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post Jul 10 2014, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(HandsomeDupe @ Jul 10 2014, 12:52 PM)
Wow, big thanks for the list.

I will do some little research and definitely will visit those places after Nuang.
But those places has it's own campsite or we need to open it on my own ?
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Already have their own campsite. Better you hike with someone who are familiar with the track unless you have self confident. Feel free to ask and I will revert.
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post Jul 10 2014, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(HandsomeDupe @ Jul 10 2014, 03:28 PM)
Thanks, will do.
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Gunung Suku is the easiest among all I mentioned
http://mchiker.blogspot.com/2013/07/gunung...ands-perak.html



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post Jul 10 2014, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(HandsomeDupe @ Jul 10 2014, 03:54 PM)
Since you mention about the difficulty, can you please help me to rate those mountains so I can plan my hikes accordingly

from 1 (easiest) to 10 (hardest)

Gunung Yellow [3] (4)
Gunung Suku [3] (4)
Bukit Kutu @ KKB [3] (5)
Gunung Ulu Semangkok @ Fraser [3] (3)
Pine Tree Trail & Twin Peak @ Fraser [4] (5)
Gunung Bunga Buah @ Genting [3] (4)
Gunung Nuang [5] (7) till peak with water resource from Lolo Camp instead of Pacat as some not sure where it is
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Daytrip [ ] or camping ( )?

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post Jul 11 2014, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(HandsomeDupe @ Jul 10 2014, 07:03 PM)
Thanks again. Seems like you are a seasoned mountaineer here.
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Semi retired smile.gif But I can share with you the coordinates if I could still remember them. If got time once a while I will join.
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post Jul 17 2014, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(HandsomeDupe @ Jul 17 2014, 11:39 AM)
I managed to get the coordinates from google.

Btw any advice for the public transport from KL (KL sentral) to gunung Nuang ?
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Rapid KL U412, but uncertain the exact time of arrival.

http://www.myrapid.com.my/bus/rapidkl/routes
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post Jul 18 2014, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(Resha Valentine @ Jul 17 2014, 08:16 PM)
Gunung Yellow [3] (4)
Gunung Suku [3] (4)
Bukit Kutu @ KKB [3] (5)
Gunung Ulu Semangkok @ Fraser [3] (3)
Pine Tree Trail & Twin Peak @ Fraser [4] (5)
Gunung Bunga Buah @ Genting [3] (4)
Gunung Nuang [5] (7)

yeah i really wanna try! this list mentioned ^ wouldn't be too hard for daytrips rite? i mean like do i need to bring some more stuff (that are not required for hills)?  sweat.gif
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What kind of stuff you are referring to?
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post Jul 18 2014, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(hoiho @ Jul 17 2014, 11:20 PM)
@aidono, you are very right. Trekking from Senaru would be a better choice and I believe the view of Mt Rinjani and crater lake is better.

We summit from Sembalun campsite and the guide informed us we must return by 9am else we would have problem reaching the Senaru crater rim campsite. The route to Senaru is tougher than summit trail. Is that true? Gradient steeper? More loose sand?

The visibility was low and due to time constraint, I decided not to continue. Around 1 hr / 300m below the peak. We then went to the hot spring for lunch and back. damn tired. Btw, it's a g good experience.
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If you are to trek to Senaru Campsite without camping a night in the campsite, then I will have to agree with him that 9 AM you have to start to make your move.

Route to Senaru is easier than the summit trail. Summit terrain is loose soil/sand + volcanic ash. From lake to Senaru crater is slight flat terrain follow with boulders/rocks gradient.

Most people opt to camp a night near the lake to enjoy the hot spring instead rush to Senaru. 3 days 2 nights could be too tired for some. 4 days 3 nights just nice. 5 days 4 nights for those who want to camp the additional day at Senaru to witness the sunrise.
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post Jul 18 2014, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Resha Valentine @ Jul 18 2014, 06:47 PM)
err like usually for normal hill hikes (saga, tabur etc) i just bring water, snacks and some 'girl's stuff'...do i need to bring anything extra for the mountains? like suku, nuang etc. cuz i havent hiked any mountains before bsides kinabalu  sweat.gif
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As long it is a daypack, very minimal. But just in case, do carry a headlamp with spare batteries and a whistle at all time. They come in handy when you got lost in the forest.
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post Jul 21 2014, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jul 19 2014, 11:28 PM)
First aid kit and an extra jacket could be very useful too.
It might get a little chilly at the summit when you have rested.

Looks like I'm going to attempt G.liang and G.Yong Belar soon
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Gunung Yong Belar is easy. Just enjoy the slippery water pipes before hiking through 7 small peaks before reaching campsite to sleep a night before head to the peak next morning. Not much of the view since the trees are pretty dense up there. On the way back you could drop by to Gunung Warpu which is about 30-45 minutes from the fork junction on the left.

Gunung Liang you will definitely enjoy those tiger leeches. You will be loving them since their bites are pretty obvious when they strike. I love Gunung Liang campsite, huge and near to water source easily can accommodate 50 pax but the peak is mark with a fallen beirut and distance between Liang East and West about 5 minutes apart. You could attempt Tumang Batak nearby if you have the time smile.gif
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post Jul 22 2014, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jul 21 2014, 12:32 PM)
I heard there is a new shortcut that bypass the "pipe" crossing nowadays. Which can save up to 1 hour hiking..
I am doing a day hike, don't think I could do a detour to Gunung Warpu. Next time perhaps.
Liang.. Tiger leeches.. sigh.. Not going to love it.. Looks like I will want to layer up myself properly this time.
I thought they say the camp site only have a water source that looks like air kencing haha..

Tumang Batak perhaps not this time, bringing someone to do tropical forest hike for the first time, liang alone could be taxing enough
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Still do not understand why people bother to rush. LOL. How many mountains can you day pack? If what you said is true about the bypass of water pipes, then it will be beneficial but if not, the steep steps and water pipes will haunt you. Let assume 14 hours of daypack shall we?

Liang daypack is even worse than Yong Belar. I assume you will start from the common headtrail near Proton City instead of Slim River. The catchment area itself is quite dangerous during the night. One wrong footing you can be else where.
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post Jul 22 2014, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jul 22 2014, 01:13 PM)
I'm doing 2D1N at Liang..

The Yong Belar hike was not organized by me.
Just leech ppl's trip haha
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Liang 2D 1N should be good enough. Where you plan to camp? The campsite or peak?


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post Jul 23 2014, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jul 23 2014, 11:48 AM)
I think the second hike camp site, takes 4 hours to walk there
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Should be the LWP campsite. From there to peak about 1 hour if I am not mistaken
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post Jul 29 2014, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jul 29 2014, 11:01 AM)
Liang is a long walk.. be prepare for extended walking..
I finished my hike day 1 after 12.5hrs.. From trail head to summit and back to Lupuk Hantu camp.
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LOL. You must be insane trying to do it a day trip. I believe you must be carrying very light and minimal from the start.

Rush to campsite, dump those camping things, push to summit before descend down to camp.

You should have went for Liang West sunrise. Quite nice to witness, but some felt that the sunrise is the same old sunrise. Nothing interesting after all. What say you?

Oh ya, how's the leeches?

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post Aug 1 2014, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jul 29 2014, 10:27 PM)
Not too much, around 13 kg since only a day of camping, was carrying two tents too as my GF couldn't take much.

We did not want to see sunrise as we are bunch of people who had problem to wake up early haha. We opt for the sunset which is already freezing at that moment.

We wanted to start fast but we couldn't find the trail head at first, was wondering around there (didn't know we should go along the river as there's a trespassing sign at the entrance we). One hour wondering around there..

After witnessing the sunset at 7.30pm, took us another 4 hours to descend to our camp which we cooked dinner and serve at 12.30pm.

Good thing did not suffer much muscle ache the next day, just leech bite and bee stung that left me very itchy
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13 kg for a day pack is quite an heavy amount. Most people will try to opt for less than 10. Yeah, once you park your car at the area provided (can fit in at least 5 cars if I couldn't recall wrongly, perhaps more or less) then head to the catchment area and walk along the edge then hop through the fence. After that it is quite a straight forward trail. Got any sunset view?
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post Aug 9 2014, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Aug 6 2014, 07:20 PM)
Yeah got one, not superb due to being super cloudy that day.

Trail is straight forward once you found the starting point.

Just did Yong Belar the other day, now the pipe crossing part has been flatten into a vegetable farm.. I think soon Yong Belar will be gone too.. It's only 4 hours one way hike to the summit now, undulating and not too strenuous walk.
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Who you went with? Mr. Yap to Yong Belar? Most mountains in Cameron Highlands are under threat. Look at Yellow, Pass, Swettenham and Siku badly affected by the mountain clearing for vegetables/ flowers.
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post Sep 5 2014, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(4lun @ Sep 3 2014, 07:04 PM)
guys, need info on Tabur hill. Is it close or open for public ?
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Open to public but need to apply permit to hike West. East and Extreme need not.
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post Sep 8 2014, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(fablefox @ Sep 7 2014, 12:18 PM)
Also I have to ask, it is generally a good idea to do hiking, camping, etc by yourself? Alone?

I am a loner, and I prefer to do stuff my way, and in my speed, and at my own time.

Even at basic, I do have emergency whistle, fire starter, a multi tool, simple knife with seatbelt cutter and glass smasher. two compass (the basic Coleman and a one with ruler). and a headlight.

i know maybe it best to do it in groups - but due to my work, getting holiday (annual leave) is sometimes per project basis (if big project coming up, no annual leave and to take it when times are slower). but still, the main thing is that I'm a loner...
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Ok my advice for you bro.

JUPEM, not JUPEN do sell certain maps but if you do have those hiking GPS, you do no need neccesarily to have one unless you are relying on compasses.

I trek myself alone at certain times. There are pro and cons of doing so. You could learn alot by doing yourself but you will need few things and most of them are as per stated in your listed above. Preferable you to grab at least an emergency food ration (normally a day) which could help a little. Parang could be helpful in a lot of way.

Loner or in group, you will need to do a police report nearest to where you are want to explore.

There are a lot of place to do hike, camp by yourself. Just google the hills and mountains in Malaysia and you studied them carefully where you want to start. If you never tried before exploring, then you can try do hill with the height of 300m and above before taking up tougher mountains ahead.
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post Sep 8 2014, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Sep 7 2014, 02:14 PM)
There's no harm going alone if you feel adventures and brave enough. But having a friend along is better than going alone.
I prefer have one or max two buddies with me when going camping especially when doing jungle trekking. More than 3 person will only create nuisance.

Camping at the beach can be done solo as it's less dangerous than camping inside heavy jungle.
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The ideal amount of people to do such activities will be 4 pax. If one of you injured or the group got lost, you could split into group of 2 to accompany each other regardless what happened.

Camping at beach and forest are basically the same. You need approval from various parties unless you choose not to obey the rules and regulation. If camping in the jungle you could be afraid of the wild animals, what makes us think that the tide will not be a problem when pitching by the seaside.


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QUOTE(fablefox @ Sep 11 2014, 05:48 PM)
I hiked Bukit Broga "alone" before. I've said that because Broga, on a Saturday, you are not particularly alone. All the way to near the first summit. I know by then I was already 80% (I've heard that the rest of the summit, are really close to each other). But since due to other problems, I've started my climb at noon. And also equipment malfunction (causing me to lose around 40% of my water supply). And I, in a way, almost lost my mood because now I need to check my other stuff too (headlight, GPS). It was a simple mistake, maybe my fault, maybe the shop keeper fault (its the clip style water pack where you slide the clip in).

Anyway, it was a gear testing expedition anyway (which is why I don't mind starting at noon).

This saturday I'll be heading Gunung Nuang. Another gear testing, and software testing. And personal limit testing.
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Understand the terrain and weather my friend. Since Broga Hill is an open hill terrain and hiking in the noon will be a bad idea and you will start to get dehydrate faster. Most people will grab an additional water supply if they are to do the Tok Wan summit because knowing the distance and the weather will be a factor.

Gear testing at Nuang? If your first time, know your limits. If you couldn't reach the summit by 1-2PM, backtrack to starting point. Nuang can be a maze when the area is dark.

Good luck in your expedition.
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post Sep 12 2014, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(fablefox @ Sep 11 2014, 11:34 PM)
Yes. I've read that from several blog. Besides, basic math says whatever time you took to be there, you are probably taking the same amount in return. And its easier to get dark on the mountain.

I've downloaded two app on my android phone, and I want to test my AGPS. I also have an old Asus Garmin phone (yes, those two company worked together - for a year, ha! and released only two model). So I want to know how well it function on the mountain. Funny thing is I walked down Broga hill feeling quite sad because I don't have those fancy watch with altitude measurement. Only to realize my Asus Garmin have that option hidden - not in driving mode but when saving your location - it mention your level on the ground - ha!

I also want to make my sure dehydration pack didn't do the same mess again. And since this time I will start from the morning, I hope I can evaluate my true fitness. I heard that Nuang also used for Ultra Run, so I know that the trail are pretty 'spot on' as long as you observe your surrounding.

Does anyone know any popular camping ground in Selangor / KL. Usually easy access, close to resources, and safe. Well, there is Hutan Lipur Ampang and I heard you can apply to camp there. And it was running distance away to humanity (housing area). But I think it also too close to humanity that some people might visit you just to mess with you (since it also a popular hotspot. if they notice you set up camp in the evening, they might try to have fun with you later in the night).

There is also a campground at Sungai Congkak - which can be said as 'gated camping hotspot'. Cost you RM10, but I need to evaluate and see how far it is from the management should there is emergency. But it would be nice to practice camping and test your gear in a safe location, both from human and other stuff.

I know there are people camping on top of Bukit Broga, but I'm not sure how popular, but I do know in case of emergency, getting access to humanity is hard. The same with campground Lolo.

I prefer to do it alone, but I do prefer that when I'm there, I'm not the only one. Unless I'm experienced hard core already. So I'm looking at that paid campground at Sungai Congkak.

But if any of you have other ideas, feel free to post it here.
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It is always to have a handheld GPS instead of phone even they come with apps that could track terrain contours. Not all the place in the jungle got communication signal. You could give Nuang a try especially there will not be a strong telco signal from Kem Lolo to Kem Pacat. You could consider getting yourself a Garmin 62S or the older version of 60 CSX which range price from RM 800 - 1400.

I think there are post about popular camping ground before in this topic. Sungai Congkak at Batu 18 is a good place to start with family. Some head to Kem Lolo, at Nuang for camping. Some would consider easier alternative like Sungai Tekala at Batu 14 or Sungai Lepoh. Google around and you could find plenty of information about the camping sites.

Camping in Bukit Broga peak not so popular as the terrain is open and prone to lightning strike. What make matter worst there is no natural water supply at the peak. The nearest will be in between Gunung Tok Wan and Bukit Broga which could be 30-45 minutes trek and quite seasonal. Uncertain you could even find any water which conclude you might as well pack few 1.5 litre of waters.

Just my two cents.





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