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crapp0
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Oct 16 2009, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Oct 16 2009, 09:46 AM) Given u requirement of i5 and 5850, I wont suggest to go for smallest possible case, coz it would compromise the cooling performance and resulting unstable system. In general, Shuttle case is like 30% smaller than smallest matx case..  Im not looking to do any overclocking btw. just use stock standard for now. Looks like i have to get a micro atx casing. Just wondering what kind psu rating should i get say if i wanted the core i5 with either a 5850 or crossfire 5770 set up? is 650 watts enough?
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Doom
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Oct 16 2009, 10:17 AM
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That's under the condition even before doing any overclocking ... and Don't get too excited of doing crossfire on a small case, u would get massive of headache during installation and maintenance... . Lastly, better off get a 5850 and run with a good 600 watts modular Power suppler ..
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crapp0
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Oct 16 2009, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Oct 16 2009, 10:17 AM) That's under the condition even before doing any overclocking ... and Don't get too excited of doing crossfire on a small case, u would get massive of headache during installation and maintenance... . Lastly, better off get a 5850 and run with a good 600 watts modular Power suppler ..  Ok, then forget the SFF, i'll just have to go with a micro atx casing. Hopefully they have those which arent too big, bulky or heavy.
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Doom
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Oct 16 2009, 10:29 AM
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this is what u can get the best for the asking price...  spacious for ur requirement and with a bit of modification, a tower CPU cooler can be installed Xqbox
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crapp0
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Oct 16 2009, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Oct 16 2009, 10:29 AM) this is what u can get the best for the asking price...  spacious for ur requirement and with a bit of modification, a tower CPU cooler can be installed XqboxI may not even go for a third party cooler, just use stock standard. I doubt that singapore vendors have this casing coz im not goint to the states anytime soon and australia is just 2 bloody expensive.
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slyyoung
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Oct 16 2009, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Oct 16 2009, 09:30 AM) @slyyoung With ur budget I dont think u should look at Silverstone case coz it cost starting from RM3++... look for other model like microfly and etc which would give u better deal. go for AMD setup see if can fit it under ur budget loh @crapp0 matx motherboard can fit in any micro atx specific case. but most likely wont fit into shuttle kind of case.. for your requirement any matx case would be able to do so but the size is definitely larger than Shuttle ... Besides the smaller motherboard, other components like RAM, HDD, PSU can use normal sized ones rite?
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Doom
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Oct 16 2009, 10:48 AM
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RAM, HDD, PSU... these things size can't be different unless u are looking at notebook setop  my previous post to crapp0 suggested xqbox is highly recommended..
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slyyoung
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Oct 16 2009, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Oct 16 2009, 10:48 AM) RAM, HDD, PSU... these things size can't be different unless u are looking at notebook setop  my previous post to crapp0 suggested xqbox is highly recommended.. System Specs PSU : AMD X2 4400+MOBO : Gigabyte GA-MA69G-S2RRAM : Corsair DDR1 1GB X2 (Corsair 4GB DDR2)PSU : Mushkin HP-550GFX : Gigabyte 7900GTXS CARD : ESI Juli@HDD: 500GB SeagateAh, that casing looks nice as well, but the above specs is a bit outdated rite? What would your recommendations be given my budget? In bold would be what I prefer.
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Doom
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Oct 16 2009, 11:34 AM
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above spec is what u have right now ?
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fr0sti3
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Oct 16 2009, 11:53 AM
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if those are his current sys, can retain PSU, RAM & HD those rams are 800mhz ?
phenom 720 - rm420 asus m4a785d-m pro - rm345 silverstone SG03 - rm500 (price from c-zone) 5770 - rm650 total: 1915
This post has been edited by fr0sti3: Oct 16 2009, 11:53 AM
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Doom
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Oct 16 2009, 12:04 PM
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I would rather suggest xqbox then Sugo 03 due to budget cap.. besides, he's aiming for 2X2GB quoted in bracket  so need to allocate money for it around since he's using DDR1 according to the above spec.
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slyyoung
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Oct 16 2009, 12:17 PM
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Doom And frosti3: No those are not my specs, I found it in the xqbox thread. I am building a system completely from scratch.
Yeah, I think I'll scratch silverstone for the time being, freaking expensive, haha. I'm down to either G326 or xqbox.
So,
proc: phenom 720 - RM420 mobo: asus m4a785d-m pro - RM345 RAM: 2 x 2GB Corsair PC800 D2 Value RM260 casing: - Aopen G326/xqbox - RM300 GC: 5770 - RM650 HDD: Seagate 500GB - RM180 PSU: CM Extreme Power 500W - RM199
total: RM2354
Can I opt for a cheaper GC? Does games like Red Alert, Dawn of War run with a lower GC?
This post has been edited by slyyoung: Oct 16 2009, 12:33 PM
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Doom
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Oct 16 2009, 12:36 PM
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well PSU wise, can get Silverstone Strider Evolution 500 watts Modular at Rm269...  in that case hunt for 4850 loh, if u are running on screen resolution equal or lower than 1680X1050.. this card is enough to handle it, btw, the price is around RM380... This post has been edited by Doom: Oct 16 2009, 12:41 PM
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slyyoung
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Oct 16 2009, 12:54 PM
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proc: phenom 720 - RM420 mobo: asus m4a785d-m pro - RM345 RAM: 2 x 2GB Corsair PC800 D2 Value RM260 casing: - Aopen G326/xqbox - RM300 GC: SAPPHIRE HD4850 512MB D3 256BIT - RM365 HDD: Seagate 500GB - RM180 PSU: Silverstone Strider 500W - RM289 Monitor: Ben-Q 21.5" G2220HD - RM499
Total: RM2658
So, more or less should be like that la. Prices are all quoted from c-zone, except for the casing.
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Doom
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Oct 16 2009, 01:02 PM
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hehe: u pretty much got it going ... btw make sure u get the PSU right, it's the modular version ..
remember to post some photo when it's done ..
some of the the cables are removable to reduce the mess inside the case after finish installing it..
This post has been edited by Doom: Oct 16 2009, 01:04 PM
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slyyoung
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Oct 16 2009, 01:03 PM
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What's the difference? So I must let the seller know explicitly that I want the modular version?
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evolutioner
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Oct 16 2009, 02:18 PM
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bro doom, are u sure he's not talking about the same thing when he mentioned SFF and "shuttle type of casing"?
generally ppl are not as specific as us in usage of these terms..
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Doom
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Oct 16 2009, 03:04 PM
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I get what he mean coz last time I was a Shuttle user. He asked in the previous page whether matx can fit into SFF like Shuttle .. Since he quoted "Shuttle", that mean he got the idea SFF isn't exclusive referring to Shuttle only loh.. probably has to wait for him to further clarify as well loh ..
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evolutioner
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Oct 16 2009, 04:24 PM
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shuttle uses proprietary mobo and psu.. yucks.. lol
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fr0sti3
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Oct 16 2009, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(evolutioner @ Oct 16 2009, 04:24 PM) shuttle uses proprietary mobo and psu.. yucks.. lol agree it's nice being compact & little, but it's more expensive than self assemble u can only use their mobo, few years down the road & u find out that u can't change mobo coz they didn't release that particular model u want
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