im cumming lolololololol

lol look so gaaaayyy

They look so enjoying.

Nakata ive bought Fifa 10 .. i will say the game play have been very close to WE...and bad things about WE they have players running like crap..Seriously try on it

This post has been edited by beandy: Oct 5 2009, 11:48 AM

(sorry i cant find this in the orignal english copy)

《PES2010》参展GC2009，而国外著名媒体IGN首先发出了对游戏的试玩评测

　　Konami和EA之间看起来是相互尊敬的，但是各论坛关于两个游戏的论战却没有停止过。玩家们保护自己拥护的游戏就像在保护他们喜欢的俱乐部。然而，大部分的PES的狂热粉丝却不得不承认这个系列遇到了瓶颈，曾经在PS2平台上有无上荣耀的PES因为高冢新吾和他的制作小组无法在次世代中找到立足点而逐渐陨落——相反，正在复兴的FIFA，制作人David Rutter向人们展现出他们对真实性的渴望，他们逐渐的夺走了PES的王者地位
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　　并不是说PES系列已经无可救药了，回忆Konami从WE3开始的每一作，你会发现，他们首先提出的人球分离理念对于足球游戏有多么大的影响。然而，最近几年KONAMI几次公开对fans的道歉可以看出，他们自己都意识到这个系列已经一年不如一年了# T9 b8 i4 S' X& i
　　
　　但是从之前放出的视频和图片来看，PES 2010有希望回到过去的地位。我们已经在之前的前瞻中看到了今年的几个关键进步：回归基本的足球理念，摒弃过去华而不实的设定——新颖的自定义战术和王牌卡片系统能使他们有希望逐渐赶上FIFA，
　　
　　自从我们有机会玩到PES 2010，我们发现他和2009的变化是显而易见的。首先，画面得到了很大的提升——球员的肖像做的令人赞叹，终于不被FIFA系列甩在身后了。托雷斯，兰帕德和罗纳尔多看起来栩栩如生，就像真人一样，他们终于和上世代看起来矮小粗短的人物建模划分界限了，PES 2010的图像看起来远超他的任何一个前辈。
　　
　　我们依然发现各种各样的小瑕疵：在Konami总部我们发现，景深看起来做的太过头了，背景过于模糊。在早期版本中有时候会出现贴图错误，球员也会发现瞬移的现象，但是这些东西相信都会在10月的正式版中得到解决。如果他们解决了，相信PES 2010将会是系列中最优秀的一作
　　
　　另一个待解决的问题，PES系列的通病，看起来最难被解决，远远的落后于他的宿敌——FIFA：菜单的音效和愚蠢的摇滚风格音乐（其实这个我觉得还好，实况的菜单音效从4代开始就是这种风格了，大家已经习惯了，个人认为这也是他的特色。背景音乐，我觉得FIFA的大部分音乐也是摇滚风格的，这个我觉得是仁者见仁了——BY MCGHOST），当进行一场冠亚军决赛的时候，解说员Lawrenso的解说词没有什么变化，让人觉得乏味。音效从来都不是PES的强项——Konami谈及这点表示，2010的球迷部分会比以往发出更大的欢呼声。- `+ Z* e9 r( @- b$ p- w! l/ D' G1 ?
　　
　　今年的头号新特性是 360度控球系统——偷师于FIFA 10的新系统。这个新特性成功的使球员的盘带系统从过去八方向的禁锢中解放出来，使游戏看起来更有生机，当然，刚开始玩家会有些顾虑——从十字键操作变成摇杆操作会让人不适应——但是我相信等玩家适应了以后很快就会发现这个改进的好处，我们没有理由拒绝这个新的优点
　　
　　当然，这不意味着PES已经接近FIFA的真实级别。慢速带球（R2/RT）比去年设定的更慢，但是依然比FIFA还要快很多。确实，争论哪一款游戏玩起来更真实是多余的——除非你看过哪一场比赛的所有球员都是吃过一整瓶安非他命在比赛的囧- -///，我们不能否认PES用超极限的速度踢着真实的足球。球员的动作的真实性因为比赛节奏太快而被破坏，除了球夸张的物理系统以外，比赛一如既往的让人不舒服。自从PES 2010来到我们办公室以后，他为我们带了不少“欢声笑语”（这个是贬义的，自己理解）
　　
　　简单的尝试自定义战术和球员卡片系统，感觉好像通过不同的方式去做PES以前也能做到的事情。但是我们必须承认，他们成功的让球员的行为看起来更真实，球队的风格更容易贴近现实
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　　新的Master League系统我们尝试过后觉得比以前充实多了。必须承认，他们成功的完成了任务。我们尽力的克制住自己试玩了2个小时。这短短的2个小时，我们发现ML的进步是显而易见的。这些新的要素使整个ML模式看起来更吸引人，让人沉迷其中，这算是Konami对PES的FANS的报答。ML模式鼓励玩家对自己的球队进行一定程度的微观管理，从选择赞助商到监视青年队的成长。并且界面也被整洁的进行分门别类。看起来ML将会消耗玩家大量的时间了,如果要我们对PES 2010的试玩做出总结的话，答案是比过去的每一代更好玩。

I ad try the FIFA10 demo, this game really dint suit my type, just enjoy the game u like to play lah.

They look like they are enjoying themselves by banging each other at the back :-)

then translate lah for us who didn't understand the language above

wo pu ci tau..

basically its talking bout started from 08 FIFA already improve a lot n almost overtaken WE/PES..WE/PES is the winner in PS2 but FIFA is the winner in PS3 at the moment, cos KONAMI has lost their direction in PS3 & KONAMI admit that they're not taking enough effort on their WE/PES series n felt apologies to their supporter fans ,if they can solve for certain weakness in their game, "THE KING OF FOOTBALL GAME " is stil belong to KONAMI WE/PES..at the same time, FIFA has become more stronger due to its creative artwork inside..anyway, the editor still anticipated on PES/WES2010 & wait for release at least its still earlier to say which is good in this year..

P.S.i don like to being fanboy or fancy boy, im football enthusiats , i juz support exciting & fantastic football game..if FIFA can make it perfectly in the end n ifs gameplay is suit my taste, i will change to play FIFA with undoubt..( i think its impossible now at least )

wa come to WE/PES thread and ask ppl to convert to fifa.

Seriously those who used to post here are passionate lovers for WE/PES series gameplay. You are just wasting your time man

Don't start any unwanted war.
Im here as a football gamer fan and like i told you b4 i bought both.
Juz an opinion that Fifa10 have match almost everything that WE is ahead all this while.
Like the saying Fifa keep improving while WE just another WE edition.
Play to believe it.Dont be so stiff head.Just an advice

i've tried and play FIFA 2010 with my friend in my friend shop which located in sungeiwang plaza..the commentator n sound effect are excellent (like english premier league)but their players character organization is still weak like everyone are same, cant differeciate those player, overall is 'ok fine' for me , at least i wont play it more than 3 times..otherwise i'll feel bored..think the main reason is still their gameplay

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Added on October 5, 2009, 2:02 pmi played WE2010 demo 30 times..the only thing i don like in PES/WE2010 demo at the moment are the player move weird sometimes, player 'slide' dribbling sometimes, goalkeeper is acting 'stupid' many unnecessary mistakes..unlogical ball direction sometimes..
i'm so annoy with those bugs..hope it wil not happen in their final release on 5th November,im hoping so much in this game n hope it wont let me down

This post has been edited by wining1129: Oct 5 2009, 02:02 PM

I have also download fifa demo to test it bro. If i'm really a stubborn WE/PES supporter i wont even bother to dl fifa demo to try it out.

I play around 20 over match in fifa demo, some more also play with my mate and ask his opinion on the demo.

At last we both still prefer WE/PES gameplay more than fifa. I have try b4 and that is what i thought.

The few things i think fifa is good (from my point of view) are commentary (like ESPN livecast) and some good animations. ( i dont care about licensing part coz WE/PES also can dl a patch from other that made it like real life kit).

That's all. Whilst WE/PES still give me lot of passion and gameplay wise, WE/PES still miles ahead fifa (again that is my personal opinion). For the unpredictable scoring opportunity and individuality of each players you control, it give me more satisfaction whenever i win a tight match, which i can't feel in fifa.

Whatever it is, just play the game you like I just to let you know that those who usually post here are sharing the same feeling like me, thus would think fifa might not suit our style, so didn't mean to teasing you or what. Just enjoy the game you like, that's all

P/S: at least we share the same passion on supporting Arsenal right? I believe you do have the same excitement after watch yesterday match GO GO GUNNERS! IN ARSENE WE TRUST!!

i didn't download fifa10 at all coz i know its a waste of my time to even try it. from fifa road to world cup 98 to 2000 to 2009... its the same sucky game ever... same engine ... worse simulation of football ever... WHERE is the sense of feeling when u score a goal? Nothing zero

fifa improved? yeah rite... all they got is just their licensing... take that out..nobody will play it. americans can't make a proper football game, NFL they know lar

hey eric have a nice match with you last week

gonna have my revenge to you but overall we have a great game that night isnt it? I can see you are really improved a lot man, thumb up to you.

huhu i need to train back my skills, recently used too many times on U2 and LP2 demo

P/S: the same night also have a memorable match with effy. At the end draw 2-2. What a tense match

hey beandy..at least u know me, sean, nakata, ericpires, nagakeciks, the goonez n etc..still a die hard fans of WE/PES!! its not easy to persuade us to play fifa ..we stick in WE/PES until today must b a reason which FIFA don have..

Yeah, nice 2 games with u... haha

Don't play 2 much U2 and LP2 lor, rosak your `WE` play... hahaha

Can't wait for WE2010, 1 more month to go!

haha yeah 1 month to go babe

Remember guys we organize our own Champion League, or Community Online tournament later we get the game ya? I was also exited that i can play side-by-side with my cousin and online with your guys. Better be careful, our partnership are dangerous

P/S: eric you still owe me a co-op match in LP2, haha

u partner with ur cousin and play with us ?
wish that KONAMI online server really can do it