it's pretty much the same MINIMUM qualifications required as imu's........except that the minimum is no longer enough for entry in imu..........although it may still be for taylors.........

what is surprising is, taking AAA in a-levels as equivalent to ter90 in sam......based on relative performances by equivalent students in the 2 system, it is estimated that AAA equals a ter of 94-95.........

which is why students with a-levels have an advantage over those with sam/ausmat for entry into aussie med schools......they will consider those with AAA, but those with ter<97 can pretty much say goodbye to any chance of entry........those no-hopers who are on the band 94-97, if they have taken a-levels and got AAA at least will still be considered.........

for taylors, the reverse may now be true.......if st georges accepts ter90, it means they accept ABB or AAB equivalent, but demand straight AAA from a-levels.........

This post has been edited by limeuu: Mar 23 2010, 11:50 PM

recognition by who?

which imu programme?

both registrable with mmc (duh.....of course lah)

fees for imu-pms will of course depend on where you partner off to........but will be significantly more than monash msia.........

unlike msia (and other 3rd world countries, including russia) where they can take in hundreds of medical students with no place to provide clinical training for them, the developed countries, particularly uk/ireland and oz/nz have very strict rules about how many clinical students can be trained, based on the number of beds/patients and teachers available..........

therefore, most of their med schools already are at MAXIMUM allowed capacity for clinical training.........

which is why they see it better to expand their capacity through conducting the clinical training in msia, where such rules are lax........

and that is also why monash does not allow transfers to melbourne for clinicals....

there is a less stringent rule for pre-clinicals, hence conducting that part in the original country, like pmc, and the first 2 batches of monash msia......

imu's model does not stress the partner clinical schools, as each partner only provide very small number of places, many just 2 places per batch....and some clinical vacancies always occur due to people dropping out of their own programme........

it's a new phenomena, that of universities conducting medical training out of their own country.....and regulatory bodies deal with this differently.....spore insist on only recognising those with clinical training done in the parent country.......uk rule that the major part of the course (doesn't matter pre-clinical or clinical) must be done in the parent country....and thus pmc and monash msia are not recognised..........

the gmc rule may change, as their own newcastle is about to start a 100% msia based medical programme........

some depts have up to 40 ho's at a time......more than there are patients!........

even with maldistribution, the number of doctors in said pahang and borneo states are a lot more than in the past, but each successive batch of ho's seems to cope less and less with lighter and lighter workload........

the other 2 answers are correct........if you don't tell people, nobody will know you came through imu...........

i feel i have done my duty.........people who knows the facts have reached critical mass........

there will never be a situation where a local med school is not recognised by the mmc.......they may drag their feet if they find faults with the new med schools, but political pressure will come in and they WILL recognise them........

there is NO such thing as a medical degree recognised 'globally'..........

tap into spore market?........unrealistically optimistic........

the degree will NOT be recognised by smc.......

and i thought the minister of health did unofficially say they are also freezing creation of new med schools........

you are mistaken........

the most important single criteria is, are you intellectually and academically good enough.......
if not, you have NO business doing medicine, no matter how wildly strong you 'desire to become a doctor' is......

why do you want to be one?.........

it does not make any sense to do biomed if you want to do medicine..........there is no 'graduate entry' med school in msia.............

there is no graduate-entry med school in msia......however matured students can apply to enter any of the programmes just like school leavers, but there will be no shortening of the course.....

changing from pharmacy to medicine has happened before....but would suggest poor career counseling in the past......or a failure to secure a place in medicine before.....

masterskill is a twinned programme.........clinical years in india, they didn't say where in their advert........

it doesn't matter, as the students will get a masterskill degree..........which obviously will not be recognised in india...........

even if it is, few if any graduates will want to stay back in india and work, in contrast to students in oecd countries......

incorrect........the ones in russia/ukraine/india/indonesia/egypt etc are all coming back.......and they make up 90% of msian medical students overseas...........

only the small group in oecd countries are likely not to return..........

you figures are way off....

in 2009, 4000+ new doctors joined the workforce.....about 2000 from local med schools (both public and private) and 2000 from overseas.........based on current intake, and new students going off to russia/indonesia/india, this nomber will increase to 5000+ in the next few years......

the 'good' news is that those in oecd countries mostly do NOT return, but they account for only about 200 new doctors a year, maybe only 20% of that will return, even jpa scholars, many do not return......

it is about 1:900 now.....

it will reach who ideal ratio of 1:600 in 2015 at present production rate........

after that, there will be oversupply, but regional shortages will persist, due to maldistribution.......this problem exist in ALL countries, developed and developing..........

biological population growth is slow, i think in msia it is currently 2.5% per annum......

replacement and natural growth need for doctors is about 100/million population....so msia needs about 2800 new doctors to keep up with retiring doctors and biological population growth......

when the targeted ratio is reached, it will be difficult to close the tap.....one cannot just close med schools just like that....

of course there is 'non-biological' population growth......esp in countries with large migrant population, and msia has a BIG foreign worker population, a significant portion of which miraculously become 'msians'.......

the shortage is not dire now......the problem from now on will be maldistribution rather than real shortage.........up to 80% of houseman posted to borneo appeal against the posting.....and surprisingly many of them were successful......

no, it may still not be......

even in advanced countries with ratios of 1:400, there is maldistribution, and rural areas remains underserved...........just think oz......