mice has it.

And yes, BlueTrack tech its inhouse developement by Microsoft, if not it will be like Microsoft Habu which has a Razer logo on it.. heh tongue.gif

QUOTE(wingster @ May 12 2009, 06:20 PM)
Maybe the laser engine suites to hit up 5600 DPI ....

Difference of the tracking engine compare to the Death Adder infrared I think... so that they made Mamba since to be more comfort and stylish as their main point for selling

While X8 yeah Sidewinder should learn be more stylish like Razer Mamba but they hit on mid-budget ... actually in US their official selling is 99 USD while they can get the 75 USD price which Mamba couldn't

Comfort+Stylish and Ergonomic looks(improve after Sidewinder =X)

Also .... 5600DPI Laser and 4000DPI Bluetrack ....

well Lasers versus Blue Optical

thats why both hard to be compare... if I have the money I should own both ..... =X
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Luckily they don't follow Razer... siaoz... imo not worth at all, as i mentioned earlier ur paying alot extra for the "display box".. literately... lol

Extra rm100+ its way too much sweat.gif .. rm50 more still can consider... rolleyes.gif

Imo, Sidewinder X8 its the most 'Bang for Buck' wireless/wired mouse, even some places in U.S. selling for just mere us$50bucks!.. shocking.gif

And abt the dpi, imo its one of those "why not" kinda deal, not that useable... theres no one i know uses more than 3000dpi with sensitivity max.

Especially im one of those ppl use very high-sensitivity (i set sensitivity at 20 for CS).

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one question regarding the x8 mouse. If u take out the battery and plug in the usb cable, will it work without the battery on cable?

The x8 bulk is giving me pressure between Gigabyte Ghost, and x8. doh.gif
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ May 12 2009, 05:02 PM)
Which makes me wonder why Razer stuck back to 3.5G laser in the first place... laugh.gif Is the BlueTrack technology Microsoft patented?? huh.gif
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Yup ..the blueTrack technolohy is patented by Ms......>>> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseand...acklanding.mspx
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I just notice this while watching the bluetrack demo video.
I guess 3.5g laser wins.

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but in tracking Blue Optical pawns 3.5G Lasers =P

Maybe it has the same level as the Razer Infrared
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it's one good mouse i can say,just the speed adjust is really suck,fixed 3 speeds to choose cry.gif

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ May 14 2009, 01:03 AM)
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it's one good mouse i can say,just the speed adjust is really suck,fixed 3 speeds to choose cry.gif

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What u mean fixed 3 speeds?.. u can set yer favorite or the selections of dpi u normally use into one of those 3-buttons mah.

Cool carbon mod there.. heh.. why didnt mod yer X8?.. wink.gif

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just can adjust 3 speeds on the buttons....this is the only disadvantage i found on this mouse tongue.gif
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Hey peeps!, my friend just bought her Sidewinder X6 few weeks ago, and she noticed her keys faded!.. blink.gif

Dam.. is it a bad batch or what..

Anyways, to make matter worse, she sent back to the shop for rma.

A few days later, the shop that she bought from said "You can't claim warranty because its just fade keys, as the keyboard still working"... shakehead.gif

Its there such thing?.. i mean few weeks only and the keys faded liaoz.. and yet can't claim warranty?.. wth...

Does anyone know the distro (contact number) or rma department for Sidewinder X6?..

At the same time i wanna find out too, as i myself using one and no keys faded so far.. *cross fingers* sweat.gif

I meant.. its a gaming keyboard... yet so easily fade wan.. rclxub.gif

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, since ur selling it oso, really can't claim warranty for faded keys ah?..

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Call for the Malaysia Microsoft .... asking for the warranty and also the issue's ... call them for sure since it has be a problem when you newly brought it

Remember Customer Rights they not satisfy us we also not satisfy their product also >=(

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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ May 14 2009, 07:03 PM)
Hey peeps!, my friend just bought her Sidewinder X6 few weeks ago, and she noticed her keys faded!..  blink.gif

Dam.. is it a bad batch or what..

Anyways, to make matter worse, she sent back to the shop for rma.

A few days later, the shop that she bought from said "You can't claim warranty because its just fade keys, as the keyboard still working"...  shakehead.gif

Its there such thing?.. i mean few weeks only and the keys faded liaoz.. and yet can't claim warranty?.. wth...

Does anyone know the distro (contact number) or rma department for Sidewinder X6?..

At the same time i wanna find out too, as i myself using one and no keys faded so far.. *cross fingers* sweat.gif

I meant.. its a gaming keyboard... yet so easily fade wan..  rclxub.gif

Enigmare
, since ur selling it oso, really can't claim warranty for faded keys ah?..

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Actually, the sales person is quite right. Faded keys are wear and tear - so long the keyboard is still working, I doubt they'll make an exchange for you. Faded keys are quite normal I guess - it's the way the product is design. Sometimes, some people's fingers have nails which, can scratch off paint..ouch. laugh.gif Those oso u can't blame the seller or Microsoft what...

My X6 hasn't faded at all dude, and it's been a month or so since I've had mine. Maybe ur friend's fingers are toxic? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ May 14 2009, 07:52 PM)
Actually, the sales person is quite right. Faded keys are wear and tear - so long the keyboard is still working, I doubt they'll make an exchange for you. Faded keys are quite normal I guess - it's the way the product is design. Sometimes, some people's fingers have nails which, can scratch off paint..ouch. laugh.gif Those oso u can't blame the seller or Microsoft what...

My X6 hasn't faded at all dude, and it's been a month or so since I've had mine. Maybe ur friend's fingers are toxic? laugh.gif
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err but some unexpected tearing like it tearing it self without a proper reason can claim wad =/



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QUOTE(wingster @ May 14 2009, 07:51 PM)
Call for the Malaysia Microsoft .... asking for the warranty and also the issue's ... call them for sure since it has be a problem when you newly brought it

Remember Customer Rights they not satisfy us we also not satisfy their product also >=(
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I'll ask her to call tomolo, since so late liaoz.

QUOTE(Enigmare @ May 14 2009, 07:52 PM)
Actually, the sales person is quite right. Faded keys are wear and tear - so long the keyboard is still working, I doubt they'll make an exchange for you. Faded keys are quite normal I guess - it's the way the product is design. Sometimes, some people's fingers have nails which, can scratch off paint..ouch. laugh.gif Those oso u can't blame the seller or Microsoft what...

My X6 hasn't faded at all dude, and it's been a month or so since I've had mine. Maybe ur friend's fingers are toxic? laugh.gif
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I understand if the user used it more than few years, but not even a year... sweat.gif

Fyi, Logitech and Razer does replacements for faded keys within warranty period, and Microsoft such big company doesn't?...

QUOTE(wingster @ May 14 2009, 07:55 PM)
err but some unexpected tearing like it tearing it self without a proper reason can claim wad =/
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Yea, the thing its we expect as a "gaming keyboard" shld be more durable than normal keyboard.. yet this happens...

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U sure Razer and Logitech does replacements for faded keys dude? As far as I know, those wear and tear items are not claimable... huh.gif
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ May 15 2009, 10:21 AM)
U sure Razer and Logitech does replacements for faded keys dude? As far as I know, those wear and tear items are not claimable... huh.gif
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certain of tear items are claimable =D .....

even my G9 Mouse can be claim the XL Grip even it has been a little tear off ....



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Faded keys consider as wear and tear and physical damage,i dont think it can be RMA-ed biggrin.gif
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AceCombat, where u get the CF sticker for ur X6 dude? It's damn cool!!
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ May 16 2009, 05:40 PM)
AceCombat, where u get the CF sticker for ur X6 dude? It's damn cool!!
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U can get it from bulk order section... http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...n+fiber+sticker

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I would say depends on the shop u bought from...Some sellers are lazy to claim warranty for u, therefore they will tell u that there is no warranty for faded keys issue...
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Yea another red army here biggrin.gif .......

size smaller? Sidewinder mouse should larger as I think .....
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hello guys, it's me again...

got a feel of both the X8 and X5 today... first impression is that, the X8 feels real nice... my whole hand can cover the mouse nicely, with all my fingers at the comfortable areas...

the X5... well, all feels good except for my little finger, have a feeling of being "misplaced", but generally it's still comfortable...

however, the price of the 2 are worlds apart... SG$134 and SG$69 respectively... frankly, i love the feel on the X8, but the price tag is wat's stopping me... i really wonder if the extra SG$65 is justified... can someone enlighten me???
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Goodness, why are the prices in Singing Dollars? Where did u check them out??
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Goodness, why are the prices in Singing Dollars? Where did u check them out??
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that's becuz i live in Singapore...

prices are from the shop called "Challenger Superstore"... those are member prices...

regular prices are SG$139 and SG$79 respectively...

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Lol... That's cheap. Have they got the Mamba though?? Wonder when it'll arrive in Malaysia...

P.S. Anyone interested in buying an X5??
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yeah, Mamba is avaliale as well... SG$199... shocking.gif
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SGD$199?! ohmy.gif Crazy, I think the X8 is more worth it for a BlueTrack Wireless mouse..
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ May 17 2009, 11:18 PM)
Lol... That's cheap. Have they got the Mamba though?? Wonder when it'll arrive in Malaysia...

P.S. Anyone interested in buying an X5??
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X5 will only attract buyers when u reveal the price

QUOTE(Enigmare @ May 17 2009, 11:24 PM)
SGD$199?! ohmy.gif Crazy, I think the X8 is more worth it for a BlueTrack Wireless mouse..
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Who knows... some of us needs the mouse to work on every type of surface, aka u won't know what kind of surface the table is when ur using the mouse.
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QUOTE(riku2replica @ May 18 2009, 01:27 AM)
X5 will only attract buyers when u reveal the price
Who knows... some of us needs the mouse to work on every type of surface, aka u won't know what kind of surface the table is when ur using the mouse.
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one question regarding the x8 mouse. If u take out the battery and plug in the usb cable, will it work without the battery on cable?
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X8 will work even without the battery as long as the cable is attached onto the mouse.... The onli thing u need to do after attaching that cable is to turn on the power..... laugh.gif

So, now everyone is buying this mouse already.... At 1st, everyone is doubting me about my opinions on this mouse and now everyone has it.... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif


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X5 will only attract buyers when u reveal the price
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the X8 sure feels nice, but it's also so much more expensive...
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Still not many X8 owners for now I think, cuz so far there's like 5 or 6 in this thread only.. laugh.gif
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still looking for my x6 keyboard..
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still looking for my x6 keyboard..
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get someone to bundle wif urs. I doubt if enigma wants to sell separately.
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juz recived a flyer from Singapore Post...

they are selling RA3 Premier Edition with a few other goodies for a whopping SG$150...

1 of the goodies is Sidewinder X6 RA3 Edition... lust.gif drool.gif

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then u take the RA3 i take the x6.
ok ?
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QUOTE(wen9x88 @ May 18 2009, 10:04 PM)
then u take the RA3 i take the x6.
ok ?
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How's he supposed to take the RA3? The RA3 is the desing isn't it?? laugh.gif
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hey y'all,

wow...its been awhile since i've been here...good to see ppl are talking serious matters on the x8...
but i'm sad...
wanna know why??....
whatever happened to the Original Sidewinder mouse owners????!!???!!!??....is there anybody else out there that have the Sidewinder mouse like i have??? cry.gif
seems like its either the x5 or the x8....hhmm...could it be that my mouse has been outsourced????!!!! hmm.gif
btw...the RA3 decals on the x6KB looks fantastic...but its already been out for quite sometime now..just that last time you would have to go into RA3's main website to know that their are selling these limited editions(correct me if i'm wrong)...but the now it seems like they are planing to sell it to the masses....

on a curious note....where did AceCombat got his CF decals??!!??...custom made??? cool2.gif
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QUOTE(DjK @ May 19 2009, 12:25 PM)
hey y'all,

wow...its been awhile since i've been here...good to see ppl are talking serious matters on the x8...
but i'm sad...
wanna know why??....
whatever happened to the Original Sidewinder mouse owners????!!???!!!??....is there anybody else out there that have the Sidewinder mouse like i have??? cry.gif
seems like its either the x5 or the x8....hhmm...could it be that my mouse has been outsourced????!!!! hmm.gif
btw...the RA3 decals on the x6KB looks fantastic...but its already been out for quite sometime now..just that last time you would have to go into RA3's main website to know that their are selling these limited editions(correct me if i'm wrong)...but the now it seems like they are planing to sell it to the masses....

on a curious note....where did AceCombat got his CF decals??!!??...custom made??? cool2.gif
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No la, the RA3 decals not really nice, AceCombat's CF nicer... brows.gif He got it from Bulk Orders, some sticker bulk, got link - just check a few posts back. wink.gif I doubt many are actually buying SideWinder, surely a lot are brand blinded by Razer.. laugh.gif
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Hi guys, thinking about buying X5 or X8 or even G7. Apart from the price which do you think is better? i am more concerning on the performance and feel rather than the programmable macro. Any current user can share their experience. thank you notworthy.gif
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X8 Rules! BlueTrack Rules! Charge On The Fly Rules! LCD Display Rules!

Does that answer your question boon.fong? laugh.gif
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hi guys, it's me again...

after some consideration, i decide to get a X5 instead... not really a hardcore gamer, plus i'll use it only on mouse pad, and going to live in university residence (so dun want the mouse to attract too much attention, although the shape of X5 may do so... laugh.gif)

now i found a deal for SG$58... worth it rit???
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enigmare, mind to compare ur x8 with ur mamba?
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ May 19 2009, 01:05 PM)
X8 Rules! BlueTrack Rules! Charge On The Fly Rules! LCD Display Rules!

Does that answer your question boon.fong? laugh.gif
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Looks at the feedback for logitech g15. Some ppl DO complain why do u need a lcd display, while ur not even lookin' at it so frequent. doh.gif

No offense but just some critics from ppl who find the lcd display useless.
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ May 19 2009, 12:30 PM)
No la, the RA3 decals not really nice, AceCombat's CF nicer... brows.gif He got it from Bulk Orders, some sticker bulk, got link - just check a few posts back. wink.gif I doubt many are actually buying SideWinder, surely a lot are brand blinded by Razer.. laugh.gif
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oooohhhhhh...thx for the info...but then i do hope sidewinder will be a good choice for alot of ppl coz its still better in terms of what you pay for wat you get... nod.gif

QUOTE(boon.fong @ May 19 2009, 12:54 PM)
Hi guys, thinking about buying X5 or X8 or even G7. Apart from the price which do you think is better? i am more concerning on the performance and feel rather than the programmable macro. Any current user can share their experience. thank you  notworthy.gif
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ermm...G7 got alot of bad battery reviews(spoils/faulty/etc)...x5 and x8 are great with 2000dpi/4000dpi(respectively) and macro function...x5 doesn't have weights but x8 does...x8 has a good BlueTrack tracking sensor that works well and so far no problems with reviews...x5=wired, x8=wireless OR wired(in wired mode, it can work with or without battery)...price wise...x5 is cheaper than x8...but there is an underdog that ppl need to realize and not forget the Sidewinder Mouse (promoting here tongue.gif )...its not x5 or x8..its the original sidewinder mouse that came out in year 2008...go check it out...i bet the price is gonna be attractive too... brows.gif (i'm a proud owner of 1 ph34r.gif )

QUOTE(riku2replica @ May 19 2009, 05:24 PM)
Looks at the feedback for logitech g15. Some ppl DO complain why do u need a lcd display, while ur not even lookin' at it so frequent. doh.gif

No offense but just some critics from ppl who find the lcd display useless.
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ermm...the LCD is because the mouse has the ability to store functions within it.....the LCD actually shows/helps the user to be notify whether they are on the right dpi and give visual feedback when making a macro...so its totally depends on the user...besides...who would complain that a cheaper sidewinder mouse WITH the LCD compared to the razers and SS's (which both doesn't have the LCD but with almost same specs)...just compare the Mamba and X8 and you'll know what i mean...(be sure that you would have to be a neutral towards both brands to compare...otherwise...you wouldn't have the same views as the majority of ppl have)
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QUOTE(riku2replica @ May 19 2009, 05:24 PM)
Looks at the feedback for logitech g15. Some ppl DO complain why do u need a lcd display, while ur not even lookin' at it so frequent. doh.gif

No offense but just some critics from ppl who find the lcd display useless.
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True in a way, when you really "FOCUS" battling, frankly speaking, for me, I got no time to stare at that little LCD screen.... but when not playing games...look at the keyboard.....overall it looks quite matching... biggrin.gif and stylish in a way...especially it cost me so much $$$ to owned it...

Its all about individual preferences lah...anyway
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QUOTE(DjK @ May 19 2009, 09:36 PM)
ermm...G7 got alot of bad battery reviews(spoils/faulty/etc)...x5 and x8 are great with 2000dpi/4000dpi(respectively) and macro function...x5 doesn't have weights but x8 does...x8 has a good BlueTrack tracking sensor that works well and so far no problems with reviews...x5=wired, x8=wireless OR wired(in wired mode, it can work with or without battery)...price wise...x5 is cheaper than x8...but there is an underdog that ppl need to realize and not forget the Sidewinder Mouse (promoting here tongue.gif )...its not x5 or x8..its the original sidewinder mouse that came out in year 2008...go check it out...i bet the price is gonna be attractive too... brows.gif (i'm a proud owner of 1 ph34r.gif )
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U sure, the sidewinder x8 can work in wired mode without battery? I think i might be poisoned. doh.gif
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U sure, the sidewinder x8 can work in wired mode without battery? I think i might be poisoned. doh.gif
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the spoiler below shows a post made by Aura just a a page back... brows.gif ...he is one of the first x8 owners here...anyway..it makes sense too that as long as the mouse is wired and current flowing, it's sure to work... flex.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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QUOTE(DjK @ May 20 2009, 01:37 AM)
the spoiler below shows a post made by Aura just a a page back... brows.gif ...he is one of the first x8 owners here...anyway..it makes sense too that as long as the mouse is wired and current flowing, it's sure to work... flex.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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But still, sidewinder x8 bulk is rm30 more than gigabyte ghost mouse. One last, one bluetrack. Both 4000dpi. One wired, one flexible.
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QUOTE(riku2replica @ May 20 2009, 01:45 AM)
But still, sidewinder x8 bulk is rm30 more than gigabyte ghost mouse. One last, one bluetrack. Both 4000dpi. One wired, one flexible.
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depends on your taste entirely...why not look for the perks that they have(packages/other stuff that comes with the mouse)...i hope that would help you decide...i've seen the ghost gaming mouse...kinda liked it..but then i'm not looking at that range..thats why the 1st gen sidewinder is perfect for me...
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laugh.gif I think if the X8 had adjustable weights, it'll be perfect for you right? wink.gif
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QUOTE(DjK @ May 19 2009, 09:36 PM)
ermm...G7 got alot of bad battery reviews(spoils/faulty/etc)...x5 and x8 are great with 2000dpi/4000dpi(respectively) and macro function...x5 doesn't have weights but x8 does...x8 has a good BlueTrack tracking sensor that works well and so far no problems with reviews...x5=wired, x8=wireless OR wired(in wired mode, it can work with or without battery)...price wise...x5 is cheaper than x8...but there is an underdog that ppl need to realize and not forget the Sidewinder Mouse (promoting here tongue.gif )...its not x5 or x8..its the original sidewinder mouse that came out in year 2008...go check it out...i bet the price is gonna be attractive too... brows.gif (i'm a proud owner of 1 ph34r.gif )
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Hi DJK, yea i did notice the original sidewinder but the price is still expensive at around 269 - 299, at that price i would prefer to buy x8...but how is the performance on the ori sidewinder

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QUOTE(DjK @ May 19 2009, 09:36 PM)
x5 doesn't have weights but x8 does...
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I'm not sure about the X5 but the X8 certainly doesn't hav weights.... sweat.gif

QUOTE(riku2replica @ May 20 2009, 01:26 AM)
U sure, the sidewinder x8 can work in wired mode without battery? I think i might be poisoned. doh.gif
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Yes... Already confirmed by me.... Tested....
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hey guys, just want to spread the news, sidewinder's competitors is here, razer mamba, priced at srp rm449, only 20 units! no offense ya
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QUOTE(riku2replica @ May 20 2009, 01:26 AM)
U sure, the sidewinder x8 can work in wired mode without battery? I think i might be poisoned. doh.gif
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Tested works well and it makes the mouse more light ..... very nice =)


Added on May 20, 2009, 11:46 am
QUOTE(boon.fong @ May 20 2009, 10:24 AM)
Hi DJK, yea i did notice the original sidewinder but the price is still expensive at around 269 - 299, at that price i would prefer to buy x8...but how is the performance on the ori sidewinder
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Well here's the comparison:

Original
-Large Mouse Feet
-Adjustable Weight
-2000dpi
-Laser Engine

X8
-Small Mouse Feet
-Wired or Wireless
-4000dpi
-Bluetrack Optical Engine

so I you to decide which one is your favor .... but to tell feature X8 sure pawns off =3

In addition, to tell you that the 3 on-the-fly dpi buttons is actually has the offensive, first you did realize that 3 buttons is instant push. Compare to others brand mouse like Razers, Logitech gaming mouse, you need to have to press up and down (since they only have 2 buttons) for your dpi changes. For Sidewinder's one touch you can choose the right dpi you want thats not only will avoid the accident push for the wrong dpi also you can just pressing on the button in quick touch than pressing up and down for a correct dpi sensors.

LCD might be useless for someone but it's great advantage is able for you to check out

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Ok, i sort off timed my X8 battery life and the total its abt 69hrs (stop timed it when it starts blinking amber color).

Btw, does anyone know does X8 has sleep or idle mode?.. i tried googled abt it, didn't find anything abt it.

QUOTE(astria @ May 18 2009, 09:55 PM)
juz recived a flyer from Singapore Post...

they are selling RA3 Premier Edition with a few other goodies for a whopping SG$150...

1 of the goodies is Sidewinder X6 RA3 Edition... lust.gif drool.gif
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U just received... a flyer...

Err.. dude, that Sidewinder X6 RA3 Edition was out since last year (October 2008)..

QUOTE(eternity4av @ May 20 2009, 11:32 AM)
hey guys, just want to spread the news, sidewinder's competitors is here, razer mamba, priced at srp rm449, only 20 units! no offense ya
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Do banned this person for unrelated post to the topic/thread!..

HEh.. tongue.gif

Anyways, by telling the Mamba's price here, u practically telling ppl here to get Sidewinder X8 instead.. whistling.gif

Cheers doh.gif

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@TomatomanzSeedlezz, wow you're smart, actually i really looking forward to see side by side comparison in between x8 and mamba,
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@TomatomanzSeedlezz, wow you're smart, actually i really looking forward to see  side by side comparison in between x8 and mamba,
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Err.. i do hope yer not being sarcastic.. sweat.gif

Anyways, so far i saw this the only website reviewed on both mice.

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2009/04/razer_ma...e_review-2.html

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for hardcore gaming .... I tried can lasts for 1 days ++ (up to 20 hours) long .....
tested by playing COD4 and COD5 for a whole day XD
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Hi DJK, yea i did notice the original sidewinder but the price is still expensive at around 269 - 299, at that price i would prefer to buy x8...but how is the performance on the ori sidewinder
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hey,
ermmm...i'm kinda surprise the fact that its that expensive...i'm currently in the UK right now and i bought my OEM version of the ori sidewinder mouse here for 20pounds...so i'm not sure how much is the price back in malaysia....anyway...
1st gen sidewinder:
-2000dpi
-same shape as x5
-the two button on the side are silver coloured rather than the black colour(x5)
-shape almost the same as x5 but bigger(by a few milimetres, not noticeable)
-got weigths(3 10g and 1 5g weights)
-wired (it maybe a plus or a minus factor depending on preference)

hope that clears up abit thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(DjK @ May 21 2009, 04:52 AM)
hey,
ermmm...i'm kinda surprise the fact that its that expensive...i'm currently in the UK right now and i bought my OEM version of the ori sidewinder mouse here for 20pounds...so i'm not sure how much is the price back in malaysia....anyway...
1st gen sidewinder:
-2000dpi
-same shape as x5
-the two button on the side are silver coloured rather than the black colour(x5)
-shape almost the same as x5 but bigger(by a few milimetres, not noticeable)
-got weigths(3 10g and 1 5g weights)
-wired (it maybe a plus or a minus factor depending on preference)

hope that clears up abit  thumbup.gif
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20Pounds new or used set dude? 20pounds is a little too cheap.. laugh.gif
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hmm.gif can X5 owner join the club???
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Lol, why not? You finally bought your X5 eh? brows.gif
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can any x8 user comment on the wireless range of x8
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...pretty long.... you go outside your house and your receiver still inside your house still can be fast response erm not sure for that almost 20m long ....
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ May 21 2009, 06:31 PM)
Lol, why not? You finally bought your X5 eh? brows.gif
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went to feel both X8 and X5 again before buying, imo X5 is good enuf for me...
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welcome to the club, astria rclxms.gif

mind posting pictars?? or make reviews?? smile.gif
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QUOTE(DjK @ May 21 2009, 10:39 PM)
welcome to the club, astria rclxms.gif

mind posting pictars?? or make reviews?? smile.gif
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will do so when my new laptop come... laugh.gif

now only using at home with a non-gaming rig...
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Do take nice pictures yea? And do a little personal review for us if u can. Then I'll pin it up to the first page. wink.gif
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Errr.....sorry to ask.
why gaming is more power consumption than normal surfing for X8?
is it really more power consuming when gaming?
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i guess it's got to do with the increased movement and button clicking when gaming...
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And while gaming you're using macros here and there - switching dpi here and there. Of course it consumes more power. laugh.gif
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But charging speed is pretty satisfied .... just get low battery and then 1 hour charge can use up to 10 hours long full hardcore gaming again ...

Well as for Sidewinder, I really like the fell and the big metal scroll is very nice =D .... but I almost stick on wireless mice (expect my G9 which is onboard ability mouse)

Still wonder will Microsoft will introduce the wireless mouse which is
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Logitech G7 which can battery swap + uses with dongle which gives portable + now the charge and play wired mode combination ....

like this is almost the perfect portable gaming already ..... but this may cost much of it ... I guess

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If only Logitech made their new G9x wireless.. laugh.gif Wonder when Microsoft will release a revised X8 which reads 5600dpi. tongue.gif
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somedays .... but since they not aim for rushing to high dpi instead of tracking technology
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i love my x6..will accompany it with X series mouse in near future
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hehe, just got my x6 today. so far so good, but .....
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but?! key fade? or what else tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wingster @ May 26 2009, 09:46 PM)
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Yeah, so some fella claims. I've been using mine for quite awhile, and I've yet to experience key fading... tongue.gif Maybe there are "pirated" X6es on the market??
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no lah. just that the keys are too soft, i mean almost like lappie tacttile feel. so, not really suits my gaming taste.
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ya i know just like laptop keypad ... slim and soft .... but is nice since I did test on the Shop ....

Thats why I still loved my G15v2 .... even through it has less macro ... =.=
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the X3 look like a normal mice for me...but who cares, if the performance is good..
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looks like an alternative for budget gaming since the performance are not bad =) but sadly .... only has 1 side button ..... =.=
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Nope, it has 2 side buttons dude - one on each side. And it's damn cheap for 2000DPI.. tongue.gif Actually, I dare say that holding the X3 felt better than gripping my X8.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ May 26 2009, 11:42 PM)
Yeah, so some fella claims. I've been using mine for quite awhile, and I've yet to experience key fading... tongue.gif Maybe there are "pirated" X6es on the market??
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First of all, are u a hardcore gamer?..

Typing alot and gaming alot thats 2 different things.

QUOTE(Enigmare @ May 28 2009, 09:27 AM)
Nope, it has 2 side buttons dude - one on each side. And it's damn cheap for 2000DPI.. tongue.gif Actually, I dare say that holding the X3 felt better than gripping my X8.. laugh.gif
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Imo, the 2-side buttons, one for each side its more basically 'one for right-handed' and the other button for 'left-handed' user as its a ambidextrous mouse.

X3...Dam cheap?.. thats... over-advertised liaoz.. lol.. have u seen OCZ Behemoth Laser Gaming Mouse?.. 3200dpi, adjustable weights, dual-lasers, etc and cost abt rm100 nia.

X3, good for smaller hands since Xseries has been for big hands.. or shld i say.. huge hands.. lol

Btw, its looks more like X3 a 'claw-grip' mouse rather than 'palm-grip' mouse.

Cheers smile.gif

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laugh.gif You a OCZ supporter or Microsoft Sidewinder Supporter? Besides, X3's price plus 3 years warranty is seriously a bargain.. tongue.gif IMHO, I'd prefer X3's design over the OCZ Behemoth's anytime.. tongue.gif

I'm beginning to experience scratches on my X8 feet.. cry.gif Need to buy a mouse surface soon.. tongue.gif


Added on May 28, 2009, 5:20 pmAnd here's another - the X5:

Sidewinder X5 Mouse:

Pros
-Similar Macros with X8.
-Stealthy design.
-Lightweight.
-Side-buttons come in handy.

Cons
-Packaging could've been nicer.
-Certain bits feel plasticky.
-Size may not fit all - like the X8. rclxub.gif

user posted image
^Fresh outta the shipment.

user posted image
^Behold - the X5.

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^Package contents of the X5.

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^Sharp edged - might cut fingers.

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^DPI switches, a Sidewinder Classic.

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^A top shot of the X5.

Above all, I'd stick with X8 for its functions, BUT for comfort, you guys would be surprised - I found the X3 most comfortable to use with. Maybe it's my style of gripping my tikus?? laugh.gif



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haha not only u im also my mouse feet scratch ..... like wau 0.0
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Hey, I'm looking for a nice mouse pad - so far got the Razer Destructor and the Barracuda Juggernaut in mind - which is good for X8s?
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LoL Razer .... dunno .... I think both of them also good just familiar more with Destructor =3
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I don't think Microsoft is that established yet - their Sidewinder Gaming stuff hasn't covered fan accessories (like bags and caps) and also more importantly - gaming surfaces... laugh.gif
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Microsoft mainly production not focusing on gaming industry, of course they don't have fan accessories (like bag or cap)..
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laugh.gif I suppose if they are resurrecting the Sidewinder series right, they are indicating that they're re-entering the gaming market. wink.gif
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oh well.. If MS comes out with new mouse pad.. One more competitor entering the gaming industry for mouse surface.. =/
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i heard x8 got tracking problem? true or false?

im using qck
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QUOTE(lightonokira @ Jun 1 2009, 02:57 AM)
i heard x8 got tracking problem? true or false?

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Tracking problem??? I've no tracking problem at all right now... tongue.gif Tried on multiple surfaces and still no problem. Where and what exactly did u hear??
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ May 28 2009, 02:44 PM)
laugh.gif You a OCZ supporter or Microsoft Sidewinder Supporter? Besides, X3's price plus 3 years warranty is seriously a bargain.. tongue.gif IMHO, I'd prefer X3's design over the OCZ Behemoth's anytime.. tongue.gif
lol.. i don't even have OCZ products.

Im just saying.. the way you say "dam cheap" its more like promoting yer sales, which its kinda rules ur breaking here..

"4) Advertising of personal sales is not allowed."



QUOTE(lightonokira @ Jun 1 2009, 02:57 AM)
i heard x8 got tracking problem? true or false?

im using qck
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Where did u hear that from?... so far i haven't hear anything abt it... do post yer source, as i want to know too.

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is the sidewinder x8 in full black? cause i saw some parts are like greyish
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i love the auto cruise Function on the sidewinder x6, but too bad it doesn't have ghosting effect like razerkeyboards, so that i can keep the Alt on auto cruise and use other keys to execute commands....
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QUOTE(choyster @ Jun 1 2009, 10:15 PM)
is the sidewinder x8 in full black? cause i saw some parts are like greyish
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color is not like piano black, is almost like grey black .....





@Enigmare

So far the tracking problem only appears on very fine papers, on most of the gaming mouse surface are almost no problem to me =P

Tested it wont track properly on layout pad and super fine papers / super fine white surface only .....

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m X6 & X3 work totally fine!
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laugh.gif The X8 is partially purplish grey... Not black exactly. tongue.gif
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Well guys ... I feel weird about the X8 ...

You know X8 Scroll or even the original are not smooth while you get it in new but

after a month on spamming scroll, my scroll become super smooth + precision than G9 especially a drag down scroll it did smooth and precise ... glad to see the "hidden" ability ..... ><

well for metal scroll I think the sliping issue still not a yet because the scroll ring they designed with many needly texture for preventing slip out =) which is another upside
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hi guys,,any method how to clean dirt or remove hair inside the x6 keyboard??aish..
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QUOTE(BigSaver @ Jun 3 2009, 09:47 PM)
hi guys,,any method how to clean dirt or remove hair inside the x6 keyboard??aish..
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cyber clean for sure...

already get my X8 today....for 1st time used it feel a bit weird, but ill get use with it...
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QUOTE(masashi89 @ Jun 4 2009, 06:56 AM)
cyber clean for sure...

already get my X8 today....for 1st time used it feel a bit weird, but ill get use with it...
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cyber clean? blink.gif
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Did you just say your scroll is super-smooth? You do know the G9's scroll is the non-stop rolling one right? Eg. Cruise scroll.. Mine's still stiff... cry.gif
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QUOTE(BigSaver @ Jun 3 2009, 09:47 PM)
hi guys,,any method how to clean dirt or remove hair inside the x6 keyboard??aish..
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turn it around.... then shake shake shake......then take paint brish and stick the brush in between the keys and try to get as much dust/hair out... then turn around again and shake shake shake again....then paint brush again... then shake again.... do as many times as u want...


once u done all that....cyberclean biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ Jun 4 2009, 02:07 PM)
Did you just say your scroll is super-smooth? You do know the G9's scroll is the non-stop rolling one right? Eg. Cruise scroll.. Mine's still stiff... cry.gif
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G9 well non-stop rolling but it comes the problem which the rolling but scroll delay ....

G9 in non-stop mode will not show very "smooth" when scroll down, honestly even the micro wheel only allows u to scroll down automatically for a certain time by roll it down but when you try to use it as like normal scroll and beg for smooth a like sorry it don't

Actually I do apologize that I'm using "Super Smooth" in X8 .... the scroll did smooth while I drag the scroll down, it gives a nicely feel in my finger =)
but compare to default scroll down still a little hard, however still improve =)

while G9 is getting opposite .... my microwheel since shorten down the auto rolling period =_= but still not much used on that =P

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Actually I do apologize that I'm using "Super Smooth" in X8 .... the scroll did smooth while I drag the scroll down, it gives a nicely feel in my finger =)
but compare to default scroll down still a little hard, however still improve =)


What are you talking about?? laugh.gif Anyway - the fact is the scroll wheel on the X8 is very solid - and very clicky... I didn't really fancy it at first, but it did get smooth.

Update: Intellitype and Intellipoint (aka the software that works with your sidewinders) has a new version - 7.0 - which is mainly released for Windows 7 users. thumbup.gif
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guys..i wanna ask..how long this rechargeable battery last long?

i mean if not in gaming(its said that it will last long for 30Hour in gaming right?)...just surfing the net or use Auto Cad....

and can u guys pls recommend me other rechargeable battery?
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Why do you bother changing?? The supplied GP one should be good enough what... laugh.gif For mine - I've been using for a week straight then only need to charge. Of course - I seldom game. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ Jun 5 2009, 07:45 PM)
Why do you bother changing?? The supplied GP one should be good enough what... laugh.gif For mine - I've been using for a week straight then only need to charge. Of course - I seldom game. tongue.gif
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wow a week str8..

normally how long could it take to fully charged?
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ Jun 5 2009, 03:15 PM)
What are you talking about?? laugh.gif Anyway - the fact is the scroll wheel on the X8 is very solid - and very clicky... I didn't really fancy it at first, but it did get smooth.

Update: Intellitype and Intellipoint (aka the software that works with your sidewinders) has a new version - 7.0 - which is mainly released for Windows 7 users. thumbup.gif
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I mean like u hold your scroll and do a scroll drag (like pull ur scroll X_X sorry for my English explanation) .....

I always do standby my finger for a scroll drag while switching weapon in any FPS games =)


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QUOTE(masashi89 @ Jun 5 2009, 09:19 PM)
wow a week str8..

normally how long could it take to fully charged?
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50% Charge 30 min ~ 1 Hour for 5 hours hardcore and 12 hours normal gameplay or web surfing (depends how u use ur mouse)
100% Charge 2 hours .... 10++ hours hardcore and 3-week gameplay or web surfing (depends how u use ur mouse)

Hardcore means that u massive using the dpi changes, macro, record macro function also keep turning ur mouse around =)

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so the LCD will not indicate about the battery already full charge?

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QUOTE(masashi89 @ Jun 6 2009, 03:03 PM)
so the LCD will not indicate about the battery already full charge?
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Charing - LCD Appear the Battery is in charge and LED Lights gets blinking
Full Charge - LCD Appear the Battery is in FULL CHARGE and the LED Lights at the back will stop blinking
Low Battery - LCD Appear a warning sign of Battery in Low and the LED Lights at the back will turn amber with blinking.
Critical Low Battery (Appear 1%~5% Battery Life) - LCD Appear a warning sign and LED Lights Amber also but it blinking together with the LCD screen and it blinks faster than Low Battery

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QUOTE(wingster @ Jun 6 2009, 08:29 PM)
Charing - LCD Appear the Battery is in charge and LED Lights gets blinking
Full Charge - LCD Appear the Battery is in FULL CHARGE and the LED Lights at the back will stop blinking
Low Battery - LCD Appear a warning sign of Battery in Low and the LED Lights at the back will turn amber with blinking.
Critical Low Battery (Appear 1%~5% Battery Life) - LCD Appear a warning sign and LED Lights Amber also but it blinking together with the LCD screen and it blinks faster than Low Battery
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k thanks alot...
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Has anyone tried using a different rechargeable battery yet? Like Energizer or something similar..
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not yet .... maybe a (still think that) good quality rechargeable battery can prolong the lifetime or maybe is the same tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ Jun 1 2009, 12:35 PM)
Tracking problem??? I've no tracking problem at all right now... tongue.gif Tried on multiple surfaces and still no problem. Where and what exactly did u hear??
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IMO for most of the laser mouse, regardless of whatever mousing surface
tracking issue isn't noticeable unless you're a very high sensitivity user
like me, utilizing 4200dpi, I can notice if the mouse movement is "jumpty"
or "lost track" for just a very short moment

I like the "blue-ray" very much
but doubt if the tech does help to the tracking
Never thought anything than laser engine used can manage that
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im kinda feelin a bit lag with my X8...is it wireless internet connection interference?
or tracking problem?urm...
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Yea, i really like the 'metal scroll' of Sidewinder X8 too.. feels very solid esp. if u aircon room, can feel the coolness of it.. heh wink.gif

QUOTE(JasonJenn @ Jun 2 2009, 05:09 PM)
i love the auto cruise Function on the sidewinder x6, but too bad it doesn't have ghosting effect like razerkeyboards, so that i can keep the Alt on auto cruise and use other keys to execute commands....
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Same like, love that 'AutoCruise' feature, i use it for mmo games like GuildWars which i need to travel a long distance biggrin.gif

And great for games needed to crouch most of the time like Left4Dead thumbup.gif

QUOTE(wingster @ Jun 6 2009, 12:35 PM)
50% Charge 30 min ~ 1 Hour for 5 hours hardcore  and 12 hours normal gameplay or web surfing (depends how u use ur mouse)
100% Charge 2 hours .... 10++ hours hardcore and 3-week gameplay or web surfing (depends how u use ur mouse)

Hardcore means that u massive using the dpi changes, macro, record macro function also keep turning ur mouse around =)
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I considered myself pretty hardcore gamer.

So far i tested :-

If i switch off Sidewinder X8 when not in use, and switch it on only if im using, the total time before it the light starting blinking = total battery time = +-70hrs.

If i leave it on all the time = total battery time = 3.5 days.

QUOTE(wingster @ Jun 6 2009, 08:29 PM)
Charing - LCD Appear the Battery is in charge and LED Lights gets blinking
Full Charge - LCD Appear the Battery is in FULL CHARGE and the LED Lights at the back will stop blinking
Low Battery - LCD Appear a warning sign of Battery in Low and the LED Lights at the back will turn amber with blinking.
Critical Low Battery (Appear 1%~5% Battery Life) - LCD Appear a warning sign and LED Lights Amber also but it blinking together with the LCD screen and it blinks faster than Low Battery
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Nice findings there.

I was hoping they add percentage of the battery life... oh well.. tongue.gif

Cheers biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(masashi89 @ Jun 8 2009, 07:12 PM)
im kinda feelin a bit lag with my X8...is it wireless internet connection interference?
or tracking problem?urm...
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lag? never seen the problem lag on this mouse maybe is ur computer not run well or etc. =/
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QUOTE(wingster @ Jun 9 2009, 03:49 PM)
lag? never seen the problem lag on this mouse maybe is ur computer not run well or etc. =/
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yea..maybe...just feeling a bit lag...now all okay...
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ask Enigmare since he got sells the X5.

But from the feedback, it since to be a comfort of non-rubberized gaming mouse =3

-2000dpi
-HD Laser Tracking
-Top + Bottom buttons
-Light in weight =)


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the surface is made same with the X8 right? what surface isit
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Hi, I am just wondering with the X6 keyboard, does it have the lock 'window' button feature like tat in the logitech G15?
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QUOTE(KenDiriwan @ Jun 10 2009, 06:44 PM)
the surface is made same with the X8 right? what surface isit
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surface? not clear what u are saying

but if u talking about the mouse structure surface then I can said X5 seems to be much more comfort than X8 because it better mouse feet also light and ergonomic feel quite nice (as better as X8 but smaller sized) + wheel is made with rubberized grip =3

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Hi, I am just wondering with the X6 keyboard, does it have the lock 'window' button feature like tat in the logitech G15?
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Yes, Sidewinder X6 can "disable windows key" wink.gif

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I'll think X6 :3...i not sure if Lycosa is the 1 that has some issue previously...imo though >_<
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I just bought a x6. just one minor complaint is that the armrest is kinda short for my big hands.. wish it would be longer, other than that its good
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woo congrat

looks like more sidewinder user coming in .....

but also hope microsoft produce more nice gaming product of sidewinders =3
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Hi guys,

I read through some reviews and found that the sidewinder x6 is very noisy and the keys become unresponsive after sometimes? Apart from that some ppl find that [Ctrl] + W + R cannot be pressed together? In games such as TF2 or CoD4 they cant reload when crouching and moving forward... Anyone experience any of these?

I wanna knw all the facts before getting myself a keyboard... Thanks...
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don't have any issues with fps o_O...buttons noise are quite normal (previously was using Prodikey) so far very responsive =.="...nv fail me XD...unless press wrong buttons tongue.gifi got mine cheaper xD...don't really bother much but glad i got it :3
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QUOTE(Lacus @ Jun 14 2009, 10:30 PM)
don't have any issues with fps o_O...buttons noise are quite normal (previously was using Prodikey) so far very responsive =.="...nv fail me XD...unless press wrong buttons tongue.gifi got mine cheaper xD...don't really bother much but glad i got it :3
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Thanks... Any other user facing this problem?
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getting my sidewinder x6 tomorro,i'll inform you if i get the same problem you facing
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erm, is there anyone selling new x6 for rm 225 ready stock? because i need to send my razer lycosa mirror for rma, and i need a replacement as soon as possible as i hardly get back to kl, because i was studying elsewhere, only by this week, please do reply, thanks in advance
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where has sell sidewinder x8 mouse? i tried find lowyat plaza no found.
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if i not mistaken, i think ts is selling it as well.
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QUOTE(daruma @ Jun 15 2009, 11:21 AM)
where has sell sidewinder x8 mouse? i tried find lowyat plaza no found.
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Oh wait, you're talking about the wired one or the wireless one with the BlueTrack technology?

Now if they got sell a white Nikon D3...

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The Sidewinder mouse can be found in Low Yat Plaza already. Now if they got sell a white Nikon D3...
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which shop ar? cycom , czone, sri komp, all IT doesn't has.

yes. wireless with the blue thing.

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too all X6 users,
Is the keyboard features anti ghosting features?

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don't think so...but so far nv jam on me =.="...playing fallout 3, cod or l4d works fine wat :thumb:
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QUOTE(daruma @ Jun 15 2009, 11:21 AM)
where has sell sidewinder x8 mouse? i tried find lowyat plaza no found.
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u can pm Enigmare
he has selling the X8 in cheap price =3

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Hi guys! After long pondering and sleepless nights... I finally get my butt up and got myself a new keyboard and a mouse... THE X6 and the X8! WooHoo!!! rclxms.gif drool.gif

So far so good... I tried Battlefield and obviously cannot reload when crouching and moving forward which is [Ctrl]+ [W]+ [R]. how about other ppl?
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QUOTE(eternity4av @ Jun 15 2009, 10:20 AM)
erm, is there anyone selling new x6 for rm 225 ready stock? because i need to send my razer lycosa mirror for rma, and i need a replacement as soon as possible as i hardly get back to kl, because i was studying elsewhere, only by this week, please do reply, thanks in advance
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i bought my sidewinder X6 for rm219 from skcs1985. His shop name is CEX
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QUOTE(ericpires @ Jun 16 2009, 09:19 AM)
i bought my sidewinder X6 for rm219 from skcs1985. His shop name is CEX
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so far no problem with the x6......i scored a high score in the facebook's typing of the ghost......so......the keyboard is solid tongue.gif
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is x3 small enough to be a portable laptop mouse?
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QUOTE(shenshenshen @ Jun 16 2009, 01:39 PM)
so far no problem with the x6......i scored a high score in the facebook's typing of the ghost......so......the keyboard is solid tongue.gif
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lolz....you tried before pressing ctrl+w+r at the same time?....it works?
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I thought of getting a Sidewinder X8 mouse to replace my Death Adder. Does anyone tried both Razer/Microsoft mouse? The Razer seems to have poorer quality and all my friends using Razer mouse has the same opinion smile.gif
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QUOTE(xemse89 @ Jun 17 2009, 12:24 PM)
lolz....you tried before pressing ctrl+w+r at the same time?....it works?
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which games requires those 3 combination? everytime i press it, it activates msn plus thingie doh.gif...glad i bought this keyboard >_<...got it way cheaper XD...good choice to replace my old keyboard :3
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crysis

crouching + going forward + reloading

all at the same time

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let me try again...hmm, really not working xD...game issue? can't recall with previous keyboard though
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jun 17 2009, 02:14 PM)
crysis

crouching + going forward + reloading

all at the same time

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are you using G15?? Previously thinking of getting it... But the price is so much more expensive... It cost AUD$106 for G15 and only AUD$69 for x6... tongue.gif

QUOTE(Lacus @ Jun 17 2009, 02:22 PM)
let me try again...hmm, really not working xD...game issue? can't recall with previous keyboard though
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yeah im on G15.....

if ur wondering if G15 has the same issue with X6 or not....

i dunno...never tried crouching + going forward + reloading at the same time in that game...at least not conciously....see la...mebbe later tonight if i remember ill try it then i report back....


EDIT: as for price...i dunno why its such a huge difference in Australia...but i bought the G15v2 and the X6 for my boss...both at the same time and at the same place...the price difference was only about RM10-20....forgot exactly..

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yeah im on G15.....

if ur wondering if G15 has the same issue with X6 or not....

i dunno...never tried crouching + going forward + reloading at the same time in that game...at least not conciously....see la...mebbe later tonight if i remember ill try it then i report back....
EDIT: as for price...i dunno why its such a huge difference in Australia...but i bought the G15v2 and the X6 for my boss...both at the same time and at the same place...the price difference was only about RM10-20....forgot exactly..
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dunno about that la....but the time i bought the sidewinder was retailing around RM260 or something like that...

i think the price has dropped now right?? RM225 or something like that...

G15 price has been stable all the while.
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finished the game previously b4 i switch keyboard..switched because it's cheap and got backlight =p ps, i got mine from Aus also..damn cheap biggrin.gif
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what i heard from thundermatch is that the ori sidewinder ( with weights ) has been discontinued.....so...those who owns sidewinder right now are the last batch of owners.....u cannot find any sidewinder mouse more in the market....
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dunno about that la....but the time i bought the sidewinder was retailing around RM260 or something like that...

i think the price has dropped now right?? RM225 or something like that...

G15 price has been stable all the while.
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laugh.gif I'm seeing ppl selling the X6 @Rm219 now... rclxub.gif
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i get it for rm188...haha
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i got it less than that haha :3
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lolz...how much u get it for??rm138??
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ok....i tried the ctrl+w+r with my G15v1

crouching + going forward + reloading

all at the same time in crysis....

no problem and works perfectly..

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lol...logitech failed me once >_>..so..not getting their mouse n keyboard >_<
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Changed to sideiwnder because I dun like the spongy feeling of typing on logitech keyboard... And also the price for it.... rclxms.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ Jun 17 2009, 10:18 PM)
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1067352&hl=
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QUOTE(satan6666 @ Jun 18 2009, 12:14 PM)
u should revise a little bit da price...although it is opened for testing,it still consider second hand btw~ blush.gif

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hows the performance of the x3? i seriously do not favour that oval looks of the x3....looks uncool and childish....sorry for my very direct comment....but its how i feel about the x3......
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comfortable and nice grip>how it looks
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hows the performance of the x3? i seriously do not favour that oval looks of the x3....looks uncool and childish....sorry for my very direct comment....but its how i feel about the x3......
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comfortable grip and light.
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QUOTE(satan6666 @ Jun 18 2009, 06:55 PM)
comfortable grip and light.
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sounds more like my DA.... tongue.gif ..... btw do u noe tat sidewinder with weight has been discontinued? tats sad sad.gif was planning to get 1 of those.
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lolz...last time told you to get it, you were hesitating tongue.gif
aim for x8 then laugh.gif

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QUOTE(dlwl @ Jun 18 2009, 07:49 PM)
lolz...last time told you to get it, you were hesitating tongue.gif
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yeah x8 overrated mouse la...rm300++ better upgrade mobo or prob la....
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anyone here wants to let go their G15? smile.gif hehehe..
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x8 rm260 only according to this guy selling here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=999872&hl=
don't worry, definately got chance to buy. you get what you pay for with that price laugh.gif


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still consider expensive.....
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if u want the mouse(Famous branded) with weight I guess RM200~RM300 would be the budget .....

actually is not much difference between the weight catridge mouse ... just some feel =.=
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QUOTE(wingster @ Jun 18 2009, 10:02 PM)
if u want the mouse(Famous branded) with weight I guess RM200~RM300 would be the budget .....

actually is not much difference between the weight catridge mouse ... just some feel =.=
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QUOTE(shenshenshen @ Jun 19 2009, 10:41 AM)
haha yeah...that wan seriously overrated......i dun really sense a big difference between mouse with catridge and w/o ..... maybe just for the cool-ness.....but memang pun very cool .....haha tongue.gif
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the weight cartridge put it like dust for half a year already ... no use one =_= just feel a little difference UNLESS u are seriously care about fitting the weight and also the movement
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jun 17 2009, 12:29 PM)
I thought of getting a Sidewinder X8 mouse to replace my Death Adder. Does anyone tried both Razer/Microsoft mouse? The Razer seems to have poorer quality and all my friends using Razer mouse has the same opinion smile.gif
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I have both mice u mentioned, after switching from DA to X8 so far so good.

As usual it takes sometime to get used to the new mouse. Athlo i kinda miss the rubberized top, but good thing its u wont worry dusts on it or worse.. when it start peeling... eww tongue.gif

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yeah x8 overrated mouse la...rm300++ better upgrade mobo or prob la....
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How overrated?.. i kept hearing u saying that.. its there a cheaper mouse that has wired/wireless function?..

And i see u kept saying.. "expensive"... i'll understand if u post it under "Gaming Mouse thread", but this its "Sidewinder thread"... its there mouse less than rm100 range in Sidewinder range?.. rolleyes.gif

Cheers smile.gif

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There's always a gd lazer mouse that cost just about RM120 ..OCZ Behemoth..hehe
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There's always a gd lazer mouse that cost just about RM120 ..OCZ Behemoth..hehe
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ocz behemoth can get for rm100 btw~lolz
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...stop brand wars =.= there's no point to talk about the price tag

different brand and different performance are coming with different prices ...


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planning to get x3..coz my sidewinder mouse kinda big for me..huhu.. sad.gif
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planning to get x3..coz my sidewinder mouse kinda big for me..huhu.. sad.gif
any review from others forumer?
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guys i've just revised my price for my mouse feel free to check it out

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry26694094
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ts who's selling the x6 for rm225?
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try CEX...selling for 228 i guess....and u shud really check out garage sales....a few more fellas selling including sniper69......nowadays the sales of MS x6 is getting hot.......

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Cex selling for rm219 i think....not so sure....try ask them~

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QUOTE(shenshenshen @ Jun 20 2009, 02:12 AM)
try CEX...selling for 228 i guess....and u shud really check out garage sales....a few more fellas selling including sniper69......nowadays the sales of MS x6 is getting hot.......
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wow x8,nice...i'm using x6 and x5 nia.....
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Gonna use it nicely... Dun wanna break this previous.... My Precious.... wub.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(xemse89 @ Jun 18 2009, 09:19 PM)
still consider expensive.....
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QUOTE(raikein @ Jun 21 2009, 10:44 AM)
expensive but its worthy if you are hardcore gamer...
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what's the point anyway...x8 looks exactly like x5....i rather get x5 althought i got the money to buy x8...juz my opinion though~
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QUOTE(xemse89 @ Jun 21 2009, 03:42 PM)
what's the point anyway...x8 looks exactly like x5....i rather get x5 althought i got the money to buy x8...juz my opinion though~
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its not looks exactly like X5, not at exactly but almost look like X5...

btw, for me i need higher dpi mice..thats all...
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QUOTE(xemse89 @ Jun 21 2009, 02:42 PM)
what's the point anyway...x8 looks exactly like x5....i rather get x5 althought i got the money to buy x8...juz my opinion though~
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how can you compare a wireless mouse with a wired mouse?
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QUOTE(choyster @ Jun 21 2009, 05:50 PM)
how can you compare a wireless mouse with a wired mouse?
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laugh.gif More and more people coming up with owning an X6 and X8... tongue.gif Anyone has reports of fading keys on their X6 so far?? wink.gif
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nope,no fading key so far~
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fading? thats impossible...cos its MICROSOFT! top quality built material .... you can relax.........so far i havent heard any complain on the x6.........its the best keyboard ever produce.......from driver to macros......
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QUOTE(xemse89 @ Jun 21 2009, 02:42 PM)
what's the point anyway...x8 looks exactly like x5....i rather get x5 althought i got the money to buy x8...juz my opinion though~
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lol.. first say.. "whats the point".. then later say "i got the money to buy x8".. lol ..doesn't make sense at all shakehead.gif

For your information, rather than looking at the pictures, if u don't chance to check the X8, at least read the reviews especially user reviews abt it before blindly post reply.

Especially the obvious differences its the wired/wireless feature, and the mouse physical shape are more ergonomics too, more suitable for human... lol

Even the first Sidewinder X its looks and feel different compared to X5.

QUOTE(shenshenshen @ Jun 22 2009, 01:52 PM)
fading? thats impossible...cos its MICROSOFT! top quality built material .... you can relax.........so far i havent heard any complain on the x6.........its the best keyboard ever produce.......from driver to macros......
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Lol.. what a bold word to use.. nothing its impossible, if not theres would be no Warranty (or even better Lifetime Warranty, if they are so sure their QC its out of this world.. heh) or RMA department.. lol...

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QUOTE(xemse89 @ Jun 21 2009, 02:42 PM)
what's the point anyway...x8 looks exactly like x5....i rather get x5 althought i got the money to buy x8...juz my opinion though~
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X8 and X5 are totally different in terms of design and feel although it looks similar.... X8 > X5 in terms of comfort lvl.... Try both mice 1st before expressing ur opinion.... It might change the way u think about both mice....
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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ Jun 23 2009, 12:48 PM)
Lol.. what a bold word to use.. nothing its impossible, if not theres would be no Warranty (or even better Lifetime Warranty, if they are so sure their QC its out of this world.. heh) or RMA department.. lol...
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Yeah, and I can proudly admit - the X6 is kinda stupid cuz it doesn't have any feet to prop it up. Makes playing FPS games a hassle... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Enigmare @ Jun 24 2009, 09:52 AM)
Yeah, and I can proudly admit - the X6 is kinda stupid cuz it doesn't have any feet to prop it up. Makes playing FPS games a hassle... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ Jun 23 2009, 12:48 PM)
lol.. first say.. "whats the point".. then later say "i got the money to buy x8".. lol ..doesn't make sense at all  shakehead.gif

For your information, rather than looking at the pictures, if u don't chance to check the X8, at least read the reviews especially user reviews abt it before blindly post reply.

Especially the obvious differences its the wired/wireless feature, and the mouse physical shape are more ergonomics too, more suitable for human... lol

Even the first Sidewinder X its looks and feel different compared to X5.
Lol.. what a bold word to use.. nothing its impossible, if not theres would be no Warranty (or even better Lifetime Warranty, if they are so sure their QC its out of this world.. heh) or RMA department.. lol...

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what i'm tyring to say is it looks exactly like x5...i tried before two mouse...i noe all of the features that both mouse provided...just that i don't agree on spending much on x8....do you get what i mean?
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Well since many people still figure it out what the main features, where's the highlight about the Sidewinder X8
so here I make some my complete review and verdict about this X8 mouse

Microsoft Sidewinder X8 Review

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Ok right now I made a complete review about Microsoft Sidewinder X8 Bluetrack Optical Gaming Mouse.

Here's the features about this lovely X8:

- 4000 dpi with Bluetrack Optical Sensor
- Comfortable plastic matte coated
- 3 instant button on-the-fly dpi change
- Top and bottom thumbside button design
- Spare mousefeet
- All in 1 Puck which supplies wired USB charger port and wireless dongle
- Macro Record button
- Game File Shortcut Button


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Design

The design of the Sidewinder X8 is mostly target for larger palm user as you can see the shape of this mouse is rather big but slightly smaller than the Razer Lachesis gaming mouse. The shape are rarely ergonomic and nice plastic feel compare to the Microsoft Explorer Mouse which is the same price range as the Sidewinder X8. The design, indeed most of the people highly prefer that rubber coating brings comfort however rubberized coat is easy for get scratch and not comfortable while your palm sweating. Sidewinder X8 is greatly design with the plastic coating, is rather smooth and soft feel however there's a small con that because the smooth coating I did realised this mouse will get slipped sometimes. (in some way) Buttons are place great as the previous Sidewinder's X5 and non-X version, in X8 the metallic coating and lean inside thumbnail button (top and bottom) is absolutely fit nicely on your finger. Even some people has claimed that this kind of design will cause accidently pressing the button but for me is rather fine.
There's some question why Sidewinder X8 mouse thumbnail buttons are places at Top and Bottom? well too see through, it gives you more faster acting to press on the button without moving your finger so much. Likewise, X8 Top and Buttom thumbnail buttons has more nicely fitting and easy to press than previous predecessor however it may costs of more easy to press through the button in accident but still is not a big issue either if you have take attention on it. For me 100 times, I did press 1 times accidently..... XD

Performance

Performance well, from the minimum 200 dpi to 4000 dpi is work the same as the Razer Lachesis who also own the 4000 dpi performance, while Razer Mamba has overpawn the first as always of the highest dpi sensor mouse in the gaming mouse industry.
BUT high sensor means everything? Well not so....
Majority of people are satisfy onwards 1600~2000 dpi performance is fast for them.... even for those users who own the gaming mouse with more than 2000 dpi sensor are still remain to use between 1XXX ~ 2000++ dpi sensor.
So the super dpi might be useful or useless for certain of users depends thier comfort of usage.

As you can see Sidewinder X8 is selling thier new Bluetrack Optical Sensor technology instead of highest dpi sensitivity Mamba.
About the main features of Bluetrack Optical Sensor, to talk generally it is a new sensor which has fast reaction and tracking sensitivity than the lasers mouse.
Same goes to the Razer Death Adder (Running Infrared Engine) which also a powerful tracking sensor mouse as Bluetrack mousie.
In addition tested by many X8 users on many surface, X8 can work almost any surface even in fully transparent glasses.

And ..Yup there's one benifits on this mouse it is running wireless and can charge while you play (we called as the 'Hybrid'). While the charging wire has made by magnet so is rather fast and easy to charge your mouse.
Which means, if the dongle (puck) has malfunction on wireless, which means your whole mouse is also malfunction unlike Razer Mamba.

In addition LED Display is able for you to read the actual dpi settings and provides clear information especially while you using the Intellpoint and Macro Record features

Total buttons are slightly dissapoint for the macro user however if you want to compare with the previous Sidewinder it has 2 additional buttons.
(Total up buttons are (excluding non-custom buttons) Left & Right Click, Top & Bottom Button, Left & Right Scroll, Scroll Button)

Lastly talk about the non-function buttons which is the :
Sidewinder Icon (Game Shortcut Button)
3 Dpi On-the-fly buttons
Macro Record buttons

Well they are two useful un-custom here which is the on-the-fly dpi and the macro record buttons.
Sidewinder series dpi on-the-fly function are so called "unique" compare the others, first as you can see they have 3 dpi change buttons instead of 2 dpi change buttons however as the main con for all the Sidewinder series, you CANT custom more than 3 dpi preset buttons.
Likewise about DPI Option is also a 'quite' disappointment, because it has more limited dpi option than the Logitech G9 which has every 200 DPI increment and while Razer Mamba has every 100 DPI increment.
Here's the DPI Increment for the Sidewinder X8 from 250 DPI pump through 4000 DPI

(Min) 250 < > 500 < > 750 < > 1000 < > 1500 < > 2000 < > 3000 < > 4000 (Max)

As for heavy dpi change user (especially for FPS gamer), this mouse might not suitable but if you not take serious about it, it may be very handy.
Talk about 3 buttons versus 2 buttons, Sidewinders mouse is much easy and faster to operate the actual dpi at the centre of the mouse you sets rather than press for increasing/decreasing buttons. In terms of handling, 3 buttons does takes thier advantages.

Move on the Macro Record buttons well same goes with Razer Mamba, X8 has also include the Macro Recording while you need to record something urgently into your mouse.
Lastly as and always the Microsoft Intellpoint Software, a classical software that supports most of the Microsoft Mouse with the macro record and special features and the other custom feature within the software. It has bringing some good advantages on gaming and macro managing especially for the FPS gaming purpose.
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Verdict

Microsoft Sidewinder X8 is a quite comfortable, ergonomically palm type gaming mouse. Besides the freedom of gaming, it's also offer a best and cheap hybrid performance mouse in the market.

Well here some comparison against the others brand : -

Compare X8 to Logitech G9, G9x

Logitech G9,G9x is an excellent mouse which has multi profile, onboard memory and interchangable grip, X8 may even lose against the 5000dpi on G9x but X8 wins their tracking performance and the sizes are rarely more ergonomic and also the Intellpoint Features are more advantages than the SetPoints. Hardly to compare this two mouse, since they are targeting with different features user.

Compare X8 to Razer Lachesis

Well same style and dpi sensor, to compare the price, X8 are slightly (or more) expensive than Lachesis but overall X8 still pawns the hybrid features and the bluetrack technology. No doubt that Lachesis still do it's advantages for the On Board Memory and more custom buttons and also comfortable grip coating. Another thing consider, Lachesis is very huge in size than X8 so it might not serve very well in FPS games.

Compare X8 to Razer Mamba

No need to match for the 5600dpi, greater comfortable and the same hybrid feature together with the extras macro record + onboard memory. But only one thing you may feel the huge difference against the IMBA MAMBA, first Mamba is much more expensive mouse against any others while X8 is almost nearly half price of the Mamba, plus X8 is also pawns a better tracking ability and also longer durability battery life. Likewise, the wire port for charge and play in Mamba is slightly annoying because u need to plug off the charger port which also the wireless dongle and also is rather hard to pull, in addition Mamba USB port is unique type so once you lost ur port .... might be quite problem.

Compare X8 to Ikari Optical and Laser

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Overall :

Pro's

-High dpi settings (up to 4000 dpi)
-Rather cheaper the price compare the others new 4000++ dpi mouses
-Super tracking performance thanks to the Bluetrack Optical
-Unique 3 buttons dpi on-the-fly
-Most custom action button if compare the others Sidewinder Mouses
-Macro Record buttons
-Top and Bottom thumnail buttons
-Intellpoint Software works in good feature on gaming
-Hybrid Features
-Strong Battery Lasting and Fast Battery Charge compare the others competitors gaming mouse.
-LED Display

Con's

-Main price are still expensive round for high dpi mouse but you can found cheaper at Enigmare sales =3
-Non-rubberized coating
-Bulky 'All in One' Puck compare through the Razer Mamba and Logitech G7 (which has seperated dongle and charger)
-Still consider a bulky mouse =3
-No onboard memory
-Thumbnail buttons may cause accident pressing sometimes
-Mouse may easily slip on your hand while your hand is very sweaty
-Slightly less customable buttons compare the others new series gaming mouse
-Bluetrack cannot track very smooth on smooth white surface
-Not-so-smooth mouse feet if you are using on through the very hard surface and the mousefeet may suffer grinded if u keep using on hard surface table
-Less option for the dpi changes compare to the Logitech and Razer mouse
-Only 3 DPI Option presets

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wow, great job, thanks for your detailed review, how about pin this on the first page?
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WOW!superb review!yeah,this should pin on the first page
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post Jun 27 2009, 05:09 PM

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Continue the review about other's sidewinder mousie

Sidewinder X5 Gaming Mouse
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Ok for those keep argue about the differences about X5 and X8 please look carefully THEY ARE DIFFERENCES in features and usage!!!

Right now here is the features about the Sidewinder X5

-2000 dpi with so-called HD Laser Tracking Technology
-Rubberized scroll and side panel
-2nd lightest around the Sidewinder Mouse series (according to Microsoft, X5 is 20g lighter than the original Sidewinder mouse without additional weight inside =/)
-3 instant button dpi on-the-fly
-Top and Bottom Thumb button design
-5 Wider Mousefeet as Sidewinder below the X5
-Vista Game File Shortcut button (press at the icon of Sidewinder in X5 =3)
-2.0 Wired USB Port

Design

Ok well Sidewinder X5 I can strictly said that it is most comfortable class mouse between the Sidewinder and Sidewinder X8, side panel and the scrolling was rubberized coated (well comfortable rubberized scrolling grip BUT chunky =_= ....), also it's more suite to anyone for using X5. Ergonomically, well not good as the big bro X8, however Sidewinder X5 is second lighter gaming mouse in the Sidewinder series. For side buttons as the same as the Original, X5 side thumb button are rounded cylinder shaped but the difference between his old bro, X5 side button is made by plastic....
Also to compare the old bro and this smaller bro X5, they have many negative feedback against the side panel Buttons. Because the design is in top and bottom label, the old bro and smaller bro are suffering an accident pressing through the button, the main reason is because the buttons are to close through the finger thumb rest and because the rounded and lean out shape, you can't avoid to hit in accident sometimes if you are making fast action on gaming, this is why they redesign the side panel button on X8 to reduce this kind of problem effectively.


Performance

Well for those who look down the Sidewinders mouse are phobia against Microsoft product....
Actually Sidewinder's mouse are as good performance as the others brand like Razer and Logitech, it actually has their unique point compare the others. X5 has 2000 dpi as his old bro just lack out the LCD Display. Starting 400dpi step through 2000dpi is standard as the others 2000 dpi average competitors but lack in X and Y DPI axis sensitivity choice (same goes to any Sidewinder mousie)
Top and Bottom side button might disappoint for some person who suffering the problem I said but if you have no problem with that actually it can be works in superb handling.
For myself it goes well fine performance as my Logitech G9 .... nothing much difference between them just 3200dpi & 2000dpi differences.

Also X5 well same goes his old bro Sidewinder they are very limited 5 customable button (while 7 custom buttons goes for big bro X8), total up you will have 11 (5 customable - Left&Right click, Top&Bottom Panel Button, Center Scroll Button, 6 non-customable button - right & left scroll button, 3 preset dpi buttons and sidewinder icon button)

Verdict

Microsoft Sidewinder X5 is a much comfortable medium-big sized gaming mouse compared to X8, but still majority of people hates Sidewinder is because it looks .... some sort Ugly (no curvy and stylish looks) and claimed as the classic play mouse, same goes to Old Bro Sidewinder which also claimed as the ugly mouse for most of the people, but in terms of comfortable and performance, well X5 never loses against his competitors and yet Intellpoint is still a strong software which works with any Sidewinder Mouse include this lovely X5 in gaming features and also it has better macro record software (since they united the Intellpoint at once, this works with any Microsoft mouses which support the Intellipoint) than the Razer Copperhead,Diamondback and Logitech Setpoints.

Here's the comparison against the others brand:

Logitech G5

Well how can they say Sidewinder is Ugly? Logitech G5 is also huge in it's curve shape as MX518 and G7 and quite uncomfortable to hold long on this mouse because it's make my hand cramp, Sidewinder X5 still well done of it's wide and comfortable shape which makes me no problem on long period on-holding of this mouse. But to consider, G5 has 5 DPI Preset which pawns 3 FIXED DPI Preset, a weight adjustments and G5 has better tracking sensor than X5.

Razer Diamondback

Well nice to say Intellipoint has overall better software and configuration than the Razer Diamondback Software (Diamondback upgrading firmware cause much better improvement =P) software ....
2000dpi with same level tracking performance as 1800dpi 3G just somehow Diamondback looks sexier than X5 ..... =X

Razer Copperhead

Need some feedback.

Here's the comparison against it's brother

Sidewinder non-X

Of course 20g lighter than his old-bro in 'naked', smaller sized than his old-bro and costs more cheaper also
While Old-Bro has spare mouse feet and also weight adjustment and also LCD Display

Sidewinder X8

1 times price of the X5, X8 Big Bro has featured in 4000 dpi settings, Bluetrack Technology, Spare Mouse feet and LCD Display and also the improved thumb side buttons.
But Big Bro are built in plastically .... although the size is slightly smaller than it's old bro, X8 doesn't have a better and wider mouse feet as his smaller bro and X8 mousefeet can be damaged so easily in hard surface.

Overall

Pro's :

-Cheaper in price
-Great tracking performance in laser
-Rubberized coated in scrolling wheel and side panel
-Sexy LED in Red
-3 Unique DPI On-The-Fly
-Intellpoint works in good feature in gaming
-2nd Smaller and lighter Sized compared to it's 2 big bro

Con's:

-Thumbside button issue is very seriously than X8, highly unsuitable for certain of people
-5 (included left and right click) Custom Button only!?
-Still in Bulky (well all Sidewinder's are bulky expect baby bro X3)
-Side panel fitting is not suite for some people through
-3 DPI Preset Option ONLY!


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thanks wingster for clearing all thoughts....hehe

nice reviews...
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wow...sure really good gaming mouse..nice review here
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yes, it is, but it's all up to consumer preferences, whether which one suits them best!
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wow,thx again for wingster reviews....thumb up for great reviews
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Nice review dude - gonna pin it up on first page no worries... laugh.gif
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Thanks man =3
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Star InTech reviewed the Sidewinder X8 as well. biggrin.gif
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huhu pending for more sidewinders owners =3


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QUOTE(wingster @ Jun 30 2009, 05:30 PM)
Thanks man =3
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Mind to let us know how you judge the tracking performance in your review?
Testbed, settings and any relevant info

One more, is bluetrack a technology used as enhancement to the laser sensor
or a totally new independent laser sensor?

If it's the second, does it mean:
Razer - infrared laser sensor
MS - bluetrack laser sensor
Logitech/SS - conventional laser sensor
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QUOTE(shelke @ Jul 5 2009, 12:29 AM)
Mind to let us know how you judge the tracking performance in your review?
Testbed, settings and any relevant info

One more, is bluetrack a technology used as enhancement to the laser sensor
or a totally new independent laser sensor?

If it's the second, does it mean:
Razer - infrared laser sensor
MS - bluetrack laser sensor
Logitech/SS - conventional laser sensor
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From many tester and others people review also self experiment

Mind I did say Bluetrack actually is a blue optical sensor (which is same name and running as optical but comes in blue color)
To known that, Bluetrack has larger optical lights which has wider sensor while touch the surface and they claim to said that blue colors light has more greater tracking .... well for more information you can check the Microsoft retail website

Razer has also another unique which Infrared Sensor(not infrared laser) which also has wider sensor but the details I'm not sure yet =_=

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Okay, i've just registered to get an idea on how to obtain this mouse for a good price... Any advice??? Cuz in the earlier post there was discussion on the x8 at a price of Rm270? Isit still at that price???

What shops actually sells this mouse? So i can actually have a look and all? Thanks for the advice..
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Mircosoft is getting better with gaming devices like mouse and k/b. Nice review between. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(need.a.mouse @ Aug 19 2009, 12:40 AM)
Okay, i've just registered to get an idea on how to obtain this mouse for a good price... Any advice??? Cuz in the earlier post there was discussion on the x8 at a price of Rm270? Isit still at that price???

What shops actually sells this mouse? So i can actually have a look and all? Thanks for the advice..
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Some people in LYN selling for RM260. Enigmare is one of them, look for this thread.

I'm getting my MS Sidewinder X6 Keyboard tomorrow ! I can't wait to get my hands on it ! drool.gif
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QUOTE(CelciuzX @ Aug 20 2009, 04:33 PM)
Some people in LYN selling for RM260. Enigmare is one of them, look for this thread.

I'm getting my MS Sidewinder X6 Keyboard tomorrow ! I can't wait to get my hands on it ! drool.gif
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Lolz, i alredi feel like selling my X6 kb alredi... even just 1month plus. its not really too my liking and i dont use the backlight and etc much ahaha
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QUOTE(ericpires @ Aug 20 2009, 04:34 PM)
Lolz, i alredi feel like selling my X6 kb alredi... even just 1month plus. its not really too my liking and i dont use the backlight and etc much ahaha
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What do you dislike about it ? Or you just don't use it's functions ?
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QUOTE(CelciuzX @ Aug 20 2009, 04:36 PM)
What do you dislike about it ? Or you just don't use it's functions ?
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Arm rest is too short. No legs at the side


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Hmm. Yeah the gaming functions can't be used unless i get a new rig

Arm rest is too short. No legs at the side
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Owh, so it isn't the KB's fault. Just your personal disliking. I don't think the legs will make much of a difference for me cause the KB i'm using now doesn't have legs. It broke. sleep.gif

It all just takes a little use to. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(CelciuzX @ Aug 20 2009, 05:19 PM)
Owh, so it isn't the KB's fault. Just your personal disliking. I don't think the legs will make much of a difference for me cause the KB i'm using now doesn't have legs. It broke. sleep.gif

It all just takes a little use to.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Well to say the keys fade ... is normally happen for all gaming keyboard while X6 offer more cheaper price than the Logitech G15v2 but with much Macro Functionality...

People say X6 sucks well, Microsoft have a satisfy mouse macro's and configuration software but comes keyboard it still a shame due for the problematic macro recording. In my opinion, I'm quite happy for the X6 typing feel as I'm as a laptop user =D but the lacking of standing leg is still fine for the keyboard just a little not comfortable XD

Macro inside the X6 is bad for recording and the performance but the placing and the working of the macro buttons is great I can said which you are still able to assign macro on the place at the numpad also XD

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QUOTE(wingster @ Aug 20 2009, 05:38 PM)
Well to say the keys fade ... is normally happen for all gaming keyboard while X6 offer more cheaper price than the Logitech G15v5 but with much Macro Functionality...

People say X6 sucks well, Microsoft have a satisfy mouse macro's and configuration software but comes keyboard it still a shame due for the problematic macro recording. In my opinion, I'm quite happy for the X6 typing feel as I'm as a laptop user =D but the lacking of standing leg is still fine for the keyboard just a little not comfortable XD

Macro inside the X6 is bad for recording and the performance but the placing and the working of the macro buttons is great I can said which you are still able to assign macro on the place at the numpad also XD
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So basically the macro software is the only thing you're not satisfied with ? Is it just not user friendly ? Other than that, this KB is still great right ?
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QUOTE(CelciuzX @ Aug 20 2009, 06:26 PM)
So basically the macro software is the only thing you're not satisfied with ? Is it just not user friendly ? Other than that, this KB is still great right ?
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ya this keyboard is great overall but rights depends on users, go feel it before you buy =3
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I wonder does the X8 mouse grip gets scratched and would peel off after some usage? I like the X8 but I hope it doesn't peel off like my current microsoft wireless mouse.
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My Razer Krait rubberized grip is fading off after a year +. sad.gif
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On a review site, they mentioned that X8 uses smooth plastic but not rubber anymore. I'm not so sure but one site mentioned as such.
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ya X8 uses smooth plastic coating ... makes it durable and this mouse is more ergonomic used =3 HOWEVER this mouse is big sized so you might mind if you are small palm user
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Wow, cool! That convinces me that X8 could be longer lasting mouse. I'm not fond of logitech mouse because my experience says MX518 peels in months. I have big palms. I won't mind it being big.

Now I feel really tempted. biggrin.gif
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Just got my Sidewinder X6, it's a nice keyboard but i really need to get used to it. It's so hard to type cause the buttons are place different from regular keyboards.

I lost in DOTA cos of this T.T
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Congratulations ... take your time to get used your keyboard however starting you might not like or comfortable with the small F1~F12 and the ESC buttons .. =D
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I'm getting used to it already. Making less typos now. I'm loving this keyboard smile.gif
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huhu i think my sidewinder X6 is the cheapest! last time got one PC shop in Taman U, Skudai sell at RM135 each for 5 units yang x laku..huhu i got the last one, and the last one actually was a demo unit..sell at morning, night at 845PM already finished..then got one promoter i met in MMU LAN party event promoting sidewinder at RM2xx to, i say i can get at RM135..he dont believe like hell hahaa
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got one sidewinder X6 onsale

juz to share out this as i`m not really a gamer, want to sale out this hobby to someone more appreciate it.

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post Aug 24 2009, 11:05 AM

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is it a good idea to change from x5 to x8???hmm.......any ideas guys?
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post Aug 24 2009, 01:02 PM

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maybe you can consider steelseries? although i'am an avid Sidewinder user
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QUOTE(xemse89 @ Aug 24 2009, 11:05 AM)
is it a good idea to change from x5 to x8???hmm.......any ideas guys?
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nah...i suggest u stick to x5..
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why??x8 not nice?
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post Aug 29 2009, 10:39 AM

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I’m an X8 user and I’m happy with it – however I concluded that if the X8 is too big or too small for you, then you might not like the X8, or any peripherals for that matter, balance is where it’s at. But most gaming mice are bigger and wider than your average non-gaming mices, so to each adapt to their own mouse.

Other the size issue, the wireless capability and battery life were impressive to say the least. It may not be as feature packed as other gaming mice, e.g. change cover, can save profile, etc, but I find the perfect balance in X8. Now if only I can get X6 to complement my X8, can't find it anywhere in the Land Below the Wind.
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QUOTE(xemse89 @ Aug 24 2009, 06:16 PM)
why??x8 not nice?
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nah..just that i rmmbr "someone" said that it will such a waste to buy a X8... hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Aug 30 2009, 01:38 AM

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haha,yeah i noe i'm da person,but since i got the budget for it i'll still will consider goin for it.....
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post Aug 30 2009, 12:17 PM

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one question for the sidewinder x6 keyboard.
how can i use the play/pause button at anytime?
mean i playing game i can press that button to pause the song.
now i only can pause the song when i m on the player.
sry my english poor.
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QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Aug 30 2009, 12:17 PM)
one question for the sidewinder x6 keyboard.
how can i use the play/pause button at anytime?
mean i playing game i can press that button to pause the song.
now i only can pause the song when i m on the player.
sry my english poor.
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When i'm playing games, i can't use the media feature too (play/pause,back/forward).
I can only use it when i'm not running a full screen game. sad.gif
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post Aug 30 2009, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(masashi89 @ Aug 24 2009, 02:49 PM)
nah...i suggest u stick to x5..
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well X5 has almost the same functionally as X8 just the Mono LCD Reader and the Instant Macro Record ability and 2 lesser button ... as well as 2000dpi
but for foremost, 2000dpi is enough for gaming and average in any RTS games or daily usage.

For my suggestion is ..

IF you like to .. Travel Along .. Heavy Macro .. Loves the Bigger Bro X8 than your Little Bro X5 .. greater DPI hits and tracking, X8 is recommended

Consider Downside ..

IF you most likely a .. small palm user .. feel more comfortable with grip .. not a high DPI users .. works fine with wired mouse .. X8 may not suited for you =3
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I have a question. I notice the X8 mouse feet worns off pretty fast on my Destructor pad. How do I fix this? Buy some teflon replacements myself?
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post Sep 16 2009, 05:22 AM

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Hm.. I thought that x8 comes along with different set of feet you can use? Well, at least until they come out with third party replacement feet for the x8.
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QUOTE(viqq @ Sep 16 2009, 05:22 AM)
Hm.. I thought that x8 comes along with different set of feet you can use? Well, at least until they come out with third party replacement feet for the x8.
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I've tried and all of them are about the same, lol. I can't feel the difference? There are 3 types but which color is supposed to be good for the Destructor mat? Anyone knows?
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unfortunately you cannot do anything but let it grind off since it is made by plastic surface
this is the major downside also and .... yup thats it >.<
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I can't get replacement feets from anywhere? I read about some good quality teflon feets so is that supposed to help? sad.gif
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Just wondering where everyone bought their x8 from, any recommendations? My current mouse broke so i need a new one ASAP sad.gif
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i agree as i using sidewinder x3 but i feel dpi only better as the mouse so light
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post Sep 18 2009, 08:47 AM

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what would be the latest price for x6?
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QUOTE(Ageha @ Sep 17 2009, 01:50 PM)
Just wondering where everyone bought their x8 from, any recommendations?  My current mouse broke so i need a new one ASAP sad.gif
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I see some new x8 selling at Viewnet Lowyat Plaza.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Sep 17 2009, 12:27 AM)
I can't get replacement feets from anywhere? I read about some good quality teflon feets so is that supposed to help? sad.gif
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I believe that u can't get replacement feet anywhere in retail since Microsoft uses clip-on plastic feet...... Maybe u can buy some teflon feet that is for other mice and stick it on the X8.... It might help that way..... Other alternative will be asking Microsoft.....
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Ya, I believe so too and sticking teflon feet is probably my only choice. The plastic feet originally will get brushed off unevenly on a hard surface mouse pad like Destructor. After a while it's no longer smooth movements, oh well sad.gif
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I'm thinkin about getting x6 but from what I read from newegg reviews

some user only can press mostly two yet at once. blink.gif

Can somebody confirm this?

ie, in TF2 crouch + walk forward + reload or more at the same time.

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QUOTE(Ageha @ Sep 17 2009, 01:50 PM)
Just wondering where everyone bought their x8 from, any recommendations?  My current mouse broke so i need a new one ASAP sad.gif
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Sep 15 2009, 11:41 PM)
I have a question. I notice the X8 mouse feet worns off pretty fast on my Destructor pad. How do I fix this? Buy some teflon replacements myself?
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Wah.. the mouse-feet quite thick.. so fast worn out?...

Btw, hows the other 2-pairs?.. oso worns out liaoz?...

Anyways, to be safe, i always use this Corepad Skatez on all my mousefeets http://www.corepad.com/index.php?pagina=artikel&id=26

At least some protection at the same time, it glides even more smoother on hard-surface pads.

Or even safer approach will be using Corepad Skatez and use soft-surface mats.

Cheers smile.gif

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Emm, it's not to say worn out but if you have the X8 and a hard surfaced mouse pad then you'll get what I mean smile.gif The mouse feets are plastic so after a while of usage, it will eventually become uneven and rough. Hence, you no longer get smooth movements from it.

I'm not sure where we can buy Corepad Skatez in Malaysia?
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Hi guys, just wanna ask something about the Sidewinder X5, how's the usability for casual users? Coz I only play games every now and then but I've already gone through 3 normal mice since January.
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QUOTE(FauxHawk @ Sep 27 2009, 01:57 AM)
Hi guys, just wanna ask something about the Sidewinder X5, how's the usability for casual users? Coz I only play games every now and then but I've already gone through 3 normal mice since January.
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It is okay for both normal activities + occasional gaming, IMHO for budget perhaps you can opt for X3 instead.
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Microsoft X3 user reporting in. =)
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Would like to ask about X6..does it really slow down ur boot time on start up of ur window?
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well as an avid X6 user, i didn't find such problem occurs...did you? The only thing that slowing my boot-time is my torrent start up LOL
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hi there...anyone can tell me how to claim warranty for my x5?
i bought from a forumer here and does not have a receipt.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Sep 25 2009, 02:11 PM)
Emm, it's not to say worn out but if you have the X8 and a hard surfaced mouse pad then you'll get what I mean smile.gif The mouse feets are plastic so after a while of usage, it will eventually become uneven and rough. Hence, you no longer get smooth movements from it.

I'm not sure where we can buy Corepad Skatez in Malaysia?
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so any good mouse pad to combine wit x8?
btw my x8 always stuck..the cursor wont move even the batt is fully charge..what is really happen? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(pingy_ping @ Oct 12 2009, 04:48 PM)
hi there...anyone can tell me how to claim warranty for my x5?
i bought from a forumer here and does not have a receipt.
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Erm, without a receipt it's kinda hard to claim. I think.
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but enigmare told me that u can claim at any microsoft GOLD PARTNER in malaysia without receipt...
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Then if that's the case. U can always give it a try. biggrin.gif I think if ur mouse is an original 1, they should have tracking id or number on it, I think they can trace from where u bought it. But i dont know what happens if they found out it is not genuine.
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i have an sidewinder x6 keyboard which is working perfectly when im using window xp pro 32bit but now that i switch to window 7 64bit the media doesnt control my itune anymore how do i set it back so it control itune when im using other software.
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Microsoft sidewinder x6 keyboard is one of the best and compact keyboard if you dont put the numpad. Lol. To me itll look weird if i add the numpad to it.
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QUOTE(masashi89 @ Oct 15 2009, 09:06 AM)
but enigmare told me that u can claim at any microsoft GOLD PARTNER in malaysia without receipt...
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i got my mouse from him...but cant contact him recently...
so how to know who is microsoft GOLD PARTNER?
anyone can tell me few of them?


Added on November 9, 2009, 8:59 amanyone kind to tell me few of microsoft GOLD PARTNER to claim warranty? really wan to revive my x5 as fast as possible

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does this keyboard have the anti ghosting function??
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@ pingy ping

http://mshardwaresea.com/malaysia/customersupport.html
Microsoft Hardware Malaysia – Customer Support website

http://www.microsoft.com/malaysia/localpartners/
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner list in Malaysia

Please let us know if you can actually claim warranty without a proof of purchase receipt. Good luck.

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any of you know where to get the X6 keyboard cheap on LYN? smile.gif
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x8 user reporting in smile.gif

anyone having problem with the specific program buttons setting? i cant get it correct, the buttons are not the keys that i programmed it. i checked online and the microsoft support says try to disable the mouse acceleration but i cannot find it. please advise.

p/s: using win7 and intellipoint 7.0

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Sidewinder and X3 user here.

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Very happy with both of them..
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x3 user here... not too happy with X3...my thumb cannot reach the left side button cry.gif
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Dec 29 2009, 01:59 AM)
x3 user here... not too happy with X3...my thumb cannot reach the left side button cry.gif
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cannot reach? this mouse seems small in size and I found no problem to reach the button =/

X3 was very cheap in look ... however it maybe the light and portable gaming mouse in Sidewinder series
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Dec 29 2009, 12:59 AM)
x3 user here... not too happy with X3...my thumb cannot reach the left side button cry.gif
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either you try to get use to it by time or you can might consider to trade it in anfd get another mouse, but choose wisely ya!
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when x6 promotion coming?x3 is now so cheap...rm49 can get lol...
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QUOTE(wingster @ Dec 29 2009, 09:32 AM)
cannot reach? this mouse seems small in size and I found no problem to reach the button =/

X3 was very cheap in look ... however it maybe the light and portable gaming mouse in Sidewinder series
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u find it small?? i find it too big for me XD all the while i've been using small mouse... what i love is its 2kDPI, but not the side button...1 more thing goo about this mouse is right and left handed also can use coz it's symmetrical
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QUOTE(lencent @ Dec 29 2009, 12:21 AM)
x8 user reporting in smile.gif

anyone having problem with the specific program buttons setting? i cant get it correct, the buttons are not the keys that i programmed it. i checked online and the microsoft support says try to disable the mouse acceleration but i cannot find it. please advise.

p/s: using win7 and intellipoint 7.0

Thanks!
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QUOTE(lencent @ Dec 29 2009, 10:20 PM)
bump up from last page...
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which specific button you're talking about?

If macro I found no problem on Win7 .... if you're talking about certain special button on the Intellpoint then thats another story rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Dec 29 2009, 08:45 PM)
u find it small?? i find it too big for me XD all the while i've been using small mouse... what i love is its 2kDPI, but not the side button...1 more thing goo about this mouse is right and left handed also can use coz it's symmetrical
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Lol. The X3 fits me nicely. And yeah, the Sidewinder is way bigger (not the X5 or X8, just the Sidewinder).

I can reach the side buttons easily..

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@ericmaxman,
what's your opinion on the x3? got a friend planning to get it
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QUOTE(dlwl @ Dec 30 2009, 01:49 PM)
@ericmaxman,
what's your opinion on the x3? got a friend planning to get it
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Pro  -

- Shape much better than the other Sidewinder, fits my hand better
- Nice and smooth
- 2000dpi + laser @ RM49  biggrin.gif
- Programmable buttons
- Nice rubber scroll wheel. Also very smooth biggrin.gif
- Side buttons not that hard to reach
- Smooth movements, due to huge mousefeets.

Cons -

- A tad bit too light
- No LCD (has to be expected, lol)
- Might feel "cheap" (to some, lol)
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QUOTE(wingster @ Dec 30 2009, 09:51 AM)
which specific button you're talking about?

If macro I found no problem on Win7 .... if you're talking about certain special button on the Intellpoint then thats another story  rolleyes.gif
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errr... the buttons are acting like ordinary buttons only, and not the specific buttons in the game. in other word, the specific program button is not working and is like normal button in windows.
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@ lencent

Help me, help you ;p Can you be like really specific so that I can (somewhat) replicate your situation with my gaming rig. I'm using Vista Ultimate only but should give us a lead or two.

If you're talking about the "spin-180-around" function, you need to calibrate it first, i.e. hit the designated button, hold left mouse, make a left or right 180 turn, then let go left mouse. Now if you click that particular button again your view will spin 180. Tried that configuration on CoD5 and it work, albeit I never use it that much, same goes with the Precision Booster feature. Curiously now, I never tried that on a RTS game yet ;p

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QUOTE(lencent @ Dec 30 2009, 04:36 PM)
errr... the buttons are acting like ordinary buttons only, and not the specific buttons in the game. in other word, the specific program button is not working and is like normal button in windows.
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well im still quite confusing what button u are talking however if u trying to mean the button problem perhaps the macro record button comes the problem sometimes while u recording on-the-spot during game
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ok... i will try my best to explain it.

intellipoint has a function that let us customize the buttons in different programs, which i call it program specific buttons setting. so i'm playing torchlight now and i set some macro. i assigned the forward and backward buttons at the side to be the macro. but in the game, i clicked the buttons but nothing happen.

hope u all can understand my lousy english. haha...
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Dec 30 2009, 02:42 PM)
Pro  -

- Shape much better than the other Sidewinder, fits my hand better
- Nice and smooth
- 2000dpi + laser @ RM49 
- Programmable buttons
- Nice rubber scroll wheel. Also very smooth
- Side buttons not that hard to reach
- Smooth movements, due to huge mousefeets.

Cons -

- A tad bit too light
- No LCD (has to be expected, lol)
- Might feel "cheap" (to some, lol)
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this is pretty subjective... let's look at how i hold my mouse, my thumb cant reach the side button.(too short maybe?)
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Dec 30 2009, 09:14 PM)
this is pretty subjective... let's look at how i hold my mouse, my thumb cant reach the side button.(too short maybe?)
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well it seems like you're flatting your palm to fit this mouse, for me this mouse suite for crawing hands because the button was much good to fit in that position
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well, maybe i too used to small mouse... that's y i find this mouse MASSIVE~~~~~
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...if this case then X8 maybe super huge to you X_X .... X3 was relatively small in size compared to all Sidewinder series
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thank god razer release a gaming mouse specifically for notebook-orochi XD (not going to buy though,wang tarak)
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Roughly how much is the SideWinder X5 retailing now? looks very interesting. Seems about time MS revived their status as a gaming peripherals maker.

Also is the mouse suitable for "Claw grip" users? hmm.gif
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just bought sidewinder x3
the problem is the software cant be install. not compatible sweat.gif

using win7 64bit here sad.gif
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have you tried downloading from here?
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/download...in7_64&lang=chs

if not mistaken the software bundled with the CD doesn't work.
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QUOTE(spoil_ @ Jan 5 2010, 09:15 PM)
just bought sidewinder x3
the problem is the software cant be install. not compatible  sweat.gif

using win7 64bit here  sad.gif
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I didn't use the CD's one.

I DL-ed straight off MS's site.
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how come cant remember to lurk on microsoft website doh.gif

thanks guys.. downloading now biggrin.gif
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post Jan 5 2010, 11:37 PM

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My side click like getting looser..
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post Jan 6 2010, 01:28 AM

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warranty 3 years, dont worry biggrin.gif
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post Jan 19 2010, 02:09 PM

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hello!!!
i'm also sidewinder users rclxms.gif .....
what's the cheapest sidewinder kb??
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post Jan 19 2010, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(MrPotato1990 @ Jan 19 2010, 02:09 PM)
hello!!!
i'm also sidewinder users rclxms.gif .....
what's the cheapest sidewinder kb??
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so far there's only 1 sidewinder keyboard. so that's the cheapest laugh.gif
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+1. Cheapest indeed. Am wondering does the X3 still going for RM49 at Sri Computer ??

[Ed.]

lord_amikin just posted yesterday in Gaming Mouse Vee III #1064 that he bought one recently, and captvizcenzo #1067 confirmed it's still RM49 at Sri Computer. Jolly good!

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QUOTE(zerashk @ Jan 19 2010, 04:26 PM)
@ dlwl

+1. Cheapest indeed. Am wondering does the X3 still going for RM49 at Sri Computer ??

[Ed.]

lord_amikin just posted yesterday in Gaming Mouse Vee III #1064 that he bought one recently, and captvizcenzo #1067 confirmed it's still RM49 at Sri Computer. Jolly good!
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i bought the sidewinder for 80++ last year.....
i can got half cheaper if i bought it this year...LOL
how come the price drop soo much??
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post Jan 19 2010, 09:58 PM

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me oso got same question,
still got promo for x3?
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post Jan 19 2010, 11:10 PM

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New owner of Sidewinder X3 reporting in.

Not sure about the Sri Comp, but guy who sell this RM110 for 2 unit is still at the garage sales. But I didn't really recommend this guy. Not quite prompt and my package (box) is a bit torn.

On the other hand, can I register my Sidewinder to Microsoft for the 3 years warranty even I didn't get receipt from seller? How to claim the warranty? In my case, i can't really find Sidewinder X3 from the drop-down-list at the registration page, in fact not even normal wired laser mouse from the option. How the heck am I suppose to register then?

Any help would highly appreciated. Thanks ~
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post Mar 7 2010, 12:33 PM

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whats the price of retail price for sidewinder mouse ? it sure looks cool but , im afraid it woundlt fit my nicely , and the price for x6 kb plese tq =D
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which model of sidewinder?

x6 now retails for roughly around RM230.
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post Mar 8 2010, 02:09 AM

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New Sidewinder X3 user reporting in. Got it for RM49 from Sri Computer. It took the crown of best for buck gaming mouse from MX518. Definitely a must buy for gamers.
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If anyone here owns the Sidewinder X6, can you check the PrtScn, ScrLk and Pause buttons for me? Mine seems to be slightly harder to press than the other buttons. It also seems to spring up slowly instead of immediately like my other buttons. Doesn't feel natural so I'm just checking.
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I'm a owner of Sidewinder X6 for one year and Sidewinder X5 for 6 month. The keyboard is very good and the absent of tilt feature doesn't really bug me that much. In my personal opinion, much more comfortable to type and play games with. As for the mouse, good clicking feedback and comfortable to use with my big hand. And also the 2 red lights below the mouse sure make the mouse more 'Darth Vaderly'...hehe...


Added on May 21, 2010, 3:57 pm
QUOTE(objectifyme @ May 21 2010 @ 12:10 PM)
If anyone here owns the Sidewinder X6, can you check the PrtScn, ScrLk and Pause buttons for me? Mine seems to be slightly harder to press than the other buttons. It also seems to spring up slowly instead of immediately like my other buttons. Doesn't feel natural so I'm just checking.

So far no problem occurred to me like you stated above.. The keys tactile feeling are just the same as other keys on the keyboard.

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QUOTE(apO? @ May 21 2010, 03:52 PM)
So far no problem occurred to me like you stated above.. The keys tactile feeling are just the same as other keys on the keyboard.
Well, it's fine now. Went over to Thundermatch to get it swapped. It works properly now. smile.gif
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