Western RPG is practically dead for quite a few years until recently...with the sudden boom in market. So now we have enough variety to cater to all the RPG fans, with 2008 ending in 3 more days. I already try my best to include all the JRPG which I have no clue about it....Vote & Discuss!

For me it's Bioware Mass Effect because of the storyline and the decision you need to make. Love the game theme too, playing the game make my wisdom +10.



2009 is not too shabby for RPG lovers, check out the list below...


We know Mass Effect 2 is definitely coming...just a matter of platform exclusivity. (this is not Too Human Yo!) Hopefully we get to see more RPG announcement like Lionhead new game or even better, Jade Empire 2 announce in 2009 e3~ Finger cross, as Microsoft don't usually announce their game till it's ready to ship.


What's your best one yet on 360 & why?

I play jrpg for 19 years... no doubt my life are for jrpg.

one of the best in my 360 so far. lost odyssey and tales of vesperia, off 360 console ps3 - dissagea 3 and ps2 - shin megami tensei series.

i'm not really big fan on wrpg.. coz they look more like action adventure games to me.

edit: I bought DS lite recently just to play chrono trigger although I finished it in famicom.. but it was worth for the sweet memory.

This post has been edited by juine: Dec 27 2008, 09:21 PM

i didn't even play any of those rpg games. but i vote for Blue Dragon because i'm Akira Toriyama fans..

I vote for Tales of vesperia , IMO the best RPG for current gen With its decent storyline and superb battle system , coupled with few memorable OST , there's I won't doubt in voting this.

@Chisa, LOL .... Liddat also can

I voted ToV. Even though there were lots of wRPG's that I really really liked.

IMO wRPG and jRPG shouldn't be compared -- they should be two different sub-segments, cos when you buy a jRPG you have a different expectation of what game you'll be getting vs buying a wRPG.

Fable 2 woot woot.

its been a while ive not playing any jrpg.. hehehe and i dont think i play any of it on 360... but ive started playing rpg game since diablo... then hook by ff series and alot more on ps2... now playing fallout and looking forward to put my hand on the witcher... mmm... i guess maybe ive playing jrpg toomuch in the early days make me feel a bit bored of it now... lol.. but honestly wrpg feel like more fun to me.. hahaha... ofcourse they tend to make the character as real as possible which jrpg turn to be more imaginative with super hot looking cute character.. anyway now it depend on the gameplay and sometime rpg game make me wanna sleep.

Mass Effect gets my vote. it's a very cool space opera with nice storyline and plot twist.

i have stopped playing JRPGs since i dunno when. i find that there's not much innovation in them. plus the whole story is the same from one to another.

coming close behind Mass Effect are Fable 2, Fallout 3 and KOTOR (heheh.. i know it's not in the list)

my life is western RPG....the first western rpg that i truly went lovey dovey for was KOTOR....awesome game...lesbian love....lightsaber and lesbian love....


now in my mind western rpgs are of higher quality than the japanese ones...viva the Western RPG!

Tales of Vesperia FTW!1!!

Mass Effects, Lost Odyssey and Last Remnant are good too.

Story wise, all of them suck, so no need to compare.
On the battle system, wRPG and jRPG are different, i prefer jRPG style.
Technical wise, wRPG always win.

This post has been edited by zhiyung: Dec 28 2008, 04:57 AM

Looks like Tales of Vesperia is leading.
From my understanding, the thing about JRPG is almost all of it involves level-grinding which has turn into a pre-requisite if you intend to finish the game, when I am being force to do that I am not having fun.

Come on, no more love for Mass Effect? The elavator lesbian sex yo!

Happy birthday! (i see your tag)

Mass effect cause I hardly played any rpg since I got xbox 360

No one go for TOO HUMAN?

I only owned Lost Odyssey, Fable 2 and Last Remnant from the list above... all of these games has its own strength and weakness... Hopefully more good rpg will be out soon..


Oh ya, final fantasy is going multi-platform is it?

Level grinding is acceptable granted the battle system is fun IMO . Some game like Final Fantasy 8 has shortcut that really cut through alot of grinding and possible to achieve very powerful character in a short time.

Mass Effect is good too , but isn't up to KOTOR level imo. Yes , the world in Mass Effect is much bigger, but often time they are repetitive. Kotor on the other hand had the best settings Ive ever seen, the ocean city, Chewbacca's forest and Sith stronghold.

Honestly , the current gen RPG still didn't came close to this

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This post has been edited by Breaktru: Dec 28 2008, 01:29 PM

lesbian love...KOTOR...

oh it has some really good gameplay...i remember liberating Kashykk from slavers with nothing more than a wookie, my lightsaber and R2D2's grandfather...

duh~! tales of vesperia!

True that...
Mass Effect has good story but side quest is Zzzz....
Fable 2 has the best visual experience and entertaining side quest but story is..lol.
Fallout 3 sucky animation & character design but very immersive gameplay experience.

@Breakthru, no fallout 1 & 2?!? I think most of the rpg sequel nowadays couldn't surpass the original, except Fable 2.
The last time I bought JRPG thinking of giving it a chance is Enchanted Arms....the day I bought it, I traded in next day.
I might give Tales of Vasperia a go by renting it since many vote for the game.


@Hitman, Kotor is last gen yo! Kotor has better character development compare to Mass Effect, hopefully Bioware gona improve upon that in ME2 because I can't seem to care much for all the sidekick in ME1.


It's good to see such a spreadout vote...however I will be damn if someone vote Too Human

This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Dec 29 2008, 08:30 PM

Too Human fails terribly as a RPG. For an action game, it's ok tho.

Btw, am i the only one on earth that think KOTOR is just ok? I mean, it's good and all, but my heart irks when i see people like worshiping it. I like SW universe, i enjoyed Jedi Knight series very much, but i just don't have that kind of feeling for KOTOR... The only wRPG that i have the epic feeling is Baldur's Gate series...

Matter of taste perhaps ? Ive tried most of the WRPG like Baldur Gate , Fallout 2 , Planescape Torment, Icewind Dale and Neverwinter Night . Somehow , I couldn't immense myself into them . Maybe my taste doesn't really fits into the culture, and also the insane amount of reading required.

The only JRPG i actually finished playing and love every moment of it is Suikoden 3...it's fun having to recruit all the weird people. (100 people there!)

...which is also why I love the recruiting part of Kotor & Mass Effect.

fable 2 ftw!......the only one i have lol

There is no doubt that JRPG genre is slowly dying due to their old tradition gameplay. I have always enjoy western RPG ever since the good o' PC days. From Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Night, Fallout series, Planescape Torment, Diablo series and many more. JRPG was one of my favorite genre back in the PS1 era. Suikoden, Xenogears, FF series, Crono Cross... but the gameplay has basically remains the same until now.

I think for this generation, I've pretty much grew tired of the JPG's 'slow' gameplay. You are forced to watch the 'voiceless' dialouges, force to go a linear path and force to save at a save point. Without major breakthrough in JRPG gameplay formula, I think it will slowly be forgotten... until one day will risen again like a phoenix (hey, WRPG goes through the same period isn't it?).

For this generation, there are four RPGS that I enjoy. Oblivion, Fallout 3, Lost Odyssey and Mass Effect. These four games have wasted more than 400 hours of my total life span.



This post has been edited by hezda: Dec 30 2008, 08:29 AM

i beg your differ but japan will not forget J-RPG

Well, same could be say to the WRPG... the system is always the same, skill-based. But one thing WRPG has that is over JRPG is the setting. JRPGs are always, i mean it, ALWAYS the same, fantasy world, magic, save the world from the evil sinister... On the other hand WRPGs have a lot of variances, medieval ages, future, space colony, ancient world, just trying to survive, or the same save the world, magics, guns, lightsaber etc etc etc...

Pprobably nobody likes The Last Remnant here, but i already passed 300th hour mark

Games like Tales of (In japanese version)
THe trailer they are showing are most likely showing the seiyuus' (voice actror) voice of each character.

all those seiyuu are from various of famous anime/game in japan. That's wad sold me of getting Japanese copy of JRPG. I have the japan copy of vesperia here and haven even gotten the console yet

and also their battle system. you will see they only spend 20-30percent of the trailer telling us bout the stories. The rest is just voices and battle system.

Who vote for Marvel: Ultimate Alliance & Infinite Undiscovery? Speak up!

@zhiyung, you probably forgotten the wrpg character all look very macho-homeless-bachelor-manly-man while Jrpg character are all pretty-boi-who-just-step-out-of-saloon.

cant agree with u more

Tales of Vesperia FTW!!

for me, wrpg & jrpg is totally different...
wrpg more 2 advanture/action rpg... jrpg more 2 turn-based/tactical rpg

the most different i can see is, wprg can customize ur own character where jrpg is fixed character

if this 2 rpg genre can split into 2... i choose oblivion for wrpg & tales of vesperia for jrpg

well... jrpg now mostly have dress up system.

i mean the character face and attribute
so, in wrpg u can make "you" in the game while in jrpg u play other people as you

of coz but they are slowly opening up to it.
with the release of fallout 3, i'm sure some of them will try the game and end up liking it.
it has almost all the elements of a standard JRPG from turn based battle (VATS) to save the world kinda storyline.
again, without the androgynous-ness of JRPG's character.

This post has been edited by technophile: Dec 30 2008, 11:59 AM

both are the same.. all typical RPGs are saving the world.. the one i like is the most beautiful and enjoyable game play.. which is all you list above TS... all are great rpgs.. and yes, Encahnted Arms included

I would say, the last remnant actually is a very interesting RPG. forget of the technicle flaws, its a superb experience in the gameplay.

perhaps its just me, i enjoy to read through the voiceless dialougues, as i can take my time to read through it, understanding it.
wRPG sometime its just too fastpace for an old folk like me

about the always pretty boy faces in jRPG, well, it is their style and I enjoyed it. if too realisticsits another kind of feeling already.

^You need to try some of the classic wrpg...it's like textbook man

wrpg like to emphasize on the role-playing part, what if i do this...what if i do that. Jrpg usually have a fixed storyline & very linear experience.

By the way, alot of you didn't mention what's your favourite. You can't have everything! I know it's hard...I love Fallout 3, Fable 2, Oblivion, Too...many, wut Also, i see another 3 minority...Eternal Sonata, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion & Enchanted Arms - whos that?!

This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Dec 30 2008, 07:35 PM

just finish eternal sonata. huhu.. i vote for tales of vesperia, the only rpg games that manage to pass 200hrs. i'll try to play the last remnant to see how it fares.

which is why i LOVE planescape: torment.


once the game was on hold at that same screen for 2 hours while me deliberating the decisions that i will make because i know i can't reverse the decision and it will affect the outcome of the game. so i need to be sure about it.

JRPG? hantam saja. ending still the same.

One thing JRPG truly excels is getting the players to play multiple runs by implementing FREAKIN time-sensitive side quests, MISSABLE secret equipments, SECRET secret bosses, secret this secret that...

hehe. the only JRPG that i played more than 3 times is FF : Tactics (if you consider that RPG).

other than that, once i know the ending, terus masuk shelf. never touch till dunno when.

thing about WRPG is you can always do run according to different build of your character and select something else to see the outcome. i did it with Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, Icewind Dale, Planescape: Torment and even KOTOR.

True, very true... in JPRG after u beat the secret boss, made the ultimate secret equipment, beat another ultra secret super boss, get another ultimate ultra secret weapon, the only difference is attack higher, defense higher, maybe cooler looking outfit/weapon, and in some occasion, a super-duper-full-screen-spamming-flashing-blinding-10-digits attack skill.

Hehe, i still remember playing Baldur's Gate 2 for half a year, tried like every kind of combinations (ok la, not all, it's impossible to try all, i tried those that i thought cool)!

My personally favorite RPGs of all time:

1. Xenogears (simply the best JRPG I ever played!)
2. Fallout 2 (F3 is much inferior than F2)
3. Suikoden 2 (Man... the ending is really damn touching)
4. Planescape:Tourment (Great story twist and excellent gameplay!)
5. KOTOR!
6. FF VII (needless to say, this is the first RPG I ever played and I enjoy it!)
7. Crono Trigger (great story!)
8. Crono Cross (I like the pace of the story and the music)
9. Vagrant Story (is this consider as RPG? Too bad Japanese don't make this kind of game anymore... gameplay is deep and this game is tough!)
10. Diablo 2! (Give me back my 200 hours! Or 300... I cant remember...)

Who on earth voted for Eternal Sonata? That game was one of the few decently-rated RPGs that I couldn't bring myself to finish.

Summary = Level whoring/grinding

LOL

Anyway my interest in WRPG stems from D&D. i was playing D&D long before i found FF on SNES.
thus when games like Baldur's Gate came out, i was ecstatic.

Along the way before i get to know JRPG, i was busy with the Lone Wolf "do your own adventure" series.
that series was fun, portable rpg.

hmm.. i wonder, was there any game ever made from that series?

This post has been edited by technophile: Dec 31 2008, 08:33 AM

damn, no PAL Tales of Vasperia for me to try out

Mass effect is catching up!

This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Dec 31 2008, 09:47 PM

i haven't played Mass Effect..but i'll give a vote to Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia..best rpg game i have played so far Infinite Undiscovery was because of the animation and voice