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TSmofonyx
post Apr 14 2009, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(tineagle @ Apr 14 2009, 06:11 PM)
Why is that so?
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It's generally _not_ recommended to do HIIT on the same day as the lift. You can find this info on the thread.

Why is this so? Well using common sense, HIIT is a workout on it's own. It's very strenous and taxing on the body. So are your lifts. If you perform HIIT before your lift you would deplete all your energy and have none left for the lift. Which can be potentially damaging (muscle wise and form wise). This is a deduction coming from the requirement of feeding your HIIT like any other workout. A pre/post-workout shake with HIIT ensures that you're not shredding away muscle when really what you want to get rid of is the fat, + all that hormonal benefit.

Doing HIIT post-workout, one can only imagine how that would be after a hard day of squatting it out! You'd probably be a bit catabolic by then. You would require pre-workout nutrition is so great (hard to imagine) that it can sustain a day of heavy squats following that, HIIT! Having a HIIT session post-lifting would be akin to doing HIIT fasted state, which is bad. There are people that suggest taking a shake after workouts to supplement the post-workout HIIT. But after that, another shake to feed HIIT? Sounds a bit over the top to me.

So that's my opinion on the matter. If you feel that you're benefiting doing HIIT on your lifting days then go ahead. You know what's best for your body. However, I strongly suggest otherwise.

This post has been edited by mofonyx: Apr 14 2009, 06:49 PM
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post Apr 14 2009, 06:46 PM

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tineagle,

if you can HIIT on ur lifting days - either ur not lifting hard enough or hiiting it hard enough wink.gif
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post Apr 14 2009, 07:27 PM

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i do cardio 3 times a day
each time 10 mins warm up on treadmill
30 mins run on crosstainer,30 mins on stationary bike flex.gif
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post Apr 14 2009, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Apr 14 2009, 02:16 PM)
zeist, er... i mean what type of cardio? high intensity? low intensity? how long is ur warmup / actual workout / cooldown? whats ur heart rate when doing the activity
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I do 3 - 4 mins walk at 6.0km/h, then jog at 9.0km/h for 5 mins, for 30 minutes. I don't check my heartrate. But highest was around 19x. This is just average intensity, I don't do 12.0km/h anymore.

I've decided to cut down until 80kg before I stop.


Added on April 14, 2009, 9:41 pm
QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Apr 14 2009, 01:54 PM)
lol, now become diet thread. you should put it in what u eat in every meal. say what you eat for breakfast, lunch, dinner. Try to do fasted cardio
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Breakfast = 5 eggs (1 whole), 2 whole grain meal breads, 250ml milk + 4 big spoons of oat

Lunch = 1 chicken breast, 1 apple

Pre-workout = 250ml milk blend with two 7" banana

Dinner = 1 steam fish, 5 egg whites, 150ml milk




This is what I eat everyday, do you think I eat too much? I don't think so. sad.gif


Added on April 14, 2009, 9:43 pm
QUOTE(tineagle @ Apr 14 2009, 06:11 PM)
Perhaps you're running on too much a calorie deficit?

Perhaps you should try adding a little more carbs, I suggest pasta.

Muscles don't grow on protein alone, carbs play an important role in adding and maintaining muscle.
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I do eat carbs but very small little amount. Pasta is good for slow digestion, and is a good carb. I need to adjust my food intake again.

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post May 12 2009, 01:24 PM

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how do u know i lost more fat than muscle?
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post May 12 2009, 02:09 PM

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check your bf percent every 1 or 2 week. If you are losing weight and your fat % remains, it means your are losing lean mass, if you are losing weight and your fat % reduce. That means you are also losing fat. Don't eat too low caloric deficit to prevent muscle loss.
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post May 12 2009, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(zeist @ Apr 14 2009, 10:39 PM)
I do 3 - 4 mins walk at 6.0km/h, then jog at 9.0km/h for 5 mins, for 30 minutes. I don't check my heartrate. But highest was around 19x. This is just average intensity, I don't do 12.0km/h anymore.

I've decided to cut down until 80kg before I stop.


Added on April 14, 2009, 9:41 pm

Breakfast = 5 eggs (1 whole), 2 whole grain meal breads, 250ml milk + 4 big spoons of oat

Lunch = 1 chicken breast, 1 apple

Pre-workout = 250ml milk blend with two 7" banana

Dinner = 1 steam fish, 5 egg whites, 150ml milk
This is what I eat everyday, do you think I eat too much? I don't think so.  sad.gif


Added on April 14, 2009, 9:43 pm

I do eat carbs but very small little amount. Pasta is good for slow digestion, and is a good carb. I need to adjust my food intake again.
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Your diet is horrible.

You eat 1 chicken breast and 1 apple for lunch? Wow. I weigh at least 18 kilos less and I eat even more than you.

I've said this once in your journal, but you got all defensive ; You live too much by the books. Cmon man, who eats 1 chicken breast and 1 apple for lunch.

Try cross-training, it is a good alternative if you want to loose your gut. Its either your start listening or you will end up being a depressed fat man.

This post has been edited by shanecross: May 12 2009, 03:44 PM
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post May 12 2009, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(shanecross @ May 12 2009, 03:43 PM)
Your diet is horrible.

You eat 1 chicken breast and 1 apple for lunch? Wow. I weigh at least 18 kilos less and I eat even more than you.

I've said this once in your journal, but you got all defensive ; You live too much by the books. Cmon man, who eats 1 chicken breast and 1 apple for lunch.

Try cross-training, it is a good alternative if you want to loose your gut. Its either your start listening or you will end up being a depressed fat man.
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he will say that he know wat is he doing.
just like how we commented on his ambitious attempt on heavy weights which most of us advise to go slower...
he even said wanted to deadlift 150-160kg. which... i not sure he done any or not. =.=
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post May 12 2009, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ May 12 2009, 02:09 PM)
check your bf percent every 1 or 2 week. If you are losing weight and your fat % remains, it means your are losing lean mass, if you are losing weight and your fat % reduce. That means you are also losing fat. Don't eat too low caloric deficit to prevent muscle loss.
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not necessarily. If your weight is lower, but bf % is the same, you could be losing water/bowel discharge..etc

The best way is to see the bf weight itself. Most machine tests will show you the weight of body fats in your body
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post May 12 2009, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(zeist @ Apr 14 2009, 10:39 PM)
I do 3 - 4 mins walk at 6.0km/h, then jog at 9.0km/h for 5 mins, for 30 minutes. I don't check my heartrate. But highest was around 19x. This is just average intensity, I don't do 12.0km/h anymore.

I've decided to cut down until 80kg before I stop.


Added on April 14, 2009, 9:41 pm

Breakfast = 5 eggs (1 whole), 2 whole grain meal breads, 250ml milk + 4 big spoons of oat

Lunch = 1 chicken breast, 1 apple

Pre-workout = 250ml milk blend with two 7" banana

Dinner = 1 steam fish, 5 egg whites, 150ml milk
This is what I eat everyday, do you think I eat too much? I don't think so.  sad.gif


Added on April 14, 2009, 9:43 pm

I do eat carbs but very small little amount. Pasta is good for slow digestion, and is a good carb. I need to adjust my food intake again.
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To much Fructose + To much Lactose = GAIN FAT !! Google it !!
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post May 12 2009, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(JonYeap @ May 12 2009, 06:42 PM)
he will say that he know wat is he doing.
just like how we commented on his ambitious attempt on heavy weights which most of us advise to go slower...
he even said wanted to deadlift 150-160kg. which... i not sure he done any or not. =.=
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Well, I just can't help but to say something whenever he says something silly.

 

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