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TSdarren chia
post Jan 19 2009, 10:05 PM, updated 14y ago

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post Jan 19 2009, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(darren chia @ Jan 19 2009, 10:05 PM)
i'm quite interested with the idea of teaching at a university or a college, maybe becoming a lecturer. just want to know what field is this under and i want to know if there are any lecturers in lowyat. can tell me if this job got prospect? can make money? is it enough to support family next time?
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of course yes. you see your lecturers are still alive, right ? That mean they have enough money.

But, if you want to be in term with the job, please be patient with students.
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post Jan 19 2009, 10:09 PM

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as far as i noe all lecturers are succesfull ppl..
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post Jan 19 2009, 10:41 PM

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lecturer in lyn is azarimy.. lecturer very successful..just look at the car your lecturer drive noe d... what field u in? might need to spend sometime b4 u actually bcome lecturer..not so easy as other jobs
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post Jan 19 2009, 10:48 PM

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yup.. atleast master/phD.. n time consuming..
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post Jan 19 2009, 10:59 PM

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there are two choices when it comes to lecturing: IPTA or IPTS. each has very different outcome, depending on how u see it.

at the moment, IPTAs will definitely turn u into an academician, as the government will automatically sponsor u for ur masters and PhD wherever u wanna go (yes, even to the most expensive universities in the world as long as u can qualify for it). then there will be a contract for 7 years, which normally u can use to get at least an associate professor title. by then, ur basic salary would reach about RM6k (add about RM1.5k for allowances etc). this does not include any consultancy jobs or practice u do outside (which most lecturers are recommended to do).

in IPTS, u're more of a professional who teaches. meaning it is always assumed that u will be working as a professional in the related fields while at the same time teaching the students. this would mean u will be less involved in research, hence there is no need for them to send u to do ur masters or PhD. but there are a few dedicated academics in each course, but their number is small. i do know that some IPTS sponsor a small number of their staffs for PhD, but i'm not aware of the duration of the contract.




that's just briefly. there's a similar topic in the Jobs section where this have been discussed in quite detail.
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post Jan 19 2009, 11:50 PM

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Depending on the type of courses that are still marketable..... IPTS usually are on the look out for potential lecturers to teach in their institutions.
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post Jan 19 2009, 11:57 PM

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well in my college, which is Sunway UC, for foundation program,normal lectures can get 4k to 6k, senior lecture can get 6K to 8k, and foundation program director can get up to 10K.
IINM, tho.
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post Jan 20 2009, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ Jan 19 2009, 10:41 PM)
lecturer in lyn is azarimy.. lecturer very successful..just look at the car your lecturer drive noe d... what field u in? might need to spend sometime b4 u actually bcome lecturer..not so easy as other jobs
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still doing pre-u atm. considering my choices
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post Jan 20 2009, 12:38 AM

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lecturering is a respectful job. but there are sacrifices if you intend to be one, in any of the discipline or institutions, that is, if you wish to be a good lecturer.

nonetheless, it is surely a rewarding career, not a job.

good luck and keep focused.
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lecturing good la. working hours very flexible for lecturers in my uni. if got no class, no need to come in. so you've got alot of free time. thats what i'll like. hahahaha...

pay wise, not that bad for lecturer. but tutor, its pretty low.
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well, initial prospects are high and u get good reputation, but to really earn $$$? not really an option.
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post Jan 20 2009, 11:50 AM

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Depends on which college/uni also rite? But you see Taylor's College so rich, they pay the lecturers very low brows.gif ( cannot tell SOS ).
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QUOTE(booby @ Jan 20 2009, 11:50 AM)
Depends on which college/uni also rite? But you see Taylor's College so rich, they pay the lecturers very low  brows.gif  ( cannot tell SOS ).
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wow i didn't know about that. i tot Taylor's College Lecturers should have high pays.

anyway how high the pay is depends on the particular Uni and of coz ur qualification.

i guess Sunway should have higher pay than any other Uni right?
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QUOTE(booby @ Jan 20 2009, 11:50 AM)
Depends on which college/uni also rite? But you see Taylor's College so rich, they pay the lecturers very low  brows.gif  ( cannot tell SOS ).
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wao..tats a really TOP secret info u got there...... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Jan 20 2009, 03:11 PM

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actually, IPTS dont pay their lecturers as much as u think they do. but it's still higher than most other jobs. and since they are private companies, they can pay u whatever rate they deem appropriate, not what u believe u should get.

i have a couple of friends working in IPTS. if u're good, u'll advance pretty quick and easily earn RM6k even without a masters. but if u're bad (or perceived by the management/admin as bad), u'll stay at RM2.5k. better yet, if they could find a better replacement, OUT you go!

in IPTAs, they dont normally kick u out unless u broke the laws or something. but what they'll do is transfer u to another university or college where u'll do less harm. or maybe transfer u to administrative duties.

salary wise, if u're DAMN good, IPTAs could pay u up to RM15-18k as a full fledged professor.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 20 2009, 03:11 PM)
actually, IPTS dont pay their lecturers as much as u think they do. but it's still higher than most other jobs. and since they are private companies, they can pay u whatever rate they deem appropriate, not what u believe u should get.

i have a couple of friends working in IPTS. if u're good, u'll advance pretty quick and easily earn RM6k even without a masters. but if u're bad (or perceived by the management/admin as bad), u'll stay at RM2.5k. better yet, if they could find a better replacement, OUT you go!

in IPTAs, they dont normally kick u out unless u broke the laws or something. but what they'll do is transfer u to another university or college where u'll do less harm. or maybe transfer u to administrative duties.

salary wise, if u're DAMN good, IPTAs could pay u up to RM15-18k as a full fledged professor.
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so no one answered my question yet? i mean after pre-u where to advance to if im interested in this field?
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post Jan 20 2009, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(darren chia @ Jan 20 2009, 08:25 AM)
so no one answered my question yet? i mean after pre-u where to advance to if im interested in this field?
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u didnt ask that, kiddo tongue.gif.

here's the thing about becoming an academician/lecturer: u dont study to become a lecturer. so there's no specific pre-u or degree that u would have to take to become a lecturer. to become a lecturer in a particular field, u need atleast a masters or about 10 years working experience in a particular field. for example, if u wanna be an accountancy lecturer, then u'll need an accountancy degree/masters or relevant qualifications. u cant become an accountancy lecturer with an engineering degree, can u?




btw, what's ur highest education to date?
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post Jan 20 2009, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ Jan 19 2009, 10:41 PM)
lecturer in lyn is azarimy.. lecturer very successful..just look at the car your lecturer drive noe d... what field u in? might need to spend sometime b4 u actually bcome lecturer..not so easy as other jobs
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My lecturer drives a Silver, a MRS and and a SLK. -___-" Conspiracy theory much?

azarimy, if my memory serves me right all the IPTA lecturers have to go through some sort of special colleges for lecturers right? Like the ones in Bandar Tun Razak, KL. My cousin wish to become a lecturer and she doesn't know where to headstart. hmm.gif
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post Jan 20 2009, 08:22 PM

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depends on which university are u in

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