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ham_revilo
post Apr 18 2008, 03:26 AM

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i think u misunderstood what i said bro.... the diameter of the pipe for both 1283 and 1284 is 8mm... so the base area of 1284 would be larger and from that thread u can see that almost 1/2 X 2 of the pipe is not in contact with the intel proc...

anyways if u are interested u could give it a try as ckhoong and all of us are looking forward for an AMD user to test out this thing to see how it perform on AMD and compare it with intel proc...

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alive88
post Apr 18 2008, 03:29 AM

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yup..i just read the review...sorry laugh.gif
from there can see that the base didnt fully touched by the IHS..plus, intel cpu heat is in the middle, hence, the heat are not well spreaded through the heatpipe..this HSF will surely perform its best on amd proc..

want me to try? hmm.gif
maybe can..but how to take the hsf? biggrin.gif

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post Apr 18 2008, 03:34 AM

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u can try pm ckhoong to arrange it but im sorry to say that i cant promise anything (hope u understand)... anyways im just hoping to see some result from AMD user... so far i havent seen an AMD user post result in the xigmatek thread...

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post Apr 18 2008, 03:37 AM

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haha..its ok..if i got the chance to try, so its my luck then..ill try pm him later..

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post Apr 19 2008, 09:28 AM

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Anyways, u can lap that xigmatek, just dont over do it, but it'll be a rare occasion.

lapping will improve the contact of the heatpipe to the ihs, which would increase the performance of ur heatsink, but i cannot assure you how much the temperature drop. just give it a try tongue.gif

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ham_revilo
post Apr 19 2008, 05:16 PM

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anyways is it okay if i straight use 1500 or 1000 grit to lap?? im worried if i use too low grit it will bocor the pipe...

ps:im really sorry if i post noob question as im still new in lapping...
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post Apr 21 2008, 11:36 AM

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if u think ur hsf base is flat enough then u can use higher grits to lap it... lower grits for making the base flat...
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post Apr 22 2008, 12:40 AM

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do i have to worry about oxidation in long term? does it affect anything? is it ok just to leave it.. too hassle to keep cleaning it la

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post Apr 22 2008, 02:32 AM

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QUOTE(onthefly @ Apr 22 2008, 12:40 AM)
do i have to worry about oxidation in long term? does it affect anything? is it ok just to leave it.. too hassle to keep cleaning it la
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talking about oxidation... i kinda forgot that part la... i heard that artic sliver 5 which contains silver will prevent oxidation... but there are others saying that it will take around 3 years ++ for oxidation to happen if the base is copper... anyways those info are from here....

anyways i would like to ask, im using TX-2 and i would like to know if oxidation will happen if i would like to lap my xigmatek red scorpion and use TX-2 as thermal paste... please advise....
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post Apr 22 2008, 10:12 AM

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oxidation doesn't affect anything... only thing u will notice is the colour change...
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post Apr 23 2008, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Apr 22 2008, 10:12 AM)
oxidation doesn't affect anything... only thing u will notice is the colour change...
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but i thought oxidation will slowly eats up the metal?? (correct me if im wrong)
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post Apr 23 2008, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Apr 23 2008, 01:45 AM)
but i thought oxidation will slowly eats up the metal?? (correct me if im wrong)
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if there is lots of oxygen + water
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post Apr 24 2008, 01:31 PM

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guys, i'm wanna ask something noob question
i have arctic freezer 64 pro.. i think my coppper pipe oxide almost all pipe..
does this effect the performance??..
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QUOTE(1001010 @ Apr 24 2008, 01:31 PM)
guys, i'm wanna ask something noob question
i have arctic freezer 64 pro.. i think my coppper pipe oxide almost all pipe..
does this effect the performance??..
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nope it doesn't... nod.gif
onthefly
post Apr 24 2008, 09:20 PM

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oxidation is karat is it..
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post Apr 25 2008, 04:27 AM

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QUOTE(onthefly @ Apr 24 2008, 09:20 PM)
oxidation is karat is it..
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not karat..its like ur copper surface got dark color...after lapping its shining,when got oxidation,no shining lor.
me usually use toilet duck to rid it off..
btw,edy lap my Colorful 8800gt cooler (same as palit moded cooler one)
no huge different.
Before Lapping=Idle 49 Load 66
After Lapping =Idle 48 Load 62


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QUOTE(ocz @ Jan 24 2008, 11:58 PM)
Thats what i did.Its very hard to look for a 2000 grit paper. sweat.gif
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can find it at paint hardware shop or car paint shop thumbup.gif

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post Apr 25 2008, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(onthefly @ Apr 24 2008, 09:20 PM)
oxidation is karat is it..
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yes oxidation is karat... its reacts with oxygen.. 2 Cu+O2 -> 2 CuO ... thats why u get either greenish or brownish stuff overtime which is copper oxide...
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post Apr 25 2008, 10:40 AM

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Just for info.
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A freshly-cut apple turns brown, a bicycle fender becomes rusty and a copper penny suddenly turns green. What do all of these events have in common? They are all examples of a process called oxidation.

Oxidation is the interaction between oxygen molecules and all the different substances they may contact, from metal to living tissue. Sometimes oxidation is not such a bad thing, as in the formation of super-durable anodized aluminum. Other times oxidation can be destructive, such as the rusting of an automobile or the spoiling of fresh fruit.

We often used the words 'oxidation' and 'rust' interchangeably, but not all materials which interact with oxygen molecules actually disintegrate into rust. In the case of iron, the oxygen creates a slow burning process, which results in the brittle brown substance we call rust. When oxidation occurs in copper, on the other hand, the result is a greenish coating called copper oxide. The metal itself is not weakened by oxidation, but the surface develops a patina after years of exposure to air and water.

The process of oxidation depends on the amount of oxygen present in the air and the nature of the material it touches. True oxidation happens on a molecular level -- we only see the large-scale effects as the oxygen causes free radicals on the surface to break away. In the case of fresh fruit, the skin usually provides a barrier against oxidation. This is why most fruits and vegetables arrive in good condition at the grocery store. Once the skin has been broken, however, the individual cells come in direct contact with air and the oxygen molecules start burning them. The result is a form of rust we see as brownish spots or blemishes.

Oxidation can also be a problem for car owners, since the outermost layers of paint are constantly exposed to air and water. If the car's outer finish is not protected by a wax coating or polyurethane, the oxygen molecules in the air will eventually start interacting with the paint. As the oxygen burns up the free radicals contained in the paint, the finish becomes duller and duller. Restoration efforts may include removing several layers of affected paint and reapplying a new layer of protectant. This is why professional car detailers recommend at least one layer of wax or other protectant be used every time the car is washed.

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post Apr 25 2008, 10:51 AM

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karat = oxidation of metals
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post Apr 25 2008, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Apr 25 2008, 10:51 AM)
karat = oxidation of metals
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ya..ya..true.. rclxms.gif
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