1. the primary source of 'inflation', or increase of doctors is the 1000 new doctors each from russia and egypt........the ipts contributes little additions, in this case, only an extra 80 plus over their license for 150.......

2. it is not a 'devastating' blow, they just need to refund those who had to leave.......and they will be back to business as usual next year, once their license is reinstated.....yes it WILL be reinstated.........

you will need to have 3a's at a-levels to do that........

why london?.....

living cost is 50-100% more than smaller towns......

and the best uk med schools are not actually in london.....

uk med schools only look at 3 a2 level subjects, chemistry being usually mandatory.......having extra subjects don't give you any advantage over people with 3 principles.....

not as simple as that, i can assure you.....london is a BIG city, and travel time from one end to the other end can take 2-3 hrs.......so if your relative lives far from the med school, you are looking a significant long and costly commute daily......

and while the asian way is often to expect free lodging and food, the normal practice there is you still have to pay for accommodation and food to your relative.....even between parents and children!......

in which case, taylor's partnering with St. Georges is ideal, but there is no guarantee you will get to St. Georges, could very well end up in poland or Indonesia as well......

if she is renting, another caveat.....she may not continue to stay there, leases expires, landlords raise rents, wants place back, people change jobs and move nearer to where job is etc........

i don't know how taylor's is doing it, but if based on the same system as imu, no, you are NOT tied to any pms at entry......you are however guaranteed a place if you pass all exams, but the final matching will decide where you eventually go.....

taylors may do it differently, as the only pms worth going to is st. georges, but since st. georges insist on a clear restriction that only people with 3a's at a-levels (or equivalent) can match to them, that automatically disqualify many students (in imu, that would effectively disqualify more than 1/2)..........

what is worrying is, if you browse their website, much of the information about the twinning programmes have been removed, as is the indonesian partner.....there is mention of the czech partner with no details.....it's 4 years after taylors, so i don't think anyone is ever going to want to go there....st. georges wants aaab, not sure why they want 4 subjects, but they only want aussie atar90......no mention about stpm........

i would go sit down with them and get the REAL facts before deciding.........it looks like their pms programme is failing apart......they have only ONE pms people may be interested in....

that is not correct.......

while bbb is the stated minimum qualification for entry, most intakes have cut off's at aab/atar94 or thereabouts......and they really decide based on the phase 1 performance, not pre-u.....

nobody has gone from taylors, i think because they have only taken the first batch 2 years ago, so the first group may be joining year 3 in st. georges in september..........but surely these info should have been made known by the 'counsellors' (aka saleperson) there?...........

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Added on July 9, 2011, 10:32 pmi should add, even their local programme is fraught with a lack of information.....where on earth is their clinical training hospitals?..........and their academic staffs......the list on the website is pathetic.....

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Added on July 9, 2011, 10:37 pmah.....so.....

looks like there is only 1 pms left, and that is st. georges.....and they are having a say who gets into this backdoor into their programme right from the start..........

seriously, i would go for direct entry if this is this the case.....the fees for the 1st 2 years in london is not much more than the taylors phase 1 fees.......

the only reason to use this pathway is if one cannot get direct entry (ukcat/personal statement/interview gets in the way for many)..........

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Added on July 9, 2011, 10:40 pmfinally, it is a no brainer why the indon partner is dropped........who on earth will want to partner to indonesia through taylors, when one can get direct in cheaper, easier and with much lower pre-u qualifications........

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jul 9 2011, 10:40 PM

with their current intake, that should be adequate.....

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Added on July 9, 2011, 11:03 pmtaylors is good for many courses, but they are doing their medical programme very badly....they tried to copy imu, but could not get reputable med schools to partner with except st. georges, and i suspect that partnership will eventually also disappear, and they are left with their local programme, which has no advantage over the many mushrooming upstarts.........

if you do a search for my comments in this thread, i have said long ago when taylors first announced their pms medical programme, that it is doomed to failure..........

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jul 9 2011, 11:03 PM

same.....

that is only because that's the minimum required by mmc....

they will be hard pressed to find students, and would prefer if the cut off is lower....more chances of finding well off parents with mediocre offsprings they envision becoming rich doctors...after all, mahsa had a head start with taking in ccc's....before mmc come and spoil the game....

i think you are referring to cucms and their over enrolment?.....

they are not 'opening' a new hospital, they are buying into an establish company/hospital, which happens to be also building a new hospital, after that original company sold the old smc to the fed government.....

you have got to be kidding.....

they will take the cream all right....right off your wallet....

which is why, monash msia (and similarly, numed) are not value for money.....because at the end, after all the very high fees, you will be stuck in msia, amongst mediocre students who pay at lot less money and became mediocre doctors.........

going forward, when the internship placement shortage hits (expected this year, already hit in qld), it is unlikely monash msia graduates will get placement in oz....and will thus have to stay back in msia.....

note monash msia is NOT recognised by spore....and numed will similarly not be recognised....

i think, partly because of the increased intake, and partly because of increasing realisation about the problem with monash msia, they seem to have problems filling the places......and hence quality of students have dropped......

he has fully retired since last year.....he hold no official gov positions now....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jan 6 2012, 06:25 PM

indeed.....after he left, 2 new med school licenses were ram through the mmc.........

then they will just re-mark the same students and the same exam, and award 3.5......who's going to monitor this?....

many ipts med schools which did not bother with their own 'foundation' progremmes before, have now decided to introduce it, after their enrolment took a nose drive with the mmc guideline introduced earlier in 2011.......

they could hardly find enough housemanship places for msians, it is unlikely going forward, that foreign students will get offers of housejobs in msia.....

housemanship is compulsory, and needed for full registration with mmc............

the universities CANNOT help foreigners get housemanship jobs....individuals will need to apply directly to the jpa and ministry of health for the job.....

it is amazing what they will promise to get people's money........