Haha... yeah, I *try* to cook like 3-4 times in a week but most of the days I just eat out cause too lazy to cook.

The Seishun 18 Kippu doesn't apply to shinkansen so you'll need to plan your itinerary properly or you'll end up spending precious time commuting on the slow local trains between Kyoto->Tokyo when you can be sight-seeing. Perhaps Firedauz can give you better pointers.

100 000 is consider low expenditure in tokyo?

when r u coming????

urm ..hard to say.. definitely can go lower. as ppl here have said. it just depends on how comfortable u want to be and how good r u at finding good deals.

Ganbatte ne!

If you are on a tight deadline, its best that you take the Shinkansen.
Traveling between prefectures is the one that will take most of the time.
This Seishun 18 Kippu usually applies to those who are strong enough to travel long distance, using the slow JR train.

I've checked from Hyperdia, the difference in length of time for Tokyo <--> Kyoto traveling are:
Shinkansen: 2 hours ++
JR Rail: 13 hours ++

However, I'm not saying its not possible.
If you know yourself that you can persevere, then this is what I advise:

See?
It's a rough plan, but yeah, it's do-able.

BUT!

Assuming that you might not be fluent in Japanese language, how sure are you that you can find your way through the puzzle train lines from Tokyo - Kyoto - Tokyo?
Of course, I think the train stations would have English spelling names, but still, even I might find it hard (because my sense of directions are also bad lol).

So this is why I would suggest either take the expensive Shinkansen.
Or maybe just the cheap bus.
Buses are cheaper than the Seishun 18 Kippu (around 4000 Yen++ per destination) but it travels as slow as the JR Rails (or maybe slightly faster... just slightly).

Using JR Rail, at those time of night travel, you might have to switch trains, which means more added confusion of trying to figure out where you are at that time LOL
At least with bus, you KNOW you are going to reach your destination directly non-stop (they'll stop occasionally for their customers to buy food or go toilet).
However, I dare not say more on bus because I've never taken a bus to travel long distance.
The furthest bus ride I went was from Shibuya to Mt. Fuji, but that was on a tour group.

This post has been edited by firedauz: Jul 3 2009, 08:29 PM

Tolong Ambil Perhatian Ya! (hehehe thanks Fire)

speaking of Mt Fuji, climbing season is starting soon. im planning to climb on 20th this month. hopefully the weather will be fine. already started to practice climbing other smaller mountains around here.

Emm..Japan domestic Flight also cheap...Most Japan people like travel by plane rather than Shinkansen. Can you see the domestik flight from tokyo to osaka , kyoto , kansai , chitose all by flight more. Japan is the only in world domestik flight need using B747 and B777 to fly domestik...too much passenger

I at Narita i saw once very shocking time table on airport

JAL 12.30pm flight from Narita to Kansai got 4 gate....4 JAL B747 from narita flight to Kansai same time...taking 1600 people
ANA 12.30pm Flight from narita to Kansai got 3 gate ...2 B777 1 B747 from narita to Kansai same time..taking 1200 people

total 2800 Japanese are fliging at 12.30 from narita to Kansai at 12.30pm........it still got 1.30 2.30 same amount.....Japan people flight like Gila!!!!

This post has been edited by RegentCid: Jul 3 2009, 09:46 PM

actually night trains , im assuming moonlight nagara from tokyo-nagoya doesnt require to change trains. personally i prefer buses. if u book early ,its even cheaper.

i agree. when i flew from osaka/itami to chitose, i was so shocked to be sitting on a 777

LOL ...japan people traveling they first choice is fast ...2nd only the price....the speed of travel is more importnant than the cost of ticket..

Time is money...they shinkashen never been late before LOL so far i seat 3 tiems 3 tiems never late....100% on time on the dock

This one I agree

Almost all of my Japanese friends choose speed over ticket price.

well, abg tanoshi share your surviving budget? sharelah utk kawan2 yang nak pergi mencuba nasib...

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Added on July 3, 2009, 10:52 pmCid,
i think, its not up to 9 times but less than that.
KL/Msian groceries prices are f***ed up after the RM2.70/ltr petrol.

tokyo : burger set : 600yen = RM20
KL : burger set : at least RM10

tokyo : fresh milk : 150yen = RM6
KL : fresh milk : RM4.50

cigarettes? refer tanoshi.

but on raw food materials, definitely KL is cheaper. but i totally agree that if u work in kl, cannot save money. work in oversea (i.e tokyo) still can bring back some savings.

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Added on July 3, 2009, 10:55 pmagree on the bus. took bus when i went kusatsu gunma .

bus : 4hrs oneway : 4500yen return
train : 3hrs : 6000yen one way.

This post has been edited by keii-kun: Jul 3 2009, 10:55 PM

Nice! All the best and remember to take lots of photos to share~

adusssssssssss
gua panas la plak tengok gambar 'atas katil' dameeeeek jyaaaaaaaaaan !

Wooah you punya mata memang kuat, macamana boleh teka atas katil

I plan to go hokkaido end of year holiday. What airline is the cheapest for penang to hokkaido? any tips on how to save airfare since u guys are the experts in japan

hehe

There is no plane from Penang Direct to Hokkaido

Penang to KLIA By MAS > Kansai By JAL > Chitose by JAL / ANA
Penang to Changi By SIA > Chitose By SIA
Penang to HK by Cathey > Chitose by Cathey

Along this 3 ...going by Cathey is most cheapest....becasue HK people liek go hokkaido too..the flight is so many and price is cheap also

The Turn around time in airport also the Shortest by Cathey in HK

Plus From Penang to HK flight always have from monday to Sunday 7am Flight...also most early flight...GG so mostly early go there...GG

Go there by End of year means DEC...winter time....emm NO Lavender to see plus everday winter storm...go Hokkaido at DEC is no good plus Tons of Delay at airport Due Snow Storm and those aircraft also hard to landing need circle around airport alot times only can landing...very tired la!!! Sienz

IT is same like you go Tioman Island at Raning season only...you know the meaning?

This post has been edited by RegentCid: Jul 4 2009, 11:57 PM

Today at Nakano Broadway, they kept playing MJ songs at each shops I went

LOL got buy his DVD or CD or not? Buy his Bluray MTV

ok thanks.. then ill look up the HK route.. do you think rm 3k is enough for the two way flight?