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 Folding Bicycle like...........Dahon?, Any Idea..??? Please contribute.. Thx

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etigge
post Jul 17 2013, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(jackiewong @ Jul 17 2013, 11:26 PM)
good... haha.. served me well although i only ride it for 4 times since i bought..  biggrin.gif .. by the way.. my hand is itchy now  tongue.gif .. try to change the tires from 20x1.50 to 20x1.25 if possible and not too expensive..
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There are cheaper 1.25 slicks out there. Near my place, Kimbell Jaya is selling them at RM60 each.
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post Jul 18 2013, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(budgee @ Jul 17 2013, 10:58 PM)
Change to thinner tyre whereas I want to change to big fatter tyres.... he he.

My bike comes with Schwalbe Kojak, really botak and smooth but with high pressure, it can get sometimes to be a bit bumpy. 

I am hoping that if I change to fatter tyres like Big apple or Maxxis DTH, the ride quality would be more comfortable...
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hmm
i tink tyres wideness depends on ones riding style
from dis two days of riding with dth
yes, it does absorb minor small bumps/potholes/roads unevenness
de ride is more comfortable than befor
more stable
but
the trade for dat comfortable is de ability to sprint
it takes a litle bit extra effort than before
but then
i didnt do a lot of sprinting anyway
so i dont mind at all
im not a racing kaki hehe tongue.gif

befor dis i kinda fancy schwalbe durano
but it doesnt come in wide size
for those who want narrower tyre can try dis one
if more racing can use schwalbe kojak tongue.gif
then from my reading
i learn dat for those touring kaki they use schwalbe marathon
for durability n long lasting
then i knew bout balloon tyre schwalbe big apple n big ben
im eyeing big apple at first
but then comes samo n his maxxis dth
so now im also a "dth"ers
dth"ers or dth"ian?
hell is ther such words?haha tongue.gif

and also when i do some research for de tyres
things to consider is the fork wideness/clearance
racing type tend to have narrow clearance thus not able to fit wider tires (ie;minivelo)
and also rim types
20" rims got two types
406 and 451
normal 20" bike usually is 406
451 is a rare case (n even harder to find the tires for it too)
de rims usually standardised by etrto(euro tyre rims standard thingy or somting)
so any tyres wide or narrow can fit to it
i too use to worry bout this cuz my rims are double walled and looks so narrow
thank god they fit each other nice n firm
or else...
or else im doomed doh.gif haha

n bike tires itself is a headache too
thers many choices of 20" bikes of any wideness
the narrowest is i tink schwalbe ultremo zx 20x0.9 (dis is what?superduperextreme racing?haha)
and de widest im not so sure
are there 20x3.0 tires?(y wud anybody wants one anyway? tongue.gif )
its too many choices rclxub.gif
everiting is available online
but r they available locally?
dats de problem
so

u may just forget n ignore everiting i said
n take ur bike to bike shop (those mentioned in dis thread preferably)
kautim tongue.gif
can or canot
got or not
pomen can tell u rite away (or not; cuz some pomen not used to 20" or folding bike.dats y i said go to those shop mentioned in de thread.u might want to read dis thread from start.or myb not.myb just read from january dis year tongue.gif )

but then
i cud be wrong
cuz like "mini velo mtb"
hell i dont even know such things exists
haha

cheers
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post Jul 18 2013, 06:35 PM

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May i know which cycling shop are selling Litepro wheelset for Dahon ? cause i saw from Bangkok cycling website selling Litepro wheelset very nice with novatec hub only rm 600+
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post Jul 18 2013, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(kongkiew @ Jul 18 2013, 06:35 PM)
May i know which cycling shop are selling Litepro wheelset for Dahon ? cause i saw from Bangkok cycling website selling Litepro wheelset very nice with novatec hub only rm 600+
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My Bike Shop has a pair of these in stock! There's only a set left from 3 sets. It uses American Classic hubs with Kinetix rims. It's actually the same wheelset used in Dahon Vectors. Very nice but expect to pay a little more. I got a set of Novatecs with Weinmann DA16 for about RM480.

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post Jul 18 2013, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(theotheryun @ Jul 18 2013, 04:56 PM)
hmm
i tink tyres wideness depends on ones riding style
from dis two days of riding with dth
yes, it does absorb minor small bumps/potholes/roads unevenness
de ride is more comfortable than befor
more stable but the trade for dat comfortable is de ability to sprint it takes a litle bit extra effort than before
but then i didnt do a lot of sprinting anyway
so i dont mind at all
im not a racing kaki hehe  tongue.gif

befor dis i kinda fancy schwalbe durano
but it doesnt come in wide size
for those who want narrower tyre can try dis one
if more racing can use schwalbe kojak  tongue.gif
then from my reading
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Yes, You are right, theotheryun.

The Kojak tyres are designed to make it very quick to pick up speed as there is little rolling resistance due to the skinny design and high pressure - 60 to 80 kpi.
That is the marvelous thing about it being so skinny, as there is very little contact with the road, smaller than a 10 sen coin surface and the tires are supporting about 80 to 90 kg.
I think the Duranos would be even faster with 100 kpi.

But on dirt tracks and trails in the forest, the skinny tires are not able to grip much and will be dangerous to ride fast. The front wheel can slide when cornering in the sand.





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post Jul 18 2013, 10:28 PM

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During one of the weekend mornings I was riding my bike tern P18, and with 20 inch wheels like a small children's bike, I am at times overtaking or keeping level with some of the cars on the roads as I could be doing about 22 kph. Then in the cars, most of the children will perk up and put their hands on the windows and stare at me riding, pedalling quite slowly but moving quite fast.. Then the parents will slow down and try to look at me as well.

Then another time, during a week day, it was an evening rush hour to get home in the heart of town, and all the cars were not moving. I had left the office with my office long sleeve shirt and long pants and with a bagpack on by back with a bike helmet on. I was just moving slowly when suddenly a car pulled up closer to my bike and the lady driver inside bent over to the passenger side window and gave me a thumbs up sign and a wide smile. I give her back a thumbs up sign.



And later leaving KL on Jalan Tun Sambanthan, on my way back to PJ, a motorcyclist with a lady passenger, give me a toot and give me a thumbs up sign as well as I was moving quite fast. (i pedalled fast actually to avoid breathing in too much of the bus fumes).
I waved back.

These are the some of the human exchanges which I will not encounter when I am behind the wheel of a car stuck in a traffic jam somewhere.


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post Jul 18 2013, 10:41 PM

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alot of ppl would love to be like u riding a bike.... at tht time...
but they just can't..........
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post Jul 18 2013, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(kongkiew @ Jul 18 2013, 06:35 PM)
May i know which cycling shop are selling Litepro wheelset for Dahon ? cause i saw from Bangkok cycling website selling Litepro wheelset very nice with novatec hub only rm 600+
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RM600 + only. I also want. This is online website purchase? which one?
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jul 18 2013, 09:54 PM)
My Bike Shop has a pair of these in stock! There's only a set left from 3 sets. It uses American Classic hubs with Kinetix rims. It's actually the same wheelset used in Dahon Vectors. Very nice but expect to pay a little more. I got a set of Novatecs with Weinmann DA16 for about RM480.

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Wow, nice! You have any idea what's the price like? RM1,000 RM 1,500 or RM2,000

By the way, do you know whether the Novatecs is better or higher range that the American Classic hubs?
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post Jul 18 2013, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(budgee @ Jul 18 2013, 11:35 PM)
Wow, nice!  You have any idea what's the price like?  RM1,000 RM 1,500 or  RM2,000

By the way, do you know whether the Novatecs is better or higher range that the American Classic hubs?
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I think around RM1500. GW selling over RM2000. Off course American Classic is better! tongue.gif

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post Jul 18 2013, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(budgee @ Jul 18 2013, 11:24 PM)
RM600 + only.  I also want.  This is online website purchase?  which one?
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Here's a litepro. Only renmibi 850.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=8001229...14.12317209.0.0
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post Jul 19 2013, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Jul 18 2013, 11:48 PM)
So Renminbi 850 is about RM445. hmmm..... so compared to over RM1,000, savings of more than RM500 if buy online.

So some of the online sellers can make some good money by buying and selling.
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post Jul 19 2013, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(budgee @ Jul 19 2013, 12:01 AM)
So Renminbi 850 is about RM445.  hmmm.....  so compared to over RM1,000, savings of more than RM500 if buy online.

So some of the online sellers can make some good money by buying and selling.
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Many of the online traders are making money but cycling is a small market compared to other products. You can contact a few lowyat forummers who does a service of getting the stuffs in for you for a commission. Means you pay them upfront and they order it through their offices (I think more like contacts) in China, then they sent it back to Malaysia and you collect it. You just message them the url of the product and they check it and quote you.

Then again there are too many parallel products coming out from China's factories. Most are labelled the same but are actually fakes. They can be identical but fakes (still usable though), only cannot be assured of the quality.
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Am still planning to get a comfy saddle ...

am planning to to go usjcycles or mybicycleshop ...

Anyone has any good bicycle shop to go to?

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post Jul 19 2013, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Jul 19 2013, 10:48 AM)
Am still planning to get a comfy saddle ...

am planning to to go usjcycles or mybicycleshop ...

Anyone has any good bicycle shop to go to?
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Go see Johnny at My Bike Shop. I saw he has some Selle Royale( big ones tongue.gif ). Was there the whole day yesterday.
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post Jul 19 2013, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Jul 19 2013, 10:55 AM)
Go see Johnny at My Bike Shop. I saw he has some Selle Royale( big ones  tongue.gif ). Was there the whole day yesterday.
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saddle shopping! hahaha am still thinking if i should take up the michelin country rock from him too ..
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post Jul 19 2013, 11:58 AM

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I found an online seller for bicycle accessories. Anyone bought anything from him before?


https://www.facebook.com/MikeBicycleShop

Saw some nice things like the Selle Royal Seta at a very nice price.. others like Avid brake levers, cassettes... hmm.. looks very very interesting..

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QUOTE(budgee @ Jul 19 2013, 11:58 AM)
I found an online seller for bicycle accessories.  Anyone bought anything from him before?
https://www.facebook.com/MikeBicycleShop

Saw some nice things like the Selle Royal Seta at a very nice price..  others like Avid brake levers, cassettes... hmm.. looks very very interesting..
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Yes, I bought something from him before. Very reliable and a friendly chap.
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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Jul 19 2013, 11:00 AM)
saddle shopping! hahaha am still thinking if i should take up the michelin country rock from him too ..
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26 inches MTB tyres , the best should be Hutchinson Phython, available at MBS also. thumbup.gif
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I am now looking at how to improve the "engine" better, meaning the leg muscles, body fitness... .

We don't have unlimited cash, so the best way is to get the good basics at a fair price that will ensure a comfortable, fast and enjoyable bike. The next thing is to improve our fitness and strength. I think in the beginning, the aches and pains were there, but after riding more and more, i find it gets easier to go longer and longer distances.

So far, with the Tern P18, and having bought some additional accessories to go with it, I found that the following really helps in giving a great riding experience.

- Selle Royal Dardo saddle - comfortable long rides
- Schwalbe Kojak tyres - fast pickup, low rolling resistance
- cateye micro wireless computer - speed, distance travelled, average speed, time taken (shiok sendiri mostly)
- Shimano Tiagra RD and Microshift - great gear shifting, very smooth and always lets me pick the right gearing for the existing road and traffic conditions (but the Front Derail seems to be a bit problematic - shift down to the small gear is ok, especially when approaching the traffic lights, just press and it goes to low gear, nice)
- Biologic Arx handlegrips - really, really useful to keep my hands comfortable, I can rest my palms on the flat ends when cruising, so helps me enjoy the ride more for longer periods.
- Kinetix speedstop V brakes - good brakes when needed is a good feeling that is always in the back of my mind when I am speeding downhill.
- Avid FR5 brake levers, gives a responsive feel to the brakes, giving more confidence to the bike's braking ability.
- Knog headlights 2 - got highlight beam, got low light, got energy saving alternating lights, comes with helmet mount too and it will shine wherever I look at. No need buy batteries, chargeable via USB, upfront expensive but save money in long run and waterproof too. ...
- knog blinders 1 rear - constant red, flickering fast and then slow, flickering like a star, slowly blinking light.



So far as I can tell, the things that matter most to me on my rides are the following:-
- Saddle comfort
- Gear shifters are fast, accurate and positive
- Handlegrips comfort
- Good brakes are a must
- Riding position - slightly forward but still upright, no stress on the hands/palms too much, don't like the race like crouching position - neck will be stiff, back bones too old, arms will ache... etc...


- And when pedalling, the length between the pedals at the lowest position and the saddle should be just about let the legs extend until its just slightly bent at the knees with the ball of the foot rest on the pedals and not the middle part of the foot or the heel. So far the standard pedals seems plasticky but no problems so far..


I am now on the lookout for a good mirror to mount, maybe get some front panners bags, - dunno how much its going to cost but not much money left after I got all the above... sad.gif


perhaps also change the pedals but they still work fine. no point throwing away good money.

Nevertheless, its been a great experience so far. Riding and greeting people along the way, nodding and waving at fellow bikers who pass by.

And in the process, get a lot of exercise too..

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