MBS harvard can't demand 12k ? i don't think so , they would be barking at your door.

Anyone who graduates from Harvard and comes back to Malaysia to work is an idiot and deserves the low pay that Malaysian companies give

you'll be surprised there are a few and they are earning big

r u one of them?
if those from harvard, i guess they can demand such high pay..
but if juz a MBA from normal oversea Uni, i dun think u can demand such pay..

Very few, if any, companies pay you more simply because you have a MBA.

Most companies however will readily pay more for a person who's ambitious, driven and a proven track record of performance and/or learning. And when you're young with few years of experience - a MBA (when paired with a reasonable job history, solid education and good communication skills) is extremely convincing proof of a potential strong performer. At the very least, the candidate with an MBA shows that he has the drive to outshine his peers.

And for non-finance/business professionals, a mid-career MBA is widely accepted proof of the motivation and enthusiasm of an engineer or scientist etc for management ambitions & responsibilities.

You pay 100k+ extra for MBA to only advance 1-2 years earlier than a degree holder, is it worth?
Within that 2 years, the degree holder might already gained more valuable working experiences.
I'm not saying that MBA is not worth, but not right after you graduate coz it won't do much good unless you're freaking rich and you don't mind.

Best MBA for a person in the part of their early career is a part time one. You don't sacrifice your work experience and you still get a MBA after 3 or 4 years. If you're able to get steady promotions in a full time job and excel at your part time MBA as well... any employer will snap you up as you've proven that you can far outperform your peers by doing both when many of them can't cope with just one.

This post has been edited by seantang: Jan 5 2009, 11:35 PM

i think in Malaysia where it is still developing, people here recognize the work done or experience more than the piece of paper. The qualification is just a pre-requirement to 'apply' for a job, but what u actually do and having the experience actually counts more.

Initially an MBA is not gonna give much increase to ur salary, but give a few months or i'd say 1 year tops, if u show enough 'value' to your work which corresponds to your education qualification, i'd say the MBA holder is stupid if he stays at the same company without any increase despite the performance and 'upgrade' shown...surely he deserves more..

most companies in Malaysia do tend to take advantage of workers, i'd say this is due to oversupply of workforce, nevertheless the staff should know better than to stay for a low salary. It all is supply and demand for the company.

Well I don't know about you. She is not from Harvard but holds MBA. Currently earning 13k the last I heard. Even a fresh grad from oversea who doesn't have MBA starts with 4k salary. I don't know why you guys haven't heard or seen any of it before.

Of course there is underpay fresh grad out there. Everyone has a different path.

I have been working in few MNC company before, but never heard that fresh oversea grad getting 4k salary here..
can you share with us which company paying so high? thanks.

Not at all , just an ordinary guy with some real inside info.

If I was a HvMBA , I think would be in HK as a senior partner in a hedge fund or something.

It depends what you mean by ' normal ' also , most locals don't know how to choose strategic course which aid their careers as the access to quality inside info is not available to them til now that is

So yes I agree from the pov that most people prolly choose the wrong course at right U and vice versa.

What MBA 12+ , if you have a decent MBA + exp + you know what you are doing , in I-banking you can get 30+ in your late 30's to 40's .

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure a Harvard MBA graduate will earn significantly higher than the average MBA/non-MBA person here. But I still maintain that they are idiots for coming back to M'sia for a variety of non-monetary reasons.

Unless it's for things like, family, etc, then it's a different story.

MBA will not sudden blink changes with your career paycheck. But again i said is the "basic" & fundamental skill that you opts from MBA will be able to enhance individual competency along you career path.

Its about how well you capable to utilise MBA into you career. Education level does make significant difference in you career climbing. It relation to how far you able to climb up the corporate ladder with the education that you opt.

Today u grad as a degree(fresh) may has the same paycheck with a diploma holder(5 years exp), but here we look into how far individual capable to climb up the corporate ladder!!

you just answer your own question . Some Malaysians are spoilt kids

also bear in mind my answers relate more to I-banking than anything else.

It is a fact in UK / US that a top MBA doubles your entry pay level . in Ldn it was something like GBP 80-100k per annum + bonus , of occurs that is a world away and before the crash.

Wow...the last time i heard only those operate in black market can earn that much.

To me if im the employer, Mba, PHD, it doesnt really matter, performance matters. ive seen some people with overseas degree, MBA but couldnt converse fluently in english at all during interview, whats the point?

yes... English could be a potential communication problem. I'm not sure abt MBA coz i haven't taken mine, but degree - the marking system is such that they mark for contents, not your english. As long as the coordinator is able to comprehend what the student is trying to say in his/her exam/assignments, marks will be given. there is no discrimination in the English.

Yet we demand freh grads with higher quality, it's understandable.

Overseas are popular with 'buying' certs. i think this topic used to be a headline in Star paper few backs back right? i still remember.

i think you are refering to the uni system in Malaysia, in overseas eg, Australia for certain uni, communication skills do contribute to your marks and not just written skills.

An employer should only raise the salary alongside with their workers contribution. How much difference in contribution can one provide from degree to post grad eg MBA ?

currently i study in a local uni twin with aus uni..i do agree mba graduate wont get high pay after graduate.
bt if to get promote, definite mba holder has the priority.

hope to work overseas to gain more exp after grad

What is the big deal of Having this MBA .. and what is the point of this MBA ... when you are seeking your 1st JOB....

for what i know ... a proper MBA is only a title given to a working adult ( minimum 4 years of senior level expriences in the field ) and one has to be at least 33 yrs of age ...that is the minimum qualification one has to had b4 taking up this MBA course


so ... whom ever is asking this question ... ask how qualify are you 1st ..