I don't understand why the guys in this thread make it such a big deal untill the extend of cursing TS that her marriage life will not last, when she just pointing out the fact?

it is so obvious rite.. if 2 men put in front for any girl to choose, both share the same standard of look, both love the same, both are sensitive, but one is already financially stable and another one is still struggling, isnt it obvious which 1 a girl will choose?

same goes to you guys wat, both girls for you to choose are equally gentle, nice, caring, but 1 with hot body and angelic face, another one is so so only some more no sense of fashion. which one you go for?

so my point here is, there is no free lunch. do not look down a girl that try to get a man whom is FINANCIALLY STABLE. Like I said, it's not easy to tie the heart of a succesful man, girls have to pay very much effort to keep herself up the standard, if not easily husband go out find ee lai lor like you all said.

same goes to guys, want to have chun and sexy and smart wife, go work harder and earn more money

I'm not being defensive, I am being offensive.

You are defending Moorish's brain fart by giving it a more positive spin than it deserves.

You will notice that Moorish herself, along with many of the women who promote the "money minded" lifestyle, are women who are incapable of earning the same type of money they expect their men to make.

Thus, if she and the others like her truly believed in the value of health, drive and ambition, SHE WOULD BE PRACTICING WHAT SHE PREACHES.

And you know, that's not a tall order. I've met women from here who do exactly this.

When women start to feel the urge to settle down and start a family they WILL start thinking about which men would best provide for one. Moorish's thread is NOT about this.

This thread was written with the absolute neglect of other qualities important for a healthy marriage or relationship, and it encourages the mercenary attitude of trading looks, youth and sex for the highest bidder, hence the instincts of most of the men here are correct when they decry her as just another type of prostitute.

Here is the thing:

Malaysian Chinese say things like "money minded is good" because we are MENTALLY ENSLAVED and understand LITTLE ELSE.

We don't understand the value of community. The majority of us do not understand the inner workings of true power because we have been kept apart from it. We don't even understand what humanity is. In their place, we absorb and repeat simple memes and ideologies like religion or whatever hell else we read from the newspapers. We are the number one consumerist race in the world, and also the most pliable to notions of hierarchy and superiority.

Threads like these show that as a people the Chinese of Malaysia have become by and large complete idiots only able to understand the lowest common denominators of intelligence.

In place of knowledge and understanding, we absorb hearsay, superstition and shallow notions of superiority based on class and race.

We are doomed. More and more of us are descending into ghettoes not just physical but mental, and we are staying there.

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Added on October 4, 2009, 3:42 am

Duke, you defend the ideals behind this thread without understanding that it's a completely different perspective from your own.

You're saying that you started getting ahead and drawing people to you just by changing your attitude.

This is not what this thread is about. This thread is about what men should HAVE, not about who or what they are, and certainly not about their future because according to this thread it does not matter..

Go back and look through Moorish's posts here. In one post she tries to defend her ideology by saying that since a poor guy could cheat on her and use her just as likely as a rich man would, she would rather be cheated on by a rich man.

Moorish is not like you. She is the typical GHETTO CHINESE.

People like her WILL evaluate your worth based only on what you have, and how USEFUL you are to her. She doesn't give two shits about who you are or what your story is.

And believe me, that's not even worth upset or outrage over. Like will find like and people like her will attract exactly who she deserves.

But I'm more concerned about the men here. We are lied to and manipulated by all quarters of society on a daily basis. I shall lift the veil to reveal the lie, by means fair or foul.

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Added on October 4, 2009, 3:55 am

Do you have rich friends?

I do.

They generally fall into one of two categories for the purposes of this thread:

1. Men who want to be appreciated for WHO they are, not for how useful to others they can be. In fact these men demand this.

2. Men who, in their minds, have accepted the reality that all women are whores and nothing more than glorified prostitutes for the depths they can go to just to chase what a "rich" man can provide. This can include money, a lavish lifestyle or even just DRUGS. Bear in mind that because these men came to be where they are through extreme effort and willpower, women like these will NEVER be viewed as peers.

If you're talking about attitude and mentality alone, rich men have basic commonalities with men who are not.

It's obvious that this thread is NOT about attitude or mentality.

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In summary, you and I both know what financial freedom and security can add to a man's life. It is for these reasons that men should pursue financial freedom and security.

NOT BECAUSE "GIRLS ARE MONEY MINDED AND PROUD OF IT".