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Thalmes
post Jan 28 2009, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Jan 28 2009, 02:17 PM)
That is the typical way of answering question of most lecturers. They don't need to explain why this and that because it's the students' responsibility to find out the answer.
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And thus , Creating a debate and a discussion . = Students and both lecturer learn together
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QUOTE(Thalmes @ Jan 28 2009, 04:42 PM)
And thus , Creating a debate and a discussion . = Students and both lecturer learn together
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Well, I guess that would the better solution than (the lecturer) provide a wrong answer. Through discussion and debate, the best answer will be concluded as the correct answer. In that way, lecturer could avoid any unnecessary accuse.
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post Jan 28 2009, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Jan 28 2009, 05:17 PM)
Well, I guess that would the better solution than (the lecturer) provide a wrong answer. Through discussion and debate, the best answer will be concluded as the correct answer. In that way, lecturer could avoid any unnecessary accuse.
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Yep ... And that could be fun . And students could learn more
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post Jan 28 2009, 06:13 PM

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now wouldnt it be easier if the lecturer ALWAYS say he doesnt know and tells the students to find out themselves? tongue.gif



but noooooo... students nowadays think lecturers are god that knows everything. if they dont know, they'll say the lecturer is lousy, crap and not worth the money they pay for biggrin.gif. i know, coz i've been there.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 28 2009, 06:13 PM)
now wouldnt it be easier if the lecturer ALWAYS say he doesnt know and tells the students to find out themselves? tongue.gif
but noooooo... students nowadays think lecturers are god that knows everything. if they dont know, they'll say the lecturer is lousy, crap and not worth the money they pay for biggrin.gif. i know, coz i've been there.
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post Jan 28 2009, 10:40 PM

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It's so true that students can't accept 'i don't know' for an answer..they would even make noise if the lecturer ask them to figure it out themselves as they are used to being spoonfed all the time

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Jan 28 2009, 10:40 PM)
It's so true that students can't accept 'i don't know' for an answer..they would even make noise if the lecturer ask them to figure it out themselves as they are used to being spoonfed all the time
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yeah ! That's why lecturer must reply the annoying question with something like " This is a good question. It is actually an advanced syllabus. You will learn it soon. It can be easier to understand with theory A, B and C (whatever related theories out of your mind) which you haven't learn them. Since we don't have enough of time for it. Please study those theory first and you must get understand later on." tongue.gif

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post Jan 28 2009, 11:33 PM

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i hate it when we ask question then lecturer ask us to go find out... if u can get the answer we dun need to ask them d..they shud provide expalnation... geez
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QUOTE(f4tE @ Jan 28 2009, 03:33 PM)
i hate it when we ask question then lecturer ask us to go find out... if u can get the answer we dun need to ask them d..they shud provide expalnation... geez
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how many people actually seek the answer elsewhere before asking the lecturer?
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post Jan 29 2009, 02:02 AM

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Sometimes students do looking for answers by themselves but the matter is: the answer's coverage so broad, which 1 is correct and better?
i prefer ask lecturer personally. Some of them do helps me but the remain just give some lame reasons ignore it(don't even give face to students who ask help from them).
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QUOTE(lancelyod @ Jan 29 2009, 02:02 AM)
Sometimes students do looking for answers by themselves but the matter is: the answer's coverage so broad, which 1 is correct and better?
i prefer ask lecturer personally. Some of them do helps me but the remain just give some lame reasons ignore it(don't even give face to students who ask help from them).
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yup.. true true...at least if 1 us to look for the answer then give some clue as to where we can fin dit or help recommend some references that we can find... better than just to ask us "go look for the answer and wont spoon feed us"..
if like that whats the point of lecturer and asking them?
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post Jan 29 2009, 09:04 AM

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Maybe high school should be made like this ... I noticed Form 4 - Form 5 teachers still spoon feed A LOT in certain subjects and the exam like moral test student's answering technique but not their knowledge . Whats the point ?
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post Jan 29 2009, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 28 2009, 01:21 AM)
owh... lecturers have flexibly hours for classes, and in research, working by deadline. meaning u might see them goyang kaki, but doesnt mean they're not doing anything at all.
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owh i never knew that before.but basically lecturer or teacher is harder?
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In my point of view ... I think it's lecturer as they need the most knowledge and need a lot of research just to teach their students .
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QUOTE(zariqcools @ Jan 29 2009, 01:21 AM)
owh i never knew that before.but basically lecturer or teacher is harder?
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depends on what u define as hard. to me, teacher is harder.

i have very little tolerance level over repeating the same subject over and over again. i admire teachers who could repeat the same material over and over again for several class in the same day. i can never do that. i'll die before that happens.
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post Jan 29 2009, 10:18 AM

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to be a good lecturer u gotta really excell on all stage of studies...degree > master > p.h.d

then ppl will recognise u and up ur position...

wen u become professor or a.professor thats wen u get big $$$...
meaning it is wen ppl know ur experties and ur wide knowledge in the field u do...

ull have chance to be hired as advisors of company, firms or government departments...

wen ur really good u can also do jobs overseas...more $$$

u can also write and publish books to generate additional income...

or maybe u can do addtional tution classes like those from taylors college...

for certain level ull also qualify to do speech on conventions, training progs, motivational n so on...

and the best i see is...

u will have secure basic salary each month that is above 5k and sometimes a lot more...

means when u retire u will get good pention...perhaps same amount of others who are still working...

so if u want to be lecturer so go for it...

its really not a bad idea at all...
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post Jan 29 2009, 10:50 AM

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yup true true.. i got a friend earning around 10k in MNC at age of 27/28.. but damn bz..chinese new year 2 days holiday also work..after that work again... no time to relax altho earning big bucks..become lecturer can earn not so big bucks but still big and get to enjoy your bucks
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post May 28 2009, 04:02 PM

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if u really keen to be a lecturer then i think u shud go for a academic-based courses mayb Math in Education..i mean, anything relate to education...then after u've finished ur degree pgrm, u r most probably advised to pursue 2 d higher level i mean, master or Phd (for IPTA)....but as far as i'm concerned, for IPTS their min. requirement is only degree...

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QUOTE(a.n. @ May 28 2009, 08:02 AM)
if u really keen to be a lecturer then i think u shud go for a academic-based courses such as TESL...or mayb Math in Education..i mean, anything relate to education...then after u've finished ur degree pgrm, u r most probably advised to pursue 2 d higher level i mean, master or Phd (for IPTA)....but as far as i'm concerned, for IPTS their min. requirement is only degree...
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no. becoming a lecturer doesnt mean u must take education related courses. i mean, try and imagine who's teaching courses like aeronatics, biotech or robotics engineering? there's no education courses for those. then where do the lecturers come from? biggrin.gif

educational degree is not a requirement for becoming a lecturer. if u wanna become a teacher, yes. but not a lecturer.
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post May 28 2009, 10:03 PM

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How to study to become a lecturer? As far as I know, the job which a lecturer want to have is not lectuer, but somehow related to it. Means you want to be doctor, end up be biology lecturer or you want to be engineer, and end up to be physics lecturer.

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