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 LYN Kancil's Owner Club a.k.a SLK V2~, come come join small lil devil in here~

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post Dec 19 2011, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Dec 19 2011, 12:25 PM)
air filter like kenari?
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IINM yes. Kenaris and Kelisas have filters for their air conditioning.
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post Dec 19 2011, 05:50 PM

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Hi guys... going for puspakom check this week to endorse my engine... my foremen said that no need to change to rear disc brake... just tighten the drum will do... mine is jbjl from l6....
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post Dec 19 2011, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(budakhops @ Dec 19 2011, 05:50 PM)
Hi guys... going for puspakom check this week to endorse my engine... my foremen said that no need to change to rear disc brake... just tighten the drum will do... mine is jbjl from l6....
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Nice. How much for the halfcut + workmanship if I may ask?
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post Dec 19 2011, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(budakhops @ Dec 19 2011, 05:50 PM)
Hi guys... going for puspakom check this week to endorse my engine... my foremen said that no need to change to rear disc brake... just tighten the drum will do... mine is jbjl from l6....
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Show some pictar...
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post Dec 20 2011, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Dec 19 2011, 09:02 PM)
Nice. How much for the halfcut + workmanship if I may ask?
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halfcut + workmanship around 3.5k...

QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Dec 19 2011, 09:29 PM)
Show some pictar...
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post Dec 20 2011, 06:39 AM

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woot nice engine.. smooth!!

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post Dec 20 2011, 01:04 PM

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Time to open new version already TS.. laugh.gif
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post Dec 20 2011, 07:09 PM

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What is de main different between L5 and L6??? Can anyone pls advice me whether should or not modify L5 doortrim in to me kancil??? Really very tempting... hmmm..............
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post Dec 20 2011, 08:02 PM

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want to ask, can recommend good spray shop ? nak spray my kancil 850, original color silver, if want to change to other colour, dalam dan luar, how much it will be ? area klang, or shah alam ..


Added on December 20, 2011, 8:03 pm
QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Dec 8 2011, 08:15 PM)
If you're installing speakers at the door, don't forget to install a shroud or a cover to ensure that rainwater does not get into contact with your speakers, since the weatherguard plastic does not cover that area.

I went to howiechoo's, and he installed a piece of bitumen strip right above it so the water does not trail down onto the speaker. Works well so far smile.gif
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patut la my speaker masuk air ! doh.gif doh.gif

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post Dec 20 2011, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(ving0829 @ Dec 20 2011, 07:09 PM)
What is de main different between L5 and L6??? Can anyone pls advice me whether should or not modify L5 doortrim in to me kancil??? Really very tempting... hmmm..............
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L5 is mira but L6 is move.... but the engine code is the same, 4piston jb-jl...
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post Dec 21 2011, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(budakhops @ Dec 20 2011, 11:44 PM)
L5 is mira but L6 is move.... but the engine code is the same, 4piston jb-jl...
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Nice.. its just like installing kenari engine right? Puspakom approve kah? Planning to swap a kenari or move engine in my oil leaking kancil..
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post Dec 21 2011, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(budakhops @ Dec 20 2011, 11:44 PM)
L5 is mira but L6 is move.... but the engine code is the same, 4piston jb-jl...
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IINM I read that there was a regulation that all kei cars in Japan had to be on 3 cylinder engines. The Move is classified kei as well, but 4 pistons?
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post Dec 21 2011, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Dec 21 2011, 12:08 AM)
Nice.. its just like installing kenari engine right? Puspakom approve kah? Planning to swap a kenari or move engine in my oil leaking kancil..
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Can put kenari or kelisa engine in kancil. But if ur ori engine is 850cc, can put 1000cc engine inside.. Puspakom approve.. At the workshop where i sent my kancil, there is 1 kancil already put 1.0 dvvt viva engine inside..

L5 & L6 also got 3piston engine code ef-rl.. This engine is much more popular here coz the turbo can kacuk with kelisa or kenari 1.0cc block.. Can make 1000t..

This thread already reach 2.5k post.. Need to open a new thread...
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post Dec 22 2011, 03:47 PM

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kancil 850 auto 99' if i din change the blower what will happened? it will cost me RM 180 denso ori + labour is it ok??

if i on air-cond, the radio got issue, if i close air-cond then ok but now the steering there got the a bit vibrate sound due 2 the blower.
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post Dec 22 2011, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(budakhops @ Dec 21 2011, 02:53 PM)
Can put kenari or kelisa engine in kancil. But if ur ori engine is 850cc, can put 1000cc engine inside.. Puspakom approve.. At the workshop where i sent my kancil, there is 1 kancil already put 1.0 dvvt viva engine inside..

L5 & L6 also got 3piston engine code ef-rl.. This engine is much more popular here coz the turbo can kacuk with kelisa or kenari 1.0cc block.. Can make 1000t..

This thread already reach 2.5k post.. Need to open a new thread...
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I heard my uncle said my Kancil 660 cant directly swap to kenari engine because it will jump from 660cc to 1000cc. Its a big gap. He ask me to jump to 850 first, few years later jump to 1000. Because jump directly got charge or what. Btw, usually how much does the installation charge of swapping engine?
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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Dec 22 2011, 08:10 PM)
I heard my uncle said my Kancil 660 cant directly swap to kenari engine because it will jump from 660cc to 1000cc. Its a big gap. He ask me to jump to 850 first, few years later jump to 1000. Because jump directly got charge or what. Btw, usually how much does the installation charge of swapping engine?
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right now cannot already.. because if the body is originally 660cc.. it can only change to 850cc. to 1000cc cannot even though u already change to 850cc bcoz jpj will follow the original cc for that body..
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post Dec 22 2011, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(budakhops @ Dec 22 2011, 10:42 PM)
right now cannot already.. because if the body is originally 660cc.. it can only change to 850cc. to 1000cc cannot even though u already change to 850cc bcoz jpj will follow the original cc for that body..
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In this case i still want to keep my kancil.. either put in a 2nd hand stock 850 engine or L2 660 turbo? Which one you recommend? I travel around 20km daily and usually travel around 80km/h.. which one can last long and less maintanence?
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post Dec 23 2011, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Dec 22 2011, 11:26 PM)
In this case i still want to keep my kancil.. either put in a 2nd hand stock 850 engine or L2 660 turbo? Which one you recommend? I travel around 20km daily and usually travel around 80km/h.. which one can last long and less maintanence?
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IINM the only difference of the 660 and 850 engine is the stroke length - I'm not too good in engine technicalities but you might not have to swap the whole engine just for the 850.

I was considering an L2 as well, but driving on NS Highway today changed my mind. Was cruising at 110km/h when a container truck zoomed right beside me, veering my car.

No matter how powerful the engine can be, the car is simply just too light. I'd rather pump that money for the L2 for a better car nod.gif
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post Dec 23 2011, 12:03 PM

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kancils are light. yes. is it so light that a strong gush of wind will blow your car off the ground kinda light? no.

i dont mean to sound harsh, until this day, i still do not understand why is being a light car an issue? is a heavier car better? heavier car needs more torque which in turn needs more power and more fuel and more money and the list goes on.

is being light equates to being prone to spinning out and turtle-ing? no. i have seen my fair share of kancils and wiras and a heck of alot of cars doing amazing acrobats. huge trucks passing by? in my vios is does the same. its a mammoth. its heavy. i dont think its a prob.

and that is a plus point that any street car would love and die for. put this into perspective. having a kancil L2 turbo or L5 turbo for that matter, is a nice car to play on the weekends.

and Aquariusdenz,

i'd say forget the 850 carby. its a waste. unless your talking about inserting the block in to up the CC. and L2 engines (as i have checked last) are still available, at a reasonable price. but i have seen many getting overhauls and etc does to bad condition engines. invest in a L5 3 cyl or 4 cyl up to u. speaking from experience, the L5 jbjl 4 cyl has given me no prob for a daily car. even now as a weekend piece.

if there's the fear of veering out of control, after converting the engine or even before or whatever the fear may be, i seriously think its OVER THINKING. and my advise is to ACTUALLY try driving a converted kancil and getting a feel of it. a converted kancil, with proper braking, with proper tires, is fine. its fun. its so fun, its rebecca black friday fun fun fun.

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post Dec 23 2011, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(fluffy6640 @ Dec 23 2011, 12:03 PM)
kancils are light. yes. is it so light that a strong gush of wind will blow your car off the ground kinda light? no.

i dont mean to sound harsh, until this day, i still do not understand why is being a light car an issue? is a heavier car better? heavier car needs more torque which in turn needs more power and more fuel and more money and the list goes on.

is being light equates to being prone to spinning out and turtle-ing? no. i have seen my fair share of kancils and wiras and a heck of alot of cars doing amazing acrobats. huge trucks passing by? in my vios is does the same. its a mammoth. its heavy. i dont think its a prob.

and that is a plus point that any street car would love and die for. put this into perspective. having a kancil L2 turbo or L5 turbo for that matter, is a nice car to play on the weekends.

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In response to light cars, I love pocket rockets. I would take a Kancil any time if the weight and safety factor wasn't thrown into the mix. It's so much cheaper to run, the size makes parking snappy but you might want to reason with other points as well?

Heavier cars eat more fuel and drag more weight, but the weight certainly helps when it comes down to safety. The threshold of stability is much lower on low cars at high speed, hence the taking-off feeling. 'High speed' is subjective anyway, but its only at 110km/h and the steering turns light - the error tolerance is so small that one mistake or any external forces (trucks, crosswinds) is enough to cause a major accident. Add rain and that tiny gap shrinks by another half.

I've had my share of experience with a few cars, notably the Golf TSI, Peugeot 206CC, a 1967 VW Beetle, a Laser TX3 with a B8 plonked inside, an Alfa Romeo 168 to note a few, which greatly adds pages to my definition of stability in my book.

Now let's say you souped up your ride, made it nice and heavy and all. Doors open and close with a solid thud, bonnet doesn't echo like a empty barrel. But that does not change the track and wheelbase, an inherent property which greatly influences the quality and stability of the car. To keep it simple, cars with shorter tracks would apply more pressure onto its contact points - the wheels. A good analogy would be driving a small and large nail with the same amount of force, which the smaller nail sinks in faster than the other due to its concentration to a much smaller area. As such, it is very easy to overload the brake systems of small cars. 2 pot calipers and bigger disc brakes only play so little in the entire playground of vehicle stability. Then again, what disc sizes can you fit inside those tiny wheels?

But back to my point. It's all this and more which contributes to my decision to get a new, bigger sized car. But fluffy6640, no harm taken. I've put many years into this car that I only have, but time to move on when I can smile.gif

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