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carlosandy
post Jun 9 2009, 01:39 PM

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Check for Time table for MCO, Sheila will teach P7 normal class for Dec 09 sitting, but only Full Time. Alamak, how come arrangement like that? MCO should know a lot of P7 student also part time.

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post Jun 9 2009, 01:54 PM

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Hi aLL~~
Im going to study for the 2 papers before enter the ACCA course which is age 21 with no formal academic qualification (Mature Student Entry Route).
Is Kasturi School Of Accountancy. They sugges me to take this paper cause im going to be 23,do not waste time to study CAT anymore. Straight forward to ACCA, but u should pass this 2 papers before enter. But i already quit out from the spm since 2004, because of the financial problems. Even i got a good result for the account, but i already forgotten all the skills for account. Im worry that i cant follow up .Did anyone done this 2 papers before? Is it very hard ? pls give me your opinion. Thanks
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QUOTE(`twinkles @ Jun 9 2009, 10:33 AM)
So I have decided to take three papers for my upcoming ACCA exam. Which paper should I take from F6-F9? Someone suggested me to take F6, F7 and F9 together because F8 and P1 is related and so I could take F8 and P1 together. Anymore suggestions?
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P2 will undergo a new change in syllabus for Dec 09 sitting onwards. So its best to take F7 first so F7 will be ranked no 1.

Audit should be ranked 2nd since clearing this paper first will clear a lot of hurdles later on. Don't be fooled by this paper pass rates as it was once the killing paper in old syllabus & more than 3 / 4 of my friends that failed their acca papers all have failed audit at least once. I knew more than 4 person who have stuck at 49. Its true that P1 have some overlapping areas with F8 but only on internal audit & its a small chapter only. F8 audit focuses more on external audit.

I would suggest taking tax first since tax only requires practice & hardwork.

F6 : Bound to asked company tax, personal tax or JA & some tax admin area.
F7 : Guarantee asked consol as qs 1, published a/c as qs 2 & cashflow / ratio as qs 3. Last 2 qs on standards so if you practice should be easy.
F8 : Bound to ask SP & / or TOC, then some audit procedures......

F9 hard to predict & trend is not fixed so I recommend you not to take this one first.
By the way what happened to F4 & F5 ?
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post Jun 9 2009, 02:47 PM

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Hi.. I'm a degree student.. i left F8, P1 P2 P3 and 2 optional papers. I didnt have any fundamental in F7. it's alright for me straight to P2?? or maybe i should get some tuition on F7 1st?? any suggestion?? and can I take F8 P1 P3 at the same sitting??
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post Jun 9 2009, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Jun 9 2009, 01:54 PM)
P2 will undergo a new change in syllabus for Dec 09 sitting onwards. So its best to take F7 first so F7 will be ranked no 1.

Audit should be ranked 2nd since clearing this paper first will clear a lot of hurdles later on. Don't be fooled by this paper pass rates as it was once the killing paper in old syllabus & more than 3 / 4 of my friends that failed their acca papers all have failed audit at least once. I knew more than 4 person who have stuck at 49. Its true that P1 have some overlapping areas with F8 but only on internal audit & its a small chapter only. F8 audit focuses more on external audit.

I would suggest taking tax first since tax only requires practice & hardwork.

F6 : Bound to asked company tax, personal tax or JA & some tax admin area.
F7 : Guarantee asked consol as qs 1, published a/c as qs 2 & cashflow / ratio as qs 3. Last 2 qs on standards so if you practice should be easy.
F8 : Bound to ask SP & / or TOC, then some audit procedures......

F9 hard to predict & trend is not fixed so I recommend you not to take this one first.
By the way what happened to F4 & F5 ?
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what new changes in syllabus in p2?

is there any syllabus changes in p1 since last 1 1/2yr? i wan to self study...


Added on June 9, 2009, 3:06 pmthanks alot...

oh my... p3 tomorrow... sweat.gif hope i can BS through it.

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post Jun 9 2009, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(n406 @ Jun 9 2009, 02:47 PM)
Hi.. I'm a degree student.. i left F8, P1 P2 P3 and 2 optional papers. I didnt have any fundamental in F7. it's alright for me straight to P2?? or maybe i should get some tuition on F7 1st?? any suggestion?? and can I take F8 P1 P3 at the same sitting??
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P2 examiner assumes student have strong grasp in F7 b4 venturing into P2. I have met other degree students on this route & even that F7 is considered more thorough than their degree. Anyway some can handle P2 without F7 too but that depends on individual. Try to look back at past year question for F7. If you can handle it then its safe to venture into P2.

You can take F8, P1 & P3 at the same sitting.


Added on June 9, 2009, 3:37 pm
QUOTE(littlediana @ Jun 9 2009, 03:05 PM)
what new changes in syllabus in p2?

is there any syllabus changes in p1 since last 1 1/2yr? i wan to self study...


Added on June 9, 2009, 3:06 pmthanks alot...

oh my... p3 tomorrow... sweat.gif hope i can BS through it.
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For theory paper they rarely undergo changes.
P2 will fully incorporate the changes of NCI in Dec 09 which means examiner can fully test the area that NCI deeply affect like consol.

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Thank you topace111. what if i take F8 P1 P2 at the same sitting??? will it be heavy?? which option is better??
A) F8 P1 P3
B) F8 P1 P2
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post Jun 9 2009, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Jun 9 2009, 01:54 PM)
P2 will undergo a new change in syllabus for Dec 09 sitting onwards. So its best to take F7 first so F7 will be ranked no 1.

Audit should be ranked 2nd since clearing this paper first will clear a lot of hurdles later on. Don't be fooled by this paper pass rates as it was once the killing paper in old syllabus & more than 3 / 4 of my friends that failed their acca papers all have failed audit at least once. I knew more than 4 person who have stuck at 49. Its true that P1 have some overlapping areas with F8 but only on internal audit & its a small chapter only. F8 audit focuses more on external audit.

I would suggest taking tax first since tax only requires practice & hardwork.

F6 : Bound to asked company tax, personal tax or JA & some tax admin area.
F7 : Guarantee asked consol as qs 1, published a/c as qs 2 & cashflow / ratio as qs 3. Last 2 qs on standards so if you practice should be easy.
F8 : Bound to ask SP & / or TOC, then some audit procedures......

F9 hard to predict & trend is not fixed so I recommend you not to take this one first.
By the way what happened to F4 & F5 ?
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Okay, I will take your word for it. I am a diploma student so I got exempted until F5 biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Jun 9 2009, 03:35 PM)
P2 examiner assumes student have strong grasp in F7 b4 venturing into P2. I have met other degree students on this route & even that F7 is considered more thorough than their degree. Anyway some can handle P2 without F7 too but that depends on individual. Try to look back at past year question for F7. If you can handle it then its safe to venture into P2.

You can take F8, P1 & P3 at the same sitting.


Added on June 9, 2009, 3:37 pm

For theory paper they rarely undergo changes.
P2 will fully incorporate the changes of NCI in Dec 09 which means examiner can fully test the area that NCI deeply affect like consol.
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oh so no changes in p1 ok thanks


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post Jun 9 2009, 05:53 PM

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how's p2 tis sem.... wink.gif
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post Jun 9 2009, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Byrop @ Jun 9 2009, 05:53 PM)
how's p2 tis sem.... wink.gif
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The exam haven't finish yet. Another 8 to 10 minutes thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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erm. resit p2. taking next sitting. keith farmer, joe fang or haneef? requirement:patient, approachable, not egoistic. most of the acca lecturer think they are god and refuse to explain further and expect student to understand their own very farking notes!
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QUOTE(help me please @ Jun 9 2009, 06:24 PM)
erm. resit p2. taking next sitting. keith farmer, joe fang or haneef? requirement:patient, approachable, not egoistic. most of the acca lecturer think they are god and refuse to explain further and expect student to understand their own very farking notes!
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U jst step out frm exam centre?


Added on June 9, 2009, 6:32 pmJst called my fren..P2 qs com out..conso piece meal acq..opt qs got impairment.theory qs quite easy,it is employee benefit and revenue recog..

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post Jun 9 2009, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(hurly @ Jun 7 2009, 06:42 PM)
I'm just asking, a stupid question. I am currently very interested in ACCA and what does it takes to perform well in ACCA?

I have asked around, it's a tough exam. Tough and hard is relative. Some people find it tough and some pass it well. Does hardwork rewards well in ACCA?

What should I be prepared for?

Thanks for the thread. Really nice infos here and there.
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Hi, anything where u put ur effort at, u will surely be rewarded. Same goes with ACCA exams.

Read, memorise, understand, read business news, discuss with friends, lecturers, are all steps u can take to increase chances of passing.
Most importantly, strenghten ur english language if u are weak in it. It helps alot in ACCA.




Btw guys, hows P2 today? I heard next sem many part of the syllabus will undergo changes. Goodluck for those attempting P3 tomoro! icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on June 9, 2009, 7:04 pm
QUOTE(help me please @ Jun 9 2009, 06:24 PM)
erm. resit p2. taking next sitting. keith farmer, joe fang or haneef? requirement:patient, approachable, not egoistic. most of the acca lecturer think they are god and refuse to explain further and expect student to understand their own very farking notes!
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Lol Menon is it? Ull have to find the right time before approaching her, haha.

But then again, I rely alot on friends for different interpretations, discuss about it, then if cannot agree on an answer, or still uncertain, find her. She will be glad to know u are at least thinking and discussing about an issue.

But yeah, if I were to resit, I will certainly not take under the same lecturer again. Maybe try different approach.

GOodluck!

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how about P2 exams?
Anyone here back from P2?
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post Jun 9 2009, 07:47 PM

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F7 conso & ratio analysis part very tricky...
A lot of time had been spent on there. Q5 left blank sad.gif
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post Jun 9 2009, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(help me please @ Jun 9 2009, 06:24 PM)
erm. resit p2. taking next sitting. keith farmer, joe fang or haneef? requirement:patient, approachable, not egoistic. most of the acca lecturer think they are god and refuse to explain further and expect student to understand their own very farking notes!
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Thats a very funny username by the way.
Ok since I have gathered surveys for the lecturers you mentioned I will share my experience & opinion here.
Warning : There are no perfect lecturer on this world so we can only measure based on comparison.

Menon :
Since you have mentioned explicitly that you dont like her methods I will stop here for convenience sake.

Haneef :
He is god damn patient : He will answer every student even 45 minutes after class time.
Approachable : You dont need to ask him since he will ask you back question during class. Just be prepared for it.
Egoistic : He never praise himself like Daniel Ho or criticise other lecturers (some KSA lecturer). He is the most humbel lecturer I ever met.
Technically I was a bit surprised since everything you mentioned "hit on the spot" for this lecturer.

However he is deemed very boring by many including Mr Carlo tongue.gif . But for resit student many will appreciate his style.
If you are weak on theories & standards he will be the perfect person to illustrate it to you.
The only problem you many find is that he can talk non stop the professional style, so if you are easily asleep person please stop reading this instant.
Since you can afford sunway he will be peanuts tongue.gif

For keith farmer you can refer to Carlosandy for more information.
For reasons unknown very few study under Joe Fang for P2 & even lesser willing to share more info so find out on your own.

If you want to know more in detail you can pm me directly since I can go on forever but I respect others here. icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on June 9, 2009, 8:02 pm
QUOTE(Raymond_ACCA @ Jun 9 2009, 07:01 PM)
Hi, anything where u put ur effort at, u will surely be rewarded. Same goes with ACCA exams.

Read, memorise, understand, read business news, discuss with friends, lecturers, are all steps u can take to increase chances of passing.
Most importantly, strenghten ur english language if u are weak in it. It helps alot in ACCA.
Btw guys, hows P2 today? I heard next sem many part of the syllabus will undergo changes. Goodluck for those attempting P3 tomoro!  icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on June 9, 2009, 7:04 pm

Lol Menon is it? Ull have to find the right time before approaching her, haha.

But then again, I rely alot on friends for different interpretations, discuss about it, then if cannot agree on an answer, or still uncertain, find her. She will be glad to know u are at least thinking and discussing about an issue.

But yeah, if I were to resit, I will certainly not take under the same lecturer again. Maybe try different approach.

GOodluck!
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hey how about your own exam. I took totally opposite optional papers compared to you. May be joining you in workforce soon. tongue.gif

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I'm going to study F9 next semester. Any recomendation I should follow which Lecturer?
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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Jun 9 2009, 01:54 PM)
P2 will undergo a new change in syllabus for Dec 09 sitting onwards. So its best to take F7 first so F7 will be ranked no 1.

Audit should be ranked 2nd since clearing this paper first will clear a lot of hurdles later on. Don't be fooled by this paper pass rates as it was once the killing paper in old syllabus & more than 3 / 4 of my friends that failed their acca papers all have failed audit at least once. I knew more than 4 person who have stuck at 49. Its true that P1 have some overlapping areas with F8 but only on internal audit & its a small chapter only. F8 audit focuses more on external audit.

I would suggest taking tax first since tax only requires practice & hardwork.

F6 : Bound to asked company tax, personal tax or JA & some tax admin area.
F7 : Guarantee asked consol as qs 1, published a/c as qs 2 & cashflow / ratio as qs 3. Last 2 qs on standards so if you practice should be easy.
F8 : Bound to ask SP & / or TOC, then some audit procedures......

F9 hard to predict & trend is not fixed so I recommend you not to take this one first.
By the way what happened to F4 & F5 ?
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Dear Topace111,

I have few Q to ask u...

1. I plan to take P1, P2 & P3 next semester. Would it be a big burden taking this 3 papers together since they r tough? N the exam r 3 continuous days...

2. What r the main changes in P2? Is it a major difference from the F7 i studied this sem?

3. I am a student who don't prefer memorizing... So i would like to ask ur suggestion as which lecturer should i choose for my P1 & P3?

Thx a lot... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Jun 9 2009, 08:00 PM)

Haneef :
He is god damn patient : He will answer every student even 45 minutes after class time.
Approachable : You dont need to ask him since he will ask you back question during class. Just be prepared for it.
Egoistic : He never praise himself like Daniel Ho or criticise other lecturers (some KSA lecturer). He is the most humbel lecturer I ever met.
Technically I was a bit surprised since everything you mentioned "hit on the spot" for this lecturer.

However he is deemed very boring by many including Mr Carlo  tongue.gif . But for resit student many will appreciate his style.
If you are weak on theories & standards he will be the perfect person to illustrate it to you.
The only problem you many find is that he can talk non stop the professional style, so if you are easily asleep person please stop reading this instant.
Since you can afford sunway he will be peanuts  tongue.gif

For keith farmer you can refer to Carlosandy for more information.
For reasons unknown very few study under Joe Fang for P2 & even lesser willing to share more info so find out on your own.

If you want to know more in detail you can pm me directly since I can go on forever but I respect others here.  icon_rolleyes.gif
I think he is the only lecturer who uses 6 hours to finish on the Deferred Tax chapter (I mean, he covers on every single details. No offense though)
What can i say? A good lecturer smile.gif

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