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post Mar 15 2009, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 15 2009, 09:53 AM)
Hmm yes we have been waiting for no.19 for a long time now, and yes we had high hopes of winning in Athens but in the end, we are still here through rain or shine. i certainly hope no poster has come over to taunt you lot. I'm wondering though why you can't accept the defeat but instead have to start mocking us even when unprovoked? I said to Corez in Breakers that in the end, the title is yours but it takes nothing away from the fact that this was a morale boosting win for us. Well if it's any consolation then do what you must I suppose... I think it's important to be gracious in defeat but that's just me. I don't speak on behalf of everyone Liverpool fan or not.
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Why so sensitive Duke? There were A LOT of posters coming out of nowhere taunted last nite. Alien 'washed' the thread every now and then due to that. Certainly, if you check my posts(albeit in here and your thread) were all saying Pool played brilliantly last night. All hats to your team. I even congratulated my friends, Pool fans on the win. Yes it is disappointing to see fans leaving Old Trafford last night but hey they aren't us, aren't they?

All in all, how disappointing it is to lose to an arch-rival but I am grateful that we lost. So that the players could be brainwashed by SAF again. A reality check for them. So savour your moments. Don't be so judgemental. Credits is given where it is due.

Anyhoo, great to know that you meet up with United fans last nite. Would be there myself but can't due to work. Been cursing since the schedule was printed.

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post Mar 15 2009, 10:10 AM

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football is like that la.....especially when there is intensive rivalry....

last season, after you guys walloped us at OT, someone here put a picture of Mascherano as siggy and called him crazy.......(the red card incident)...
some Liverpool fans tried to come here and said its not a nice thing to do....but were ridiculed...

anyway, look at the big picture...the title is still yours to lose....

I told my friends last night victory was bitter sweet for me....We defeated Chelsea and MU TWICE...and yet, will probably end up empty handed this season...

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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Mar 15 2009, 10:05 AM)
Why so sensitive Duke? There were A LOT of posters coming out of nowhere taunted last nite. Alien 'washed' the thread every now and then due to that. Certainly, if you check my posts(albeit in here and your thread) were all saying Pool played brilliantly last night. All hats to your team. I even congratulated my friends, Pool fans on the win. Yes it is disappointing to see fans leaving Old Trafford last night but hey they aren't us, aren't they?

All in all, how disappointing it is to lose to an arch-rival but I am grateful that we lost. So that the players could be brainwashed by SAF again. A reality check for them. So savour your moments. Don't be so judgemental. Credits is given where it is due.
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Like I said, I was hoping our posters didn't come over but it looks like they did. Sensitive? Can't help it mate. I can't begin to describe the emotional turmoil I feel as a Liverpool fan. You may say that some accepted the defeat with dignity but I see a whole lot of anti-Liverpool sentiments and it's not even relevant to the game last night. I don't speak on behalf of all fans, just myself.

As for the picture of the bus, well I thought it was common sense that it had to be painted before the game, in anticipation of the team returning the next day. Then again I have no idea how long it takes do I? I could just as well counter it with a picture of our fans staying all the way until the end to applaud AC Milan as they went up to claim their winners medals but what would be the point?

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post Mar 15 2009, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 15 2009, 09:53 AM)
Hmm yes we have been waiting for no.19 for a long time now, and yes we had high hopes of winning in Athens but in the end, we are still here through rain or shine. i certainly hope no poster has come over to taunt you lot. I'm wondering though why you can't accept the defeat but instead have to start mocking us even when unprovoked? I said to Corez in Breakers that in the end, the title is yours but it takes nothing away from the fact that this was a morale boosting win for us. Well if it's any consolation then do what you must I suppose... I think it's important to be gracious in defeat but that's just me. I don't speak on behalf of everyone Liverpool fan or not.
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I dont know you personally Duke but as I've repeatedly pointed out you're one of the few Pool fans that I can stand and tolerate seeing that you're a very level headed person. Don't blame anyone for enjoying the win, hell it's a win against your bitter, bitter rivals. Who wouldn't enjoy it?? I bloody hell know I would. There was a few who came ontot here from what I saw, taunting saying that was definitely number 19, something along those lines. That I find funny as hell. A double over us yes, a double over Chelski yes....but what's to prevent another feckup?? And I'm not saying that just for Pool. We might feck up to. Point being, it's still a very level playing field with us, AT THE MOMENT havng an advantage still but there's still what, 30 points or so more on offer?? Plenty of room for feckups by either side.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 15 2009, 10:10 AM)
You may say that some accepted the defeat with dignity but I see a whole lot of anti-Liverpool sentiments and it's not even relevant to the game last night. I don't speak on behalf of all fans, just myself.
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of course you'll see some of that from our side, and also from ur side. they are the other class of supporter la. we, on the other hand are the glory hunters better judgmental supporters tongue.gif
so lets just ignore and report the trolls la. ahaha
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QUOTE(air_mood @ Mar 15 2009, 10:12 AM)
I dont know you personally Duke but as I've repeatedly pointed out you're one of the few Pool fans that I can stand and tolerate seeing that you're a very level headed person. Don't blame anyone for enjoying the win, hell it's a win against your bitter, bitter rivals. Who wouldn't enjoy it?? I bloody hell know I would. There was a few who came ontot here from what I saw, taunting saying that was definitely number 19, something along those lines.
Well that's just them being dellusional. Like I said almost a month ago, the fan lady has already recorded an album.


Added on March 15, 2009, 10:16 amOh well I'm off to basketball now. I know one of my manc mates there will not relish seeing me which is my driving inspiration for going despite suffering from a hangover smile.gif

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this game serve a warning to united players that they still not the best although won the fifa world club cup and carling cup ...

fergie already warn them after the inter game but looks like no change ...


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Delusion, that's something that I can't stand. Even from my own fans. Irritates the hell out of me. Hence why I've never really liked all this bullcrap Quadruple, Quintuple, Sextuple talk. Builds up unnecessary expectations leaving a lot of room for disappointment. We know there's load of pricks on here who sticks with the team when we win and fecks off when we lose. This will probably flush them out then.

As much as I like to think the league is a foregone conclusion, plenty can happen still. Like I said, plenty of room for feckups.
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post Mar 15 2009, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(air_mood @ Mar 15 2009, 10:19 AM)
Delusion, that's something that I can't stand. Even from my own fans. Irritates the hell out of me. Hence why I've never really liked all this bullcrap Quadruple, Quintuple, Sextuple talk. Builds up unnecessary expectations leaving a lot of room for disappointment. We know there's load of pricks on here who sticks with the team when we win and fecks off when we lose. This will probably flush them out then.

As much as I like to think the league is a foregone conclusion, plenty can happen still. Like I said, plenty of room for feckups.
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if MU does `feckup' in the title charge this season...it will be one of the biggest one! But as a Pool fan, `I'll luv it if they do...'

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A very disappointing display from the defenders. MU could have done better. sad.gif
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post Mar 15 2009, 10:34 AM


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damn cant read KOSMO today...
headlines for the sport section "LIVERPOOL HINA MANCHESTER"
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post Mar 15 2009, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(roti-terbakar @ Mar 15 2009, 03:44 AM)
lol sinoffire same pose only~
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too devastated edi.....haih...malas nak posing ler...

QUOTE(maxizanc @ Mar 15 2009, 03:50 AM)
Unfortunately many people were fooled. At first i believe he's a she. Then after a while, some people keep calling her as 'bro' then i know something fishy sweat.gif I donno whose plan it was from doh.gif Btw, whoopa, you're still hot. LOL
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muahahhaaaa....and i thot u alrdy knew it....dah kena dah..... laugh.gif laugh.gif j/k j/k...u shud see corez's face when he sees whoopa real face, eventhough he knew whoopa is a guy 1st hand....hahahah....classic. i shuda snap that moment. whistling.gif

QUOTE(b00n @ Mar 15 2009, 04:31 AM)
Don't know bout you guys; I don't think the 2 penalty should be a penalty at all. My view lar...
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both imo are 50/50, but due the position of the ref at time of incident, both will be penalties.

just my 2 cents.

QUOTE(waif @ Mar 15 2009, 08:14 AM)
But as MU fans, the is always the old saying, MU always like to do it the hard way. IMO, I think we'll be having the last laugh come end of May.
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and pool always like to do it from behind. tongue.gif

QUOTE(boxsystem @ Mar 15 2009, 09:45 AM)
letak ubat gigi kat mata kalau brani. mata merah ... konpem dapat MC at least 3 ari .. hahahah.  laugh.gif
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ko pernah cuba ke?? sweat.gif sweat.gif

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seems like some cleaning has been done over the nite eh?? poor ol' alien.

NOW, I PROPOSE NX GATH AT STEVEN'S CORNER. ANYONE? NOT 'JINX VENUE' HARTAMAS SQUARE ANYMORE.
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QUOTE(nando @ Mar 15 2009, 10:26 AM)
if MU does `feckup' in the title charge this season...it will be one of the biggest one!  But as a Pool fan, i can definitely day `I'll luv it if they do...'
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Comparable with 97-98 and 01-02 season, seen it all and hopefully not this season flex.gif
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Defensively, I think this is the worst performance after the 4-3 result against Hull City rclxub.gif

Credits to LIV, they are definitely the deserved winner on the night but for them to do a double on us, its hard to swallow. Just like what Man City did to us last season.

But like what SAF, the team must now respond to the latest defeat:

Boss demands a response

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Sir Alex Ferguson rued defensive errors against Liverpool, but refused to castigate Nemanja Vidic and says his side will now do one thing: respond.

United have become accustomed to having things their own way at Old Trafford this season, so defeat – and 4-1 to our fiercest rivals – sticks in the throat. “It’s difficult to defend a 4-1 defeat. We got in front and then threw the game away. It’s a hard one to take,” admitted the boss. “But at this club it’s always about how you respond. When you lose a game: respond. And that is what we will do.”

Vidic made an error for Liverpool’s first goal, and his second-half sending off for a foul on Steven Gerrard led to their third goal on the way to an embarrassing scoreline. But Sir Alex didn't stick the boot in. “Nemanja has been unbelievably consistent for us this season. Players do have off days, and he’s made a mistake. He’s a human being, all players make mistakes. It’s just a costly one for us.”

The United boss didn’t have any complaints about the Serbian’s sending off. “It looked as if he [Gerrard] was clear to have a shot at goal. Whether Rio could have got across, I don’t know. I couldn't really argue with the decision. We’d have been looking for a red card if it was against us.

“It was one of those days, we made uncharacteristic mistakes. In big games you don’t want to do that. If you see the consistency of our defending over the last two years, you don’t expect it. If you win 4-1 at Old Trafford you deserve the plaudits, you can’t deny Liverpool that.

“But if the league was starting today, you’d take a four-point advantage with a game in hand. The goal difference is narrowed, it’s only five goals now. It was a bad day, but we have to kick on."


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Park: Forget and move on

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Ji-sung Park says the Reds must forget the 4-1 defeat and remember that the league title is still in United's hands.

Park was one of United's best players during the defeat to Liverpool at Old Trafford. While he was disappointed with the result, Park and team-mates will only be looking forward.

"Obivously it's not a good result for us," he told ManUtd.kr. "But the league is not over and we're still top.

"If we produce good performances, like we have been doing, for the rest of our league games then this defeat will not be a big problem."

United now have a week to prepare before the next Premier League match away to Fulham on Saturday. It's a time for reflection, but not too much reflection.

“We don’t have a match until next weekend, so it’s good that we can take some rest and get ready to play Fulham," Ji added. "We must forget about this result, because next weekend I am sure we will be back with a good performance.

“We have about ten league matches left, so from now on it is really important that we win our games, and to win the title, we have to play well."


http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...&newsid=6628997

Rio rues 'critical' moment

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For Rio Ferdinand, the disappointing defeat to Liverpool had an obvious game-breaking moment.

With 15 minutes left and United piling on the pressure at 2-1 down, Nemanja Vidic was shown a straight red for bringing down Steven Gerrard, and Fabio Aurelio curled home the killer third goal from the resultant free-kick.

"It was a nervy start from both teams but we took the lead and started to get a foot in the game," Ferdinand told MUTV.  "Even when they were 2-1 up, we started to turn the screw in the second half and Carlos Tevez had a half-chance.

"But the sending-off and third goal came at a really critical time. I thought the referee's decision to send Vida off was debatable as I could have got over there to cover."

Another possible turning point came in the first half, when United were leading through Cristiano Ronaldo's penalty, as Vidic's mistake allowed Fernando Torres to pounce.

But Ferdinand refused to castigate his fellow centre-back, saying: "Vida has been one of our most consistent players this season and everyone is allowed to make a mistake, so we won’t be getting on his back."

Ferdinand even managed to take a postive from what was a distinctly bad day at the office, adding: "Losing any game is disappointing, losing to your big rivals is even worse and the scoreline compounds that.

"But we have to turn this into a positive. This game will have torn out any sub-conscious complacency there may have been. We got a rude awakening today that if we don’t go out and work hard as a collective unit then we won’t get the results.

"We now have time to dust ourselves down and get our minds on the game against Fulham next week. It would have been nice if that game was right round the corner but we have to deal with what’s in front of us."


http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...&newsid=6628933
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Mar 15 2009, 10:36 AM)
seems like some cleaning has been done over the nite eh?? poor ol' alien.
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Sure I did and still doing it right now wink.gif

I can see some posters [regardless what club he/she supported] coming in here to taunt the posters. Please kindly refrain yourselves from replying smile.gif

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I have no idea why, but I was dreaming that the reason why we lost was because Wayne Rooney became goalkeeper, and VDS got sent off.

Wtf.

But anyway, a disappointing lost, on home grounds. This is madness. If it's at Anfield, I don't mind, but in Old Trafford? Merepekdiculous dammit.

I didn't get to see the match, because I was stuck watching AF7, but I only watched for a brief moment where the scoreline was 1-1. Meh, I didn't expect things to turn out this way.

Another anyway, Manucho made a cameo for Hull. Yay woo!



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I read the Goal.com piece but were we tired physically/mentally? Rooney, Tevez, Ronaldo, Park, Anderson and Carrick all looked very fresh. :S
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i didnt know why on the earth, SAF did some changes, bringin in Ando and left out the like scholes, fletcher and giggs. where they can partner well with Carrick in the center atm.
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Mar 15 2009, 10:52 AM)
I read the Goal.com piece but were we tired physically/mentally? Rooney, Tevez, Ronaldo, Park, Anderson and Carrick all looked very fresh. :S
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I don't think fatigue is much of the issue. More of complacency starting to creap into some of their minds with some of them started to say things about quadruple/etc [especially Rooney with his "big mouth" statement] sweat.gif

Its very rare to see Vidic performed so below par eh? sweat.gif Before the game, Jamie Reeves was praising how Vidic is the no nonsense CB who will just clear the danger away without doing anything fancy/exceed his ability. What was he trying to do that led to the Torres's goal? icon_question.gif

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