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post Jul 18 2010, 04:03 PM

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very nice movie, i generously give 9/10
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I think ur statement is correct. He has no memory of his children faces b4. rclxm9.gif
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You mean he has never seen his kids' faces right? rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 18 2010, 05:45 PM

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Just came back from watching it again. Having known what to expect, I liked it a lot, but I think it's far from a masterpiece. There are some strikingly original ideas in the film. There are multiple interpretations, all of which provide a good debate. You might say the whole thing was real, from start to end. Or you could say the ending wasn't real. Or, it could be he never really woke up after testing the strong sedatives in Yusof's dream-addict centre (remember, he didn't manag to spin his totem upon "exiting" his dream. Of course, this particular interpretation is the most unsatisfying one). Heck, the whole thing from start to end could all be a dream, and Mal did actually wake up by jumping off the window. It's really good.

That being said, I think this was also a missed opportunity. Having less info to process while watching this time around, I was struck by how a lot of the film was so uninspired visually. We're talking about dreams here, and the only times when we see how imaginative the mind can be, how utterly weird dreams can be, are in the early stages of the film when we see Paris folding onto itself and bridges being erected magically, all of which happen when Cobb is teaching Ariandne about the dream world. When it comes to actual dreams, it can look very pedestrian, shifting gravity notwithstanding. Take the snow mountains for example, was there anything in there, anything at all that didn't look like it was taken from a standard action blockbuster? Anything that says this is a film about dreams where rules are bent? Anything that was even a little bit different? All we get there are endless scenes of Eames arming and planting explosives everywhere while taking down generic henchmen in the most unimaginative of ways. How exciting. This film will never be a masterpiece because of this entire sequence. In fact, the whole action portion was unnecessary, and serves nothing to the story. I can understand why they are included though. One word: padding. This being the third dreem level, time is even slower, and they need to show the characters doing something to fill up the time. As I said, padding. And a woefully realized one at that. The film has great ideas, but some of them are executed in a very plain manner. Ironic, really.

In the end, I think the concept and ideas really make this film. I won't hesitate recommending it, by all means go see it, but a former forummer here (kobe and makekeke will know who I'm talking about biggrin.gif) has repeatedly said, Nolan should stick to writing and producing duties, and leave the directing to someone else. I never really believe that, but this film did make me take that notion more seriously.

P/S: I still find it hard to grasp the concept of limbo. I now think Cobb and Mal, while exploring the dream world together, never actually dropped into limbo, but rather lapsed into it. In fact, Cobb didn't for once think the dream was real. Only Mal was convinced, over a long period of time, that the dream was reality. In essence, she slowly slipped into a limbo state of mind. I don't think they tried killing themselves and thus going into limbo. This begs another question, since heavy sedatives were used, why didn't killing himself on the train tracks send Cobb into limbo? Someone more knowing please answer, or I'm going to start thinking several concepts in the film are simply too ambiguous to be considered anything more than vague concepts.

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This movie really fark up your mind ! somehow the way they set the ending was a bit looks like Stay ending...

After the movie i only knew that Arthur was Tommy in Third rock from the sun, no wonder the face were so familiar in the begining


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post Jul 18 2010, 06:17 PM

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just finish watching this movie, it really does live up to expectation, the movie is complex, great performance from a great cast, looking to watching it a second time. icon_rolleyes.gif

hope this movie can be a box office smash hit so nolan can keep making movie with original idea.

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jul 18 2010, 05:45 PM)
P/S: I still find it hard to grasp the concept of limbo. I now think Cobb and Mal, while exploring the dream world together, never actually dropped into limbo, but rather lapsed into it. In fact, Cobb didn't for once think the dream was real. Only Mal was convinced, over a long period of time, that the dream was reality. In essence, she slowly slipped into a limbo state of mind. I don't think they tried killing themselves and thus going into limbo. This begs another question, since heavy sedatives were used, why didn't killing himself on the train tracks send Cobb into limbo? Someone more knowing please answer, or I'm going to start thinking several concepts in the film are simply too ambiguous to be considered anything more than vague concepts.

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they did not used heavy sedatives when they are digging deep..at least it was not mentioned

limbo i think is a state of mind where you perceive as reality although you're dreaming, and its represent visually as a huge space
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jul 18 2010, 05:45 PM)
Just came back from watching it again. Having known what to expect, I liked it a lot, but I think it's far from a masterpiece. There are some strikingly original ideas in the film. There are multiple interpretations, all of which provide a good debate. You might say the whole thing was real, from start to end. Or you could say the ending wasn't real. Or, it could be he never really woke up after testing the strong sedatives in Yusof's dream-addict centre (remember, he didn't manag to spin his totem upon "exiting" his dream. Of course, this particular interpretation is the most unsatisfying one). Heck, the whole thing from start to end could all be a dream, and Mal did actually wake up by jumping off the window. It's really good.

That being said, I think this was also a missed opportunity. Having less info to process while watching this time around, I was struck by how a lot of the film was so uninspired visually. We're talking about dreams here, and the only times when we see how imaginative the mind can be, how utterly weird dreams can be, are in the early stages of the film when we see Paris folding onto itself and bridges being erected magically, all of which happen when Cobb is teaching Ariandne about the dream world. When it comes to actual dreams, it can look very pedestrian, shifting gravity notwithstanding. Take the snow mountains for example, was there anything in there, anything at all that didn't look like it was taken from a standard action blockbuster? Anything that says this is a film about dreams where rules are bent? Anything that was even a little bit different? All we get there are endless scenes of Eames arming and planting explosives everywhere while taking down generic henchmen in the most unimaginative of ways. How exciting. This film will never be a masterpiece because of this entire sequence. In fact, the whole action portion was unnecessary, and serves nothing to the story. I can understand why they are included though. One word: padding. This being the third dreem level, time is even slower, and they need to show the characters doing something to fill up the time. As I said, padding. And a woefully realized one at that. The film has great ideas, but some of them are executed in a very plain manner. Ironic, really.

In the end, I think the concept and ideas really make this film. I won't hesitate recommending it, by all means go see it, but a former forummer here (kobe and makekeke will know who I'm talking about biggrin.gif) has repeatedly said, Nolan should stick to writing and producing duties, and leave the directing to someone else. I never really believe that, but this film did make me take that notion more seriously.

P/S: I still find it hard to grasp the concept of limbo. I now think Cobb and Mal, while exploring the dream world together, never actually dropped into limbo, but rather lapsed into it. In fact, Cobb didn't for once think the dream was real. Only Mal was convinced, over a long period of time, that the dream was reality. In essence, she slowly slipped into a limbo state of mind. I don't think they tried killing themselves and thus going into limbo. This begs another question, since heavy sedatives were used, why didn't killing himself on the train tracks send Cobb into limbo? Someone more knowing please answer, or I'm going to start thinking several concepts in the film are simply too ambiguous to be considered anything more than vague concepts.
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I've seen it four times already and I must admit I am beginning to see what you're seeing. For a film which is based on dreams and imagination, a lot of the film is rather unimaginative, especially in the third level. Although the film explicitly explains why the the dream world cannot be altered much, it feels that some of these rules restrict the film rather than help it. The first and second levels had some serious shit with the train and the free-falling sequence though and do make up for it.

However, I still stand by my rating; 10/10.

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movie sucks man.all about dream.people enter into people's dream.dream into dream. damm boring.i wanna go out of the cinema instead.luckily it's only 9.00.wasted 9.00. dark night director always the losers.i hate dark night directors now.they always create boring n don't noe what is all about movie.i give this movie 3/10.1 for action 2 for funny.always talk about 3 layers of dreams.suckssss

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QUOTE(mkei87 @ Jul 18 2010, 06:29 PM)
movie sucks man.all about dream.people enter into people's dream.dream into dream. damm boring.i wanna go out of the cinema instead.luckily it's only 9.00.wasted 9.00. dark night director always the losers.i hate dark night directors now.they always create boring n don't noe what is all about movie.i give this movie 3/10.1 for action 2 for funny.always talk about 3 layers of dreams.suckssss
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post Jul 18 2010, 06:34 PM

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Love this movie! gonna watch it again soon smile.gif

will try to understand it more!


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post Jul 18 2010, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(mkei87 @ Jul 18 2010, 06:29 PM)
movie sucks man.all about dream.people enter into people's dream.dream into dream. damm boring.i wanna go out of the cinema instead.luckily it's only 9.00.wasted 9.00. dark night director always the losers.i hate dark night directors now.they always create boring n don't noe what is all about movie.i give this movie 3/10.1 for action 2 for funny.always talk about 3 layers of dreams.suckssss
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nolan take $200 millions from the studio and instead of making a sequel or movie base on book/comic/toy he make a original concept movie that are not dumb down, how many other director can do that?
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 18 2010, 06:36 PM)
nolan take $200 millions from the studio and instead of making a sequel or movie base on book/comic/toy he make a original concept movie that are not dumb down, how many other director can do that?
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James Cameron did that and made 2billion USD. How many directors can do that? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jul 18 2010, 06:38 PM)
James Cameron did that and made 2billion USD. How many directors can do that? tongue.gif
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Okay maybe I'm flattering James when I said he didn't 'dumb down' the film but still....
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Not sure why we need to ask Nolan to do it any differently. He's never been a Burton type of director that relies on visual splendors. The film is a thriller heist and the generic settings is required here.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 18 2010, 06:45 PM)
Not sure why we need to ask Nolan to do it any differently. He's never been a Burton type of director that relies on visual splendors. The film is a thriller heist and the generic settings is required here.
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Then there'd be no need for them to have dreams if everything was going to be generic. Much of the film's action was pretty much a waste of time the forth time I saw it. Like Quickfire said, it's padding. What was the purpose of the armed projections other than to 'provide gunfire'?
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jul 18 2010, 06:45 PM)
Okay maybe I'm flattering James when I said he didn't 'dumb down' the film but still....
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but seriously director like James Cameron and Spielberg have massive clout in hollywood for their track record to making hits ofter hits, nolan is still a new comer to being a hollywood elite, making a movie like inception is really a big risk for his career, if the audience cannot appreaced it he will find it hard to launch new project with this kind of budget after he exist the batman franchise.
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 18 2010, 06:54 PM)
or avatar's plot being something orignal  laugh.gif

but seriously director like James Cameron and Spielberg have massive clout in hollywood for their track record to making hits ofter hits, nolan is still a new comer to being a hollywood elite, making a movie like inception is really a big risk for his career, if the audience cannot appreaced it he will find it hard to launch new project with this kind of budget after he exist the batman franchise.
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Nolan is already part of Hollywood's elite. No doubt. He can make The Last Airbender and people will still see his shit.
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Brilliant movie. Feel like watching it again, to be honest.

For my review, you know where to find it. =)

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