Some questions:
- Engine mounting need to change (Kelisa mounting is fine but heard it won’t last long). Are these expensive?
u change engine but duwan to change mounting?different engine different mounting....yes expensive

- Will the engine compartment become too cramp with the bigger engine (make maintenance difficult or cause some component to clash)?
confirm cramp up...

- Will the original Kelisa gearbox work well with Myvi engine? Can it handle the extra power?
of coz canot...n fyi...when u get the engine..it come wit gearbox...ecu...wiring...


- With bigger, hence heavier engine, does Kelisa suspension need to change/tune? Or the original can handle the extra weight?
confirm need to change....usualyl when u get half cut...it come with front suspension....

- What about tire? Change to Myvi type?
what do u mean by myvi type?wut type you want oso can

- The cost to make it road legal (JPJ, Puspakom) in total roughly how much?
if from 1000cc upgrade to 1300cc not so expensive but everything depends on jpj "mood"..hehe...

Lastly, though I never seen/heard this, is the new Proton Saga 1.3 Campro engine swap in Kelisa possible? notworthy.gif
everything is possible when u got money...even a vr4 can transplant into kancil before,...


fyi.....myvi k3ve cant fit into kelisa except getting a sub frame from yrv halfcut....

Alamak… Now I get inconsistence answer for these 2 questions :
- Engine mounting need to change (Kelisa mounting is fine but heard it won’t last long). Are these expensive?

- Will the original Kelisa gearbox work well with Myvi engine? Can it handle the extra power?

kev da man answered:
- you wont have to change engine mounting, even if you did to last longer, the mountings are those hard types and you will feel more vibrations in your car.

- gearbox should not be a problem, there are kelisas running around with kancil gearboxes, go figure

crazeeclan answered:
- u change engine but duwan to change mounting?different engine different mounting....yes expensive

- of coz canot...n fyi...when u get the engine..it come wit gearbox...ecu...wiring...


Which is the correct one? Or it just a difference of modding/personal preference?

Then we need Daihatsu YRC subframe to complete the engine swap?! Is this related to engine mounting stuff?? If this is true its gonna cost a fortune to swap K3-VE, hopefully RM7k still enough...

This post has been edited by Kosumaledoko: Feb 18 2009, 06:55 PM

if you buy halfcuts, they will come with everything you need to convert, unless its some custom job. besides, my response was for your initial question of K3-ve.
halfcut engine mounting need to change summore meh?
the subframe already comes with the half cut la
and gearboxes yes, kelisas can use kancil gearboxes for shorter ratio, but when you buy a halfcut, it already comes with one. besides, you can choose to use either the myvi manual unit for the k3ve mah,

this is the reason why i malas wanna swap engine better buy faster car

This post has been edited by kev da man: Feb 18 2009, 07:02 PM

Oh... I'm just asking if swap K3-VE, which part need to be change. So just replace almost everything from Myvi/Sirion/Boon halfcut into it will do la. Ok...

Used kelisa RM18k + halfcut and transplant RM7k = RM25k+-...
Or maybe scarifice some praticality for a RM17k classic Mini Cooper/Clubman... Hmm...

This post has been edited by Kosumaledoko: Feb 18 2009, 07:45 PM

25k.....might as well buy some satria GTi with EVO engine lo..........
LOL

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Added on February 18, 2009, 11:54 pm25k.....might as well buy some satria GTi with EVO engine lo..........
LOL

This post has been edited by kev da man: Feb 18 2009, 11:54 PM

Hahaha... I still prefer something light, fast, and nimble... My choice is either a classic Mini Cooper/Clubman or K3-VE Kelisa... Anyway thanks for all the great info.

fast and nimble?
nimbleness is all up to the driver. i've seen huge sedans cilok-ing on trunk roads, so car-wise, its not an issue

unless u r big and tall, kelisa not suits u, im planing 2 change my kelisa 2 sumthing biger.

fyi....k3ve myvi cant fit directly to kelisa....myvi neve use sub frame....for if u purchase myvi halfcut...u need to get additional yrv sub frame...yes kelisa can use kancil gearbox but not myvi using kelisa gearbox...it totally cant fit at all.....

you can also get the K3ve halfcut from the storia which fits perfectly mah, gearbox comes with the halfcuts, so there's no worries. true dat on myvi + kelisa gearbox though, i was mistaken for the opposite way.

dont bother with the classic mini....

it was my first car...and although it fun huge amounts of fun to drive.... the lack of reliability and expensive parts are a huge turn off.

stick to the kelisa...

oh and theres a kelisa already fitted with YRV turbo for sale on zth forums... that should save u the hassle

For real? Are you from k2oc.com? Since you got that link in your signature… Really need YRV sub frame to complete K3-VE swap?
All K3-VE Kelisa in k2oc.com also use YRV sub frame, no other method?

Then I look around in JPJ site on engine mod and I found this:

Requirements that need to be complied with during engine conversion
- No modification to the engine mounting
- Welding on the engine mounting is not allowed.
- The propeller shaft cannot be cut or joined at any part.
- No cracks or rust on the engine mounting.
- The brake system needs to be upgraded for an engine with a capacity of more than 25% of the original.
- The suspension system needs to be upgraded to account for spring stiffness.

link: JPJ page

No mod or welding to engine mounting. If crazeeclan were right, Kelisa need to use YRV sub frame means already replace whole original engine mounting right? Are those K3-VE/K3-VET Kelisa on the road legal?

One more thing, anyone heard/seen any Kelisa with Boon X4 KJ-VET 1 liter turbo engine? Since its 1 liter, still need to mod the engine mounting?


Isn't it Myvi are the same as Daihatsu Storia/Boon/Sirion or Toyota Duet/Passo? Or you mean use only the first generation Storia halfcut which is different from Myvi? If true I might as well go for the juicy K3-VE2 Storia... geggege


Thanks for the info man... I thought classic Mini will be ok since its a spartan basic car. Now I know its not that reliable, like most British car

This post has been edited by Kosumaledoko: Feb 19 2009, 04:04 PM

k3ve2 is kinda rare here, but there are several k2oc forumers using it.

The Storia/Boon/Sirion halfcut you mean is the first generation right? Second generation (same as Myvi) halfcut will have issue as engine mounting or sub frame is different?

2001 - 2004 Sirion all have a 1.3 102bhp engine, info from Wiki. This should means the K3-VE2 should be plenty in Japan and Australia… Maybe the kedai potong didn’t purchase much Sirion half cut here?

This post has been edited by Kosumaledoko: Feb 19 2009, 05:16 PM

iirc, subframe is slighty different, but for halfcuts purposes, you 'can' shoehorn the engine in, if your mech is able to do it.

If Kelisa we're fitted Kancil gearbox, how fast is the 0-100? Original Kelisa is around 14-15 seconds.

need some help.my. 2007 toyota bb with k3ve tranny died.can a 4e tranny be modified to fit on the k3 engine or wh at tranny or gearbox can fit the k3ve? i bought a 4afe engine to place in car but could not fit without major works..can a 4e fit without problems?...i am in jamaica

Mine 20s

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Added on November 30, 2011, 6:32 pmI for several question to ask here...

1) If wanna put K3-VE into a Kelisa, it's better to get YRV NA halfcut, because the subframe is needed, is this true?

2) Can the kelisa gb be used after K3-VE is put in? What are the differences between K3-VE with Kelisa gb and with YRV NA gb or Myvi gb?

3) If engine mounting cannot be modded according to jpj req, then what to do??? Need to make their mood become better then only can "pass"?

4) Any Kelisa users using K3-VE and K3-VET here? Mind to tell the FC???

Thanks

This post has been edited by jeenhao: Nov 30 2011, 06:32 PM

Look like it is poison me to mod my Kenari into K3-VE engine. Ke ke

Same here

But there are a lot of people suggesting me straight away get K3-VET...more power... But I am worrying about the FC. I heard from people that full tank just can travel 250+ km