You must be earning a lot of money then. That sound contrary with what you said before "local lecturer is underpaid"

underpaid due to basic salary, yes. but doesnt mean we're having no other income. i'll give u my own personal example:

i. publications

at the moment i'm not involved in any academic writings, but i was involved in publishing students' works and other faculty related jobs. as an assistant editor, i was paid about RM600-RM1.2k per job, which usually lasts between a week to 3 weeks. if i'm publishing my own work or book, then the pay is significantly higher, not including royalties i might get.

ii. consultations

as an architect, i still have to practice to maintain my knowledge in the industry. although i'm only involved in design stage (which truly not a hard thing to do), i'm paid between RM2.5k to RM4k per job. this freelancing jobs span between 3 weeks to 3 months. if i go part time, then the pay would be more consistent, around RM1.5k to RM2.5k per month. but if i practice as a full fledged architect part time, then the pay is about RM4k to RM6k per month.

iii. knowledge sharing

as academics we're often called to other educational institutions to give lecture or share our knowledge. at the moment the minimum pay for us is RM200 per hour. with a PhD it'll go higher, and ofcourse with a professorship, u can definitely demand alot. for example, i taught UTM's SPACE programme for 6 credit hours per week. that's easily RM1200, RM4800 per month.



there are other things also. like i said, the basic salary is low. but doesnt stop u to earn more

WOW.. suddenly feel like my goal want to be lecturer d...is it the thing u mention for public uni lecturer only or private uni oso get those benefit?

But azarimy must have doing a lot of hard work. It sounds challenging to take so much jobs at the same time.

I beg to differ. It varies with the kind of college or university you are working with. Those working in small colleges only get a couple of thousands, and heck, not even reaching 5k...It depends on the college/ university you working in.

so you mean we will get fired?

well, just make sure u have a passion for academia. the money is just the by-product of what we do. none of us do this bcoz of the money, u know.

at the moment, only IPTA lecturers enjoy those benefits. labour law applies strongly here. in IPTS, lecturers dont get as much free time as IPTA lecturers. with whatever pay they receive, the university will squeeze every ounce of ur strength into teaching as many students as u can. this is totally wrong, but to them it's business. tak suka, keluar .

alot of work, yes. but most of them arent that hard to me. just make sure u enjoy the work and the outcome, then nothing will be that hard.

i agree with u. which is why i EXPLICITLY use myself as an example. it's not a blanket statement.

yes. remember, it's nothing personal. all business to them . if u dont perform, say bye-bye.

better work for few years b4 start teaching, if not ur student wont respect or even listen to you.

this is what happend in my class. for those very young lecturer(probably a fresh graduate, <30 years old), the student won't listen to him in the class(me as well). i think they are less experience in many thing and the example they give is sth similar to primary school level.

a.k.a part-time teaching.

my cousin told me monash does not allow their own faculty members to teach else where as faculty is their own asset and should not share with others. wat a pity.

i heard all new lecturers in IPTAs have to undergo 'kursus induksi'. can anyone tell me what that's about?? do they have this sort of thing in IPTS?

no, not part time teaching. part time teaching is different as u would be teaching OUTSIDE working hours.

sharing of expertise is normal as academics are often officially invited through the top channels. meaning top people in university A meets top people in university B and agrees to some form of expertise exchange. i believe even monash practices sharing of expertise, that's why they opened a branch in malaysia. it'll be stupid not to share, bcoz when the expertise are shared, the individuals will become a referred experts. and each time the expert is referred to, it will boost their international ranking in THES.

Is it possible for a IPTS lecturer of the age 35 with master holder applies for IPTA lecturer ? In that case, the salary will start from beginning or according to lecturing experience & qualifications ?

it is possible. but i'm not sure about the salary.

i'm pretty sure it doesnt start from the bottom. even if it does, the individual will excel during the next PTK exam and climb to the top ladder within the next year.

lecturer ? bright future ...

usually those who become lecturer are majority in their 40s and they are having a stable life and some is to avoid those competition in working world ...

but from what i see ... lecturer do have a bright future in malaysia

It's soo true, my dad is a lecturer and most of his income comes from his consultation and talks, that's why he don't even bother to accept an offer from some IPTS although they paid quite handsomely bcoz if u minus all the time + workload it's not even worth it

Call me old-fashioned or whatever, I still think teaching is a noble profession. Please set it in your mind that you wanna become a lecturer to share & impart knowledge to people and to nurture young minds. Don't simply enter the academic world just to earn money. From my observations, good lecturers are always those with the passion in their fields. If you don't have the passion to teach, later you'll lose momentum and get bored, probably becoming a half-assed lecturer afterwards .

For a start, you should study hard and get good results. Nowadays, universities are only accepting applicants to masters programs with at least 2nd class upper degrees (I think UM has just implemented this prerequisite, for fresh grads you can't register for masters programs if you get <3.00 cgpa. Other unis I dunno). Try to get a 1st class degree for your undergraduate studies then scout around for scholarships for masters/phd programs, during my final year I saw scholarships to Japan, Singapore, HK etc. being advertised at my school. So with good results, doors will open for you. Also be more active in your university, might help in your scholarship application.

Another path is by becoming a research assistant to a lecturer after you graduated. This way, you'll be doing masters by research. The lecturer will pay you accordingly; different lecturer will give different pay I think. Masters by research can be completed within 1.5 year. If your research is really good, you might apply to convert your masters project into phd.

Good luck.

got 1 thing i dun understand... since azarimy say lecturer is good then how come my lecturer last time always say become lecturer no good then salary so little?? they bluff us or izzit their expectation too high?

like i said, basic salary is nothing to shout about.

if ur lecturer only sits there and teach without doing research, publications, consultations or so on, then he's salary is just a little bit more than cikgu sekolah.

I got 2 lecturer say their salary low..

one is a new lecturer just work 1 yr like dat.

then another one is associate prof and got a lot of research going on cuz we in science so he got take in masters and phd student..sure got publications coming out

why like dat?

which university are they from?

assuming from an IPTA, if the new lecturer is a tutor, then his salary would be around RM2k. the assoc prof, if he has a PhD, would get around RM5.5k basic.

why like what?