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post Jul 19 2010, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(ate @ Jul 19 2010, 04:38 PM)
saito was looking for his rivals secret, which cillain murphy never had a peek off, how come he knew what was in the vault without going into it. If he did why didnt he tell cobb in the 1st place after getting his trust.
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err, did you watch 'inception'? hmm.gif


sorry it was a jest.


saito wasn't looking for fishers secret, (he already knew how cobb could enter into a subconsious mind & incept) & his (saito) intention was to incept an idea to fisher that he should break up his father's empire. in such in the corporate world at least saito can then compete against.

fisher has not secret' secret 'vault'; the whole bloody movie sub-plot by cobb & gang was to incept an idea to fisher (to think 'breaking up' his father's empire would then be his father's dying wishes to see him be his own man) In fisher's reality world, he was a disappointment to his dying father.

there are many sub stories/layers/plot that i know movie goers will rclxub.gif


just pay attention & one shouldn't lose focus. its not really hard to decipher the movie 'inception', well, some guys/gals just has 'science' subjects in school or even sci-fi stuffs.

nolan did say it was "what if" we could push the creativity of inception into dreams.

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post Jul 19 2010, 03:53 PM

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I do, but I can't remember when was the last time I stumbled about those concepts after I got a job (darn need to get reading and lesser on my gaming time. tongue.gif).

But yeah, Freud's interpretation is pretty much, interpretation. Its not a real answer though sadly. because research never stops. I dream, but not most of the time (which normally gives me a fantastic night of sleeping. ;P), and I always feel frustrated the dream has ended.

U dun have to question its good or bad. Just, try and experience it. Its where you alter ego can let loose. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jul 19 2010, 11:53 AM)
It could be, but hey, that's the subconcious for you. It IS ridiculous. tongue.gif
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Well, I guess the subconcious is only as ridiculous as a man getting spider powers after being bitten by a spider, or a man building a robot suit, flying around getting hit by mortar shells and not dying from concussion. I mean, yeah, surely, they're all ridiculous, right? tongue.gif

QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jul 19 2010, 12:02 PM)
Yeah, that whole scene was complete filler.

Anyway I think my "Cobb and Mal" theory tak boleh pakai anymore.
Reason being that I don't think the dreamer can go into deeper levels without the preceding dream collapsing. Yusof was the dreamer for level 1, and he didn't venture into level 2. Arthur was the dreamer for level 2, and he didn't go into level 3. At the beginning, while they were trying to steal Saito's secret, Arthur was the dreamer. When he was shot by Cobb an woke up, the dream began to collapse. So... Cobb and Mal probably never went any deeper than one level. Which means the shot of them being young while on the tracks was just a visual effect, they were in reality (I mean dream reality! rclxub.gif ) old when they put themselves on the tracks.
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The only reason why they left behind 1 person on each level is because they needed that person to protect the dreamers from the self defence mechanisms. E.g. Yusuf driving the van to protect them, Arthur fighting in rolling gravity, etc.

QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 19 2010, 12:16 PM)
apple have steve job's reality distortion field with place powerfull idea in your head that apple product are perfect and you cannot live without it. now that is real live inception  laugh.gif
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Ahhh .. but that distortion field has a weak point that can easily be overcome by using the death grip on it. tongue.gif

QUOTE(chenster @ Jul 19 2010, 02:56 PM)
so i watched it yesterday..

so in the end cobb never got out of the limbo dream or all the while the whole movie is cobb's dream?
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I believe he got back to reality. But then again, this is the kind of ending where the viewer is invited to draw their own conclusions. So you can tembak your own belief right there.

QUOTE(mssv19 @ Jul 19 2010, 03:19 PM)
Which one Inception or Twillight? hahaha

For Twillight, I wish one of them (the wolfman or dracula) should just f*ck her and get it over with.....
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Amen to that brader.

QUOTE(ate @ Jul 19 2010, 03:38 PM)
saito was looking for his rivals secret, which cillain murphy never had a peek off, how come he knew what was in the vault without going into it. If he did why didnt he tell cobb in the 1st place after getting his trust.
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I think I understand why you don't like the movie. It seems that you missed out a lot of very important details. I don't blame you. It is very hard to keep track of all these details, but if you manage to achieve that, the movie is really rewarding.

Basically, Saito wasn't looking for his rival's secrets. He was trying to brainwash Fisher into breaking the company apart. In order to do that, they needed to convince Fisher that this was his own idea - inception. They used 4 levels of dreams to achieve this. The vault was a trick they used to convince Fisher his father wanted him to break the company apart. Actually this was Eame's dream. Not the godfather's dream.

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QUOTE(ate @ Jul 19 2010, 03:40 PM)
its a pure rip off of the matrix and the butterfly effect :yawn: hollywood is running out of ideas!


Added on July 19, 2010, 3:41 pm

what do u mean magic trick? in the end there was no magic!
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he was talking about The Prestige lah. laugh.gif Unless, you would say that magic don't exist except that deception and speed and manipulation does. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jul 19 2010, 03:54 PM)
Well, I guess the subconcious is only as ridiculous as a man getting spider powers after being bitten by a spider, or a man building a robot suit, flying around getting hit by mortar shells and not dying from concussion. I mean, yeah, surely, they're all ridiculous, right? tongue.gif

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Exactly! tongue.gif

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post Jul 19 2010, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(ate @ Jul 19 2010, 03:38 PM)
saito was looking for his rivals secret, which cillain murphy never had a peek off, how come he knew what was in the vault without going into it. If he did why didnt he tell cobb in the 1st place after getting his trust.
Well, that's why you didn't like it. You weren't paying attention.

I suggest that next time you go to the movies, forget the popcorn, go pee beforehand, switch off your phone, don't talk, and watch a movie like it's meant to be watched. icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jul 19 2010, 03:40 PM)
I tot the story was to implant an idea that never existed? But this is coming from a guy who hasn't seen the movie yet.
It was brillian btw. I thought, how will you plant an idea to a person and convince him of that. Of course, by using emotional persuasion. Making use of Robert Junior regret of not living up to his father expectation and the final secret in the safe which I think is what Robert Junior desire and wanted all along, his father approval & acceptance. If you think about it, its morally wrong to toy with a person emotion...and the audience seems to lap on it hehehe

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I love how twisted, mix n match, cranky, confusing, heavy, tripped, hamma vamma, mind**** the movie is!

9/10
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QUOTE(mssv19 @ Jul 19 2010, 04:01 PM)
It was brillian btw. I thought, how will you plant an idea to a person and convince him of that. Of course, by using emotional persuasion. Making use of Robert Junior regret of not living up to his father expectation and the final secret in the safe which I think is what Robert Junior desire and wanted all along, his father approval & acceptance. If you think about it, its morally wrong to toy with a person emotion...and the audience seems to lap on it hehehe
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That's why u dream of it. In a dream, u r capable of doing anything, and you won't be judged. heck, how can you blame a dream for being the perfect motivator? (First hand experience)
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best movie EVARRR

i like the ideas of totems, having an architect for a dream, multiple dreams within dreams, limbo.

i really wanna see chris nolan direct some porn movies. should be really awesome tongue.gif
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what was ellen page roll? why is she significant?was she there just for a lesson ride?
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QUOTE(supernothing @ Jul 19 2010, 04:10 PM)
best movie EVARRR

i like the ideas of totems, having an architect for a dream, multiple dreams within dreams, limbo.

i really wanna see chris nolan direct some porn movies. should be really awesome tongue.gif
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ok, seriously, how would that even be possible? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jul 19 2010, 04:17 PM)
ok, seriously, how would that even be possible? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ate @ Jul 19 2010, 04:13 PM)
what was ellen page roll? why is she significant?was she there just for a lesson ride?
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She's the architect. She helped design the layouts for the dreams, before they entered.

They also needed the numbers.

She's the only person who knows about Cobb's problems and can help him cope with it.

FYI, she wasn't supposed to join in the actual mission. Just help design the layouts.
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QUOTE(ate @ Jul 19 2010, 03:28 PM)
Overrated? i think the suitable word is "pretentious" laugh.gif
If the movie take out the CGI, car chase & action scenes, for some critics they will probably rate it higher. Now that's pretentious!

For a Hollywood summer blockbuster, these are needed to pacify the summer crowd.

You can go for an arthouse movie to watch people filming orange peel or decay over a year....that is also art movie or some Wong Kar Wai in the Mood for love or Woody Allen New York New York.

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INCEPTION is a awesome awesome awesome movieeeeee!!!!!! but i can't help but to give credit to The Matrix, without that movie, lots of movies won't be possible....

anyways Inception is great!!!!!!

btw, if it hasn't been posted.

Inception Explained
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Inception-E...ream-19615.html


Inception Prologue
http://inceptionmovie.warnerbros.com/thecoboljob/
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jul 19 2010, 04:01 PM)
Well, that's why you didn't like it. You weren't paying attention.

I suggest that next time you go to the movies, forget the popcorn, go pee beforehand, switch off your phone, don't talk, and watch a movie like it's meant to be watched.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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pay attention what so little action only, matrix much better flex.gif an d there are so man y unanswered question. Its a dirty scam to make viewerss go and view it repititvely so they " get it "
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QUOTE(hairyLGS @ Jul 19 2010, 04:18 PM)
Boogie Nights 2 - The New Generation?  laugh.gif
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Good Point. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(ate @ Jul 19 2010, 04:20 PM)
pay attention what so little action only, matrix much better flex.gif an d there are so man y unanswered question. Its a dirty scam to make viewerss go and view it repititvely so they " get it "
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Or you can sit here and be like me, reading the whole story from everyone's point of view and watch it just once. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ate @ Jul 19 2010, 04:20 PM)
pay attention what so little action only, matrix much better flex.gif an d there are so man y unanswered question. Its a dirty scam to make viewerss go and view it repititvely so they " get it "
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I bring my brain when i watch this rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jul 19 2010, 04:19 PM)
She's the architect. She helped design the layouts for the dreams, before they entered.

They also needed the numbers.

She's the only person who knows about Cobb's problems and can help him cope with it.

FYI, she wasn't supposed to join in the actual mission. Just help design the layouts.
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isnt that the roll of the dreamer?
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QUOTE(ate @ Jul 19 2010, 04:20 PM)
pay attention what so little action only, matrix much better flex.gif an d there are so man y unanswered question. Its a dirty scam to make viewerss go and view it repititvely so they " get it "
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What's so hard to get? I got it in the first try ........ hmm.gif

QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jul 19 2010, 04:20 PM)
Good Point. laugh.gif
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