Hi guys, I hope to consolidate all discussion on UTeM in this one thread for the benefit of incoming students who need more info on this university. The older thread is not maintained by anybody, which I feel is a shame as I have posted a lot of information there. So hopefully I can migrate all the info here so that this thread can be a one-stop solution for people who will no doubt get assigned to this university in the near future and wonder, "What the heck is this uni?". Well you can find out more here, now. Some info still needs editing so please bear with me. Oh and this is probably going to be a Wall Of Text Attack x 1000 damage.


Recent Events @ UTeM:

Lightning Talk


Introduction
This is a PUBLIC university, so expect the number of chinese people to be lower than other private institutions. Also, as this is an ENGINEERING university, all five faculties are engineering related and so expect to see less girls than a fully-fledged universities with law or business faculties (also known as Leng Lui Nest, haha). There are a lot of politeknik and diploma students here, mostly Malay and some Indian, so it's multicultural same like the rest of Malaysia-lah.

That said, IMO UTeM has it's share of girls, mostly in FTMK or the IT faculty. So it depends la..year by year diff one but generally, FTMK has the most girls while if not mistaken FKM or FKE (mechanical or electrical) has the least, sometimes none. It also depends on your major. My major is Manufacturing Design, and it's a cursed department where for 2 years running now, no cute chinese girls, only got 1 come in during the 2nd year via direct intake. So...haha try to avoid my faculty if leng lui is important to you.

Ok, that should satisfy any questions about girls for now. Now for the more important issues. How is studying here like? From 2009 onwards, we only have 1 campus, which is the main campus located at Durian Tunggal. It is quite far, in the middle of nowhere, but with highway access, getting around is easy provided you have your own transport. The environment is quite nice and the size of the campus is large, although construction is still underway with the targeted completion date of 2010. So far only FKP and FKM buildings have yet to be completed. The accommodation hostel is also under construction.

The quality of students here are...as usual la...not the best cos the best obviously all went to those UM USM etc. But there are a few 'lost' people as well. I think there was a guy who got 3.75 for his STPM and got here, but he stayed anyway. First Year intake usually very small...around 20-30 students PER MAJOR. But your class will swell up to about 60 students after 2nd year due to direct intake. Now these people are not the best academically, but quite a lot of them are VERY good at practical things. I know one guy who whizzed through the whole Mechatronics labwork easy as pie cos he did it before, didn't even need to refer the notes, while I stand there like an idiot trying to figure out how to read the hydraulic diagrams. So yeah, don't look down on these people, they are actually very good, just that most of them have a problem with English.

And that brings us to the second problem...english. It's hard to find people who speak good english here. Most of the malays have poor english (no offense) and mostly it's the indians and chinese who converse in english (or in their own mother tongue). I hope this situation will change someday la, because the language barrier is sometimes the problem between why malays and other races dun mix. My malay sucks, so I dun have a lot of malay friends, and that's just how it is. I'm not trying to bring up any racial issues here, just my own observations.

As for the grading system...it's not really the best. Repeat questions and tips or soalan bocor are common, but that's due to again the problem of english language. However, in recent times, UTeM has tried to improve their system to give it more quality. This is a complicated subject so I don't wish to discuss first, but you will understand when you get in. But dun worry...60% of the marks goes to practical work, so exams are not very important in the first place. It is bad though because it means you have to work hard 100% percent of the time and not just glide thru and then score in the finals to get your grade. You NEED to give every small project, every small assignment your attention.

And yes....i'll be honest, please don't compare with UM and USM and all the other established universities. It's a different class alltogether. First of all the system is diff, second their budgets are WAY higher and all their buildings and administrative issues have been sorted out, while here sometimes will kelam kabut a bit due to system down or whatnot. UTeM only started operating in 2001, so it's about 8 years old only, but relatively speaking, it has done pretty well. It's up to you to put in the effort to learn and graduate with a good grade. In the end of the day, the degree you earn is just a chance for you to get the interview, after that it's about how you perform already so dun worry too much. You're in charge of your own future. Students from UTeM are readily accepted by the industry because our course is developed based on feedback from industry, so that our skills remain relevant. A lot of them have gone on to work with MNCs, GLCs, etc.

OK enough of the heavy stuff...what about the social stuff? OK first of all I hate the fact that first year and second year students have to stay in hostel. It SUCKS and the hostel guards are one of the most annoying things ever. There are quite a few hostels depending on which faculty or gender you are so without going into too much detail, expect to travel from 10 to 20 minutes to your class because the permanent hostel building is not completed yet. As with all local uni, hostel conditions are cramped but it's not dire and you'll learn to cope with it. Girls have more hostel issues than guys, cos generally all the guys in a hostel will become brothers after spending so much time together. I still keep in touch with some seniors whom I spend time with during my first year in hostel. So yeah...it's cramped, but you get to know a lot more people, and it's easy to organize a DOTA-fest (trust me, it'll ruin your results and result in many sleepless nights, haha).

Travelling around sucks if you don't have a car, because town is about 30 minutes away by car, but if you take the bus....good luck....can take anywhere from 1 hour to 2.5 hours to get there. The bus system here is LOUSY like hell, but only because 2 years ago, busses dun even serve Bukit Beruang. The situation is improving, but it's best to have a car, or know someone who has one so that you can carpool.

The Uni bus also another big headache. But from what I heard, all public uni suffer from this problem, especially in UMS, where the drivers think they are F1 drivers. Basically it all boils down to you sticking to their schedule, which is not very friendly if you have staggered classes so you have to stay in the boring campus. And they are notoriously rude/inefficient/not on time most of the time. But got season one...sometimes their mood good, their service is good. But sometimes it's not. It all depends on drivers la. There's a few drivers that are consistently assholes, so after awhile, most of the students either learn to adopt a system to deal with it, or carpool with a friend. From what I know, your first semester here will use the bus...after that in the second semester you'll most probably find a car or find a friend who has one. If not...be prepared for lots of cursing at the (@*#&*$ drivers.

Oh ya...if you are coming into UTeM this coming July...a tip for you....BRING YOUR OWN FOOD. STOCKPILE IT! Why? Haha, you'll know why. Some people cannot tahan but for me...I find it's not such a big problem. You have been warned. Oh and bring your PSP/NDS/MP3 or whatever over for orientation...again trust me on this one, you'll thank me later. Finally, PROTECT YOUR BELONGINGS! During your first week, you will be randomly assigned hostels with strangers who know that they won't be seeing you after a week, so they won't hesitate to take your stuff. Don't need to be paranoid la, but there have been a few cases of theft before, usually handphone. So keep your handphones and wallets with you at all times, better safe that sorry right? With so many students (about 2K per intake) mixed up like that, theft is bound to happen. I'm surprised that there's not more, actually. But stay one the safe side and take care of your belongings (obviously!).

Oh yeah, hostel-entertainment wise, the university now allows streamyx to be installed in hostels, so you can have your own personal broadband connection. I hear that many universities, like UKM for example, suffer from the problem of spotty broadband. UTeM last time also had problems with internet because their service sucks, but ever since they allow Streamyx, life has been MUCH MUCH better.

If you come to study in Melaka, don't expect to enjoy KL entertainment to be honest. This town sleeps at 10.30pm at night, haha. Very strange. But now they have new malls like Pahlawan Square and Mahkota Parade in town. A new place called Melaka Mall is also just opened right behind Bunga Raya Hostel, and there's a cinema (MBO) there so students don have to go all the way down to town just to catch a movie, now it's just 20 minutes walk away or you can take the bus. There are also many constructions going on around Ayer Keroh like Bowling place, and others.

OK here are some overview of the malls near UTeM

Melaka Mall is a pretty good place, I give it 8/10. It has MBO for cinema, a new arcade center with House of the Dead 4 (damn CHUN) and some sort of racing game like Initial D, but with surround sound and also a handbrake you can pull for drifting. There's a Parkson there but I dun go there and also Cold Storage for upscale snacks that you want to buy. Some interesting places to eat her include Laksa Shack (from penang! haha), Mary Browns, 1901, McD, and a few others that I can't remember. The Sushi at cold storage also not bad...RM10 for any 10 sushi. To get here, just hop on any bus headed to Melaka Sentral and it will most definitely pass by here. It's about 15 minutes walk from Bunga Raya Hostel, if you are willing. Faster than waiting for the bus too, sometimes.

Jusco is a nice place if you want to go grocery shopping. I give it a score of 6/10, mostly because there's nothing much to do here except buy grocery and window shop. There's a Popular book store here, some funky japanese restaurant, McD, Johnny's Steamboat, Secret Recipe, Sushi King, Shakeys Pizza, KFC, Peri Peri Chicken (forgot that shop name lol), Coffee Bean, Windmill (western food like chicken chop, meat chop, leg chop, hand chop etc) and that's about it. One thing good about Jusco is if you go to their sushi corner after 9.30pm, they will sell their sushi for 30% off. Their bakery also frequently have 30-50% off for egg tarts, emerald cake, etc etc. They also have good deals on juices. But generally the prices of items here are expensive unless you can get discounts. It's located just opposite Melaka Mall. There will be a new Jusco opening soon next to Tesco. It's fricking HUGE!

Tesco. I love Tesco! 9/10! Best place to go if you have lots of stuff to buy because I think it's the cheapest in Melaka and it's pretty huge too. It's located next to Melaka Sentral so to get here, just go to Melaka Sentral and walk to Tesco using the elevated skyway. Nothing much to say here except it's cheap and big.

Carrefour gets a 6/10. This just opened in town, which is far, and is comparable to Tesco in terms of style and pricing. I go here when I get bored of Tesco Melaka and they do sell some stuff that you can't find in Tesco. To get here, just alight at Pahlawan Square and you can see the giant sign.

Mahkota Parade 9/10. A pretty nice place for shopping in Melaka. I think it's the only big mall here before Pahlawan Square opened. There's a GSC on the top floor and a lot of places to eat. Some notable spots are Sibaraku, which serves western/japanese buffet or ala-carte food. There's also Seoul Garden for buffet, which is one of the best places for buffet if you're a student because if you come in the afternoon, it's only about Rm17 per head, which is cheap for the stuff you get. Come here a 10am and makan till 3pm la, haha. There's also a good food court called Newton just next to Mahkota Parade offering traditional food from all over Malaysia, but pricey.

Pahlawan Square 8/10. Expensive place. Lots of designer stuff and I dun come here often because I dun have money to buy, or tak rela buy the stuff here, haha. There's an arcade here (lousy compared to MM) and you can get group pictures taken here through those machines.

A huge Jusco is undergoing construction next to Tesco =)


HOSTEL INFO

Bunga Raya: Guys and Girls mixed hostel (like heaven, haha) and is perhaps one of the best places you can stay in UTeM. Last semester it's for FTMK girls and FKM+FKP guys. Next sem I heard FKP girls and FKP+FKM guys will stay pulak. Anyway it's hard to guess who will be staying because every semester they will shift faculties around. But Bunga Raya remains the only unisex hostel in UTeM. So faster thank god if you get this place. There is a huge chinese food court called MMU Corner just down the street (where you can oogle at pretty girls from MMU from here) and the bus service is rather better than the rest because it's nearest to town, and just beside MMU Melaka so you can go there and play basketball and/or watch girls.

Murni: A more secluded spot deeper inside from the main road. Roughly 15 minutes walk from iRelax cyber cafe next to the road. This place is pretty nice, because there's a forest outside so the air very fresh and when it rains, it's very peaceful here. Rooms are the largest among all the guys hostel but you will need to walk 15 minutes to get to MMU Corner for decent chinese food. Otherwise, you can purchase cheap malay food from the canteen. They also have roadside stalls nowadays offering a variety of goreng goreng and kueh if you get sick of eating curry and chilly all the time. I liked this place better than Bunga Raya because of the more spacious room and peaceful learning environment. Last sem FKE and FKEKK guys stayed here and this sem probably the same. Guys only hostel.

Pangsapuri Perempuan: Erm...not much experience here. It's located closest to UTeM Industrial Campus and from what I heard, very very cramped living environment. I don't really have experience here cos I rarely go, but food might be a problem.

There are some others now, like Emerald Park, D'Apartment, etc. I have no experience with them hopefully some forumers can give their input and I will update this post.

That's the three main hostels for UTeM. They like to switch students around from time to time but it's not a big deal. Or if you want to, you can always ask seniors who are in LI whether they want to rent out their houses for cheap. Usually many will be thankful because they often have to pay rent even if they're not staying there during LI. If you want to move out then get to know some seniors then during Sem 2 when they LI, you can move out =). But unfortunately, you are required to pay for your hostel rent regardless of if you stay in it or move out illegally, so you might complain complain but at the end of the day, continue to stay inside the hostel.

Information in this section might be outdated, because I haven't been staying in hostel for a year now.

ORIENTATION

As for orientation week, all NEW students will be placed in Murni during orientation week. You will move to your respective permanent hostels after your orientation is over, so if possible, bring less stuff so that you don't have to be like me...bring everything over, climb up 4 levels, then one week later have to pack up and move to another place. Just bring the bare minimum that you need and ask your parents to bring the rest over once you finish orientation (usually you will have sundays off for moving to your permanent hostel). Save you time and sweat, unless you are FKE or FKEKK, then you just have to switch rooms, but can be a hassle also. Imagine going from 4th floor Block A move to 4th Floor Block B. Move stuff until I half dead, haha.

Finally...as for night activities...trust me when I say UTeM you won't get much social activities. The workload here is a lot compared to other universities. Their emphasis on 60% practical means almost every week you will have new assignments and stuff that needs to be passed up. First Year students might have more free time but once you enter 2nd Year, you can kiss your sleep time at night goodbye. I never had a problem of being too bored at UTeM, mainly because me and my hostel friends always will have something to do, either homework or gaming and during weekends we will sometimes go out to Melaka Mall to catch a movie or go to the famous Jongker Street of Melaka. The only time when I was bored out of my mind was when my hostel mates go back to their hometown during study week and I'm stuck there alone. =) Hope the info will be useful for those who seek a more thorough clarification on UTeM hostel life.

What you need to prepare will be listed in the offer letter, but you can call the office for further information. Fashion for orientation week is white button collar shirt + black pants + black shoes. Just bring a change of clothes enough for a week, cos after that you no need to wear the white shirts anymore, unless you wanna do presentation and have to wear formal (even then, wear la something cun sikit, lol). You also need to bring one or two sports tracksuit for sport activities.

After orientation week, dress code is typical public uni, which means short hair, collar-t shirts (roundneck haram), long pants and shoes. After you get your lab coats (give them half to one year to get your lab coat done) you can wear that to uni and wear anything underneath it.

Girls are prohibited from wearing skirts. Even those sarong kind of skirt also cannot. On the face of it they allow la, but the *@#$*&$ guards like to tegur you one, so most of the girls there wear jeans or long pants. Paham paham la...as the majority of students are malay, they would like the girls to dress conservatively, regardless of whether you subscribe to their beliefs or not. Just another fact of public U life which is lousy, but you'll get used to it. Most of my female friends prefer to wear their jeans anyways, save the sexy outfit for when they go clubbing in Purebar on weekends =)


Important Links:

Official UTeM Website

Bloggers United UTeM:
Chang Gee Guan - Currently studying Masters in FTMK
Odin 88
Reign226 Blog


If you need me to post up your links, please PM me, or post in this thread. I'm thinking of doing a Wiki also, so that you guys can go and directly edit there, and I just take the changes and upload it back to here. Will let you know how it goes.

I also maintain a personal blog with my gf accessible here. Haven't updated it recently as I am busy with work commitments, but I am starting to get a little disgusted at the way management runs things in my faculty so I am planning to write daily on my experiences with the lectures and lecturers as a final year student of Bacherlor of Manufacturing Engineering (Design). Hopefully it won't be just criticisms and I will include any positive experiences. After I grad and get my cert, will submit them to the dean in hopes that he will get a students-eye-view of the practical day-to-day results of management competency (or lack thereof) in transforming ideals to reality.


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This post has been edited by reign226: May 25 2009, 07:11 PM

finally mate, I thought UTeM's thread will be long gone, and you too

haha...i was too busy with my internship at Sg...didn't have the time to do anything. But I think next intake is coming soon so better hurry up and consolidate the info. Will be adding a link to Wikipedia soon to facilitate easier addition/removal of info. Stuff there once matured will be moved to this thread, and visa versa.

WAS a student there for 1 week of haluan siswa and 1 day of lectures then bye bye ady.. lol.. well, wat can i say bout tis uni.. it needs popularity to attract more good students.. facility wise i think not bad for a new establish uni.. but i noe before tis it was a KU la.. keep it up guys.. all the best..

UTeM Main Campus(725 acre,approximately the size of University of Malaya{UM})



1.Kompleks sukan
-Stadium & Trek Balapan
-Dewan Sukan
-Gelanggang Permainan
2.Jambatan
3.Kolej Penginapan Pelajar
4.Faculty Of Electrical Engineering (FKE)
5.Faculty of Electronics and Computer Engineering (FKEKK)
6.Pentadbiran Utama
-Pejabat Canselori
-Pendaftar
-Bendahari
7.Cafeteria Pelajar 1
8.Masjid
9.Pusat Persatuan Pelajar
10.Perpustakaan
11.Faculty of Information and Communications Technology (FTMK)
12.Faculty of Manufacturing Engineering(FKP)
13.Faculty of Mechanical Engineering (FKM)
14.Kafeteria
15.Dewan Besar
16.Pusat Komputer
17.Kafeteria Pelajar 2
18.Kafeteria Staff



Chancellor building(at night)


Chancellor building (side view)


Chancellor building(Bottom)


Dewan Besar (Is huge...construction will be completed in 2009)

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Added on March 20, 2009, 4:21 amStadium



This post has been edited by stupidbo: May 24 2009, 09:28 AM

Kompleks sukan(Where we sit for the final exam)


Cafeteria executive


UTeM's Bus



UTeM’s Bridge


FKEKK Buildings



FKE's Building

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This post has been edited by hakken9: Aug 15 2009, 02:34 AM

Gallery







Library,FTMK Buildings, Mosque, Pusat Persatuan Pelajar, Pusat Komputer,etc.(construction will be completed in 2009)



This post has been edited by bluemas: Mar 24 2009, 12:33 AM

nice pictures.. as i said.. UTeM's facilties r no1, all they need is good students to bring up the name.. work hard guys..

ermm...why the heck my building suddenly turned into FTMK's? It's FKEKK mate =..=

is my mistake......edit already.....oic...you are the guy from FKEKK
FKEKK indoor 3rd floor, lecture rooms walkway(from reign226)


This post has been edited by hakken9: Mar 22 2009, 03:43 AM

From me? What's from me? Nice pictures, good for ppl who need to look at the buildings more. Next semester most of the faculties are moving to this main campus. It's just me and a few other guys who will remember what it was like to study in a factory owned by Cubic.

Just like the time when my seniors used to b**** about studying in shophouses I guess. We have come a long way in 8 years. =)

TS u from which faculty??? btw i am ex-utem student from fkekk faculty that graduated last year..taking computer engineering...so how the construction at the main campus????

nice campus.... =/ however it is not well known .. i just got to know about this uni today... Indeed need good student to bring the university to the top

Latest news:


3 New programmes are now offer in UTeM for this coming july 2009 intake:-
Fakulti Pengurusan Teknologi dan Teknousahawanan:
Sarjana Muda Teknousahawanan
Sarjana Muda Pengurusan Teknologi(Inovasi Teknologi)
Sarjana Muda Pengurusan Teknologi(Pemasaran Teknologi Tinggi)
Duration for these 3 courses: 4 year full time(8 semester)

This post has been edited by bluemas: Jun 23 2009, 02:19 AM

looks like UTEM is growing big.. is a good sign, can intake more students..

I'm from FKP.

Not sure why they want to take over EP. Currently all the hostels are situated far from the main campus, making travelling very tiring. If you wanna study here, either get a car or be prepared to study in the library during your hours in between.

Anybody got any idea the new campus library like how? Is it still as small as 2 years ago? It's really pathetic, but I understand it's temporary. Still...

all hostel are outside the campus? usually hostel are inside the campus ma, then if located outside the campus ma walk until like hell...

The university's main campus is not completed yet. So they have off-site campuses about 25 minutes away. Used to be not that bad as they have industrial campus for some faculties but I heard next year everybody is moving to the main campus. So it will be tough to travel.

Walk? It's a 25 minute drive. You can't walk as the main campus is situated in the middle of nowhere. Although it is quite accessible by highway, with ample signs to point you to the right place. Which is still in the middle of nowhere though. Food is always a problem because the canteen selection is very limited, so my friends will usually drive to the nearest down, eat, then drive back.

Once the campus is done in 2010 (supposedly) then all hostel will be inside the campus. But currently the area designated for hostel is still an empty piece of land.

oh my god..
study there quite hard also.. need to travel all tha way to class everyday..

i just ask my penasihat akademik.what she said we are going to move into main campus on this coming new semester(cubic no more already.....sad sad......although it is small.....but i can go to library/find lecturer just stone's throw away distance )...that's mean this coming semester which starts in july........since FKM and FKP (FTMK maybe will study in campus bandar....for the new faculty,no clue.maybe will friends with FTMK......i will follow you ....haha)will be studying in the main campus, it is expected that the new library which located in front of the mini roundabout, main campus(yea...i am going to say it is mini compare to the 2 roundabout in MITC...damn big .......haha) will be fully function....thus, i dont think there are any problem for the students who usually study in the library(i love the library architecture, just located in front of the roundabout,behind facing the man-made lake/river...haha....kicking ass view ).....yeah....for the food, i think it is better than the food sells in cubic since we can patronise the cafeteria excecutive........what i heard from my friend said over there more choices for you compare to the cafeteria which is located beside FKEKK.......
for the accomodation, my friend got the news from the HEPA when he's giving a speech in a activity organized by UTeM. he said UTeM is going to buy the Emarld Park from MMU since the permanent hostel stil not available........... actually the hostel in main campus should be in the construction progress now since the government had allocated the money for this purpose...however, donno why the money still not passing to the developer...........haiz.....again...it's all about politics.......

haiz.... donno why all the engineering courses offer in government university loves the ulu ulu places.........just like usm engineering campus in nibong tebal,ump,unimap,uthm........for utm,i have no idea. but i dont think food is an issue in utm since the student population is so big.....big population=more mouth to feed=more food=more choices......haha.....i think

This post has been edited by bluemas: Mar 25 2009, 02:31 AM

walao.. how you know all this engineering campus located in ulu ulu places?
but i agree with you, engineering campus already very sien.. somemore located al ulu place..

Not all lah. I can only think of USM's engineering. UTeM's main campus will be moved to Durian Tunggal, so technically there is no engineering campus offshoot of the main university.

UM, UKM, UMP all have engineering programmes and they are situated in pretty prime locations if you ask me.

The food really sucks in the Industrial Campus, but I think the Main Campus even worse...although I don't know the selection at the staff cafeteria is how-lah. But for me, I cannot eat Malay food everyday, after awhile I get jelak also, plus it's sometimes too spicy or oily for me. Even my Malay friends also cannot tahan after awhile, but maybe that's the Cubic caterer problem. Bihun cook 1/2 way only, too salty, not enough salt, etc etc. Paling kesian is if you finish class at 1PM, most of the food finish so you end up eating rice with vege gravy. -.-

Anybody got idea of where to get good food in Melaka that is student-priced or at least not too expensive? I might update the main topic with your recommendation, haha.

i agree with u....food at cafeteria in main campus & at cubic is really sucks....i always go to pekan durian tunggal or ayer keroh to find food during lunch hour....

i haven have experience with main campus food yet. next sem only start to eat there. most probably will go pekan eat also. how long is the ride ah? i forgot already. =P

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Added on March 26, 2009, 3:22 pmguys should check this website out:

http://www.dustball.com/cs/plagiarism.checker/

Pretty nifty tool. From personal experience, students here love to copy and paste. I think even other universities are the same. There's nothing wrong with taking text from other people's website, but at least have the decency to use it as a paraphrase or quote rather than passing it off as your own work.

It doesn't help that some lecturers here love to look at quantity of writing rather than quality. So students are sometimes forced to pad their work with superfluous material that do not add anything other that dead weight to their reports.

I think lecturers should enforce a MAXIMUM page limit rather than a maximum because in doing so, they are actively encouraging students not to plagiarize and pad. The above tool can be immensely helpful to quickly weed out errant reports that takes material from online sources (frequently wikipedia) willy-nilly. After a few times of getting caught, most students will quickly wise up.

Imposition of maximum page limit will also focus the student on producing quality and concise writing, rather than encouraging them to talk at length producing text which end up more confusing than interesting.

I hope more lecturers can take advantage of this free tool and try to root out plagiarism as it is absolutely not doing any good in helping to raise the standard of English in students and the quality of their reports.

This post has been edited by reign226: Mar 26 2009, 03:26 PM

hi there, i am once being assigned to study in UTEM. its 2 years back..guess what? i got the offer by UTEM and turn it down and i re-apply for other public university..omg..the offer still back to me.. the UTEM management call me direct for the second time offering..BuT i of course reject it as my main requiring environment is with chinese...if not mistaken, my intuition told me that UTEM accomodate >90% malay. so just bye bye with it without even step my foot in it.. the course of electrical and electronic engineering is quite cheap somehow in UTEM. in my previous offer, it stated the course fee at 11k++ ONLY...whush...

yea...2 years back the course fee is 11k++...but when i was offered a place back in 2008,the course fee has been increase to 13k(government subsidize 80% of the course fee and we only pay 20%) ...it is expensive .......when i found out that my friends who were offered engineering courses in usm/ukm, their course fee only about 7k+....donno,so confuse.......same cases happen to my friend who study in unimap and uthm,their course is also approx. 13k.......maybe the technical uni course fee is much more higher than the conventional uni lke um/upm/ukm......

majority of the student population is dominated by malay since most of the chinese(base on the reliable sources, 20% of the student population is chinese) are reluctant to accept any so called unfamous university which cannot be compare with the well long establish university such as upm.......however, what can i see here utem is done pretty well.

**fact:many lecturers in mechanical faculty are now in study leave.most of them are study oversea..thus, 1st year students have a very high chances to learn fresh+updated knowledge from these young dedicated lecturers..and we do have lecturer from university of cambridge gives lecture to undergraduate students in mechanical faculty**


This post has been edited by stupidbo: Mar 10 2012, 04:02 PM

haha, many many students also complain about the food in campus..
same as me also, campus food really cannot eat one.. those cafe cincai cook only..

Yes many lecturers like to come to UTeM, teach for a year, then go on study leave >.<. Leaving the students with lousy lecturers as replacement sometimes.

Many of the so-called professors or master graduates can't really teach to be honest. They rely on stolen slides from other lecturers (sometimes within own faculty, sometimes from other universities). I found once before the exact same slides from a diff uni professor, except the original had more stuff whereas the 'altered' version omitted some details and most importantly the cover slide.

And I especially hate certain lecturers who come in for 2 hours, but talk about their personal lives then ask you to go read the slides at home. Or come in and bulldoze their way through the slides as it is obvious that they haven't actually read their own stuff before hand. I don't know what they are busy doing, but it's definitely not teaching!

Every sem I sure will get 1 or 2 of these kinds of people 'lecturing' me. And I always make it a point to give them low marks with reasons during the course evaluation. I'm not sure if anybody actually takes a look at these things, but at least it made me feel better after suffering with them for 20+ weeks.

yeah....i also gives them a very low marks......1 or 2 points out of 5 points which indicates the highest...........this semester, i give 3 subjects the lowest marks out of 7 subjects.........don't know why last semester why i am so generous, rating 4 points for most of the subject......

Haha what lecturer/subject is that? When I first start out I also bodoh bodoh give high high marks for undeserving lecturers. Now i learn my lesson already. Next time should tell your juniors, let them know that if they are unsatisfied, the only way for them to voice it out is through the grading.

You can also write letter to your deparment head with complaint. But not sure if it's 'safe' to do so. Once we had this lecture where they squeezed the entire faculty (5 courses) into two lecture ROOMs. Almost 200+ students, how to fit? The chatter from students alone is enough to drown out the lecturer.

The reason? Because the lecturer want to consolidate the classes, feel that delivering the same lecture again and again is 'waste of time'. WTF? In the end the class is noisy, haphazard and cannot learn anything. No proper facilities basically. If you want to have a lecture-hall style class, make sure its done in an actual lecture hall!

We snapped photos, took videos wanting to show to the department head the situation. But don't know why we never got around to submitting it. Eventually I guessed someone complained, and they split the class into half.

And don't get me started on one lecturer, who proudly proclaims that the will never mark our final papers during the first lecture.

You sometimes wonder how the heck they are even employed.

haih, this type of evaluation form i fill until sien already.. just feel that school are not actually pay attention on it, just done it as a order from higher level only.. those lecturer never have improvement after those evaluation..

so now i already dont waste time on it, cincai fill or not fill, lazy to read it, really waste time..

somemore, the lecturer at me here will revenge one, if you give low grade for him, your final exam sure die hard..

give high grade actually is to protect yourself.. damn disappointed on those useless lecturers.

Hmm...so far I haven't gotten 'revenged' by a lecturer whom I give low marks to. I guess I defended my reasoning with constructive criticisms on how things can be improved rather than to focus on attacking and forcing a point.

It is also very likely that the lecturer did not even read it. Just dump it straight into their trashcan. Or heck maybe they didn't even know such a thing exists. There are still some lecturers out there who dun realize they need to approve their students's subjects during registration week. My friend kena (her PA is department HEAD...and he dunno anything about this. WTF?)

This article sums it all up.

This post has been edited by reign226: Mar 30 2009, 09:06 AM

ya, agree..
those useless lecturers even didnt read it..
i got saw my friend use many time to think about the comment and write the comment on the evaluation form, a long long essay..
he really hope that there is improvement from the lecturer, but his work is all wasted..
damn disappointed already..

nice one reign226...everything u told here happened EXACTLY the same with my class...i guess the rumor about computer student's outspokenly talk back to their lecturer is true...salute!!!

ray148, what rumour? =P

well...it went something like this...there's one lecturer that teach this one class...he has this one bad attitude...teach for like 5 min only...then he's done...
in mid sem, one (or more than one, i dunno) student/s of this class reports his bad behavior to the admin...
this lecturer's approval for further studies got denied...serve him well i guess...but after that the whole class got D+ n below for the subject he teaches...at least that's wut i heard...
it's not ur class now is it??

Haha...that sucks. The person should have kept all the stuff until after the paper then only report to Admin to prevent this kind of revenge thing.

So far I haven't had that kind of experience yet. Although there are a few lecturers that have consistently been complained about (hear stories from seniors). But somehow they are still hanging around wrecking further havoc.

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FKP building finish edi?

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Added on April 7, 2009, 9:18 amhaha.. i'm sick with it, good for me, coz edi grad..

This post has been edited by xixo_12: Apr 7 2009, 09:18 AM

Dun think the FKP building has even started construction yet. Although I spy some buildings now beginning to be put up across the lake. Not sure if it's FKP or not. Hope its not cos it seems so far away. And near to the forest -.-

FKP shud be at main entrance..so lil bit late la

if you look into the map plan pic ,fkm and fkp is located on the bottom right corner.right hand side is the fkm and the left hand side is the fkp. these two faculties are the biggest fac. compare to other fac..

thanks for the pics, they are lovely to show progress of UTeM.

Just had a chat with my LI supervisor. I didn't know FKP dean changed to Dr Rizal already! And next sem FKP sharing the building near FTMK. Might have to do night classes too. Very kelam kabut.

What?night classes?omg....i hope this will not going to happen.....i hate to have classes at night.......last sem i had experience it before......it is tiring after so much lab classes in the morning and afternoon.
hope that this will only apply to fkp student but not the fkm student....then,i can whistle all day long to celebrate

This post has been edited by stupidbo: Apr 7 2009, 04:05 PM

from the pictures posted, looks like your campus quite big also..

night class huh??
i never have any night class at main campus although i study there for 3 year.. policy changes? i don't think so..

last sem i took japanese language from 8pm-10pm. i had no transport and i have to face a dilemma : wait for the bus and go back to the hostel for taking a bath/eat or stay at campus from morning 8am-11++pm.by the time i reach my hostel,it is about 11.45pm if i take the bus.
just imagine this will still happen again for the following sem: everyday travel from our hostel to the main campus.....

access to main campus is restricted from 1900 till 0700

for main campus, all class will end before 1800.. if i not forgoten the last bus will be 1830...(2 years ago..)

However due to the closing down of Cubic and Fasa B, the fact that all FKP, FKM and FTMK will be studying at main campus means that there is a severe logistical problem with not enough classrooms to go around. Although it's still being planning, one of the lecturer in charge of facilities planning informed me that it is quite possible for night classes to happen, although probably not for FKE and FKEKK students as they have their own buildings already.

I hope there are no night classes as well. But I recall some lecturers always like to be absent from classes then call for replacement at night, or some event will happen and force us to take night classes. That won't happen anymore with cubic closing down. Can you imagine the carnage if lecturers are not allowed to do replacement classes at night? This is something they will need to figure out, fast, because night classes have been a staple part of my diet for the past 3 years, mostly due to replacements. Senang senang dahulu, susah susah kemudian mah =)

Every year when new students arrive, it's always fun to watch them struggle with bus, then abandon the system alltogether during their second year. Some even cannot stand it and bring a car over during their 1st year second sem.

Not sure how terrible the bus situation is nowadays, but I'm sure every senior you ask will have their own horror stories to tell you. My senior used to brag to me that UTeM has the largest fleet of busses in all of Malaysia. It sounded nice, but like everything else, cakap tak serupa bikin =P

bus ha?

draw some money from ptptn, suffer a little bit, and take motorcycle..
trust me, it's like a pain from the moment i study, till i already grad.. no improvement, if u have class at main campus, u will die soon if the time not right

Maybe they should revise the starting thread to include starting salaries for fresh grad? I have a feeling many who want to join this industry just want to go for the money, so a lot of questions will be repeated (ala, is this pay good, how is it compared to other companies, etc etc).

Anyway I agree that you should always look towards the future, you have to start somewhere and 2.3K isn't terrible, although it's not terribly great either but it will depend on what you are doing. Construction project is diff from going to offshore project. For one thing, you don't have to travel in a helicopter that can crash into the sea.

If you think the current manufac job has good career progression, then stick with it. For ONG its a different experience and you'll probably have to start all over again and climb the ladder from the bottom, just like everybody else.

Unless u got cable to enter Petronas lah.

btw, where you get the news that cubic and fasa B will closing down? when it start?
i tot it will be start on early 2010.. i dunno policy changed...
because now i having internship.. no news about it... gimme more info about it..

Heard from Dean himself. FKP dean also change to Rizal already. The whole Cubic and Fasa B no more, all shifting to Durian Tunggal. Some say FTMK AI will shift to kampus bandar. Very chaotic now, haha.

It's not so much a policy change as consolidating I guess. Rental for cubic too expensive already I guess. This way the uni can save money. I also having my internship now ma, haha. Ask your lecturer who visiting you these few days for more info la.

my lecturer visit last month lo.. oh no... need share class room lo.. normally i conquer the empty class room when no lecture.. now no more king lo..
btw your name n fac?

Haha I don't think can get that anymore. Plus DT library + comp lab is so lame! Really thinking about what I am going to do there if got 2-3 hour gap...go back cannot, stay there also cannot.

Me? I'm khor from fkp lor

why want to restricted?

they just dont allow us to be there , and main campus is heavily haunted =..=

@reign226

from an unconfirmed source, fkp will be sharing with fkekk while fkm is going to share faculty with fke..just have to wait for next semester to confirm wether its true

Waa, i put my 1st choice for UTeM Mechanical and now i read this =.=!!

@jay

Mechanical's pretty good. Very versatile programme. Why what's wrong?

@Jay
ya...education quality here is very good...if u wan to pursue engineering career that is...u just hav to look past the crappy environment...which i think is getting better year by year...

Actually I'm a bit relieved they finally decided to close down Cubic and Fasa B.

One of the biggest complaints from students of FKP, FKM and FKEKK is that there is no 'uni feel' as we are studying in rented office space. Last time it was worse, as my seniors are studying in rented shoplots. At least now with the move, freshies can finally experience real uni life.

Complete with lousy bus, lousy food and 'stuck in the middle of nowhere' feeling. But hey, you can always marvel at how big the buildings are haha.

People will always find things to complain about. Fact of life.

so assume that i got in this uni, the 1st thing i nid to get is a transport?? any critical thing to remind frm senior-senior sekalian??

Bring lots of food during orientation. Transport should not be a problem. I'm from Sabah and I just tumpang friend's car when he bring over. Heaven granted, it's not going to be hard to find people to carpool with.

And enjoy your orientation basically. The friends you know and make during this critical one week time will be with you for the 4 longest years of your life. So get to know as many people as possible and don't be shy to make friends. Yes, even the facilitators as they are always willing to help out. This year I hear got quite a few cute faci joining, from 1st year and 3rd year students. Lucky la you all! My year faci all is batang =P

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This post has been edited by stupidbo: Sep 20 2012, 07:53 PM

Wah so many ah this year! Good la. 1/3 is not bad considering our numbers are quite low. Are u sure so much? Most of the chinese ppl all balik kampung not interested in this kind of thing one. Maybe my year and the year after that like that. Stupidbo u are 1st year is it?

ya, i am the 1st year student.
from the namelist, 1/3 is good but are they all go for the interview, nobody know......haha.......hope that all did went for the interview.......

oh kie~ i think i will get a bike there haha easier for me to go out makan, btw, just want to know how many of u are studying Mechanical Eng. Major in Thermal and Fluid?

oh no.... fkp share with fkekk.... my king dream no more... oh ya , ah khor, finally i know u by asking ah ken....


jus now who say someone complain that fkekk no uni life ar? y i didnt heard before ler??

jay
u choose thermal fluid as your 1st choice?
if yes,haha...
but if u are lucky ,u might meet other ppl from this course too......haha

This post has been edited by stupidbo: Sep 20 2012, 07:55 PM

Just curious. Been stalked followed UTeM thread for a while now and Reign always mentions about carpool. How about motorcycle? Is it allowed in campus?

This post has been edited by SinnerBuyer: Apr 12 2009, 04:30 AM

Which Ah Ken? Andy Lau? Haha. Actually uni got life no life up to individual. Some ppl always every weekend go out party at Purebar, others (like me) ever get stuck in hostel for 1 month everyday do nothing but watch movie cos holidays din go back and no transport. As long as you have money, there will b no problems.


Carpool easier mah. One car can sumbat 5 or 6 people. Taking motorcycle also can, but Durian Tunggal quite far le. Of course motorcycle are allowed in campus, a LOT of them are always appearing in our uni. Sometimes after class it's like a rempit gang, but actually just people going back. But it's not so comfortable lo. But if you have to choose between being sumbat into a car or taking personal motorcycle, I will choose motorcycle also, haha.

motorcycle is allowed in the campus.what you need to do is just apply the motorcycle sticker and stick it on your lovely motorcycle.if not,haha.....the officer from the utem traffic department will say hello to you and issue you a saman......
last time there are no bumper inside the campus...so you can use it as a racing track......but now i notice there are some bumper inside the campus already......

This post has been edited by stupidbo: Apr 12 2009, 01:20 PM

Only traffic police have a right to issue saman. I take the saman and throw it into rubbish bin only.

forget to say that they will issue you the warning 1st. after 2 warnings ,then you will get the saman

Haha not really. Depend on mood one. My gf got the saman straight after going. And it was for exam some more. She never had to go DT for classes one so it's pretty retarded.

still depend on he pak guard also...guard on the bridge side is less strict than the one near the fkekk/highway side...i drove car to class since 3rd year without sticker...only got warning letter once...

icic, hows the course? i see from the site this course can study about TURBO system rite

yes.during the final year will study turbomachinery. you will learn how turbine machine works such as the turbofan/turbojet for the airplane propulsion, gas/stream turbine using for generating electricity etc.......what you learn in the fluid mechanics,thermodynamics, and aerodynamics will be use to design and analyze the turbine and compressor......


This post has been edited by stupidbo: Apr 13 2009, 02:26 PM

Anybody who applied for utem for this year intake?

application for diploma courses in utem is out...

degree leh?

hey bro.. im offered a place for diploma in electrical eng..

i'd like to know.. are the syllabus thought in english or malay??

and most lecturers are malay rite??

most lecturer are malays, most properly teach in malays, english very few....

batusai
for your info, the syllabus is in english and the teaching should be deliver in english too since the engineering reference books and teaching materials are mainly in english version.however, we found out that only some lecturer using good english when lecture.why?because of the students are weak in english?i personally think that this is the main concern for the lecturer to use malay language in class.

of course most of the lecturers are malay.u are in malaysia,right?haha

All teaching materials are in English, and although exam sheets are bilingual, I think nearly all candidates will answer in English.

In my Faculty most of the lecturers have passable/competant English for the purposes of course presentation, and they can handle deviations from the original topic in Malay, and as the incoming students start getting better in the language, so will the delivery medium start shifting to be more towards English.

But anyway it doesn't bother me that my lecturer deliver in Malay. After all, the terms and lingo are all English anyway (or have a Malay translation that is pretty much mimicking English). But I think more to the point I have relied mostly on the lecture material as my lecturers like to go on endless drivel or offtopic banter. Be careful especially of those Dr. Dr., so far I have only met a handful who have the capacity to stay motivated/concentrate to teach the topic they have been assigned to.

Hi all,

I wanna ask several question bout UTeM. BTW, I'm a sem 4 polytechnic student. My question is,

1) I'm now studying dip in electronic eng (computer) in polytech. So what course is suitable for me?

2) I'm graduating polytech Jun next year. So, can I apply for UTeM with my 5th sem result? Bcoz usually polytech release full transcript in August and the UPU application for diploma student close at end of February. I don't wanna waste my time waiting another year to continue for degree.

3) How much credit I can transfer there?

4) Did all students can stay in hostel until finish study there? Or they need to "sewa rumah" after some year staying at hostel?

Erm, electronic eng can consider FKE or FKEKK. Google is your friend.

Not sure about the application procedures but most of the students are from Poli over here, so I dun see any problems. As usual its best to contact the uni directly for admission procedures.

Credit transfer is on a sem by sem review basis. Some of my friends can transfer, some cannot, this depend on the Dean in charge. Cross your fingers and pray. But at least will be able to transfer 1 year worth of credits.

Compulsory to stay for 2 years, after that they boot you out unless you apply to stay back in hostel. Very easy for malays to get their application approved, from what I heard so should be no problems for u. of course most prefer to stay outside because its less oppressive atmosphere and we can pasang our own internet.

Thanks for da info dude. I was hoping that ex-poli student who study at UTeM to answer it for me. I you don't mind, can U ask some of your friend( ex-poli student, if you have one ) for behalf of me?

Haha I do not have their contacts currently. Not very close with the ex poli students.

You can call up the uni directly and ask. They are quite nice.

Got into UTeM this 28 Jun.
Diploma in Manufacturing Engineering.

I actually wanted to do Form 6 but after I had culture shock from my classmate that is kiasu and talk non stop talking Chinese. 2% Malay ( me only ) and 8 % Indian and 90% are Chinese. What do you expect . At least 40% can speak English fluently. DOTA geng yay
( I'm not racist but you know when Chinese met Chinese they will be bickering in Chinese and not English )
and tormented by teacher asking why did I come back .

Haio why most lecturer are Malay . And I am a Malay .
Hopefully I will get lecturer that talk English better than Malay cause my BM suck in science term la

And I have talk to the official there and they tell me that I have to stay outside campus until next year. And YES they are very nice and helpful.

BTW Quick Question
1. Is UTeM Haunted
2. No girl aio ( Hopefully no Gay )
3. Why are the fees are extremely high Rm 1.5K and UMP is Only RM 0.5K I'm not kidding. Thought no problem with me
4. Got 3G connection
5. Is the library has finished constructed
6. Any tip on food . I'm a big guy with a picky stomach that hate too much spicy and oily food BIG EATER
7. Banking issue. HERE bank Islam service is totally suck but I it really true that I have to pay RM 1 for each transaction made from the CIMB atm there. Since CIMB is service is good and it is a stone throw from my house. Which should I apply ?
8. Got any Japanese club there. I'm learning

Thank You reign226 for posting this helpful guideline for us the NOOB

Haha is it? In Sabah Chinese meet Chinese talk English cos all banana over there, haha. Same in Singapore too, I discover. Guess our students need to be more international a bit.

Manufac Engrg is mostly Malay lecturers talking Malay, for the most part. Not really a problem lah, cos all the material is in English anyway. They just speak Malay for the benefit of those who are not so strong in this language, but I think students nowadays are getting quite proficient in English, leaving the lecturers to catch up.

1) I don't believe in ghosts. And I have yet to hear of any haunting stories.
2) FKP got more girls, and quality ones compared to other faculties. Comparable to FTMK.
3) Not sure about the fees. I heard involves some politics (MPP guy told me) so paham paham la. Anyway its about 15K for the whole course, so just bear with it.
4) 3G? I don't think so. But I am DIGI so not 100% sure. I know u can online from hostel using the 3G wireless modem thingy from Celcom.
5) I believe so. Might delay 1 sem max.
6) Food ah...all malay food le. Sometimes even the malays here also get bored of the food, everyday eat spicy stuff and veggie that is half cooked (I guess they want the ulam taste). I don't know about halal food lah, but usually we will go outside to have decent chinese fare when the malay food gets boring. Also they tend to finish rather quickly. Furthermore next sem all will be at Durian Tunggal in the middle of nowhere so its very hard to get food. Maybe some enterprising businessman will open stalls nearby.
7) Uhh...if you are taking ptptn you have to take bank islam. The ATM will charge you RM1 for every transaction made to other banks. Usually not a problem cos if you stay near MMU, they have ATM nearby for Maybank.
8) You can have one semester of third language for Japanese. There you will see all the cute chinese girls =). Seriously don't know why the chinese girls from semenanjung msia all like to take japanese class. Whatever lah, I'm glad to be the last batch that escaped having to take third language. The clubs or whatever is not really that active here because we used to be split into 2 campus, so hard to coordinate activities. But next sem all will be in 1 campus, maybe we will see more active clubs coming up. But don't count on it, budak UTeM memang pantang extra curricular activities. Anything that we come up with, sure kantoi one.

How come you can stay outside? I thought it is policy for all students to stay in campus 2 years?

Anyway they are nice on the phone only...after u get here...you will experience the typical gov servant attitude 90% of the time. Make u wait for ages, treat u as if u r disturbing their time, etc. Lucky I don't really deal with them except when I am borrowing books from the library or paying my fees.

Anyway welcome to UTeM! Hope you will enjoy your stay here and help make this uni better. We are just ~8 years old, but already producing quality graduates with emphasis on industry.

Come 3rd week of June, I am sure more STPM students will 'discover' more about this uni =). Will try to organize an online chatting session on TinyChat when the time comes.

This post has been edited by reign226: May 25 2009, 08:29 PM

Actually I am a SPM student
Went to Form 6 about a week then finally decided to go to UTeM

The officer said I will be staying at Bukit Beruang which I have wrongly said "outside" campus

Yay got Celcom 3G. If that little thing work then must have coverage for 3G.
Glad that UTeM has no rumour about Ghost. Not like my school SABS eeeeeerie.

Now I can boast to my fren that will joining the FKM that FKP got more girl

UTeM should do more publicity I think everyone asking me
1. Where?
2. IPTS kan ?

Is there anything going on June 3rd there? Cause my intake is on 28 June

a question here..

after i finish my diploma here.. is it possible i can continue my degree n Australia?

not sue if UTEM have tie in with australian universities. You will have to contact the uni in australia to see if its possible or no.

hmm.. my mum tells me to get enrolled for diploma here.. and do my degree in Aus.. i was like woot...

i've got uniten and nottingham offers too.. which i prefer both.. foundation programmes..

Private universities does have its advantages if you have the money to afford for such a service. But as far as I know, you can do your masters pretty much anywhere as long as you demonstrate a good understanding of your studies while in degree level and with a solid Final Year Project. After all, private education nowadays is just a business especially at the postgrad level.