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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Apr 1 2013, 01:22 PM)
I know, many lectures who are looking at my post, are going to say "students should study themselves" " teaching is not my main job" ... yeah, i agree yet lecturer is still an educator and no matter how teaching is still part of a lecturer's job. Recall of my UKM lecturers, I am shaking head.  sweat.gif
I'm sorry about your godawful experience. About your past UKM lecturers, they don’t know diddly about teaching? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Apr 5 2013, 02:44 PM)
I'm sorry about your godawful experience. About your past UKM lecturers, they don’t know diddly about teaching? shocking.gif
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No ... They were worse than my secondary teachers. Seriously, I respect none of them as they can't teach (what a shame).
When my students asked my opinion about the education quality of local universities, i tell them directly "don't go to UKM."
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Hi! I'm new here but the topic is something I'm really interested in. As of now, I've just recently graduated with a Bachelor's Degree in Chemistry with CGPA 3.48. My long term goal is to teach at private universities or international schools teaching at foundation or pre-u level, maybe even Degree. I'm personally not very interested in research, just teaching. I'm now aiming to get a Masters in Chemistry and has applied to UTM for the mixed mode programme but a lecturer in USM has also agreed to supervise me for Masters by Research at USM. So what I want to ask is which one should I go for in order to achieve my goal?
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Sorry for bumping an old thread up, but I felt this question I'm asking is best asked in this thread. I was wondering how likely is it for a person who is qualified in one field to be hired as a lecturer in another field? For example, is it likely for a person with Engineering qualifications be hired to teach Mathematics based subjects in IT or Management faculty? Basically, I just wanted to know how difficult it is for a person who wants to become an academician to make a career direction change after they got their Masters.... Or is it a little too late to change direction after getting Masters?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ Jul 16 2013, 06:55 PM)
Sorry for bumping an old thread up, but I felt this question I'm asking is best asked in this thread. I was wondering how likely is it for a person who is qualified in one field to be hired as a lecturer in another field? For example, is it likely for a person with Engineering qualifications be hired to teach Mathematics based subjects in IT or Management faculty? Basically, I just wanted to know how difficult it is for a person who wants to become an academician to make a career direction change after they got their Masters.... Or is it a little too late to change direction after getting Masters?

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Not too sure about local universities, but I used to work in private uni and from what I can see, flexibility in terms of lecturer capability to teach subjects of various background is a plus point. So yeah, it's not difficult. All goes back to how you gonna convince them.

By the way, when you mentioned about career change, isn't it more like switching from one field to another e.g. teaching to industry? Yours is still within the scope. I'm in the midst of switching from pure science background to non science too by the way (academic field)

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QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ Jul 16 2013, 10:55 AM)
Sorry for bumping an old thread up, but I felt this question I'm asking is best asked in this thread. I was wondering how likely is it for a person who is qualified in one field to be hired as a lecturer in another field? For example, is it likely for a person with Engineering qualifications be hired to teach Mathematics based subjects in IT or Management faculty? Basically, I just wanted to know how difficult it is for a person who wants to become an academician to make a career direction change after they got their Masters.... Or is it a little too late to change direction after getting Masters?

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academia management is like mix-matching playdates. they just need to satisfy the supply-demand trend of the faculty or university by looking for individuals that can fill in the job.

based on ur example, the faculty is looking for somebody to teach maths. most likely, it doesnt matter to them what background u came from, so long as u have the capacity and expertise to teach it.

and then there's the field of expertise issue. even if they want u to teach maths, it's also possible that they're looking for somebody with engineering expertise. if so, then u'll fit the bill perfectly as compared to somebody who also can teach maths but specialises in psychology.

in my own example, i was hired to fill in the gap in the architectural computing department. but as i worked in the faculty, it became clear that there's another field that's lacking not just in UTM, but everywhere else in malaysia - architecture education. so i planned my postgraduate studies to ensure i could fulfill both needs.

i went to UCL to study masters in virtual environment (architectural computing) and later university of sheffield for phd in architecture education.

so currently i became an asset that the faculty cant do without: somebody who can teach architectural computing (what the faculty needs) and specialises in architecture education (what the country needs).

so plan ahead. turn ur qualification into something very unique that faculties just go nuts over and would be willing to pay anything to get ur service. it doesnt matter if ur masters is different. my top three qualifications are all in different fields (architecture, computing, education). just make sure it's mapped to what people want. no point specialising in something nobody did before because nobody needs it wink.gif.

hope this helps.
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QUOTE(LoveMeNot @ Jul 17 2013, 08:08 AM)
Not too sure about local universities, but I used to work in private uni and from what I can see, flexibility in terms of lecturer capability to teach subjects of various background is a plus point. So yeah, it's not difficult. All goes back to how you gonna convince them.

By the way, when you mentioned about career change, isn't it more like switching from one field to another e.g. teaching to  industry? Yours is still within the scope. I'm in the midst of switching from pure science background to non science too by the way (academic field)
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Yea what I meant was switching from one field to another. My weakness at the moment is definitely my lack of teaching experience but that can come in time if I can get a lecturing job. Do you mind sharing your experience? smile.gif How difficult is it to switch from pure science to non-science field? For example, one of the concerns that came to my mind is that the people from the non-science background may have certain knowledge/experience that the people from science background is lacking... Will it be a major problem? Thanks.


QUOTE(azarimy @ Jul 17 2013, 08:37 AM)
academia management is like mix-matching playdates. they just need to satisfy the supply-demand trend of the faculty or university by looking for individuals that can fill in the job.

based on ur example, the faculty is looking for somebody to teach maths. most likely, it doesnt matter to them what background u came from, so long as u have the capacity and expertise to teach it.

and then there's the field of expertise issue. even if they want u to teach maths, it's also possible that they're looking for somebody with engineering expertise. if so, then u'll fit the bill perfectly as compared to somebody who also can teach maths but specialises in psychology.

in my own example, i was hired to fill in the gap in the architectural computing department. but as i worked in the faculty, it became clear that there's another field that's lacking not just in UTM, but everywhere else in malaysia - architecture education. so i planned my postgraduate studies to ensure i could fulfill both needs.

i went to UCL to study masters in virtual environment (architectural computing) and later university of sheffield for phd in architecture education.

so currently i became an asset that the faculty cant do without: somebody who can teach architectural computing (what the faculty needs) and specialises in architecture education (what the country needs).

so plan ahead. turn ur qualification into something very unique that faculties just go nuts over and would be willing to pay anything to get ur service. it doesnt matter if ur masters is different. my top three qualifications are all in different fields (architecture, computing, education). just make sure it's mapped to what people want. no point specialising in something nobody did before because nobody needs it wink.gif.

hope this helps.
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Thank you for your response. Your experience have given me hope and inspiration. I have found that my passion for engineering is waning a bit, hence why I've pondered switching to a different field from my Masters. I still have great interest to teach though no experience in teaching yet. wink.gif



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hi guys

im currently graduating from bachelor of commerce (marketing and management) and i plan to become a lecturer in the future. But i am wondering is master w/o work experience directly related to the field of teaching is enough to get in to a good university (so that i could repay my study loan and even fund my Phd)



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QUOTE(someone_cs @ Oct 30 2013, 06:05 PM)
hi guys

im currently graduating from bachelor of commerce (marketing and management) and i plan to become a lecturer in the future. But i am  wondering is master w/o work experience directly related to the field of teaching is enough to get in to a good university (so that i could repay my study loan and even fund my Phd)
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If you're lucky, maybe they'll still hire you without any industry experience. This could probably applies to local university if you have a good relationship with the school. It's quite impossible to enter a private institution though without prior experience.

Anyway, I'm looking for design lecturers with PhD or Masters. Anyone interested, do PM me.


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QUOTE(someone_cs @ Oct 30 2013, 06:05 PM)
hi guys

im currently graduating from bachelor of commerce (marketing and management) and i plan to become a lecturer in the future. But i am  wondering is master w/o work experience directly related to the field of teaching is enough to get in to a good university (so that i could repay my study loan and even fund my Phd)
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Of course you still can.
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post Nov 12 2013, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(someone_cs @ Oct 30 2013, 06:05 PM)
hi guys

im currently graduating from bachelor of commerce (marketing and management) and i plan to become a lecturer in the future. But i am  wondering is master w/o work experience directly related to the field of teaching is enough to get in to a good university (so that i could repay my study loan and even fund my Phd)
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can become a lecturer. But normally since you do not have any teaching experience, so perhaps you will start with Level A. However, if I'm not mistaken, if you have industry experience in marketing and management prior to taking your masters, then, you can start with a B level.
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It is becoming a lecturer in Malaysia very hard nowadays? Because need to compete with other students who already have masters and PHD. I'm also considering to be a lecturer after finish my studies Degree in HR and human development. Is there any market teaching lecturer in HR background?
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QUOTE(mycolumn @ Nov 12 2013, 09:46 PM)
can become a lecturer. But normally since you do not have any teaching experience, so perhaps you will start with Level A. However, if I'm not mistaken, if you have industry experience in marketing and management prior to taking your masters, then, you can start with a B level.
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hi there my friend, i don't really know much about academic area and i don't really have anyone close to ask about it. mind elaborate more on the Level u mentioned biggrin.gif
does i meant level A = pre u level b = diploma and so on?
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QUOTE(someone_cs @ Nov 17 2013, 05:59 PM)
hi there my friend, i don't really know much about academic area and i don't really have anyone close to ask about it. mind elaborate more on the Level u mentioned biggrin.gif
does i meant level A = pre u level b = diploma and so on?
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Oh, I do think that it depends on the university. In the uni where I am working in:

Level A: expected to have a bachelor degree, can do lecture for pre-u units, but only can do tutorial for the degree units
Level B: expected to have a master's degree, can do lecture for degree units
Level C, D, E and so on: expected to have PhD

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But of course, it all depends on experience as well. If you are a fresh grad in Master, without any prior teaching experience/industry experience (e.g. graduated from Degree and straight embark into your Master degree), normally my uni will hire you under Level A first. After 1 year or so, then can be promoted to Level B. nod.gif

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QUOTE(fazlythewarrior @ Nov 13 2013, 01:22 PM)
It is becoming a lecturer in Malaysia very hard nowadays? Because need to compete with other students who already have masters and PHD. I'm also considering to be a lecturer after finish my studies Degree in HR and human development. Is there any market teaching lecturer in HR background?
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I am not too sure about the market for lecturing. I do know that it is quite hard to find good quality lecturers, based on what I see around. But that's just my opinion. I do honestly think that in order to be a good lecturer, one must not only have the qualification (e.g. Master or PhD) but also have real world working experience. Without this, the lecturer himself/herself will find it difficult to link what they taught in lectures/tutorials sessions to the real-working world situation due to lack of experience.
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Does anybody has any experience lecturing in APU/APIIT/UCTI? Or knows anyone who does? I got an offer and it's my first lecturing job and I really don't know what to expect.

Plus, I'm currently doing my Master's as well. I don't want it to be like my current job where I'm currently having a hard time juggling both due to the workload (of both study and work).
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What is the latest salary ? I am graduating this year. Does previous working experience as engineer will give higher salary?
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Dear all, I'm a fresh grad which has a bachelor degree in science, majoring in construction management from USM. Currently I'm just started to work in a contractor firm but I sought to do my master in the field of social science later on, by relating some issues and impacts with the construction industry, e.g. How a certain event, or Government decision/ Law, affect the life of the residents and indirectly affect the construction industry.
Is such topic feasible? And I'm seeking to continue in PhD afterwards provided I have the chance. Not sure that will any IPTA/ IPTS hire lecturer in such field.
Can anyone advise please?
Thanks!

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