it has become a commodity to sell....like houses, cars, furniture....

i am waiting for 'buy one free one' offer....

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Added on June 12, 2012, 12:43 pmright on cue, bernama carried an article on this group of paramedics who carried the burden of rural healthcare over the last 50 years since independence.....

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v6/newsindex.php?id=671988

their days are numbered, as the country is swamped with doctors....i suspect many of these new 'doctors' are not much better than the humble dressers of the old days....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jun 12 2012, 12:43 PM

are you sure you want to be saddled with such a huge debt?.....do note that this dana is NOT a scholarship, but a loan...

trust me.....by the time you graduate, there WILL be unemployed doctors....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jun 17 2012, 11:27 PM

lets put things into perspective....

the course will cost about 300k give or take....

if you do get a job with the moh, your take home pay would be maybe 4k/month, or about 50k/year....assuming you don't eat or drink, and just use the whole salary to pay beck the loan, it will take 6 years.....

if you do like to eat, have a car, go cinema etc......and you can live with half the salary, it will take 12 years....

i think it is crazy to take up such loans under the present climate of over supply.....yes, even the borneo states will be saturated.....

it's different if one has a scholarship....whether 3rd party, or fama....

is that a problem?......

The mmc had actually proposed to de-recognise ALL foreign med schools, and have a common qualifying exam...how is this racial?.....this was turned down by the cabinet....

it is impossible for mmc to monitor all 300+ med schools all over the world for quality....and many are of low standards....

luc was approved AFTER ismail merican was removed as dg....and by the new dg WITHOUT the approval of the full council...............

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Added on June 23, 2012, 8:11 pmthis has nothing to do with healthcare of a patient.....

it is about the training of doctors, which is an academic matter in most places....but a predominantly political and business matter in msia......

because mmc does try to maintain quality, there is now a move to take the responsibility of approving med schools away from mmc, and place it with mqa under mohe.....where it will be completely out of the medical profession's control.....

you prefer that?....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jun 23 2012, 08:11 PM

while mmc does have the ability to recognise, or not, overseas med schools, you will be naive to think it has any power at all, for local ones.... there is never any doubt that ALL ipta/ipts med schools will always get mmc registration, since 10 years ago....

like i said, this is a political matter, NOT a professional matter.....

the so called lincoln thing (they do not qualify to be called a university college, let along uni) is the newest and the most dubious of all the new med schools...

the masterskill brand has become so negative, they had to change the name....

yes.....

the requirement is by mmc, not the uni....

the glut would have happened even without the new ipts med schools.....but they will make it worse....half of the ipts med schools, the new ones all haven't graduated any students yet.....

the main cause of the glut is the lowering of entry requirements and standards, enabling a whole generation of mediocre students with money to find a med school and graduate......

perdana will prepare their students to sit for usmle steps 1 and 2.....passing of which will allow them to be provisionally registered so they can apply for internship in the us.....

getting a job offer will be a different thing, as they will be competing directly with local us graduates and thousands of omg from all over the world, especially from india and the Caribbean...

and this is not something special with perdana....any medical student from a imed listed medical school can present for the exam...

https://imed.faimer.org/results.asp?country...e=Asia&psize=50

there are actually quite a lot of people with that kind of money (including jpa scholars, in the past), but unfortunately, you cannot buy a medical degree in the uk.... they cannot get a place on merit....

hence the demand for places in ipts and the likes of russia, indonesia, egypt etc.....

there are lots of jpa scholars who flunk exams (there was a recent thread [https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3123978] on this here)....and lots of jpa scholars 'did not fly'.....their code for not making the cut to gain entry into the programme of their scholarship, usually critical courses in uk and oz....

we have created a new meaning for the word 'scholars'.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Feb 10 2014, 12:50 PM

it 2a at spm getting jpa scholarship....they still need to do a pre-u and get a place...

politics....otherwise, the uni will have collapsed long ago from no enrolment....

it is one of many means of shifting taxpayers money into private pockets...

if it is monash clayton, everything....as interview selection is based on very high umat/isat scores....

if it is monash sunway, nothing....as you have to pay money and sit for it, but it is completely ignored in selection...

cucms had been disciplined by mmc for over enrolment, and their registration is currently provisional....i see this is intransigence.....and NOT a good indication of a good high standard med school....obviously money is more important....

mahsa also has problems....lincoln is just buying a de-recognised ukraine programme....

if taiwan is in the crosshair, a recognised med school there will be 10 times better than new msian ipts.....go....

never use agents....why do you need agents?....

why?... you cannot read?.....cannot talk?...cannot fill forms?....

you are thinking of studying in a country where almost nobody speaks english, and you ask if their courses are conducted in english?.....

and if they do, what does that fact, that they teach in english in a country where almost nobody speaks english tell you about the uni/programme?.....