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Topace111
post Jun 10 2009, 09:57 AM

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Have you guys attend any Talk hosted by ACCA b4 & familiar with the registration procedure ?
Me & several friends are interested in joining the talk of "Improving Your Employability in the Current Economic Climate" this 13th june.

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post Jun 10 2009, 10:39 AM

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Is PTPTN loan available to apply at Kasturi?
And if doing part time study, will the PTPTN loan approve? Cause working at the same time..
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post Jun 10 2009, 10:40 AM

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[quote=`twinkles,Jun 7 2009, 09:47 PM]
I am always quite an okay student, but I am not sure whether I have the capability since this is my first time taking ACCA papers.
I don't understand this. What do you mean by I can take F and P papers together but in the second second, you mention that I cannot sit for P papers if I didn't pass my F papers?

for example F7 and p2,f6 and p6,f8 and p7,f5 and p4 and f9 and p4
u have to pass the F paper only take P paper. have to pass F7 then only u can take p2.
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post Jun 10 2009, 11:51 AM

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[quote=cheehwa,Jun 10 2009, 10:40 AM]
[quote=`twinkles,Jun 7 2009, 09:47 PM]
I am always quite an okay student, but I am not sure whether I have the capability since this is my first time taking ACCA papers.
I don't understand this. What do you mean by I can take F and P papers together but in the second second, you mention that I cannot sit for P papers if I didn't pass my F papers?

for example F7 and p2,f6 and p6,f8 and p7,f5 and p4 and f9 and p4
u have to pass the F paper only take P paper. have to pass F7 then only u can take p2.
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The rule only applies when you take optional paper. You cannot sit for optional unless you have finished all core paper or you are taking all your due core papers with optional.
Case 1 : take P1,P2,P3 & P4.
Case 2 : passed P1 & P2 so take P3, P4 & P5.

Most of the paper like F9 & p4 fall at same date so if you do not pass f9 how to take P4 at the same date. Actually if fail F9 chances are P4 will be even more daunting. You can sit for P papers eevn if you fail F papers but make sure they are not at the same date : audit & Pm is not. But tax & finance are.


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post Jun 10 2009, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Jun 10 2009, 10:57 AM)
Have you guys attend any Talk hosted by ACCA b4 & familiar with the registration procedure ?
Me & several friends are interested in joining the talk of "Improving Your Employability in the Current Economic Climate" this 13th june.
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i think im going that too...

well normally is nid to register within certain period..
but for this coming talk, it din mention anything.
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post Jun 10 2009, 02:49 PM

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At first I thought it was free admission since it didnt display any admission charge.
When I email them they said you need to pay RM 70 for admission so I gve up on it.
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post Jun 10 2009, 03:11 PM

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IS KSA good for CAT course?anyone from kasturi?
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post Jun 10 2009, 03:22 PM

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Okay, firstly thanks for all the suggestions here smile.gif

[quote=kelvinbadroyal,Jun 9 2009, 10:53 PM]
if you are studying at sunway, never take f8 and p1 together, the combination of these 2 papers in the exam are not encouraged. even though f8's syallabus crosses over P1 syllabus, however, the chances of passing both papers are 50:50 only. or, u can only survive in f8 but fail in p1 or vice versa. this is because the application of p1's knowledge in f8 paper might result in serious mistake made, unless you are SMART enough.
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I am not in Sunway, will enrol in Kasturi...but I do understand what you are trying to tell me. It is like I may learn more than what I need for F8 in P1 and apply it wrongly in F8, is this what you meant? smile.gif

[quote=icyblue,Jun 10 2009, 08:49 AM]
f6- tax. it's relatively easywhen u take mys variant,but u also have to be knew core areas of theory(i remember i get a 60 ++ pass just bcos i dont have a good knowledge on some theories)
f7-u really have to be strong here-at least for p2 purpose
f8- really a lot of work-not just memorise also practices to make u really understand audit.for first.if you are first timer you better get a lecturer who can make you really understand the topic,especially if you never touch actual audit before.
maybe write a list of what qualities you want in your lecturer:eg simplified notes,talk about actual experience,good memorisation techniques,systematic etc

f9-it's 50 calc 50% theory-so there's some areas to memorise

but i suggest u look the syllabus at accaglobal.for f9 it's financial and f7 is reporting standards.u can look this through the internet or a library.

it really depends.get a good mix of heavy memorise and practice,a 50/50,calculation mix.

from a f8 second-timer and p1 -first timer perspective
( i take f8 & p1 together)
hmm...i remember i barely understand corporate governance while i take f8 for first time.it was just lucky that my exams does not came on that topic.then i take p1,and i start to know more about it,as f8 is quite summarised on corporate governance.
(provided that u really listen to that topic at class and you understand it.)
and p1 is more easier to understand compared to f8,especially if u have this two papers taught by the same lecturer(personally thinking smile.gif )
cons: there are some areas u really need to answer in that paper format(eg f8 question-f8 format ie audit ).i remember a question about controls in which areas in a company-in p1 paper,and the answer required cannot in f8 format
as what they says above

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So which paper do you think I should be taking? Well, for lecturers, I am okay with lecturers who wants us to memorize but a lecturer with good notes and explanation will be the best.

[quote=cheehwa,Jun 10 2009, 10:40 AM]
[quote=`twinkles,Jun 7 2009, 09:47 PM]
I am always quite an okay student, but I am not sure whether I have the capability since this is my first time taking ACCA papers.
I don't understand this. What do you mean by I can take F and P papers together but in the second second, you mention that I cannot sit for P papers if I didn't pass my F papers?

for example F7 and p2,f6 and p6,f8 and p7,f5 and p4 and f9 and p4
u have to pass the F paper only take P paper. have to pass F7 then only u can take p2.

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Got it notworthy.gif

[quote=Topace111,Jun 10 2009, 11:51 AM]
The rule only applies when you take optional paper. You cannot sit for optional unless you have finished all core paper or you are taking all your due core papers with optional.
Case 1 : take P1,P2,P3 & P4.
Case 2 : passed P1 & P2 so take P3, P4 & P5.

Most of the paper like F9 & p4 fall at same date so if you do not pass f9 how to take P4 at the same date. Actually if fail F9 chances are P4 will be even more daunting. You can sit for P papers eevn if you fail F papers but make sure they are not at the same date : audit & Pm is not. But tax & finance are.

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So you mention that tax and finance have the same date of exam, which means, F6 and F9 will fall on the same exam date?

This post has been edited by `twinkles: Jun 10 2009, 03:30 PM
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post Jun 10 2009, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Jun 10 2009, 03:49 PM)
At first I thought it was free admission since it didnt display any admission charge.
When I email them they said you need to pay RM 70 for admission so I gve up on it.
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ou..then r..i dun think i go lo.hee
thanks for the info..^^


Added on June 10, 2009, 3:31 pm
QUOTE(deff @ Jun 10 2009, 04:11 PM)
IS KSA good for CAT course?anyone from kasturi?
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I guess is ok..since there are ppl who pass from KSA

This post has been edited by kuntaker: Jun 10 2009, 03:31 PM
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post Jun 10 2009, 04:21 PM

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Question about KSA:

I just saw the timetable and it seems there aren't that many classes. Is the teaching there like a tuition or the really teach you?

I was a student at Kasturi when I was taking my PMR. It was great but a tuition. So I was wondering, how the method of teaching is being conducted in ACCA course?

Thank you
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post Jun 10 2009, 04:31 PM

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Jackson Chan or Philip Woo better for F8? And I saw the timetable for Philip Woo class covers from 2pm-9.30pm? I thought each lecture only last for 3 hours?
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post Jun 10 2009, 04:34 PM

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P1 ---> Phillip Woo? Parmindar Singh?

Which one is recommended? Reason?

Your sharing will be much appreciated smile.gif
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post Jun 10 2009, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(`twinkles @ Jun 10 2009, 05:31 PM)
Jackson Chan or Philip Woo better for F8? And I saw the timetable for Philip Woo class covers from 2pm-9.30pm? I thought each lecture only last for 3 hours?
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well philip woo class is because of he only come on weekend therefore he combine the class for 2 class become 1 class..


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post Jun 10 2009, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(kuntaker @ Jun 10 2009, 05:42 PM)
well philip woo class is because of he only come on weekend therefore he combine the class for 2 class become 1 class..
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But I thought we only need to attend 3 hours lecture per week? I am kind of confused here....or 3 hours for full time student and another 3 more hours for part time students?
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post Jun 10 2009, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(`twinkles @ Jun 10 2009, 06:18 PM)
But I thought we only need to attend 3 hours lecture per week? I am kind of confused here....or 3 hours for full time student and another 3 more hours for part time students?
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Normally its 3 hours per week separating into normal & part time since a lot of students. Phillip Woo is also working so is only free during weekends. Since normally no people will be working on weekends they can come to class also. So he combined both classes & teach all one short. Normally its 2 week once.


Added on June 10, 2009, 7:12 pm
QUOTE(jactval @ Jun 10 2009, 04:34 PM)
P1 ---> Phillip Woo? Parmindar Singh?

Which one is recommended? Reason?

Your sharing will be much appreciated  smile.gif
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P1 got touch a little bit on audit area which is why many audit lecturers teaching P1. I dont see any application of IT in P1 so i dont know how Parmindar can greatly help students with his competitive advantage in P3. Anyway for P1 any lecturer can do as long as they stick to syllabus.


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QUOTE(hurly @ Jun 10 2009, 04:21 PM)
Question about KSA:

I just saw the timetable and it seems there aren't that many classes. Is the teaching there like a tuition or the really teach you?

I was a student at Kasturi when I was taking my PMR. It was great but a tuition. So I was wondering, how the method of teaching is being conducted in ACCA course?

Thank you
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If you want loads of classes & constant practice then you should go sunway for early level papers. The lecturers there really know how to grind you for result. Provided you have plenty of money of course.

That kasturi is tuition centre, the one for ACCA is called KSA which is at 11 & 12th floor of Plaza nationwide which is also directly behind kasturi tution centre. Yep exactly like a tution centre : lots of students in a cramped environment, one lecturer handling hundreds of students,.....etc.
I wouldn't recommend going there unless for advance paper where you need speciallist lecturer.

Method of teaching :
I need to explain this in depth since this is the area many are confused especially newbies.
ACCA is a professional body in England.
ACCA hold exams which is published by England examiner
ACCA allows student to take their ACCA paper outside UK like Malaysia
ACCA DO NOT teach student

Therefore there are 3 modes to study under acca :
- self study : this is the original method & widely used by working students & those who have already sat but failed.

- college / university based : this is where the student take all the paper at one place for convenience & economics (discounts for bulk), this method is rare outside England since there is no one perfect place that can cater all the lecturers yet (good ones)

- lecturer based : This is the primary mode for most students. Since there are no law prohibit student from taking each paper with different lecturer & centres, students can select the best lecturer in the field for their respective paper. Imagine a racing car which uses Mercedes engine, ferrari capacitor, bridgestone tyres....etc. Student have 100% freedom tho choose whoeevr they want.

I have attend more than 10 different lecturer under 5 different centre & its perfectly normal (in KL at least).

Methods of teaching vary b lecturer so if you want a experienced lecturer or caucasian lecturer or handsome lecturer (believe me some girls rclxub.gif ) do. Thats why you can read from some recent post why they ask opinions about different lecturers.

This post has been edited by Topace111: Jun 10 2009, 07:29 PM
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Hello...May I ask for F8 Philip Woo better or Jackson Chan?? anyone attended their classes b4??
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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Jun 10 2009, 07:10 PM)
Normally its 3 hours per week separating into normal & part time since a lot of students. Phillip Woo is also working so is only free during weekends. Since normally no people will be working on weekends they can come to class also. So he combined both classes & teach all one short. Normally its 2 week once.


Added on June 10, 2009, 7:12 pm

P1 got touch a little bit on audit area which is why many audit lecturers teaching P1. I dont see any application of IT in P1 so i dont know how Parmindar can greatly help students with his competitive advantage in P3. Anyway for P1 any lecturer can do as long as they stick to syllabus.


Added on June 10, 2009, 7:29 pm

If you want loads of classes & constant practice then you should go sunway for early level papers. The lecturers there really know how to grind you for result. Provided you have plenty of money of course.

That kasturi is tuition centre, the one for ACCA is called KSA which is at 11 & 12th floor of Plaza nationwide which is also directly behind kasturi tution centre. Yep exactly like a tution centre : lots of students in a cramped environment, one lecturer handling hundreds of students,.....etc.
I wouldn't recommend going there unless for advance paper where you need speciallist lecturer.

Method of teaching :
I need to explain this in depth since this is the area many are confused especially newbies.
ACCA is a professional body in England.
ACCA hold exams which is published by England examiner
ACCA allows student to take their ACCA paper outside UK like Malaysia
ACCA DO NOT teach student

Therefore there are 3 modes to study under acca :
- self study : this is the original method & widely used by working students & those who have already sat but failed.

- college / university based : this is where the student take all the paper at one place for convenience & economics (discounts for bulk), this method is rare outside England since there is no one perfect place that can cater all the lecturers yet (good ones)

- lecturer based : This is the primary mode for most students. Since there are no law prohibit student from taking each paper with different lecturer & centres, students can select the best lecturer in the field for their respective paper. Imagine a racing car which uses Mercedes engine, ferrari capacitor, bridgestone tyres....etc. Student have 100% freedom tho choose whoeevr they want.

I have attend more than 10 different lecturer under 5 different centre & its perfectly normal (in KL at least).

Methods of teaching vary b lecturer so if you want a experienced lecturer or caucasian lecturer or handsome lecturer (believe me some girls  rclxub.gif ) do. Thats why you can read from some recent post why they ask opinions about different lecturers.
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Really, seriously thank you sooooo much. That really helps. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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Omg, I just got the news that Mr. Michael Manwarring teaching P3 in INTI. Got July, August intake also. I didnt know he will teach full sem here. Last time revision only. rclxms.gif
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hello, noob here. pls recommend me the best place to study the final level of acca (the last five papers)? planning to do part time. thanks!
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Is Jackson Chan okay for F8? I heard that philip Woo is much better but his timetable is really not that suitable for me...

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