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post Feb 19 2009, 12:50 PM

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any1 knows what time is the sony flash workshop this 28th? i hope it's not in the early morning coz i just got back from Jakarta that day..
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post Feb 19 2009, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(MechaHerc @ Feb 19 2009, 11:13 AM)
nickilala: i like angle in pic no4  thumbup.gif

achew: nice idea n sharp pic, let me guess, the son is 'buang' merata rata the the father like "wat the?"  am i rite?  laugh.gif
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thanks, MechaHerc notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Feb 19 2009, 12:50 PM)
any1 knows what time is the sony flash workshop this 28th? i hope it's not in the early morning coz i just got back from Jakarta that day..
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28 Feb 2009 11:30 AM Vistana Hotel, 9 Jln Lumut, Off Jln Ipoh, KL
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post Feb 19 2009, 02:32 PM

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since it starts at 11.30am to umm... 3.30pm... anyone has any idea whether lunch or will there be food provided? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(chiggy @ Feb 19 2009, 02:32 PM)
since it starts at 11.30am to umm... 3.30pm... anyone has any idea whether lunch or will there be food provided? biggrin.gif
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hopefully will be served la.. haha..
last time at basic workshop @ jalan tar lunch was served.. thumbup.gif

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post Feb 19 2009, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(dingenius3 @ Feb 19 2009, 02:48 PM)
hopefully will be served la.. haha..
last time at basic workshop @ jalan tar lunch was served..  thumbup.gif
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exactly, somemore the food was nice that day drool.gif drool.gif

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post Feb 19 2009, 03:11 PM

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I just got a F58 and use it for my fren wedding in the 2nd day..
I found out that most of my photo are over saturated, my setting is "Vivid, +1, +1, +3". Bounce flash (60-90 degree) are used for all the photo.

This doesn't happen when I m using built in flash..
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finally fulfill my need, just got myself the VG-B30AM rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Feb 19 2009, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(hkhk @ Feb 19 2009, 03:11 PM)
I just got a F58 and use it for my fren wedding in the 2nd day..
I found out that most of my photo are over saturated, my setting is "Vivid, +1, +1, +3". Bounce flash (60-90 degree) are used for all the photo.

This doesn't happen when I m using built in flash..
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vivid mode are saturated enough... u add +3 for saturation summore.. the result will be bling blingg laugh.gif
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post Feb 19 2009, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(hkhk @ Feb 19 2009, 03:11 PM)
I just got a F58 and use it for my fren wedding in the 2nd day..
I found out that most of my photo are over saturated, my setting is "Vivid, +1, +1, +3". Bounce flash (60-90 degree) are used for all the photo.

This doesn't happen when I m using built in flash..
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"Hmm.... control the flash, you must. Manual power set, you use. Trial and error... only then good results you will get..." quote Yoda... tongue.gif



I mean when using the external flash, try setting manual flash power to suit your environment. Test fire a few shots to get the optimal setting and then shoot. If you find you pics underexposed, then gradually increase flash power.

I do not understand what you mean by over saturated. Saturation means the colors of your pics. Are the colours too vivid? That's oversaturation and this is controlled by the creative styles and the flash has little effect on saturation. hmm.gif

If you mean the flash appears too powerful and wash out the picture (overexposure) then it could be a matter of the flash firing at full blast due to dirty hotshoe contacts between your cam and the F58. Try cleaning the contacts with a blue ink eraser and try the flash again to see if the problem is resolved. wink.gif
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post Feb 19 2009, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(v1rtual @ Feb 19 2009, 03:15 PM)
finally fulfill my need, just got myself the VG-B30AM rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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man...same LCD with me leh....samsung 226BW??


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QUOTE(shootkk @ Feb 19 2009, 03:37 PM)
"Hmm....  control the flash, you must. Manual power set, you use. Trial and error... only then good results you will get..." quote Yoda...  tongue.gif
I mean when using the external flash, try setting manual flash power to suit your environment. Test fire a few shots to get the optimal setting and then shoot. If you find you pics underexposed, then gradually increase flash power.

I do not understand what you mean by over saturated. Saturation means the colors of your pics. Are the colours too vivid? That's oversaturation and this is controlled by the creative styles and the flash has little effect on saturation.  hmm.gif

If you mean the flash appears too powerful and wash out the picture (overexposure) then it could be a matter of the flash firing at full blast due to dirty hotshoe contacts between your cam and the F58. Try cleaning the contacts with a blue ink eraser and try the flash again to see if the problem is resolved.  wink.gif
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got another question for u.....if i shoot in a church with flash and i wanna bounce the light to the ceilling....which power should i use to reach the ceilling??

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QUOTE(neo_lam @ Feb 19 2009, 03:54 PM)
man...same LCD with me leh....samsung 226BW??
yes, same series then bro wink.gif
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QUOTE(amadeo @ Feb 19 2009, 03:22 PM)
vivid mode are saturated enough... u add +3 for saturation summore.. the result will be bling blingg laugh.gif
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Hi, I m using A200, +1 for Saturation and contrast , while +3 is for sharpness. Last time My Vivid mode n standard mode has not much different..

QUOTE(shootkk @ Feb 19 2009, 03:37 PM)
"Hmm....  control the flash, you must. Manual power set, you use. Trial and error... only then good results you will get..." quote Yoda...  tongue.gif
I mean when using the external flash, try setting manual flash power to suit your environment. Test fire a few shots to get the optimal setting and then shoot. If you find you pics underexposed, then gradually increase flash power.

I do not understand what you mean by over saturated. Saturation means the colors of your pics. Are the colours too vivid? That's oversaturation and this is controlled by the creative styles and the flash has little effect on saturation.  hmm.gif

If you mean the flash appears too powerful and wash out the picture (overexposure) then it could be a matter of the flash firing at full blast due to dirty hotshoe contacts between your cam and the F58. Try cleaning the contacts with a blue ink eraser and try the flash again to see if the problem is resolved.  wink.gif
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I mean.. the color is too saturated., too vivid like Red is too red..
I just get the flash for the second day.. so Just trying with Auto mode lo.. next time will try with manual mode smile.gif

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QUOTE(hkhk @ Feb 19 2009, 04:10 PM)
Hi, I m using A200, +1 for Saturation and contrast , while +3 is for sharpness. Last time My Vivid mode n standard mode has not much different..
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maybe you can post some pics as an example of what you mean by over saturated? My feelings are like amadeo. Vivid mode and you still bump saturation? On my A350, the colors in ViViD mode are SCREAMING already, I wouldn't dare bump it anymore tongue.gif

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Cool stuff achew!

crazeoneeighteen, I've got a few colleagues with the D90. Manual focus, if you plan out the focus distances (to shift focus from one person talking to another) can be pulled off. The limited duration is not a problem as it's unlikely you'll have a 5 minute shot without cuts. And people usually mike audio separately and merge them later.

But the thing that really bothers me is the rolling shutter. One way I might work around this, is to have everybody walk in slow mo and I'd speed it up in post.

Of course, you'd want to use the D90 for candid videos. Of which, the mike is horrid.

hkhk: You might've been shooting in strong colored light with AWB - normally with AWB and no flash, it will set the WB nearer e.g. for tungsten light it might go down to 3500K or so. But when a flash is on, and AWB is used, it will always use the flash WB of 5500K.

Thus, the WB is actually wrong, or rather, the camera is following the WB of the flash. If you try setting Tungsten WB, your flash will appear blue instead!

That's why I use a colored gel over my flash, to make the flash color and ambient light match in WB.
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neo_lam : That's rather subjective! It depends entirely on how high the ceiling is. the higher it is the more power you will need to get a good exposure.

What I suggest is to fix your aperture and shutter speed first. Then set the flash to 1/8th power and flash zoom to 50mm. Test fire a few shots and see if the exposure is to your liking.

Then adjust flash power up or down accordingly. If your flash is already at full blast and you are still getting dark pictures, it is time to up your ISO settings.

Of course your angle of bounce is important too. Make sure your bounced light is actually hitting the subjects and not in front or behind them.
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I m using Flash WB.. Maybe the angle is wrong.. and cause an underexpose..
Double error..

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post Feb 19 2009, 04:40 PM

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bro albert...
if i use flash and the head go up or left or right,my shutter speed just limit to 160.why this happen?what flash mode do or must i use if i want to use the flash with the head up,left or right... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(ryzan76 @ Feb 19 2009, 04:40 PM)
bro albert...
if i use flash and the head go up or left or right,my shutter speed just limit to 160.why this happen?what flash mode do or must i use if i want to use the flash with the head up,left or right... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

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When using bounce (ie. flash head not directly facing front) the max flash sync speed is 160. That's normal. To get higher shutter speed, you will need to point the flash head directly ahead for HSS to kick in or disconnect your flash from your cam completely. Wireless time! Yeah!
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