yes.. if just wanto study for the sick of more $$

why no do sales terus... do more , more $ masuk...simple aje

form 5 also can earn 20-30k a month!

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Added on January 8, 2009, 11:56 pmgood ..tomoro my co. alot ppl can resign

This post has been edited by megatron007: Jan 8 2009, 11:56 PM

It's not about whether you can or not (ie. possible or not). It's a matter of how likely or how common.

Even a paralysed man who cannot speak nor do anything for himself can earn millions of dollars. But in the whole world, there's probably only one of this type of supremely extraordinary person.

Why stop at Form 5? Form 1 also can earn 20-30K a month lah. Never study and don't know how to read and write also can lah. Jeez.

Which is why I get irritated with the morons in the Jobs & Careers section who continually cite examples of lowly educated folks who earn big bucks or those who do so at a very young age and actually EXPECT this to be achievable by any ali, ah kow and ramasamy in Malaysia.

The meaning of the word EXCEPTION is alien to such retards.

everyone in malaysia will become rich ppl as they will be earning 20-30k a month.. LOL.

i have an uncle who used to be poor last time and didn't study till very high so he only work as a kuli..
but then, due to his hard work, he manage to open up his own hardware store.. now, he hv few hardware shop around malaysia and already retired and taken over by his son..

without education and with hardwork, one can be successful in their life.. but then, how many ppl can achieve this? even if you hard hardworking, it doesn't means you can be successful, etc..
even if you do sales.. you think all the salesman can earn so much?

Really agree with SPS that many ppl dun understand the word EXCEPTION..

i think there's a different between a MBA holder and non MBA kwa....i have a fren that got his degree then terus do MBA, after that got a job at RM3k (first job upon graduation)...

depends.. but many MNC company will pay a bit higher for those with master degree...
my ex-company pay RM300 extra if you have master...

There is no any marginal or reference for a paycheck of an MBA graduates. It all depends individual bargaining power & skills. The most important is their relevant career individual opt too.

For IB a good MBA , then go / stay overseas.

Locally you don't need a MBA to get in , you just have to know what to do.

MBA is abit overqualified in msia

C'mon stop bashing the MBA holders. They deserve some credit on their continuing quest of seeking knowledge. From my perspective, one should accumulate a certain amount of experience before opting for MBA. Without exposure to the Rat Race in the competitive globalization, one wouldnt appreciate the value of an MBA, so do their employers. Synergy between MBA and salary will only be bridged by years of working experience.

On a side note, the EXTRAORDINARY cases where ali, ah kow or ramasamy becoming a millionaire without knowledge is applicable N years ago where N approaches 50. Those days, you must have connection, oppurtunity and luck (still applicable now) to reach the golden platform. In this centuary, to become a successful entrepreneur you need to be leveraged. Thus you need loans from Banks. Needless to say, Banks will agree to borrow when they are confident in your level of management which education proves helpful, Initialliy.

All in all, lets rest the case that EXCEPTION do exist because it is almost subjective to the core. But one thing for sure, statistics will show the odds of failing is greater than succeeding. Rest assure, education is profound key to success .

This post has been edited by keelim: Jan 9 2009, 01:03 PM

Strongly agree with you on this.. thumb up for u..

with MBA get only rm 300 more, with an IT cert also can get the same.

Hi guys, just my 2 cents..

MBA will give you more knowledge...open up ur mind in many things that you never though of...the knowledge is really great..and i feel i know something now about money, meet people (important people which can help u in future..networking) and make more friends from dif background..

I am from Engineering...MBA have helped me in many ways...

and i think it might help you all too..

Dont think about money directly....you will get it indirectly...and the knowledge itself is worth millions...and might help you make a better decision in future...to save you more money than you have invested.

will be finishing my MBA next March... ;P

Firstly, congrats on the 6month old thread necro. Secondly, how are you claiming that your "MBA has helped you in many ways," when you aren't actually due to finish it for another half a year?

If you're talking about applying the concepts to your work, well, you could probably just read the 12-hour MBA Program and achieve the same thing

Anyway MBA's are only as useful as the person holding them. I've had a colleague with an MBA from UPM (supposedly one of Msia's higher ranked business schools), and she was pretty rubbish in her job.

Few of you pointed out some pretty good points: it's a different millennium and stop dreaming coz the cases doesn't apply to everyone.

Thing is, if you have MBA it might help in writing your portfolio/ profile in future (but that doesn't mean Degree doesn't help) if you happen to work for large organizations like MNC/ public listed company. When it comes to entry level, I believe the pay is only slightly higher than degree holder. It doesn't matter MBA or not, in workforce you're required to start from entry level in any job.

When you take your MBA, do understand your 'intention' for taking it. Advancement of career? Market requirement/ demand? Self improvement? Money?

I know of sum ppl who took MBA juz coz they didn't know what to do after their degree... so they continued to study without any direction.

I'm agree with you because for entry level degree is more than enough, what I suggest is doing part time MBA/Master while working will bring more benefit to you. While u getting ur working experience and u upgrading your qualification, you will have Master and wokring experience at the same time, no problem for u to get better pay.

of coz there are someone who can get very high pay after Degree-Master but not many, and very few....

Not some, mostly are.

To answer your question..how it have helped me...

One of them is networking...i get to meet a lot of people in big position...
And the knowledge...and how you view thing differently is important too...

If you read a book...yes, you can also get knowledge..but not contacts...

Yes..i totally agree with you, it depends on who is holding it...if you have low self confidence..cant speak fluent English...etc...even if you have PhD got problem later...

Haven't grad yet, but already have offers coming in...

@deodorant
When u said ur colleague failed to live up the expectation as a MBA holders, I think it is the UPM fail to filter out those junk student like Harvard...
U can not expect UPM (or any other MBA courses in malaysia) to guarantee a quality of their grads unfortunately. It all depends on the dedication of the students.
If UPM is filter out junk, and only take in those brilliant student, like HBS do, UPM may have to enrol only 20 students, they have to charge you 200k instead of 20k and of course hired those star prof

This post has been edited by chgchksg128: Aug 16 2009, 11:40 PM

instead of spending all the money to get into on of the local MBA program, how about spend a few hour every week to go through so of the free course material from world top business school? like MIT opencourse and all those top uni on itunes university

http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Sloan-School-of-...ement/index.htm

http://www.apple.com/education/mobile-learning/