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post Feb 18 2009, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(electron @ Feb 18 2009, 09:31 PM)
my wife asked me why i don't choose the D90 cos her friend got one
then i told her that it cost more than 50% more than the the A300 twin kit, she straight away say A300 will do
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i lol-ed....my mom also like tht... laugh.gif
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post Feb 18 2009, 09:46 PM

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Don't you know, all spouses and girlfriends, etc. etc. all alos like that one. Its the PRICE TAG that matters!
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post Feb 18 2009, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(hazril @ Feb 18 2009, 06:19 PM)
walauwey...better buy those hardcase beg...something like from james bond movie...baru kinky.... tongue.gif
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Lol.That one I dunno where to get.and I know it's made outta polycarbonate material.I like it.But still wanna think tank.No one will curi curi.Look like pasar malam bag. brows.gif
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post Feb 18 2009, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(vandechrome @ Feb 18 2009, 08:06 PM)
better ask ppl who own the lens..not simply read what ppl said about the lens..for me, the IQ worth for its value.
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thanks for the info
the price is quite good for this lense
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post Feb 18 2009, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 18 2009, 09:01 PM)
signither, I'm always on A mode, auto ISO (on the A700 and A900, that can be set to ISO200-1600.) On the A200 you'd want to increase ISO since Auto ISO won't go that high.

Depending on light conditions, anywhere between F1.4 and F2.2.

The tricky part, however, is white balance... biggrin.gif
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thanks for the tips bro notworthy.gif
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post Feb 18 2009, 10:29 PM

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The D90 has video. That's really all the justification you could need.

Of course, there is that rolling shutter, which is really annoying, but if you don't see it, good for you! It bothers me when I see people walking in a D90 video and they look like flickering holograms! This is not in the dark - it happens in bright daylight too!

Rolling shutter happens because every frame is not exposed all at the same time, but scanned from top to bottom. So if you move fast from left to right within the one frame, you will be distorted diagonally.

The Canon 5D MkII has better video with an external audio jack. But it still has the rolling shutter. The D90 is manual focus only in video.

So should you jump now, or wait for Sony's new models to come out, and see how they do video? The A700 and A200 are due for replacement as both are nearly 18 months old.

When the A700 and A200 came out, those did not have Live View, while the earlier D300 and 40D had Live View. Sony came back with the A300/A350 and its autofocus in Live View is a lot faster than any other camera using Contrast Detect AF, even the D90. So if you HAVE TO HAVE video NOW, go ahead...

Sony announced a new Exmor-R backlit sensor, which would be a lot cleaner at high ISO. So again, best to wait.

This post has been edited by albnok: Feb 18 2009, 10:33 PM
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post Feb 18 2009, 10:35 PM

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I'm not trying to be sexist or whatever (but I'm definitely being OT!) but....

Do you guys notice that women will nego kaw-kaw at the local fresh market for something to be reduced from RM2.00 to RM1.80 but they will buy without any thought a pair of shoes at RM200.00? tongue.gif
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post Feb 18 2009, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(kysham @ Feb 18 2009, 10:35 PM)
I'm not trying to be sexist or whatever (but I'm definitely being OT!) but....

Do you guys notice that women will nego kaw-kaw at the local fresh market for something to be reduced from RM2.00 to RM1.80 but they will buy without any thought a pair of shoes at RM200.00? tongue.gif
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10 points for that!
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Hi guys, anyone have any idea what is the market price for Sigma 10-20, Tamron 11-18 and Sony 11-18? The price in Shashinki and Yamiya is kinda expensive ..... sad.gif planning to get one but not sure the price...
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post Feb 18 2009, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 18 2009, 10:29 PM)
The D90 has video. That's really all the justification you could need.

Of course, there is that rolling shutter, which is really annoying, but if you don't see it, good for you! It bothers me when I see people walking in a D90 video and they look like flickering holograms! This is not in the dark - it happens in bright daylight too!

Rolling shutter happens because every frame is not exposed all at the same time, but scanned from top to bottom. So if you move fast from left to right within the one frame, you will be distorted diagonally.

The Canon 5D MkII has better video with an external audio jack. But it still has the rolling shutter. The D90 is manual focus only in video.

So should you jump now, or wait for Sony's new models to come out, and see how they do video? The A700 and A200 are due for replacement as both are nearly 18 months old.

When the A700 and A200 came out, those did not have Live View, while the earlier D300 and 40D had Live View. Sony came back with the A300/A350 and its autofocus in Live View is a lot faster than any other camera using Contrast Detect AF, even the D90. So if you HAVE TO HAVE video NOW, go ahead...

Sony announced a new Exmor-R backlit sensor, which would be a lot cleaner at high ISO. So again, best to wait.
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bro, you make me wanna cry...i just got my slr like last month only... cry.gif cry.gif if the new image sensor is coming to those entry level dslr, i'll definitely kill myself...
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QUOTE(joker_jr @ Feb 18 2009, 08:56 PM)
teluk chempedak, remind me my younger days.....
just hired a potter to carry everything except your dslr...
lol
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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 18 2009, 09:01 PM)
Wonka, get yourself a Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 and it will be the same thing, but with Super SteadyShot inside.
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i might consider that lens or wait for new alpha models come out lol

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post Feb 18 2009, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Feb 18 2009, 10:48 PM)
bro, you make me wanna cry...i just got my slr like last month only...  cry.gif  cry.gif if the new image sensor is coming to those entry level dslr, i'll definitely kill myself...
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you got yours last month, i got mine last week!
as for video function in a DSLR, i don't see much point for that

i would rather get a waterproof, shockproof compact that has video function
this would complement me on trips the best, from potrait, to landscape to underwater shoot or video, i have it all covered

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post Feb 18 2009, 11:16 PM

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hmm,should i get the 35-70/4 or 28-85/3.5-4.5 ?

and is the 50mm/1.7 good for walk around? or only for low lights?
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I go to a lot of gigs with bands rocking out - do I want video?

...not really. I still want to take pictures. If you've ever recorded a video of a performance, you'll know you have to position yourself in a place that is far from people, because the mike will catch people talking. I won't be able to talk, either. It will catch my shutter sound, too!

It gets very tiring too - that's why you'll see it mostly on a tripod at most performances.

I used to use my left hand to hold my phone, to record videos, while shooting with my right hand. As a result, the video was too shaky so no point lah. So I ended up using my phone to record video while I loop the strap to my belt, so it kinda hangs out my pocket capturing audio for audio's sake. Most bands don't look too interesting on video, unfortunately, unless they hit a solo.
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QUOTE(Crossbone @ Feb 18 2009, 11:16 PM)
hmm,should i get the 35-70/4 or 28-85/3.5-4.5 ?

and is the 50mm/1.7 good for walk around? or only for low lights?
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if its between 35-70 and 28-85, i'd most likely get 28-85

QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 18 2009, 11:17 PM)
I go to a lot of gigs with bands rocking out - do I want video?

...not really. I still want to take pictures. If you've ever recorded a video of a performance, you'll know you have to position yourself in a place that is far from people, because the mike will catch people talking. I won't be able to talk, either. It will catch my shutter sound, too!

It gets very tiring too - that's why you'll see it mostly on a tripod at most performances.

I used to use my left hand to hold my phone, to record videos, while shooting with my right hand. As a result, the video was too shaky so no point lah. So I ended up using my phone to record video while I loop the strap to my belt, so it kinda hangs out my pocket capturing audio for audio's sake. Most bands don't look too interesting on video, unfortunately, unless they hit a solo.
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is it microphone? if so then it should be mic smile.gif


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Crossbone, the 28-85mm obviously has a better range, while still giving that Minolta look.

I would save up for the Sigma 30mm F1.4 - now that has true walkaround potential and you can leave your kit lens behind.
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let's hope PMA 2009 doesn't disappoint...
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post Feb 18 2009, 11:34 PM

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hmm,but the 28-85 is slightly larger and heavier

and aperture not constant....

decisions,decisions

what about IQ,is there any significant difference between those two?

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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 18 2009, 11:17 PM)
I go to a lot of gigs with bands rocking out - do I want video?

...not really. I still want to take pictures. If you've ever recorded a video of a performance, you'll know you have to position yourself in a place that is far from people, because the mike will catch people talking. I won't be able to talk, either. It will catch my shutter sound, too!

It gets very tiring too - that's why you'll see it mostly on a tripod at most performances.

I used to use my left hand to hold my phone, to record videos, while shooting with my right hand. As a result, the video was too shaky so no point lah. So I ended up using my phone to record video while I loop the strap to my belt, so it kinda hangs out my pocket capturing audio for audio's sake. Most bands don't look too interesting on video, unfortunately, unless they hit a solo.
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haha i like video HD; is better carry a dslR with video rather another SR12E tongue.gif someone have posted that dsLR basically more easy to produce hd video with bokeh too laugh.gif anyhow, the way for DSLR will go integrated with HD video in future. that is the way canon 5d mark and nikond90 have do on it. sony will force into it as well laugh.gif

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Is it that big a difference, between F3.5 and F4, and between F4 and F4.5?

No really, it's not. Only when you put on a F1.4 and use it where you need all the shutter speed you can get, then you'd mind two-thirds of a stop difference. I have a F1.4 and a F1.8 lens and when I use the F1.8 lens in low light, it bothers me that it's not bright enough!

jimlim007 - yes, you get shallow DOF with a dSLR, unlike on HD camcorders. But you will have to manual focus, mostly, and if the subject moves you'll have to keep refocusing.

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