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post Mar 13 2009, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Mar 13 2009, 09:49 PM)
anyone plan to buy PBB... seems like it is recovering... wanna buy on next monday...
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stock price do not drop every single day on its way down. doh.gif It will have some technical rebound followed by strong selling and this cycle will repeat until it reach its ultimate low. wink.gif
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post Mar 13 2009, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Mar 13 2009, 03:54 PM)
wat to do. i think the fair value should be 3.00 - 3.50.
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The jumping Tiger is transforming itself to a Kancil. biggrin.gif

Ex right price might sink lower.

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lousy performance of the day for KLSE.
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post Mar 13 2009, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(vexus @ Mar 13 2009, 10:27 PM)
lousy performance of the day for KLSE.
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Its b'coz everyone was waiting/queuing to buy at the lowest price possible. unsure.gif

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QUOTE(Freelancer @ Mar 13 2009, 11:41 PM)
Its b'coz everyone was waiting/queuing to buy at the lowest price possible.  unsure.gif
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few years ago where got so many bank in malaysia, that time maybank still can standing firm, but with so many banks and the sector competitiveness and also current economy, maybank market cap shuld be around 15billion i think, so fair value sould be around rm3. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Mar 13 2009, 04:35 PM)
thanks cherroy
how about if i want to know all the historical prices & charts
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you can download 188OMS from www.osk.com if you have an online trading account.
188OMS provides charts for 1-min to 10 year (monthly basis) ... reasonably good

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For charts and some other info i.e. financials, fundamentals, shareholdings etc, currently I'm using the The Star Online - Business.

Just register a free MyStar account and set-up your own My Portfolio. smile.gif
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post Mar 14 2009, 12:32 AM

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DJIA already RED now: 7,128.08 -41.98 -0.59%
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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 14 2009, 12:32 AM)
DJIA already RED now: 7,128.08 -41.98 -0.59%
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US markets going back north. Not sure whether will end up green or not. unsure.gif

Let's hope for the best and next week rally again. smile.gif

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post Mar 14 2009, 05:49 AM

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QUOTE(Futura @ Mar 14 2009, 05:49 AM)
DJIA +53.92 (0.75%), reported best weekly results since Nov08.
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Good to be back to Green. biggrin.gif
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You can try use this one.
http://tradesignum.com

QUOTE(mo_meng @ Mar 13 2009, 04:35 PM)
thanks cherroy
how about if i want to know all the historical prices & charts
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 13 2009, 09:52 PM)
Until now we don't see massive foreign exhange loss/gain from their account from local banks, I reckon it is minimal as they don't need to go overseas to get funding, as locally liquidity is ample with more than Rm250 billion in the banking system, which surge in line with build up of foreign currency reserves of BNM which around USD 86 billions which is significant better off than what happened during 1997.

I don't have the data, so I might be wrong but common sense with ample liquidity in local financial market, there is no reason why bank in Malaysia need to go to oversea to borrow lot of money. If they did, it is not a wise move at all.

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Banking is a bit different than normal business, whatever deposit they are taking in, it is their liability. So as long as they can get enough deposit from customer or local people they don't need to borrow. (in fact previously, banks have too much money until they are reluctantly to take in more, that's why some banks previously classifed out Tier 1 and Tier 2 customers which they give different interest rate back then, now not anymore) (
At the mean time, taking in deposit is a form of borrowing already in the first place).
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http://www.nanyang.com/index.php?ch=7&pg=12&ac=939116
Think MBB & CIMB have some foreign currency denominated bond. In SGD & USD I think.
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QUOTE(htt @ Mar 14 2009, 09:24 AM)
http://www.nanyang.com/index.php?ch=7&pg=12&ac=939116
Think MBB & CIMB have some foreign currency denominated bond. In SGD & USD I think.
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Actually we can check through their balance sheet to know as well.

I reckon those funding or bond issue is to finance the merger and acquisition previously (as CIMB took over Southern bank, and MBB acquired overseas bank).

It is plainly not wise to raise bond for operation funding (giving out loan), as locally there are plenty of deposit can be tapped off, which is cheaper.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 14 2009, 11:06 AM)
Actually we can check through their balance sheet to know as well.

I reckon those funding or bond issue is to finance the merger and acquisition previously (as CIMB took over Southern bank, and MBB acquired overseas bank).

It is plainly not wise to raise bond for operation funding (giving out loan), as locally there are plenty of deposit can be tapped off, which is cheaper.
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Haha... I am lazy... I won't bother that (as I actually don't think long term foreign debt will kill the company, if the debt does not constitute more than 30% of its liabilities, the translation loss is only book value to me until it materialized). I think I read their issuance of bond before, but that was quite sometime ago liao (I only keep track of MBB, CIMB & PBB).
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QUOTE(htt @ Mar 14 2009, 11:45 AM)
Haha... I am lazy... I won't bother that (as I actually don't think long term foreign debt will kill the company, if the debt does not constitute more than 30% of its liabilities, the translation loss is only book value to me until it materialized). I think I read their issuance of bond before, but that was quite sometime ago liao (I only keep track of MBB, CIMB & PBB).
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Even PBB issues bonds/borrowings from time to time.

Correct me if I am wrong. biggrin.gif

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Stock to watchout for this mth Najib takeover PM post.
Go for those stock which have good fundamentals and future prospects.
As usual do own homework analysis and set Cut Lost if things goes bad...recession time.. play defensive.

http://www.anwaribrahimclub.com/2008/12/le...ekonomi-negara/

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Nazir Abdul Razak CIMB

Nazir Abdul Razak merupakan Pegawai Eksekutif Kumpulan kepada Kumpulan Commerce International Merchant Bankers Bhd (CIMB), institusi perkhidmatan kedua terbesar di Malaysia. Nazir menyertai Jabatan Penasihat Korporat CIMB pada 1989, dan memegang pelbagai kedudukan dalam kumpulan tersebut sebelum dijadikan Ketua Eksekutif pada 1999. Di bawah skim CEO, Nazir diberi 42 juta saham CIMB, bersamaan lima peratus dari jumlah keseluruhan modal berbayar.

Aset CIMB bernilai RM155 bilion, dengan market capitalisation meningkat kepada RM33 bilion dibelakang Public Bank dan Maybank.

Ahmad Johari Abdul Razak

Beliau merupakan Pengerusi Eksekutif Ancom Berhad yang meliputi pelbagai sektor seperti kimia pertanian &industri, minyak & gas, kejuruteraan, perkapalan, polimer dan teknologi maklumat dan komunikasi (ICT).


Peguam berumur 52 tahun ini juga memegang jawatan Pengerusi di Courts Mammoth Bhd dan Daiman Development Bhd, Timbalan Pengerusi di Nylex (Malaysia) Bhd, dan Pengarah Hong Leong Industries Bhd, Daiman Golf Bhd dan Deutsche Bank (Malaysia) Bhd.

Ahmad Johari Abdul Razak juga menerima 7.2 juta saham pemilikan bumiputera dari Kementerian Kewangan menerusi Tekala Corporation Bhd.

Mohamed Nizam Abdul Razak

Mohamed Nizam Abdul Razak berkhidmat di Lembaga Pengarah di Kumpulan Kamdar (M) Bhd, Deutsche Bank (Malaysia) Bhd, Synergy Track Bhd, Kumpulan Winitex Holdings Bhd, Kumpulan Wah Seong Corporation Bhd serta beberapa lagi syarikat swasta.

Beliau juga pemegang amanah di Yayasan Noah, Yayasan Dana PendidikanTan Sri Khalil, Yayasan Rahah dan Yayasan Hong Leong, serta Board of Governors di Nilai College.

Mohamed Nazim Abdul Razak
Presiden Persekutuan Taekwondo Malaysia (MTF) ini juga merupakan salah seorang dari pengarah di OYL Industries Bhd dan terkenal sebagai pengarah yang paling maha! dibayar di Malaysia - sekitar RM2,250,001 hingga RM2,300,000.

Arkitek berumur 44 tahun ini juga merupakan Pengarah di HLG Capital Bhd, HL Berhad dan ING.
Selain itu, Nazim juga dilantik ke Lembaga Pengarah HLIB, dan merupakan Pengarah Urusan Nr -Associates Sdn Bhd dan Pengerusi Bandar Tasik Semenyih Sdn Bhd, sebuah syarikat pemaju yang terkenal di Lembah Klang.

Kenneth Eswaran, (kawan baik Najib)
Meskipun beliau merupakan orang baru dalam arena korporat, Kenneth Eswaran seorang yang berpengaruh di Institut Strategi & Kepimpinan Asia (Asli) dan Institut Kajian Strategik & Antarabangsa (Isis).

Presiden Malaysian Associated Indian Chamer of Commerce & Industry (MAICCI) ini juga memiliki Benta Plantations Bhd melalui apa yang disebutkan sebagai reverse-takeover, dengan membeli 31 peratus saham syarikat ini dan 28.1 peratus dari Mun Loong Bhd.


Benta Plantations Bhd kemudian¬nya menukar nama kepada Best World Land Bhd dan pada 1994, Eswaran dilaporkan berminat mendapatkan konsesi balak seluas 250,000 hektar di Selatan Laos selama tempoh enam hingga tujuh tahun. Nilai pelaburan dalam konses ini mencecah RM60 juta, dan Eswaran juga diiaporkan telah menubuhkan sebuah syarikat baru bagi tujuan tersebut, dengan Best World Land dan Mun Loong masing-masing melabur 55 peratus dan 45 peratus dalam syarikat baru itu.
Pada 1995, Best World menjual ekuitinya di Mun Loong Bhd, dan tidak diketahui samada Kenneth berjaya dalam konsesi Laos itu.
Kenneth Eswaran disiasat atas tuduhan manipulasi saham dan insider trading di Best World Construction Group. Kenneth merupakan pemegang saham di Best World Gaming & Entertainment Corp, dan turut disiasat adalah pemegang saham terbesar syarikat itu Jose Victor JV” Ejercito, anak kepada bekas Presiden Filipina Joseph Estrada, Pengarah BestWorio Francis Ablan.
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The EDGE rating for LCL to Trading Buy because they just got a contract of RM 103 million for San Marina Bay in Singapore.

No wonder they was a sudden boost for LCL on Friday.
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QUOTE(edwin32us @ Mar 15 2009, 11:51 AM)
The EDGE rating for LCL to Trading Buy because they just got a contract of RM 103 million for San Marina Bay in Singapore.

No wonder they was a sudden boost for LCL on Friday.
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That's good cause I'm it's long term investor..... biggrin.gif

If market drops again this week, thinking of buying a bit of stocks.... what about you guys?
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 15 2009, 06:14 PM)
That's good cause I'm it's long term investor.....  biggrin.gif

If market drops again this week, thinking of buying a bit of stocks.... what about you guys?
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Thinking about averaging down on Genting, bought at RM3.60 a month ago.

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