My coach is a former Chinese national athlete.....and he's right now a coach in Malacca.
We discussed today, about the state of training in Malaysia. And thanks to a friend's suggestion to have a workshop, we thought since we're educated in this field, why not? We can dispel a lot of silly "Bro-science" with proven training science.



I just wanna see the response. Also how much would you pay for a 3 hour seminar + 1 hour Q/A. Refreshments provided.
I'm thinking since people are payin RM120/hour for personal trainers, we're just gauging how much can we charge.
It'll be 1-3. I'll attend to 3 lifters, my coach the other 3. I know nobody would be interested in me, so we plan to circle it around.

This will be our guinea pigs, so to speak. But of course we'll be planning everything and discussing with other trainers and coaches about how to run a good one first. This is all in planning stages, and will probably be at least till June before we can start it.

The only not so nice part, is can only be done in Melaka. I wish we could use the Bkt Jalil facility but the costs are RIDICULOUSLY high if we wanted to rent it for a day from the sports council. And the amount of strings I'd have to pull, will probably string to England.

If it's in Melaka....it'll be RM60-70 for gas and toll+fees

Also we'll only be taking 6 people at a time, because we cannot have too many. It'd be hard to focus on each person. This is a very rough draft...but we hope to make it happen.

Do tell us.

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: May 20 2009, 04:10 PM

wow, its great that you take the effort to initiate this plan! its great to see such pro-activeness from you as a mod ^^

btw, ur coach is so small yet he can lift crazy numbers! its amazing what the human body can do.. and here i thought only ants can lift 10-20x their bodyweights (well, for your coach its like 4+ times) lol..

if i was a strength trainer id sign up man! but im more of a vain sod and go bb more for the ego booster criteria what u guys are doing looks cool tho.. btw, by being strong in lifting, what can you apply for everyday stuff e.g can throw a baseball further, able to run faster or able to lift a car out of a longkang to help a blur damsel in distress ?

I would suggest that you do a small flyer in both mandarin + BM. There is a huge interest in the Malay community. You might tap into something big in Melaka.

I was formerly into the beauty aspect of lifting weights as well. Trust me, I've been there. 3x10 as the magic routine right? Supersets, dropsets, HIIT magic.....Max-OT, yeah, been there, done that. I actually know how about bodybuilding too. Just so you know, Chinese style training, is VERY VERY tracked along the bodybuilding ideas as well. It's more strength based, but muscle building is important too.

As for applicability to everyday life, I now grab a basketball rim despite not training for it. I have somehow beaten a friend of mine who I've NEVER beaten in 8 years of running against him since Std 3 - Form 5. It's simple. If you can exert power to force 200KG'S into the air, you can probably jump a lot higher than a person that can only power up 30KG into the air.

I don't READ or WRITE in Chinese. Orang baba la yang. Maybe get my coach to write. I don't get it, why the Malays are into strength, but the Chinese all nak badan cantik aja? Hang tak suko~

Do vote how much you guys'd pay. If it's good response, we'll bring in some other coaches from neighboring countries too to talk about other things.
We're thinking of maybe even getting our national weightlifting coach for the elite team, Coach Lin down. I'd bring Stefan Stefanov down too, but Bulgarian training isn't quite applicable to bodybuilding. And I'm not close to him.


This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Mar 24 2009, 12:42 AM

issit a seminar only or a coaching sesion too?

Talk 1 hour first, about the basics that we need people to understand. Then 2 maybe even 3 hours of coaching. We won't limit the time actually. We really want people to go home, learning something new and spreading the right knowledge. It's not perfect business, but we'll always have new things to teach I'm sure. I've just got a new book too about psychology and sports. Gonna digest that and hopefully learn more.

Also, we'll try to get an average level of knowledge between trainees first. We don't want one advanced, one blur sotong. Cannot teach wan. Probably start with just blur sotongs so we can help them from being eaten by .....PT's.

Is this going to be a one-off thing or are you planning more if the first was a success? My grandma's in good ole Melaka and I plan to visit her sometime in May.

We all certainly know that WL is a sport that takes years to master which explains the very focused demographic. I believe this seminar only caters for either those who have the basics of WL or those who are "extraordinary" quick learners.

But once again, this is a good way to kick things off. Maybe you could have a series of an 8 week seminar with a break in between each week.


w/r

Oh it's definitely not going to be in May. We've to go to Penang for "Kejohanan Remaja"
It's going to be maybe in April the earliest. We'll plan more if the first is successful.

And we're making the first one. F.O.C. Only thing is we need you guys and girls who would come, to write and video a testimonial of how it's helped you. Fair deal right?


I plan to run the first one very soon......and it's going to be priced at RM0 per person+2 hours + 1 hour Q/A.

It's free because we feel it'd be a service to the community. And it'll be shorter lah.
Anyway, we're only taking in 5-10 people...so if you're interested, do drop your name.

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Mar 24 2009, 10:46 AM

Ahh..okay then, I thought you were focusing on WL'ers.

Greatness is never free. So please charge accordingly.

It's going to be free only for five selected people. And at the moment nobody seems interested even though it's free.

yo kurt... count me in. =.=

kurt who?

MLK is far for me especially as i don't have transportation.

Interested tho.

i am really interested in olympic lifting, but i am working, that is hard for me. and no transport as well

u guys can take bus to melaka.
melaka only got one bus stop which is melaka sentral.
me and pizzaboy can fetch u from there.
just hope the date i am free then i can avail myself.
=.=

http://www.getstrongsingapore.com/blog/tra...lacca-malaysia/

This is a testimonial by a Singaporean national weightlifter. He's also the holder of the fastest time for a giant wheel flip in Singapore. He also competes in Strongman and pound-per-pound is the strongest man in Singapore.

He came an entire week to Malaysia just to train with my coach.

That's dedication. Where there's a will, there will be a way. We're furthermore giving this first course for free. I'm not sure where you can find such offers around the world. So it's up to you guys to think of a way. Take my word, it'll be worth it.

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Added on March 24, 2009, 8:47 pm
ragemage says: January 25th, 2009 at 12:47 pm

Any chance of inviting Coach Wu to visit our sunny shores to conduct an olympic weightlifting workshop/camp for us noobies? I am sure the lifting crew at SWF will be happy to support it.


This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Mar 24 2009, 08:47 PM

You should advertise it in OHM.

I would love to attend, wana learn clean&jerk but would not b fair to pull out last moment due to my uncertain work schedule. Braindead, if ur readin dis... Pizzaboy, ur a saint.

PIZZABOY!
I WANT! I'll confirm right now if it's on 18 or 19 April.

Because I'll be only be around on the weekend of 18-19 April.
(Hope hope hope that it's that weekend.)

I'll consider this a "booking".
Find five other people to come with you. RM200 per person.
My coach will asses your capabilities and help you guys design something and teach you what you need to learn.
Meanwhile, train hard.

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Added on March 25, 2009, 12:11 amSee the problem with guys in OHM, they're quite elitist. And they've their own mentality of stuff. I am really unsure if we'll be able to pick out an audience that wants to learn, or guys paying RM 200 with an intention of showing that they're bb'ers that know everything.

Right now, only JonYeap is confirmed. Nobody else. 1 hour 15 mins, down south to learn, enjoy, relax and eat....not too bad what. You guys can even carpool. Get to know each other in the car.

Try getting a few friends.

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Mar 25 2009, 12:11 AM

I just read through thread again... Now i'm confused about the workshop. Which one is it? There's so many things you talked about, it's a mess.
Strength training, or oly style weightlifting, or BB-ing?
I'm interested in strength training, C&J, Snatch (if possible).

FOC one sudah no more?

hehe... i am the only one confirm. =.=
sweet...

oh kurt, give me few months time...
i plan to get in committee, then i will suggest them to do some "sessions"
with u and ur coach.
wakakak.. time time time... all needed is time... =.=

hopefully they'll accept. then at least got some extra cash for u. just trying to help ya out. =.=
cheers...

We will explain what the seminar is about. For those interested, just come on that day.

EG:

17 April - Oly lifting basics and technique
1 April - Strength training for beginners
2 April - G.P.P and conditioning
7 April - Pre-Hab exercises and re-hab exercises for athletes.

F.O.C. is only for the first session/test run. I need to get testimonials from people. Well actually I don't since I've already got a few Singaporean weightlifters that gave him a testimony, two American athletes including one from the American national weightlifting team.

Besides Yuan Wu, I coached you out for free already during last year's July or August

WE need the money now to raise funds for supplements. The government who aren't athletes have their own theory, that they'll give us the supps NEXT year. Go join now! OR who the hell's the president of that kamlan club anyway? I go talk to them personally.

Sorry, calling him Kurt hurts my head a bit.

It's KIRKS darnit!

Hah hah hah! Indeed, indeed. Thanks a lot for that one.
Aiseh, kalo toksa testimony... cakap awal-awal mah.

I'll be there on the 17th.
Can't make it on 1-7 april ones.

haha... then u got to go through wong also. coz he is the advisor.
also, how to join now... zzzzzzzz.... =.=
the kamlan club... u got to go through big man... Mr chua... wakkaka... the one who... u know! wakakka

as if i dont know... =.=
i just use to call him kurt.
kirksman.... rite?
sorry for hurting ur head. =.=

Sorry, I mean 18th. 17th's a Friday.
So I'll update the list.



You guys can go along and constantly complain about it being in Melaka, far and everything. This is my dedication and I'm dead driven to do the best I can in this field. It's subjective interest.

Jon, you ask the Mongolians and bring a few Flex members. 4th April 2009. I'll just need the names, and phone numbers and their agreement to write a testimonial and let me video them.

I'll let you know after getting permission from The Boss.

okok... i will do that bro.
will talk to u more in person

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Added on March 25, 2009, 4:04 pmoh ya... testimonial is how? u mean write in forum or wat?
i doubt those mongolians come to lyn. =.=

This post has been edited by JonYeap: Mar 25 2009, 04:04 PM

Kirksman,
Where is the location and how to contact you?

It's in this place called Ayer Leleh in Melaka. Call me, you have my number. Or PM me and ask my number. If you don't know where, call me when you pass the Ayer Keroh toll.

Ayer Leleh? For real?

joke bout it for wat?
haha... kirks, i got all the ppl de.
pm u the ppl. =.=
haha

JonYeap get off my back. I just thought the name of the place was funny.

hahaha.... icic...
muahaha i thought the same too when i first heard. =.=
have u seen a street called jalan p*** mak u?

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Added on April 4, 2009, 2:20 pmFuyoh!!! Just finished the session with coach wu and pizzaboy.
Muahaha... Brought 4 other guys with me, ranging from big to small. =.=
Nevertheless it was a wonderful experience for all of us.
My frens all left the gym hardly able to squat down or get of the car properly.
Haha... They will definitely cry the next day. =.=

As for me, i did squat 3 times already and deadlift 3 times already, so i think i am able to manage the soreness. =.=

Aside from learning proper squats and deadlift, we also did 5 sets of pizzaboy "game"! muahaha...
he timed us...
set goes like this :

40kg deadlift x5
bw push up x10
bw squat hand cross x15
we did this for 5 sets without resting (coz timing)

oh ya... forgot, i got to do 60kg instead of 40kg coz he want me to die faster. =.= hahaha...
nevermind... we all manage to finish, except the indian dude who is going to die. kakakkakaa...

my time was 3 min and 21 sec. while the slowest was 4 min and 30 sec or so. damn... it was FUN...

haha... u guys should try going there. today was just a light session but i believe in other sessions there will be lots more stuffs and also more detailed. this is a good opportunity for us and it could be the same for u all. =.=

pics and videos will be posted by pizzaboy maybe. =.=

This post has been edited by JonYeap: Apr 4 2009, 02:20 PM

The deadlift starting position. Nice form guy in blue



Don't look so happy Indian boy. You're about to feel like you've been hit by a truck



That's the right position. Slightly closer



Leg contract. Stand!





Nono silly boy, slightly forward.





Some pics from today's session. Loads more to go. Darn slow.

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Apr 4 2009, 10:44 PM

where is the video of u and ur coach squat? kaka

This post has been edited by JonYeap: Apr 4 2009, 03:22 PM

A lil adjustments....



This is your starting position Okay Indian boy. Okay maybe not yours. Ur inflexible, butt higher



In 5 mins, you'll feel like a truck just hit your face



Touch chest, elbows up



No no coach, you wrong. You skillless blue butt.







This is also my first day's test by my coach to see if I'm good enough to coach. Yes I AM!
I can now coach

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Apr 4 2009, 10:46 PM


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You guys learned squats and DL, eh?

Wah, the gym really ghetto leh!
C&J + snatches. Here I cum! I also need to have my squats and DL re-calibrated.

ok, i am one of the guy who attended the seminar today...

it was fun, and learned alot of stuff...

deadlift and squat is the main thingy we learn today as that is what we basically lack of knowledge, the correct form i mean...

coach wu and pizzaboy is friendly

and also, played the pizzaboy game, and seriously, 5 sets can kill ady... cant imagine doing 8 sets luckily pizzaboy changed his mind to let us go with 5reps

besides that, learned some basic stuff like the build for bodybuilder/weightlifer, train for muscle/strength thingy...

ohya, we also get to see pizzaboy and his coach perform squat... pizzaboy with 170kgs, while coach wu did 219kgs

side note : y only pizzaboy's face is covered?

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Apr 5 2009, 09:35 AM

I dono. Cuz I like to do that. Anyway, you guys know what I look like. It's all over my youtube channel.


Coach VS his student. Squatting a max attempt in the morning just doesn't feel right. Blek!

Muahaha... i am one of them too. wakakaka...
by the way got one video fuked up coz suddenly no battery. wkakaka...
also everybody went back satisfied and happy.
i bet they cant stand properly tomorrow. haha...
oh ya kirk, me and the indian boy went gym and whack again just now.
kaka... tried deadlifts and squats again. =.=
hehe... i didnt try much coz still tired.
but the indian guy... susah a bit la... =.=
he cant really deadlift coz he is too stiff...

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Added on April 4, 2009, 7:29 pmoh ya kirks, i think my deadlift 1RM is no longer at 110kg. coz 100kg i can do easily. coach wu says probably 130kg-140kg or so.
i got to try it...

oh ya... another damn nice feeling is dropping off the whole weight and slamming it on the ground. woosh!!! i cant do it elsewhere... =.= damn nice feel to it...

This post has been edited by JonYeap: Apr 4 2009, 07:29 PM

who's the guy holding the camera?

jonyeap

sry for the bad photo videos. =.=
1st time taking video with a camera.
not a person that holds camera often.


This post has been edited by JonYeap: Apr 7 2009, 01:38 PM

Pizzacoach,

Who else are coming for the CnJ and snatch this saturday?

Would you like to have anybody to come with you? You could bring a friend. If you get 4 we'll have a group discount as well. (A huge, group discount for...well You alone If you know what I mean. ) SydG's supposed to come, but don't know her boss let her come anot.

He's yet to give me an answer. I'll pester him again later today.

good god answer your phone.

that was you? heh

You trainees went all the way to malacca, you didnt even pull weighted bars? only empty ones? cmon man. thats injustice right there.

Syd, you coming?

Shane, form over weights mah.

yea, tat is for the sake of doing it the correct way...

after that, u can try it on any weight u like...

200kg oso available, ur call...

lol fine fine

I think this joker's gonna pull 200KG pretty soon.

haha... 200kg? muahaha... u mad? kakakakka...
bagata... 300kg also no problem....
muahaha...
finally i hit 144kg... althought struggling like mad coz i am damn tired already... haha

This post has been edited by JonYeap: Apr 14 2009, 11:23 PM

your coach got serious quads. this is the same boydbuilder coach you posted b4?

Chow

His coach is a bodybuilder, MR Asia Junior Coach Class. And he never did curls.

err... i din say i am gonna go for that weight... lolx...

jz stating that we arent go all da way to there n jz given empty bar as stated by shane

should hav shuddup then

This post has been edited by bagata: Apr 15 2009, 12:44 PM

My coach never did bodybuilding. He's purely a weightlifter then and now. It just so happens that weightlifting can build some serious bodies as well, especially with the Chinese method of variety.

His chest, is 90% the work of dips and weighted push-ups. The other 10% came from bench pressing. He doesn't advocate benching because of the shoulder pain it gave him, so he stopped doing it after a short while.


Nolah, I was referring to Shanecross pulling 200KG. It's going to happen within this year for sure.

Check out my new custom weightlifting shoes, sent by a client from USA. My gift for helping him! Whee!!

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Apr 15 2009, 02:50 PM


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wow... nice shoe u hav there... what did u help him for him to gift u that shoe?

This post has been edited by bagata: Apr 15 2009, 03:25 PM

i refer to pictures you posted b4...that 16 yo bodybuilder...thats him?


Chow

A nice BJ, is that the type of answer you expecting?

not really... was expecting something like full workout schedule planning, or diet planning thingy...

i think i shouldnt have added the

lolx...

Like I said, that 16 year old's body was crafted from weightlifting. And yes that's him.

I helped him with a workout schedule, how to program the loads used and fixed his technique. He wanted to pay me but I had a better idea. So he bought me those shoes and some other things.

Despite how fcked many of us think Americans are, we have to respect their "Give back what I take" unlike Malaysians ideas of "I want everything free" mentality. I very much like Americans for that.

About time you realize? Thats why most of the fellas here want to go for your seminar, but they are not willing to pay. Typical shithead.

Hey, I'd take a free one when it's available. [I feel so paiseh saying this]

But I'll pay good money for serious knowledge. Anyway, what's a few hundred ringgit? 1 PT session in fitness first is already 120 an hour... for teaching you how to throw a ball on a bosu ball. X^D

monyet,

i can only let you know fridae whether we can turun melaka onot. you hv no idea how much i want to do this

Please do come.

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Added on April 16, 2009, 10:02 amNice to see you've touched down safely in Malaysia. See you this saturday
012-7127 366. Contact me K

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Apr 16 2009, 10:02 AM

Thanks, m8! 5 hours on an Airbus is a sucky experience.
See you on Saturday. I'll send you an SMS later.

PM me the address. I'll look it up on a map to have an idea how to get there.
And the time?

You went to china or something to train?

Work, actually.
I'm so noob... I wish I go there to train. X^D

Anyway, still working out in FF Subang? Or you're fully into Crossfit now?

Still in FF

WARGH!!!

I has to come in May instead. Blerghk blergh blergh



This post has been edited by Syd G: Apr 17 2009, 05:46 PM

It seems I'm coming alone tomorrow.

Aiseh. Those in Melaka, want to meet up?

I'll be going to melaka the final weekends of april, since labour day follows.

PM Florian and Jonyeap. They're frm Mlk too I think.

liar... =.=
not i think... its u know!
muahahha...
bagata also

Hi guys,

Anyone from PJ/KL wanna car pool or take bus together down to Melaka for the session..?

a little too late to ask? =.=
haha

Really interested in this, but have to work over the weekend. T_T

I've got one fellow that's interested already. He's trying to find a friend or two. Maybe if he agrees and you guys are cool with it, can discuss with the guy. It might be a lil strange....

If anyone wants to tag along to Malacca on the labour day weekend, PM me. I miss my tire in the air leleh gym . DAMN !

PS: Im going there not for coaching or what , just want to go sightseeing, I know im a Malaysian who doesn't know his country.

This post has been edited by shanecross: Apr 18 2009, 09:37 AM

me at hometown ady... not spending the weekend at malacca this week... been sick for 1week... hayh...

miss the gym...



This post has been edited by bagata: Apr 18 2009, 10:00 AM

I alone went for the clean and jerk. Can be considered as totally personal training. And I whacked another car in Malacca. D@mn fxcking 'suay' to start off the day.

It was fun learning the Clean & Jerk (push press actually).

Now I know why those olympic people can just throw 100-200kg over their head.
It's actually quite easy (well, I was using a 15kg ladies' bar, eh heh heh =P)... once you know how to do it properly (which is going to take years of practice to perfect the movements)

Jerk until car also can crash

Yalah, d@mn sial lah.
Fortune teller told me this Chinese cow year is bad for me to drive. =P

I couldn't quite remember what the heck happened. It's like suddenly 2-3 seconds I was like---*poof* my mind slipped away...

The next thing I know... I was slamming the brakes, the car screeched, and BAM!
$#%^(#&%!!!

Oh boy...how you are wrong there.

Wait till when you reach 90% of your limits. Your back squat of 90KG probably gives a front squat of about 70KG. Your max clean might be about 50-55KG. Try jerking 50KG. There you'll see the difference. Then there's the leg position during the jerk position, which is very important. Many can jerk, but can't hold their jerk position. I rather snatch than jerk really.

Can come train in Melaka if only myself? Also, due to a hip strain (during badminton, of all things) I've not been working out for 2-3 weeks. Should I condition myself for 1-2 weeks first before even thinking of coming?

Where you from? If you are from Damansara or Subang, I can help you with that.

Hi shanecross,

I'm in Damansara Perdana.

You mean the conditioning, or truckin' it down to Melaka?

If the former or latter, also welcome to tell me more