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The Tailoring Thread, Bespoke. Nothing beats a perfect fit
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MeToo
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Mar 9 2012, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(adkins981 @ Mar 9 2012, 02:04 PM) for a person who doesnt know much bout these or doesnt know the terms well enough might not b able to communicate well with their tailor... A good tailor should b able to read ur mind in some way or ask questions to for a suit should be done for the customer.. For someone who doesnt know much about a shirt/suit etc.... its better to go buy RTW. If they dont know what they want, how do they communicate that to the tailor?
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adkins981
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Mar 9 2012, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Mar 9 2012, 03:15 PM) For someone who doesnt know much about a shirt/suit etc.... its better to go buy RTW. If they dont know what they want, how do they communicate that to the tailor? sorry if my phrasing wasn't correct earlier, what i meant was they know what they want but doenst know the terms well enough to communicate with the tailor... I'm pretty sure most of the customers, when doing a bespoke shirt would like a perfect fit with the correct material of their choice.
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MeToo
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Mar 9 2012, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(adkins981 @ Mar 9 2012, 02:20 PM) sorry if my phrasing wasn't correct earlier, what i meant was they know what they want but doenst know the terms well enough to communicate with the tailor... I'm pretty sure most of the customers, when doing a bespoke shirt would like a perfect fit with the correct material of their choice. If they dont know what they want, this is what they end up with. Material : Something silly liek 160s, or 200s Fitting : so "fitted" they cant breath or sit, or the standard house sack cut. But... all is not lost, they can easily bring another friend along... helps a lot during the fitting session for the clueless. And... go to a 'decent' tailor... even the famed "ah loke" will give u a sack cut if you dont know what you want. Try something else.. liek "Bespoked" or "Wardrobe" etc to end up with something decent/wearable. These guys will atleast give you proper sleeve rotation etc etc... This post has been edited by MeToo: Mar 9 2012, 02:26 PM
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adkins981
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Mar 9 2012, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Mar 9 2012, 03:25 PM) If they dont know what they want, this is what they end up with. Material : Something silly liek 160s, or 200s Fitting : so "fitted" they cant breath or sit, or the standard house sack cut. But... all is not lost, they can easily bring another friend along... helps a lot during the fitting session for the clueless. And... go to a 'decent' tailor... even the famed "ah loke" will give u a sack cut if you dont know what you want. Try something else.. liek "Bespoked" or "Wardrobe" etc to end up with something decent/wearable. These guys will atleast give you proper sleeve rotation etc etc... yeah, thats y choosing the right tailor is important. they should understand what customers want even when they speak in laymen's term..
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MeToo
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Mar 9 2012, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(adkins981 @ Mar 9 2012, 02:29 PM) yeah, thats y choosing the right tailor is important. they should understand what customers want even when they speak in laymen's term.. I think... they just have a more modern cut, i'm sure they will nod and smile politely if the customer make stupid demands/comments, but you will end up with a decent shirt/suit cause that is what they do. But it comes at a premium. If the client knows what they want then they can save a few bucks and get cheaper tailors.
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adkins981
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Mar 9 2012, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Mar 9 2012, 03:39 PM) I think... they just have a more modern cut, i'm sure they will nod and smile politely if the customer make stupid demands/comments, but you will end up with a decent shirt/suit cause that is what they do. But it comes at a premium. If the client knows what they want then they can save a few bucks and get cheaper tailors. yeah i guess so, take me for example. i wanna get a bespoke shirt and looking around for decent tailor (am planning to try bespoked at 1utama).. i don't know speaking in their terms such as how i want the collar, buttons, and shoulder cutting. i would just give a brief description to them...
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MeToo
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Mar 9 2012, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(adkins981 @ Mar 9 2012, 02:41 PM) yeah i guess so, take me for example. i wanna get a bespoke shirt and looking around for decent tailor (am planning to try bespoked at 1utama).. i don't know speaking in their terms such as how i want the collar, buttons, and shoulder cutting. i would just give a brief description to them... I usually use Wardrobe. For shirts they have a printed checklist. If you are not sure, the list have pictures of the design, liek what collar, what pleats, how the cuff is etc. Buttons most have a range of MOP/horns for you to choose, except some lames ones who shows you plastic buttons and say "See they LOOK like mops".
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adkins981
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Mar 9 2012, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Mar 9 2012, 03:46 PM) I usually use Wardrobe. For shirts they have a printed checklist. If you are not sure, the list have pictures of the design, liek what collar, what pleats, how the cuff is etc. Buttons most have a range of MOP/horns for you to choose, except some lames ones who shows you plastic buttons and say "See they LOOK like mops". may i know where is wardrobe?? hows the pricing like? (for shirts)
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MeToo
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Mar 9 2012, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(adkins981 @ Mar 9 2012, 02:47 PM) may i know where is wardrobe?? hows the pricing like? (for shirts) Er.... they have a website and several branches. i use the Bangsar branch. pricing I think starts at 220 for shirt? i use my own fabric and is quite regular.. so they are kinda relax with my pricing.
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adkins981
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Mar 9 2012, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Mar 9 2012, 03:56 PM) Er.... they have a website and several branches. i use the Bangsar branch. pricing I think starts at 220 for shirt? i use my own fabric and is quite regular.. so they are kinda relax with my pricing. i see.. when i got the time ill check it out.. Bangsar is kinda far from where I'm usually at.. thanks
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lesboutons
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Mar 9 2012, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Mar 9 2012, 11:32 AM) I'm sorry to say this, but the fault is not solely with the tailor. There are fitting sessions, there are dialogues with the tailor on what you want etc. If the workmanship is bad, then its probably the tailor's lack of skill. But generally I notice the majority of those going for a "bespoke" shirt/suit dont really know what they want, or lack the skills to communicate it effectively to the tailor. If that is the case... pls find a VERY good tailor who can read your mind  i didn't go to a bespoke tailor. i was a young college kid who went to spark manshop. i told the tailor repeatedly that the suit was way too baggy but he insisted that it is impossible to slim down more. good thing spark manshop offers free alterations for life. i have taken it back to 2 different branches to have it slimmed down more, and now it is slightly more wearable.
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MeToo
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Mar 9 2012, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(lesboutons @ Mar 9 2012, 03:28 PM) i didn't go to a bespoke tailor. i was a young college kid who went to spark manshop. i told the tailor repeatedly that the suit was way too baggy but he insisted that it is impossible to slim down more. good thing spark manshop offers free alterations for life. i have taken it back to 2 different branches to have it slimmed down more, and now it is slightly more wearable. Ahh... basically the sales person fed you a bucket of BS... These days a lot of cheap RTW brands like Padini, G2000 etc offers slimcut jackets/suits. Some even come with working cuffs!!
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lesboutons
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Mar 9 2012, 08:57 PM
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does wardrobe provide bespoke services? i always thought they are similar to spark manshop.
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adkins981
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Mar 10 2012, 12:36 AM
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acording to metoo, they do.. gotta check them out and have them compared to bespoked
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lesboutons
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Mar 10 2012, 02:30 AM
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bespoked doesn't have great reviews.
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MeToo
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Mar 10 2012, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(lesboutons @ Mar 9 2012, 08:57 PM) does wardrobe provide bespoke services? i always thought they are similar to spark manshop. Oh yes they do... last when I talked to the CEO, they were planning to go into made to measure shoes as well... They do have a big showroom with extensive samples etc... i find their branch in pavilion SEVERELY lacking... the only plus was that there is a pretty hot lookign girl workign there..
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adkins981
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Mar 10 2012, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(lesboutons @ Mar 10 2012, 03:30 AM) bespoked doesn't have great reviews. i guess it depends on how much information u could input to him... i haven't done any with him anyway.. will comment on it once i done it
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lesboutons
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Mar 10 2012, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Mar 10 2012, 12:23 PM) Oh yes they do... last when I talked to the CEO, they were planning to go into made to measure shoes as well... They do have a big showroom with extensive samples etc... i find their branch in pavilion SEVERELY lacking... the only plus was that there is a pretty hot lookign girl workign there.. wow that is interesting. how is the rm220 for shirts for workmanship alone?
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TSjind86
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Mar 11 2012, 04:08 AM
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QUOTE(adkins981 @ Mar 5 2012, 07:04 PM) is that shirt u got a bespoke shirt?? Yes it is tailor made. My newest suit will be ready by next Saturday as well.
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MeToo
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Mar 11 2012, 06:50 AM
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QUOTE(lesboutons @ Mar 10 2012, 06:47 PM) wow that is interesting. how is the rm220 for shirts for workmanship alone? The workmanship is around 200~220, this is inclusive of MOP buttons, any contrasting inner collar lining etc. They do have some material that can get you a shirt all in around 250 onwards if I remember correctly, i havent used their material in a long while. This post has been edited by MeToo: Mar 11 2012, 06:54 AM
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