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Engineering Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (LAME), Guide & everything about this career!

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jazzy939
post Apr 4 2012, 11:17 PM

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It takes more than a basic license and a type rating to be an engineer.
Companies like MAS recognized this hence the 'demand' to have these value added courses.. the question here is that, who's gonna foot the bill? APR did include some of these courses (basic/foundation) to give their students an added value when applying for a job/placement.
Full courses are expensive, only companies can afford to pay. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(thorne @ Apr 4 2012, 11:03 PM)
Sorry to intrude... i was searching for something on google and came across topic bout this LAME thing in LOW YAT... i'm surprised there are quite some interest in this field..... anyway.... Dear Maryjane... those course u listed.... most propably created by the training school..to cater for company.... company requested... they come out with the course to train the staff of the company.... as an outside... for an outsider..... those courses wouldnt mean much... i could be wrong...just an opinion.....
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post Apr 4 2012, 11:22 PM

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I used to.
Preparatory classes for DCA written and oral exams.

QUOTE(thorne @ Apr 4 2012, 11:20 PM)
Hello jazzy... i read some where in the u r teaching in APr or Miat?... what r u teaching?
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post Apr 4 2012, 11:28 PM

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Offering my knowledge, skills and expertise to help start up an airline.
I also do consultancy work for aircraft inspection, evaluation and report for purchase/lease, airworthiness audit and anything else under 'aviation' interests.. biggrin.gif
Of course, these are to be compensated(read paid) handsomely.. laugh.gif

QUOTE(thorne @ Apr 4 2012, 11:23 PM)
cool.... so what r u doin nowadays?
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post Apr 4 2012, 11:39 PM

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Thanks! I'd say the 'reward' is very satisfying... wink.gif

QUOTE(thorne @ Apr 4 2012, 11:34 PM)
Keep up the good work dude....
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post Apr 5 2012, 09:18 AM

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It is good to know that they have re-submitted. Now a matter of time when DCA will audit and grant the approval.
Bigger question would be, how they would integrate the Part 66 modules and exams , comply with the live aircraft requirements and the students be eligible for the grant of AML(Engineer).
Easiest way is to finish up the theory and exams then passing out with a Diploma & Certificate of Completion, get a 'job'and get the live aircraft experience 'elsewhere' on your own expense..
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maryjane,
Thank you . I am impressed by the way you looked at things 'differently' from the norms.
You ( the younger generations in general) have stop short of being competitive. 'Spoon fed' generations?

Many interviews I conducted when asked a simple questions like,
'Tell us why we should select you instead of the previous guy' or
' What else/value added things that you can offer me if I am going to be your employer?'..
These questions are seldom answered..

Please pursue this intent of yours and drop me a line if you need help,views or opinions..

Good luck biggrin.gif


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post Apr 6 2012, 10:44 AM

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n394,
Let's clear this first. How bad do you want to be an LAME?
So, does it really matter if you gonna have 10 years bond with MAS? Look at it positively that for 10 years you have a steady job!
METC is an ATO. One of the first the produce trainee engineers under the new DCAM PART 66, isn't that good?

Many many students lacks self confidence probably the way they are being brought up.. In order to face exams you need coaching, past years questions, tuitions et al... ..
During my time there were none and yet we succeeded.

'Right attitude' can't be trained or learned. It came from you. How you perceived things around you.
Honestly engineers are not trained, they are born! If you have a knack fixing things around the house, love to get your hands dirty or 'destroy' things because you need to see and know what make something work, then you have a bright future in any discipline of engineering.
In aviation maintenance you have to be multiskilled (all trades, mechanical and avionics) and multi-talent.
It is honestly not an easy course to pass. I am not discouraging you but it is a lot easier to take MBAs or degrees than the license!

Always be prepared for any interviews. Read up the company's history.. Who's the boss? What types of aircraft they operates? The different types of Boeings and Airbuses...
The A380, the whole world knows about it. Do you know anything about it? What about Boeing's Dreamliner?

Find out what the job is all about! Who is DCA? What do they do?
Read and understand the DCAM Part-66 syllabus.
What are Part 145 and Part 147 organization?

These will be asked to see if you have enough passion to give the edge that you have 'it' to make it through..

Enough spoon feeding already. laugh.gif

The ball is in your court, you decide what you're gonna do with it.

All the best!
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post Apr 12 2012, 10:52 PM

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camel90, very good answers there! :there:

hazwan, until such time when MIAT or UniKL is an approved Part 147, it won't be conducting such an exam! laugh.gif
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post Apr 14 2012, 05:21 PM

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Used to.
Just like MAS. USED TO.

QUOTE(bandit94822 @ Apr 14 2012, 02:02 PM)
air asia got TAME course O.o  shocking.gif
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post Apr 14 2012, 09:39 PM

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That's the reality...
It's faster to train them pilots than an engineer.. technicians included..

QUOTE(bandit94822 @ Apr 14 2012, 08:53 PM)
lol AA can afford to have cadet intake but not TAME INTAKE?! wtf? to train a pilot need more cost  cry.gif
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post Apr 14 2012, 10:14 PM

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Don't be surprised.
Most of the A320s are due for a heavy maintenance. Where else but send to MAS Engineering. No need to pay mahhh..! tongue.gif

QUOTE(thesun @ Apr 14 2012, 09:44 PM)
i hear Air Asia wanna take one of MAS line in hangar 6.. later we'll see kapal Air Asia do checks in MAS hangar...
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post Apr 18 2012, 04:06 PM

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BEM= Bored of Engineers, Malaysia.. laugh.gif

There is no requirements to be registered and/or carry the title Ir.
Who needs them?
We need type ratings! A380, A340, A330,A320, B747-800! B777 etc.. wink.gif
Thats where the MONEY is!

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Did you managed to answer? hmm.gif
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post Apr 20 2012, 12:41 PM

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Tell your dad that the license issued by DCA Malaysia is recognized same level as DEGREE WITH HONOURS in the Government.
You will start from A41 grade.. depending on years of experience and the number of type ratings you hold. You do not want to work anywhere else in the government except DCA lah of course! laugh.gif
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post Apr 20 2012, 05:15 PM

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Don't worry about 'other' qualifications.. you're eligible to take MBA and above. My batchmate (an LAME) holds TWO PhDs..
Any more issues?
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post Apr 20 2012, 07:43 PM

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Yes we can! We are in a 'supervisory' position, with 2 years experience in type(professional experience).. you can take MBA or CIT (Chartered Institute of Transport)for that matter. If you want to take a degree, no one is stopping you but I don't see the reason why.. laugh.gif
When I was with MAS, they(MAS) sponsored those who want to take MBA, CIT.. the MBA was from Cranfield University,UK. Cost RM30K. Good eh? wink.gif

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post Apr 20 2012, 10:01 PM

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I did not as I do not want to be further bonded with MAS! laugh.gif
I want to get out and get more exposure, skills, knowledge and experience from the industry, which I did !
Regrets? Definitely not.
Will I ever want to get these qualifications? I don't think so.
Right now I am being paid 'handsomely'.. Glad I took that path and never looked back biggrin.gif

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post Apr 21 2012, 03:25 AM

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That was tough! Wonder who was the one questioning you... tongue.gif

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post Apr 25 2012, 11:23 PM

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maryjane,
Like all laws, this is again subjected to interpretation. biggrin.gif

You are right, there were never an emphasized that it HAS TO BE an EASA Part 145!
Go back to basics.
Any maintenance activities either done by an AOC Holder or a part 145 MRO obviously has to be APPROVED by the local Regulatory Body first, right?
Now, does the country of the Regulatory Body a member of the ICAO? This would be the MINIMUM in order for CAA UK or infact any Aviation Authority (DCA included) to recognize the practice, skills and experience and the so called recorded experience (and endorsed appropriately) to be accepted either for the grant, extension or conversion approval.

Is this simple and clear to understand?
Having said that, the JAR implementations(among others) are still valid and further support the recognition for the acceptance of applications.




QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Apr 22 2012, 08:52 AM)

Added on April 25, 2012, 9:31 pmD3.1 General
An applicant for a category B1 licence must have completed a prescribed period of aircraft maintenance
experience. This experience is to be relevant to the licence category required and to the maintenance
experience of operating aircraft. This experience should include maintenance on aircraft structure,
powerplant, mechanical and electrical systems and replacement of avionic LRU’s requiring simple tests to
prove their serviceability.

This was taken from ELGD on caa.uk webbie..it doesnt said anything about 145..i dont want to assume,coz theres no assumption should be made when u working in this industry.
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post Apr 26 2012, 01:42 AM

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Not at all.
Before Part-66 adoption by DCAM, CASA licence was recognized and conversion like always is by sitting and passing DCA's Paper I ( Air Legislation ).
In the same note DCA's LWTR was also recognized by CASA.. biggrin.gif

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