Dec 23 2011, 04:00 PM
QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Dec 23 2011, 02:41 PM)
In response to light cars, I love pocket rockets. I would take a Kancil any time if the weight and safety factor wasn't thrown into the mix. It's so much cheaper to run, the size makes parking snappy but you might want to reason with other points as well?
Heavier cars eat more fuel and drag more weight, but the weight certainly helps when it comes down to safety. The threshold of stability is much lower on low cars at high speed, hence the taking-off feeling. 'High speed' is subjective anyway, but its only at 110km/h and the steering turns light - the error tolerance is so small that one mistake or any external forces (trucks, crosswinds) is enough to cause a major accident. Add rain and that tiny gap shrinks by another half.
in terms of the steering getting light during high speeds, im pretty sure its attributed to the stock 12" wheels perodua calls "RIMS"
those are basically bicycle wheels. nothing a 13" 5.5jj set of wheels and possibly a slightly lower ride wont fix.
I've had my share of experience with a few cars, notably the Golf TSI, Peugeot 206CC, a 1967 VW Beetle, a Laser TX3 with a B8 plonked inside, an Alfa Romeo 168 to note a few, which greatly adds pages to my definition of stability in my book.
no arguements here. haha! but i'd defend my lil weekend junk by saying, simply with a lower ride, front strut bar its all good.
Now let's say you souped up your ride, made it nice and heavy and all. Doors open and close with a solid thud, bonnet doesn't echo like a empty barrel. But that does not change the track and wheelbase, an inherent property which greatly influences the quality and stability of the car. To keep it simple, cars with shorter tracks would apply more pressure onto its contact points - the wheels. A good analogy would be driving a small and large nail with the same amount of force, which the smaller nail sinks in faster than the other due to its concentration to a much smaller area. As such, it is very easy to overload the brake systems of small cars. 2 pot calipers and bigger disc brakes only play so little in the entire playground of vehicle stability. Then again, what disc sizes can you fit inside those tiny wheels?
for me, a solid thud quality is not important. if it closes, thats all that matters. kancils are kancils. never gonna get a solid thud.
brakes wise, with a 13" rims, u can fit in an L5 disc. bitting power does not matter how worth the discs are, but are your calipers working properly. never use dot 3. always use at least dot 4. more over, as the car is light, enormous stopping power is not needed. another plus pont.
But back to my point. It's all this and more which contributes to my decision to get a new, bigger sized car. But fluffy6640, no harm taken. I've put many years into this car that I only have, but time to move on when I can
im glad i have found one of the few forummers who actually have valid points to discuss on. thank you for that
and yes, no doubt, a kancil will always be a kancil, its light. its makes a shitty dail ride. hahaha! dont hold back on moving on with a nicer car, i did too. but my point im trying to make is that, kancils are light. take it as an advantage. not a disadvantage.
Heavier cars eat more fuel and drag more weight, but the weight certainly helps when it comes down to safety. The threshold of stability is much lower on low cars at high speed, hence the taking-off feeling. 'High speed' is subjective anyway, but its only at 110km/h and the steering turns light - the error tolerance is so small that one mistake or any external forces (trucks, crosswinds) is enough to cause a major accident. Add rain and that tiny gap shrinks by another half.
in terms of the steering getting light during high speeds, im pretty sure its attributed to the stock 12" wheels perodua calls "RIMS"
those are basically bicycle wheels. nothing a 13" 5.5jj set of wheels and possibly a slightly lower ride wont fix.I've had my share of experience with a few cars, notably the Golf TSI, Peugeot 206CC, a 1967 VW Beetle, a Laser TX3 with a B8 plonked inside, an Alfa Romeo 168 to note a few, which greatly adds pages to my definition of stability in my book.
no arguements here. haha! but i'd defend my lil weekend junk by saying, simply with a lower ride, front strut bar its all good.
Now let's say you souped up your ride, made it nice and heavy and all. Doors open and close with a solid thud, bonnet doesn't echo like a empty barrel. But that does not change the track and wheelbase, an inherent property which greatly influences the quality and stability of the car. To keep it simple, cars with shorter tracks would apply more pressure onto its contact points - the wheels. A good analogy would be driving a small and large nail with the same amount of force, which the smaller nail sinks in faster than the other due to its concentration to a much smaller area. As such, it is very easy to overload the brake systems of small cars. 2 pot calipers and bigger disc brakes only play so little in the entire playground of vehicle stability. Then again, what disc sizes can you fit inside those tiny wheels?
for me, a solid thud quality is not important. if it closes, thats all that matters. kancils are kancils. never gonna get a solid thud.
brakes wise, with a 13" rims, u can fit in an L5 disc. bitting power does not matter how worth the discs are, but are your calipers working properly. never use dot 3. always use at least dot 4. more over, as the car is light, enormous stopping power is not needed. another plus pont.
But back to my point. It's all this and more which contributes to my decision to get a new, bigger sized car. But fluffy6640, no harm taken. I've put many years into this car that I only have, but time to move on when I can
im glad i have found one of the few forummers who actually have valid points to discuss on. thank you for that
and yes, no doubt, a kancil will always be a kancil, its light. its makes a shitty dail ride. hahaha! dont hold back on moving on with a nicer car, i did too. but my point im trying to make is that, kancils are light. take it as an advantage. not a disadvantage.
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