looks like taylor's programme is running into trouble.......for them to offer such scholarships, means enrolment is low.....

not surprised, considering the partner med schools....

it would be a BIG mistake to run healthcare like a business.......believe me........

there isn't any information about this in their website.....

the most difficult part of medical training is the clinical component........and we are running out of hospitals to send students for training.....

so i do not think there is any local programme........

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Added on September 12, 2010, 11:19 pmit's pretty much standard for all uk med schools to require aaa for entry.......and in the near future, maybe 1 or 2 a* as well..........

however, even with aaa, it will still be significantly MORE difficult to go direct entry into a uk med school, than going by the taylor's pathway........bmat/ukcat exam, personal statement, interview..........


This post has been edited by limeuu: Sep 12 2010, 11:19 PM

who 'recognition' means nothing........

in any case, it is not 'recognition' but just registration with who....which means they acknowledge the existence of that med school.......

this is obviously meant for malay/muslims only.....entry requirement is the usual spm credits, and matrik/asasi......didn't bother with stpm, let alone international pre-u's like a levels or ib.......

and yemen!!..........we are indeed scraping the very bottom of the barrel............

many mou's are not worth the ink used in the document........

the underlying philosophy of jhu and msian educational policies are worlds apart, almost at opposite ends of the spectrum.......how can it work?.........

This post has been edited by limeuu: Nov 3 2010, 10:56 PM

i think the mmc should ban all foundation pathways into medicine.......all potential medical students should have a proper mainstream generic pre-u qualification..........

some of the 'foundations' are a joke.......especially those russian ones.......might just as well take people straight from spm, instead of the sham 'foundation'............

the underlying philosophy of student selection in ipts med schools (and many foreign ones especially in the 3rd world) is NOT that of selecting the BEST possible students......

it's selecting those that can pay the fees......if they can get reasonable quality students, good..........

if not, they will try to 'help' the students........

such help can be, an easy 'foundation'......low entry requirements.....leniency in assessments.....accurate 'spotting' of exam questions......maybe even marks adjustment with the right incentives.....

smc have taken people from unrecognised unis in as doctors many times before, on a person to person basis........eg, long before they recognised um and ukm 3 years ago, they have taken in graduates from um even in the late 70's.....so theoretically, a usci graduate can gain registration and work as a doctor in spore.........

as for usmle, ucsi is listed in the imed directory and thus students are allowed to sit for usmle to gain recognition to work in the us........

note that most of the new ipts med schools are not in the list.........

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Added on December 23, 2010, 1:04 pmthey use ecfmg to determine eligibility, and ecfmg uses the imed list, as managed by faimer..........

https://imed.faimer.org/results.asp?country...=Asia&psize=100

This post has been edited by limeuu: Dec 23 2010, 01:04 PM

imu is popular not because of branding, but because of the pms stream........and the only established local private mbbs in klang valley greater metropolitan area........

smc takes in people from um only since the 70's, on a case by case basis....later, they also took some from ukm.....

obviously they are very selective who they choose, and where they graduate from......the top students in um/ukm are on par with their own nus students......

the actual numbers available in the pms stream have dropped from the peak in the early 2000's.....but it's more of a shifting from undergraduate pms to graduate pms......the number of places in the later has increased......

the mmc should just go ahead and deregister/derecognise cucms.......after all they did so to crimea for the same crime.....(and taking in arts students as well.....)

welcome to bolehland.....

some would say bodohland.....

it will not be deregistered because the owners and management are all politically linked........

mmc had already slacken the requirement significantly in the past........some 10 years ago, the ratio was doubled to allow one of the new ipta med school to pass.......

i don't see how they can increase the student:lecturer ratio any more........

msia boleh.........

the exam does not solve the other set of problems......ie, the quality of local graduates, both ipta and ipts.....

there is also fear about the transparent conduct of the exam, lest it become another version of the clp for lawyers, which is designed to block and 'engineer' who gets admitted to the bar.....(see the court case a couple of years ago)....

and finally, the logistic difficulty of conducting such an exam for 3000+ new graduates from overseas, if there is a clinical component......

a simpler way of enduring quality is simply to tighten who gets admitted into medical schools......but the mohe/moh have painted themselves into a corner, by allowing too many private schools, and recognising too many foreign med schools.......pathways they have little or no control over.....

in any case, the feeling amongst the profession is, the gov in general is not concerned about quality......they just want the numbers filled.....after all decision makers don't use gov hospitals anyway.....

i don't think anyone is listening to david quek........

i don't think any student is.....

i don't think any parent (especially those so proud that their precious offspring got seven or eight a's in spm) is..........

the agents certainly are not......

everybody wants the easiest, fastest, cheapest way.......

who cares about quality and standards.......

msia boleh......

segi's medical programme is brand new, they haven't even started yet, and there are no details at all about where clinical training is going to take place..........

there will be NO mmc recognition till the 1st batch is in final year.........the programme will then be assessed, and given a provisional recognition if judged acceptable........

if the child is really interested, and has the ability (in the msian context that means straight a's in spm level), it is okay, but choose wisely........

however, most of the time, it's the patents who wants the child to do medicine........even when the child may have little interest, and academically incapable of doing the course.........note that many people look for 'easy courses'.....easy to get in and easy to pass, in addition to cheap.......

the licenses were already approved, not pending approval........but the licensee have not started their programmes.....